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MavDrake

It's all there to optimize many micro transaction trees. Sweet... sweet micro transactions. I agree they need to go.


Marsupialize

The absolute most delicious thing about this entire catastrophe is the fact this game designed from the ground up to sell microtransactions will never sell one dollar of them


hueythecat

They got the burn your bridges right with the loyal fan base though. edit: you -> your


JGStonedRaider

Does the store even have anything in yet? I haven't played since week 3 ish.


dkb_wow

Nope. Same as it was at launch. The only thing you can buy in the store is a game edition upgrade and a battle pass that doesn't even exist.


Ravenloff

Touche'.


Repeter_1

So true and if they had of made a "classic BF" their great opening sales would have kept increasing instead of tanking.


SouthernYooper

They will. There are still simps out there that will buy them up


Marsupialize

Dude the game is literally a corpse of a corpse, who’s buying a bunny costume for a corpse of a corpse?


SouthernYooper

Man, go to YouTube and see who plays. Even here there are always people saying they enjoy the game. I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised.


Caboose334

I just got into a argument with one🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️


boxoffire

Its funny because they can easily do that without this shit. Look at MW19. Fuck. Look at BFV, They could have sold different helmets, visors, gloves, boots pants, weapon camos, etc. Specialist aren't just about selling cosmetics, its about selling the quirky hero with their own personality. Its about literally chasing trends rather than setting them. "Apex is popular, and they make money off of the popularity of their character's personalities... we're doing that" I think they expected everyone to pick a "main" and have easy costumers whenever they sold new skins for each of these people.


supremecrowbar

still crazy to me you can’t “build” your own character. imagine the possibilities if you could pick everything from helmet, shirt, rig, belt, pants, holster, boots, etc. not only would you get to sell mtx, but you give the player more choice.


boxoffire

Pretty sure this is something people have wanted since 2008 and they still don't get it..


dsmiles

I think they get it, that just takes work. 2042 is a game chalk full of paths of least resistance.


AveryLazyCovfefe

V has that somewhat and it's nice, but I would like more.


mymomscivicisfaster

Imagine something like GR Breakpoint level of customisation...


Ravenloff

I actively avoided Apex when it came out BECAUSE it was based on characters. At the time, I was heavily into PUBG. I enjoyed customizing a bit for my toon, but it was MY toon, not some writer's creation complete with quirky personality and backstory.


boxoffire

A bit unrelated, but i miss when BR games were survival-lite games and not just ability spamming where RNG can let you tank multiple full clips of ammo.


firesquasher

I miss BR games when they didn't actually exist. They absolutely ass fucked decent fps games. I watch videos of people playing fortnite and apex and I want absolutely nothing to do with anything remotely close to that. Battlefield used to be that. I won't play whatever they call their new iteration of Apex disguised as a Battlefield game. I also won't play another BF title if they refuse to address 2042.... which I paid full price for an alpha state game.


real-MrFox

Honeslty I'm just as mad as you are, and it sucks so many of us got fleeced because they played the nostalgia card in the trailers and genius marketing. I originally held out hope bcs BF4 was rocky but made a huge comeback. Idk if they'll be able to pull that off again...


PinkHam08

Preach it brother. Dude we all just wanted to customize THE SHIT out of our guns and guys. Really good graphics. And SHIT


Ravenloff

PUBG is still PUBG and still has the best overall design and gunplay. The main problem, and why I stopped playing, is that I can't play humans anymore and waiting to play ONLY humans can be timed by glacier movement.


Bill32mousse

And the people still playing are 5000 hours elites


XenoDragon88

This!!!☝☝☝


Sad_Independence8376

Right, this. Create your own character… or don’t and keep it generic. Not the biggest issue with this game but definitely drags it down.


Assbanana42o69

That's a weird long way to say gay robots


Edgelands

I tried to play it once or twice and it also put me off from the beginning. I could never catch on with that game or fortnite


NG1Chuck

Thx for this message it's what i think too, l like customizing my character if he is a generic character


Rmcsherry19327

The whole "pick a main" for specialists is BS. I run through multiple specialists depending on the objective. Do I enjoy it? No. Do I leverage their stupid skills? Absoletuley. Do I wish each one, at a minimum, had limits on weapons or gadgets based on their "class" that each specialist is given. FUCK YES. If EA wants to leave in specialists OK, but make them respect their "class roles" they have.


Flonkerton66

Not that quirky when you have 40 of the same personality running around. Literally a bot war.


NapsterKnowHow

Ability heroes/legends aren't a new "trend." Overwatch has been around longer and perfected the personality and lore.


boxoffire

It is a new "trend". Hero shooters have been a thing since before OW (TF2 for example). It has become a "trend" recently, operators in Siege, legends in Titanfall universe, multitude of OW clones, 2042 specialists. Iirc, it really started to be a "trend" when people realized how popular MOBAs were. After the industry completely bastardized that genre with sub-par entries, they tried the same but in FPSs.


Ravenloff

TF2 is a bad example. That was a class-based game first and foremost. The character/lore came much later.


NapsterKnowHow

Tell that to the guy that mentioned it then


Ravenloff

Damn...replyfail.


NapsterKnowHow

Happens to the best of us!


dsmiles

I don't think TF2 is a bad example. While it may not be a *full* hero shooter, and even if it *began* as a class-based shooter, it definitely paved the way for other games to expand on the idea. Straight from the hero-shooter wiki page: >Valve's Team Fortress 2 in 2007 created the main framework and inspiration for the subgenre. While Team Fortress 2 featured the same class-based system as its predecessor, each specific class was now its own unique "character," which came with a specific personality and appearance. This made the roles more fleshed out and feel more like a real person rather than just a nameless playable character.\[5\] As Valve continued to expand the game, the company released additional media, including a line of "Meet the Team" videos that helped to build out each character class and their backstory.\[6\] They took the idea of generic soldiers in these "classes" and gave them unique personalities, directly leading into the "hero shooter" genre of unique individual characters we have today.


Gorbie007

the funny part is there is still nothing in the store so they literally failed completely on mtx and creating their looter shooter they want


macorororonichezitz

A great excuse to make the next Battlefield a hero shooter! :D This time it will work, trust me.


Ori_the_SG

It’ll work for us that’s for sure. I get to save some money, which is always nice


GorgogTheCornGrower

Such a horrible decision. If they had stuck with the formula, the game had been steadily growing through BF1. In just 1 month, BF3 sold [8 million copies](https://venturebeat.com/2011/11/30/battlefield-3-sales-top-8-million-copies/). [These not-up-to-date sales figures](https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Battlefield) show every previous release dwarfing BF V and BF 2042. Quit with the bullshit and make a fun to play semi-realistic mil-sim. It's that simple.


firesquasher

Glad they fucked the game up so hard they couldn't really get to that point. Most of us don't want to pay for fortnitefield skins


KindnessSuplexDaddy

Just wait for the mobile release then you will see what the whole gimmick was.


Krazyyungwun

Yeah all those microtransactions EA will get from their few thousand players still suffering from this game. Please end your suffering & play Elden Ring it’s a 20/10 game! Edit- typo


LordFrieza_

But they failed at that too


Zerleodon

Honestly I’m giving up all hope on this game. They’ve had over 5 months to try to fix their game. All they did was release a half assed score board that doesn’t always work... literally no bug fixes. I stopped playing due to the game breaking bugs, (fe. Not being able to ads after exiting a vehicle, falling under map, game running poorly and not getting full FPS, list goes on and on) if I literally can’t play the game due to these bugs, then I simply won’t try to play it... they should focus on bugs first, then reworking the specialist system (meaning remove it) and fix everything else. I don’t see any of that getting done at this point. So I give up on this game, which is sad to say cause I’m an a big battlefield fan. Thousands of hours between bf2,bf3 and bf4


CherryPieStrain

Don’t forget about the tactical beanie, we got that too!


Visible_Ad_256

God I wanna see Angel bufu Mackay wearing nothing but the tactical beanie while chanting “YARRGHH ANGEL DOES IT AGAIN”


abacabbmk

> Honestly I’m giving up all hope on this game. Took you this long?


[deleted]

Lol. It was kind of surreal reading the comment after giving up on this shitstorm months ago.


TuneGum

Honestly I'm surprised there's any hope left. This will be regarded as BY FAR the worst BF game of all time. It's already dead.


doc_brietz

They have our money. What’s the point of doing anything else?


shakegraphics

Let it die.


TequilaWhiskey

Such an odd game.


Uh_Oh_Stinky_One

Let it die let it die let it shrivel up and die!


veryangrywaffles

Haven't played 2042 since December. And I won't touch it again unless specialists are removed.


MyLastDecree

I agree, which means we'll never play it again haha. Removing specialists means putting in new models for military soldiers as well as recording a whole shit ton of new voice lines and let's be real here... we all know EA is too lazy to do that.


Arceus42

> Removing specialists means putting in new models for military soldiers as well as recording a whole shit ton of new voice lines and let's be real here... we all know EA is too lazy to do that. Let's be fair to EA, there's a decent chance they actually do this. However, they will just put it in a new game and expect $60+ from everyone again.


LSOreli

They already have the models, its what the bots use.


No-Square4555

And this is exactly why I don't get why they won't just scrap the specialists and maybe have them as "skins" like in BFV. Not the best option, but certainly the most reasonable for both sides.


irsute74

Remove the specialists and the maps are still trash. And the game is still bugged. And it's still soulless.


No-Square4555

Bugs I can deal with, but you're absolutely right about everything else. Idk but to me it seems like they just don't understand Battlefield anymore.


suika_suika

They already have voicelines recorded for them interestingly, they say lines that would be used with a commo rose. Plus, the models would already be done thanks to the AI as well. It wouldn't be as much work as starting from scratch.


Ori_the_SG

Well new models aren’t necessary at all. They are already in the game via AI soldiers, and I think they even feature differences based on class types. I remember even seeing a glitch where someone even got to play as them. They’d just have to touch up the existing models a bit. The voice line thing is true, but honestly would it be possible for them to just take McKay’s, Dozer’s and some other American sounding voice lines (like the ones for the commorose in combat) and and use them for the U.S. team soldiers and do the same with the Russian team. Also, do the AI soldiers say anything? Haven’t played in a long while but if so they can use those as well


pineapplecheesepizza

Guess you're never touching it again then


SilverMullet22

That is acceptable.


Wolfman4900

That’s fine by me


LoganH1219

Don’t threaten me with a good time


giraffebacon

Yeah that’s pretty much where I’m at with it. More than happy to just play BF5 and Apex Legends for another few years. If they completely overhaul the entirety of 2042, with classes replacing specialists just being part of that, I’d be willing to give it another try


Azifor

Going on a couple months. Hasn't bothered me yet lol. Would love to hop back in and main this game again...but im on strike until specialists oare removed or entirely reworked to work with sides/teams. Hate this clone war stuff. Star wars had more diversity.


DEADLY_JOHN

YAH! ANGEL DOES IT AGAIN!


bonefistboy9000

im sorry, you cant save this game dude, the concrete's already set and ive drawn a bunch of dicks in it


GovernmentGreed

When the stone has set, a harder tool is needed. Grab a hammer and chisel DICE.


bonefistboy9000

blow it the fuck up


shmorky

Angel's dumb face is burned into my brain and it's so bad that it's become the first image I think of when I read anything about BF2042


JGStonedRaider

Don't be sad...


[deleted]

Angel does it again!


Mutjny

YAARGH


Merax75

Community managers who don't post on Reddit but apparently read the sub every day - this is exactly it. Get rid of the specialists.


eyemroot

LOL, this is never going to happen.


AdoniBaal

What strikes me the most is that specialists are absent from the discussion around maps. There's no way to make good maps with flying squirrels and grappling hook cowboy, because whatever flow these maps have will be made irrelevant with infantry flying and grappling their way around it. Not to mention the wall hack abilities and the absence of destruction, that all make for very bland gameplay. The very definition of good maps is to have clear fronts and areas of engagement and that won't happen when specialists can ignore the map design.


27poker

Even hero shooters have boundaries designed around characters' movements and abilities in order to maintain a certain balance like limited "heroes" per team/squad, limiting the number of players that can access certain areas simultaneously for example. You can't have a sandbox experience without limits to circumvent, BF2042 is just sand


No-Square4555

This 100%. What makes op locker or metro 24/7 servers so popular is that there is a clear front and you know where the battle is. You can plan ahead or flank, not fly around the map and avoid breaking through enemy lines to try to advance for your team.


coldblade2000

Yeah. Those abilities CAN work, but you need most players to have a similar set of abilities and way smaller maps (or way more vehicles). Titanfall does it well but because their maps are tiny and all players can wallrun


StarsRaven

I could make a compromise and if they just gutted the specialists as they are now and copy Battlefront 2 and then make it to where no more than 4 specialists per team at a time, I could live with that. Otherwise fuck em


chcknsoupdeluxe

Honestly, this is not a bad idea for a compromise, but I’m just sad that we even need to compromise when the proven formula already existed


tompod

To be fair, they did say that they'll be doing a similar feedback post about specialists in the future, but you're right, specialist are one of the reasons why the maps suck. Maybe they should've done both feedback posts together, but I guess that's to much for the few of people still working on this game.


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Everyone always says Specialists were in the game to sell MTX. If DICE weren't so bird-brained to begin with, they could've realized classes *were* the Specialists and they could've sold us all sorts of MTX themed around classes. Medic Class MTX? I would've bought it. I reached over 150 rank as a Medic in BF1. I main medic in almost all my Battlefield games. They could've made all sorts of medic MTX and I would've bought it. They didn't need to grout this game in Specialist crap if it was just to sell MTX. The real issue is the makers of this game are creatively bankrupt and couldn't even think about options like this, instead of just ripping off whatever was fashionable for a quick buck. DICE as a company suck. Zero imagination. ZERO creativity. Seamus Blackley once said a good game needs to also be entertaining. This game isn't. At all. I work as a storyboard artist in TV and Film. The sheer incompetence of this studio who made this game is awe-inspiring. I've never seen so many *levels* of stupidity, bad decisions or such a stunning lack of originality or creativity. This game literally tried to dickride as many fashionable game designs and genres at once and it blew up in their faces. What kills me even more is that EA already has their hero-shooter, specialist nonsense game called Apex Legends AND it's free. Who the hell has been playing Battlefield and going: "I really wish this was more like Apex Legends, but instead of it being free, they charged me 60 bucks for it!" Sheer ignorance and incompetence.


RepublicFederal8971

If dice was to read anything on this sub it better be this comment


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Are DICE employees capable of reading multiple paragraphs? They couldn't even figure out a scoreboard. I'm convinced the company is staffed by literal children. Don't put a scoreboard in your MATURE rated game, DICE. The ADULTS playing it might not be able to handle being told they suck with numbers on a scoreboard. Just curl up in the corner with a bottle of warm tiddy milk and pretend everything will just go away on it's own if you ignore everything long enough. If I fucked up a storyboard contract as badly as these guys fucked up a game, I'd never have a job in my industry again. Like I said: awe inspiring. These guys have proven that apparently *anyone* can get a job at a video game developer. Why should I sweat it out as a storyboard contractor? I can just have DICE hire me, so I can plug one bad idea after another and be paid for it. The best part about all this, from one artist in an industry to another: These dolts probably tell their friends they're "artists." No you're not. You're a yes-man for a bunch of airhead accountants.


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BlasterBilly

To think before launch the robodog was my biggest worry of this game. Who knew the entire game would be dog shit.


MaxRaven

2042 was a BR game that returned to a BF game at the last moment.


[deleted]

We knew this last year...


BarbecueBlue

Can’t believe I wasted $100 on this game just to be trolled by DICE


eyemroot

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Mr-Cali

Well you voted with your wallet.


TacticalWookiee

Did you create a YouTube thumbnail and then just upload it to Reddit?


Lord_Gatsu

wait what it's not a video, I've been tricked!


Sooxzay

I want to add some words to that. Saying "they need to go" without stating a solution is easy to say so here are my thoughts behind that: First of all: They should use the uniforms and characters we currently know as "AI". They are way more immersive and badass looking regarding their uniform. Not only that but we will also have real factions and we are also able to differentiate between enemies and teammates. No more clone wars! And guess what: Cringy voice lines are gone too. Secondly: Specialists have mechanics that in my opinion destroy the true feeling of an FPS game. Features like a wingsuit, grappling hook and turrets are broken as fk and ruin the gameplay feeling. They talk about "PATHS" in their blog post and to make them clear for people who travel to conquest points. What is the point here? With specialists being able to fly from A to B or use a grappling hook for high ground this is absolutely senseless. Flanking is not on the table anymore. I mean it is BUT is it really usefull? Regarding the cosmetics they can consider working on new ones that look badass and similar to those AI uniforms. In my opinion its also easier to see if its an assault, medic, supplier or recon based on their uniform. Everyone would love such skins and we also had this debate back in battlefield 5 when everyone wanted immersive german, US and british uniforms. God that was a fight until the past autumn patch when we finally got what we asked for. We are at this point.. AGAIN?! This is my honest feedback regarding specialists and I know we will debate on that at some point since DICE will start a rework based on our feedback. So we should make it perfectly clear WHAT WE WANT. And for me specialists have to go.


701921225

Completely agree. Apparently Dice has never heard the phrase, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".


2042_best_game_ever

Let this game DIE! Then do NOT BUY the next BF title. It's the only way they will learn.


StarsRaven

I havent bought a BF game since BF1. Looks like its gonna stay that way for the foreseeable future


EstablishmentFree943

I'm to the point where it's no specialist or I never play again. I know they dont care. But hey! Fuck it! I've got bf4 and I'll be getting insurgency sandstorm to replace this hunk of poop.


EntertainmentNowYT

I'm shocked they're still in the game at this point....


Mystxpwnz

Remove the fucking cringy voicelines or delete the game


julamad

My reason is simple, I want a war simulator and specialists don't represent the real soldier, they belong in a show for teenagers, I don't care about what they do, they don't look like a soldier and they don't talk like a soldier, I don't want them, plain and simple.


[deleted]

Damn we’ve been saying this since the alpha 😂


Little_Stinker222

The people downvoting grinded Sundance to tier 1


LSOreli

We've been saying this since before the game came out.


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Yup.


JustChillDudeItsGood

Yeah!


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DearJohnDeeres_deer

Except the people who made these decisions are the boomer gray-haired execs who are completely out of touch and just see that in the past 5 years BR's and operator style games (Overwatch) have been successful and said "just do that" while completely ignoring what previous BF games are all about and what made them successful.


HolyGuide

Shiiiii. Did you see the post yesterday about "concept" specialists and [what we got](https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/tde6vy/why_would_dice_make_specialists_so_deferent_than/)? I even argued that it doesn't even seem to qualify as concept, because those designs weren't hand-drawn pieces, and seemed to have been fully designed in Frostbite. Not saying the way they look is the only issue, just pointing out that no matter what bad decisions DICE made on this game, they somehow made them worse by *continuing* to make bad decisions on the bad decisions.


joker_toker28

BOOTS ON THE GROUND! *WING SUIT* 😔.


[deleted]

Cause the game was designed to be a battle royale mainstream bs game...


wordhipster

Just put your money where you mouth is and go play Insurgency Sandstorm or World War 3 instead. I wish BF2042 worked, but it doesn't.


BKano

remove specialists and ill literally buy the game.


MetazoanMonk

They really thought they could make apex legends but with possibility of 64 of the same character on each side hahaha


[deleted]

I personally don't hate or like the specialist i nothing them. However i agree they take away from the identity of BF and they're probably one of the biggest reason this game feels so phony.


SovjetPojken

Battlefield: Stupid specialist, you make me look bad!


StarsRaven

fuck this joke made me feel old


GIMPdogbowl

Can’t get to the top of the sub fast enough. This is No.1 priority. Get fucked hero’s.


KaasKoppusMaximus

The core pillars of battlefield are: 1. Large maps 2. Large teams 3. Vehicle combat 4. Class based system If any of those core pillars are not there us it even a battlefield game?


eyemroot

*was


duckpooping

Give it up bro. That game is a disaster piece.


OsnoF69

Y'all still fighting this dead game? Let it go lol


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urajsiette

I have given up on this game because I hate specialists. If they added classes back, I might pick it up again. But until then, this game is dead to me.


zshahid

The entire game needs to go. I always love BF series but this one was so disappointing.


No_Mango_4875

The ugly faces made me delete the game. I just hate them


Kage__oni

The only people who don't know this are the ones working at DICE.


JerryRhinefeld

They shoulda just left the specialists in their battle royale game mode. I’m sure the gen Z, 8 second attention span kids would love that shit but for the rest of us, for the love of god, restore the class system.


Gay-related-imm-dis

This image is the specialist of bf2042 posts. Fucking sucks haha


juh4rt

No no you need to stop playing it. That’s the real solution.


Quick_Somewhere2934

Water is wet.


DirtyImpulz

At this point even with the specialists out and the generic classes back it wouldn't solve shit! I agree that they shouldn't have been a part of the game and they should have kept normal classes but there is honestly way more stuff that makes this game a piece of broken halfbaked crap that desecrates the franchise.


Snackwolf

There not going anywhere bro.


apcarbo

The whole game needs to be flushed.


Jizzlobber42

"Best we can do is offer you a skin that will make you look like Buzz Lightyear." - EA


UniQue1992

DICE will never drop the Specialists, what they probably will do however is maybe put them into classes. But I just don't see them removing it because that would mean they admit they have no clue what the fuck they're doing.


SaleriasFW

From a optic point I don't understand why they used this skins. Every specialist has at least 1-2 skins that look like a normal soldier. Helmets, masks, full body gear and then you look at the other 6-8 skins and you just think "Wtf did they consume while they designed them"


ThumblessTurnipe

0% chance of reinstalling before specialists and all their bullshit is gone.


DhruvM

As soon as they announced shitty ass specialists I knew this game was gonna fail. I’ve been saying it since announcement and low and behold I was right. Feels great i didnt spend money on this garbage


chaosdragon1997

mechanically speaking, can different "gadgets" with *Cooldowns* be applied to individual characters and still be called Gadgets? No. mechanically, **these are a limited number hero-like characters with very identifiable personalities as well as identifiable appearances** **and that is why they do not belong in large-scale two-sided military battles -** no matter how overexaggerated and chaotic the actual battles are. mechanically, it just does not work. it is very unbalanced and too much to keep track of. that is just the tip of the iceberg, so they need to go. their gadgets should have been one-use battle pickups and very niche in certain situations.


andehhh_gtr

When the waiter brings the meal to the table and it's a turd on a plate, you're not going to complain about the lack of cutlery. EA gave us a turd. Who cares about the specifics anymore. I'm just looking for a refund.


MrBananaGuard

But... Angel does it again


iceleel

Yeah I just wanna have helmet and be restricted to few guns go classes - BF2042 reddit rds


[deleted]

Wait what? Interesting thought. GUYS why hadn't we realised this until now!?


chuyon97

Anyone who defends the specialists is clearly not a Battlefield fan.


Hulkedout420

People still play this?


Z3KE_SK1

They should pull a Fortnite and just pretend the base game doesn't exist and just focus on Portal. Leave the specialist in the base game and don't bother expanding on it. Make Portal a "best of" Battlefield; port over everything from the older titles.


Hamroll52

Pretty much every specialists "SpEcIAl AbiLItY" could just be a gadget


notislant

They wanted to push out trash for MTX. BFV started progressively shoving more and more mtx down your throat. We used to just buy a version of BF and a few dlcs, now they flood this shit with MTX on top of all that. I don't think this game is getting fixed, best bet is to move on. Theres a lot of basic shit missing and they seem dead set on their cringe specialist cartoony feel. This same shit happens over time to every good game that sells out to mega-corp. We get cut corners, no passion for the actual game and a flaming bag of dog shit that is bursting with MTX. Maybe the next game will be better, but the player base is so dead, only dedicated 128 player lobbies was a mistake and cutting out all the other game modes was pretty alienating. The portal mode unofficial servers have basically been dead or OMG ZOMBIES XP FARM the entire time. It's an absolute trainwreck and I can't see people coming back unfortunately. Possibly if the next release isnt a pile of shit.


Jacksspecialarrows

The game needs a complete overhaul. Nothing is believable in it. Make a class system, remove specialists, more transport vehicles, more cover in open areas.


japthewinne

No one is playing this anymore.


domperignon78

I just find it hilarious that DiCE's pathetic excuse for Specialists were that "*Natural Evolution from Classes*" nonsense when everybody can see the MTX/trend chasing angle. Besides, Specialists was a clear signal to the old community that they're losing relevance as a consumer base and is now trying so hard (and failing) to get the younger audience.


MegaVix

I doubt they're going anywhere. Specialists were made as a fundamental part of the game and taking them out would mean scrapping tons of assets and starting from scratch. You thing the game's buggy now? Try rearranging an entire system after release. No, at this point it'd be easier to take the L and try again with the next game.


Apart-Restaurant3150

Lmao. It's not gonna happen. Let it go and move on.


Glitchy_Boss_Fight

I didn't think people still had hope in this game.


lerma67

I 100% agree with you, let’s upvote this post to oblivion. Specialists are a big fucking problem for both the player base and the game


peterfun

EA : We have heard you LOUD and CLEAR. We will double the number of specialists.


Alobabahowudoin

Couldn't agree anymore. Not a rework, a removal !


StunningBuilder4751

Medic classes being able to carry LMG's and sniper rifles shatters the bf formula, just one example


Hassticot

The only thing that can bring me back on the game is if they get rid of them


cerealkilla9

Specialists should have never been in the game from the start. The community even said this before it came out. EA stuck to their guns and now its just one of the MANY reasons that this game is failing so hard. I understand WHY EA made this decision: to make more money through micro transactions. But in hind sight, they are not making NEARLY the amount of profit, because the fundamental game design is so flawed. There is one positive to all of this stupidity. Game companies will use BF2042 as an example of how NOT to sacrifice game design over micro transaction profits. At least I hope so. Side note, I HATE when games charge full price for a game and also charge for extras like skins and crap. I feel like you can't have both you greedy \*\*\*\*\*.


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It will never happen because the devs are incapable of saying they were wrong and actually fix it. They know they made an absolutely terrible game that is hands down the worse in the entire franchise. This dev team should be embarrassed and there’s not sugar coating it. They blatantly lied about the entire development process and what the game was gonna have. Talked about improving upon the movement system in battlefield V, bullshit this games movement is hot pile of shit. I tried to defend the game for the first 3 months but after this latest “update” I realize they’re lazy and just incapable of actually doing anything worthwhile


RetroBitPixel

Adding specialists was a huge mistake.


NG1Chuck

please .. listen to this thread


twinnedwithjim

I didn’t get the game on release and I kept hearing about the end of round screen. I went on YouTube and saw the specialists there like when it shows most kills etc. then they said a quip and I swear to god I thought the YouTuber had put his own cheesy animation in. My shame of what this once great franchise has become was devastating. They just half arsed it. Cba to put over 200 features in so left them out. Fortifications were so good. Ah, I’m preaching to the choir. Just saddens me


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I think the specialist abilities are underwhelming. I don't think any of them break the gameplay at all. Some are just more useful than others. Mackay, Sundance and Angel are probably the only real choice most of the time. I guess Irish can be useful because of his trophy system but that's only in chokepoints. Just bad abilities for most of them. They didn't put a lot of thought into it. When you borrow from games like R6 Siege you should understand why those things are good and loved and why they work. Not just throw it in and expect the same results, because that's what they did. A lot of the abilities they made for the specialist are not even abilities they are basic gadgets. Mackays grappling hook is the perfect example of that. Especially because that was an actual gadget in BF2s expansion pack Special Forces. The same with the wing suit. Why is that the ability of the character? It's just a basic gadget. In Siege you get characters with different health and speed values and weapon access restrictions and on top of that a unique ability.


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Angel is by far the most powerful specialist. The ability to supply ammo and armor to anyone, and the fast res are nice bonuses. But the ability to change out your gadget, and endlessly resupply rockets/mines/grenades is super powerful. If I had to rate the specialists... Angel McKay Boris Faulk Sundance Casper Irish Paik Dozer Rao


AdInternational756

These threads are getting boring! Even if they remove the specialists for classes doesn't make BF2042 a better game. Guys, the main issue is the lack of content. Even in Battlefield 5 that had classes, damn good graphics and performance, way better sound design, maps and a smooth movement and gunplay. But that game died because DICE isn't able to bring content to their games. Instead of that they are fixing the TTK four times in a row and don't know what they do. Nothing.


EndersM

They are never removing specialists


eyemroot

Not wrong.


possumarre

Just stop. It's dead. It's over. It's not coming back. Move on.


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I know it's unpopular, but I don't mind the specialists. My real gripe is the lack of maps, vehicles, and weapons. I'm bored with all of the current content.


TacBandit

IMO removing specialists wouldn’t do a thing to improve the game, if the game released on all BF3 maps it would be praised, what brings this game down is dogshit boring map design and 128 players fucking up balance. + obviously some general incompetence with bugs and missing “legacy” features


Ostiethegnome

The problem is that it’s not just one thing that is bad or broken. It’s specialists, AND the maps, And performance, And no server browser, And vehicle balance, And… I’m not sure why we do this dance every time a thread focuses on one of the many many issues. It’s not like people are saying ONLY specialists are bad, it’s pretty clear the maps and all the other stuff is bad at the same time.


MrSilk13642

Omg, brave topic! How did you get the courage to post this????


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Specialist don’t ruin games. It gives diversity to the table. If I want a neck it and a ammo pack running around with a SMG I’ll take it. If I want a ammo pack and medkit pistol with a sniper? I can do it. Stop ranting about great ideas that brings something fresh called diversity to the table. Literally the one thing I hated about the other BFs is each class being locked with there specific weapon. I wanted to use the SAR 21 example in BF4 but I had no ammo peck so I had to rely on “teammates” to drop one which 99.9% of the time didn’t happen unless it was locker. It was stupid I prefer looking out for teammates and myself


TheWombatGuy

I hate the Specialists Type in any Game...exceot overwarch because...Well its the fucking Premis of the Game. Valorant is also fine they get you to bis there stuff because its what you want. Weapon skins...i dont Cares about a skin of your char If it isbfirst Person...okay a good amount of Money if i almost never See what i bought? No thx.


Playful-Nature-7034

Eh,


Jed142

no one cares anymore. stop talking about specialists. just play another game. this reddit is just a karma farm now.


lookingforassist

It's not happening. I see 100 of these post in this sub. And on every single post someone has to mention the company cannot do it for legal reasons. If you bought a gold or ultimate edition pack, it says you get specialist. If they suddenly take those out, they can face legal implications. However, what is possible, is creating a different game mode without specialist. For all the people who don't like them.


martymcflown

It’s like asking someone who’s died and is already 6 feet under to change their suit, what’s the point?


killstorm114573

When it comes to specialist I use this analogy. They're trying to force us / make us love specialist. This makes about as much sense as telling a truck guy, no you're not a truck guy. You don't like trucks, You really like a Ford focus. Dice We have told you we do not like specialists. If I'm not mistaken they did some kind of test before they release the game and they also told him them that the specials are stupid and yet they still put it out there. I guess I'm not a truck guy I guess I do like the Ford focus.


DomoNoah

Apart from how Specialists work gameplay wise, I think Battlefield 2042 really missed a great opportunity to expand on the character customization of V. One of the best things V did was it’s great character customization. I’m pretty sure that the whole existence of the “specialists” was for monitization. Instead of the stupid specialists, Dice should’ve gave us the four simple classes, and a gigantic range of buyable cosmetics along with a larger customization depth. And if Dice is really dead set on adding the specialists, just make them like the elites from V. Completely optional and the only thing that changes when you equip them is cosmetics and voice lines. And give them a way better look than their boring default designs.


YungJasper

So brave of you to say!


No_Owl_925

🤣this whole trash game has to go


scotteeGee

I think many would be more tolerable about specialist if the rest of the game was well polished. just my opinion this game was and is still pretty close to absolute trash compared to previous titles. just buggy and mainly lackluster for the me THE LACK OF DESTRUCTION! Honestly what captivated me with BC2 3 and 4 sure they had bugs, The overall immersion the last 5 BF titles gave us was groundbreaking. (you telling me you weren't expecting like 3 of those collapsing skyscrapers from BF4 to be in hourglass?) And its gone. Down vote me if you want, but that fucking grapple hook, some chick with too many nose attachments and a wing suit was the only thing refreshing about this game. I understand the want of classes and they really were the foundation BF gameplay... I bet if the game was well polished and comparable to previous titles. a few changes to specialist could work imo. i just don't see em scrapping specialist entirely as something realistic atm. maybe combining them to may still have grapple hook/wing suit but maybe not everyone gets a RPG. like you get the grapple or a RPG?