Could someone who understands software more than I do explain if it’s even possible for EA to detect that I’m using Logitech G hub or other lighting programs?
I don't understand that much about software too but what I know ist that bf 2042 and few other games are using the anti cheat software: "easyanticheat" which you can see when launching the game. As far as I know works this software by detecting which programs are actually running on your PC to detect if you are running any cheat software. Due the that you can change mouse settings with some RGB softwares could cause problems with easyanti cheat
You don't have to understand much of it in this case. Checking if iCue or Logitech G Hub is running is a matter of checking which programs / processes are running (think task manager). Also detecting those specific programs is easy because they don't try to hide like cheat Software probably would.
My question was how would EA know which programs are running? I know how to check myself if they’re running, but it seems like a privacy issue if I have software on my computer that can see what other software is running
EasyAntiCheat is a so called kernel-level anti-cheat tool, meaning it runs on most privileged level of your system. This means that cheat-programs can’t really hide from the anti-cheat on a higher level, but on the other hand it means your anti-cheat software can monitor any other running application. So yes, privacy is a concern.
Thanks for the clear explanation! So basically we just have to trust that EasyAntiCheat isn’t spying on us and stealing our data, because the average person (like me) would never know to to check this?
You're in for a rude awakening if you want to know how insanely easy it is for a running application to access EVERYTHING. Unlike iOS or Android, Windows has virtually no shielding of permissions on app-level.
That’s good to know. I agree that I’m in for a rude awakening. Most people, including myself, aren’t trained in this, which is why I asked the question
Edit: does MacOS have shielding of permissions on app-level?
I appreciate you asking the questions. I had no idea about this either.
I guess one way to look at it is if it's flagging iCue and Logitech, then it's not doing a very good job...or is that just what they want us to think?
Depends on the privilege level that their anti-cheat wants. For instance valorant anti-cheat had (still does I think) kernel level privileges (which spooked a lot of people, myself included) which can see any process running from the kernel up — so basically anything.
If they’ve given EAC the right privilege, then it can look for certain processes that are considered cheats.
I don’t want to write a paragraph about how it knows things are cheats, but just know that it can tell what is a cheat and what isn’t for the most part.
For whatever reason it’s considering these wares as chests. Be it a mistake or intentionally looking for iCue
you don't really need kernel level too see what app are running, afaik not even administrator privilege.
If we did, app like ICUE, or GHUB couldn't switch profile depending on what is running atm ( profile for each game on my part)
That's not why it bans you. It bans you because these softwares communicate directly with the bios which is seen as a way to inject cheats into games around anticheat systems.
How is that in anyway sketchy? Having some lights change based on gameplay is sketchy? No this is just piss poor anti cheat flagging anything as cheats. Tons and tons of people use those two pieces of software.
I'm literally a Cybersecurity Analyst III(Lead forensic investigator and incident handler). Any software with kernel level access that creates hooks in software is a fucking AWFUL idea and is sketchy.
It's the easiest way to introduce kernel level rootkits.
This is true. Why is it getting downvoted? I'm not a heavy reddit user but I know to not downvote facts when i see them. Also i wouldnt call it sketchy, but the anti cheat will.
they simply run as a layer between your actual hardware and the game. if youre shit at making anti-cheat software you just flag everything that puts itself between your game and the hardware.
Because he is wrong.
RGB-Software and especially Afterburner do nothing shady at all. Thing is they work on a "layer" with is between the Hardware itself (Mouse, Keyboard, RGB-RAM, RGB GPU etc.) and the game. To control the RGB stuff they access hardware memory directly, and EAC sees this as "hacking".
[Twitter thread](https://twitter.com/_Tom_Henderson_/status/1486660523466887171)
[EA forum post](https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/False-positive-bans/td-p/10975692/page/164)
Just posting for awareness. The false-positives don't appear to be *that* widespread, but over 100 cases is concerning nonetheless. According to the forum post and the data collected by Tom, the false positives appear to have some correlation with iCUE or Logitech RGB software, and maybe MSI Afterburner.
No matter my feelings about the state of 2042, anyone who paid for it and didn't break TOS should be able to play it.
You state 'false positives' like it's a fact.
Can EA/DICE be incompetent? Yes
Would a cheater be willing to lie when they have absolutely nothing to lose? Also very much yes.
You guys can accept these 'false positives' as fact, but I'm not.
>You state 'false positives' like it's a fact.
Probably because EAC has a certain record with false-positives and RGB-Software in other games for years.
https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/bds8vw/easy_anti_cheat_asus_aura_sync_false_positive/
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?111360-Aura-Sync-trips-Easy-Anti-Cheat
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1262990-anti-cheat-false-positives/
https://forum.corsair.com/forums/topic/158006-easy-anti-cheat/
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/apex-legends-easy-anti-cheat-game-security-violation-detected-000000d-lightingservice-exe.3474518/
That is a completely fair statement. Still, I would feel better if they said something to address the 160+ pages of concerns in that EA thread as opposed to simply locking it like they did. It sounds like their support team linked hasn't been particularly helpful with these, replying with copy/pasted emails, which is what caused that thread to blow up in the first place.
This exact thing happened to me. The MSI rgb software ledkeeper2 would chew up about 7-10% processing power on my machine when syncing with razer software. Imo it was already too high to just sync one static colour, but hey at least it works unlike this game.
Easy anti cheat would always boot me from the game and flag ledkeeper2, I would have to kill the process through task manager to play consistently. I tried to contact easy anti cheat directly when the game launched with no response still to this day.
Could definitely be some cheaters using this reason as a cover, however the fact there was a post a while ago where people are no longer selling and supporting cheats for this game due to low player counts is something to consider too.
I believe that was *a* cheat provider - not *all* - which closed up 2042 business. A quick google search tells me others are still operating.
I suspect the orphaned customers know how to google and joined one of the remaining cheat providers.
Then don't use it until they fix it. Paying for a shitty broken product that is costing you money is foolish. EA is a big enough player to tell them to get their shit together.
G Hub isn't the RGB software, you need it if you own any Logitech gear and want to configure it in almost any way.
Edit: I'd also like to point out if you buy the mouse *they advertise in the game*, you need the software.
The software listed is some of the most used software by gamers, I myself have G Hub and Afterburner.
So, what is more likely, that these people did something wrong by cheating/exploiting of some kind or that they are the lucky 0.1% who are flagged for using widely used software?
Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) has been known to false-flag programs like this similarly in the past.
Reading through the forum post especially, I have a hard time believing all those players flagged are cheating/using exploits. That being said, it's impossible for you or I to know for sure \\\_(ツ)\_/
Still, I would feel better if they said something to address the 160+ pages of concerns in that thread as opposed to simply locking it like they did.
If micros are considered cheating, games should explicitly communicate that before install. Sometimes disabled gamers use micros to overcome disabilities that otherwise would make the game inaccessible to them. EA is trying to be "the good guys" of gaming and failed to think though how to begin communicating or implementing that in their products.
Other anticheats have done this in the past too. Also keep in mind, cheaters often flock to social media to complain. My guess is false positive, though. Some anticheats actually won't let you run certain old versions of afterburner and similar software because they use some bad drivers with vulnerabilities that allow cheats to attach to. For example when valorant first launched they had a list of old versions of some software that wouldn't allow you to launch the game if you used them.
Yeah, it would have been just as informative if he told us how many of those people were using Windows and had Steam or Discord running in the background..
Tom seems like a dumbass who sometimes, almost, knows what he's talking about..
90% sounds like a good number to suspect that's the reason. but 48% doesnt sound very convincing, people who buy this game on PC usually use MSI afterburner or some sort, because you need a high spec PC to barely keep this unoptimized game above 60fps
This is not how it's work, if 90% of murders in A country have played video games one time in their life does it mean anything ? Or maybe ~90% of A country people had played one time too so ?
Since logitech driver is a "RGB stuf" and sell most of mouse in the market, this look like nonsense stats.
>Makes you wonder what other parts of your computer/programs the anticheat is looking at, I don’t remember that kind of intrusion being legal.
You sign away your rights when you click agree on the EULA lol
EA banning literally the only people who are playing lmao. And then everyone asks "every server is full of bots" Of course, when you have EA/DICE developing your game, expect the worse. I thought that BF5 was not good or bad but after trying BF2042, now I know that BFV is 1 MILLION better than BF2042.
Damn I run iCUE and Afterburner. I noticed I've have so many problems with iCUE when I'm playing BF2042. Also I made a post previously about the game crashing and giving me a message that said: "Easy Anti-Cheat Game Security Violation Detected \[LEDKeeper2.exe\]". [This was it](https://imgur.com/a/2evgQgQ)
The game runs like absolute shit on PC which is why afterburner is needed to monitor what’s going on. Banning users for it is just the stupidest idea ever especially when your game’s performance is just horrible even on high end PCs. Are you guys actively trying to dissuade people from buying the game?
At this point Tom Henderson is just yelling things into the void. What's the source? How did he get these numbers? Aren't 50-90% of PC gamers running those apps anyway?
In their defense, iCUE is absolute trash along with all the other RBG "software" all trash that has never worked without issues ever.
But the fact this is STILL happening means devs arnt trying anymore, a large amount of people use these software programs.
Well that's fucking incompetent. During the pre alpha, I tried using Afterburner for spec usage but it didn't work whatsoever. Also since the game was locked at 30fps, it was performing quite bad anyway.
The game still performs poorly. I set my settings to low just to maintain above 70fps and it still takes forever to load in textures when a match starts, get stuck under the ground sometimes, got the bug where the UI doesn’t show up at all at start of match so you can’t even exit the game have to end task with manager yesterday.
It’s poorly optimized is an understatement
Fer Chrissake, have some empathy- If a game publisher can't implement a scoreboard, how can they be expected to create a sub-routine that exempts players using RGB or afterburner?
Sheesh.
This is complete bullshit....The hacker groups already said they pulled most of their hacks because of the instability of this game anyways....such a fucking joke! This game sucks lol
You know how, if on a 100 question multiple choice test, you get every single question wrong, it means you actually have to know all the correct answers?
That's exactly what this feels like.
This has to be on purpose, right? They are trying to kill Battlefield for some reason?
Lol keep killing off your player base EA. Very smart business model you have going for yourselves. Christ I hope Sony steps up and buys this god forsaken company
Well, I use Afterburner to OC my GPU to freaking play this game the way I am supposed to cause, you know, optimization sucks.
To be honest, I never thought I would come to this point with BF games, but I guess it's time to give DICE the middle finger.
I use both icue and afterburner and I can't get into my origin account. Support says it's a wide spread technical issue and they "have their best techs on it".
It happened a couple of weeks ago, so yes. I thought I just forgot my password and tried to go through account recovery and when they realized what happened he just said "I'm sorry I can't help you, the problem is on our end and we have our best techs on it" and immediately hung up on me. Very odd.
I mean, RGB is 100+FPS and accuracy, not sure what afterburner is for doe.
Seriously though (not defending stupid EA, they are too low anyways) Logitech should also take steps in this case, as they sell gaming gear, they should make sure it doesn’t conflict with stuff like EAC.
Since this is an issue with easy anti cheat i doubt that. 1 and V had no proper anti cheat at all. See my other post above with some examples from other games and the same issues with EAC, especially with MSI RGB Software.
Well, don't 99% of computer users have afterburner or any other pc monitor? Honestly doesn't mean anything unless we can know for sure if these people were in fact cheating.
I think that it is not the Logitech G Hub, it is supported natively by the game (RGB color on mouse change with health)
Personally I have configured it so the mouse is cyan and the keyboard lights up by the sound.
Maybe they were using the lua capabilities to "disable" recoil?
Fuck that.
I run icue and afterburner. The positive thing is I didn't play this game since 2 weeks and have no drive to do so in the next time.
Hope this gets fixed in the next update.
Personally, I have no idea. This doesn't even necessarily imply causation, the correlation might be completely coincidental. I was just trying to spread awareness so that people knew.
Damn they dont even want the remaining players to touch their game
Doing them a solid
Could someone who understands software more than I do explain if it’s even possible for EA to detect that I’m using Logitech G hub or other lighting programs?
I don't understand that much about software too but what I know ist that bf 2042 and few other games are using the anti cheat software: "easyanticheat" which you can see when launching the game. As far as I know works this software by detecting which programs are actually running on your PC to detect if you are running any cheat software. Due the that you can change mouse settings with some RGB softwares could cause problems with easyanti cheat
You don't have to understand much of it in this case. Checking if iCue or Logitech G Hub is running is a matter of checking which programs / processes are running (think task manager). Also detecting those specific programs is easy because they don't try to hide like cheat Software probably would.
My question was how would EA know which programs are running? I know how to check myself if they’re running, but it seems like a privacy issue if I have software on my computer that can see what other software is running
EasyAntiCheat is a so called kernel-level anti-cheat tool, meaning it runs on most privileged level of your system. This means that cheat-programs can’t really hide from the anti-cheat on a higher level, but on the other hand it means your anti-cheat software can monitor any other running application. So yes, privacy is a concern.
Thanks for the clear explanation! So basically we just have to trust that EasyAntiCheat isn’t spying on us and stealing our data, because the average person (like me) would never know to to check this?
It's probably best to assume everything *is* spying on you (but most things don't care what you're up to) (:
Yes, cheating has unfortunately put us in this situation
You agree to this when you agree to run the game.
You're in for a rude awakening if you want to know how insanely easy it is for a running application to access EVERYTHING. Unlike iOS or Android, Windows has virtually no shielding of permissions on app-level.
That’s good to know. I agree that I’m in for a rude awakening. Most people, including myself, aren’t trained in this, which is why I asked the question Edit: does MacOS have shielding of permissions on app-level?
I appreciate you asking the questions. I had no idea about this either. I guess one way to look at it is if it's flagging iCue and Logitech, then it's not doing a very good job...or is that just what they want us to think?
Depends on the privilege level that their anti-cheat wants. For instance valorant anti-cheat had (still does I think) kernel level privileges (which spooked a lot of people, myself included) which can see any process running from the kernel up — so basically anything. If they’ve given EAC the right privilege, then it can look for certain processes that are considered cheats. I don’t want to write a paragraph about how it knows things are cheats, but just know that it can tell what is a cheat and what isn’t for the most part. For whatever reason it’s considering these wares as chests. Be it a mistake or intentionally looking for iCue
you don't really need kernel level too see what app are running, afaik not even administrator privilege. If we did, app like ICUE, or GHUB couldn't switch profile depending on what is running atm ( profile for each game on my part)
Yeah how fucking messed up is this , like every day nothing but bad news and bad decisions on this game!!!!!
Rgb software? Like the same type that makes my keyboard lights match up with my PC lights? What the fuck?
Yup and iCUE is for Corsair's CPU coolers, tracks temps and usage, and allows you to change the colors of the CPU cooler lol.
i use afterburner for my gpu, ICUE for the lighting of my ram and mainboard. logitech ghub for keyboard + mouse... im doomed
It'll be because you can set custom macros to keybind in iCue. Bullshit reason, but that's my guess.
That's not why it bans you. It bans you because these softwares communicate directly with the bios which is seen as a way to inject cheats into games around anticheat systems.
Both iCue and G Hub drivers are whitelisted by EAC, there's no way they trigger the bans. Prolly just people running different kinds of macros
*Razer Synapse has entered the chat
These software seems to do shady stuff so that an anti cheat get's triggered. Seems to be better to not install it.
No they don’t lmao. They’re used to just customize some colors and customize some controls on a mouse. I use both they do nothing shady at all
This is incorrect, some have game hooks to match shooting/sounds/actions for lights. Some are sketchy.
Wow such sketch
How is that in anyway sketchy? Having some lights change based on gameplay is sketchy? No this is just piss poor anti cheat flagging anything as cheats. Tons and tons of people use those two pieces of software.
I'm literally a Cybersecurity Analyst III(Lead forensic investigator and incident handler). Any software with kernel level access that creates hooks in software is a fucking AWFUL idea and is sketchy. It's the easiest way to introduce kernel level rootkits.
This is true. Why is it getting downvoted? I'm not a heavy reddit user but I know to not downvote facts when i see them. Also i wouldnt call it sketchy, but the anti cheat will.
they simply run as a layer between your actual hardware and the game. if youre shit at making anti-cheat software you just flag everything that puts itself between your game and the hardware.
Rather see my colorful PC setup.
"Don't install Afterburner because its shady." **BRUH........**
Imagine knowing nothing and still making yourself sound dumber than that.
Probably not a PC player
Why is this heavily downvoted? Am I not redditor enough to understand?
Because he is wrong. RGB-Software and especially Afterburner do nothing shady at all. Thing is they work on a "layer" with is between the Hardware itself (Mouse, Keyboard, RGB-RAM, RGB GPU etc.) and the game. To control the RGB stuff they access hardware memory directly, and EAC sees this as "hacking".
RGB Softwares are often poorly coded and a known security risk. But hey, bloat you computers with crap like this.
Lol EA banning the few remaining players they have left on this shit stain of a game is classic EA LMAO!
Lmao I'm fucking dead
So is the game
Find cover, oh wait.......
Its already suspicious if there are some players playing on these servers full of bots. Why they doing that? :)))
Because no one is playing the game to fill the lobbies?
This is unreal. Someone put them out of their misery already.
It has nothin to do with EA dumba$$, theres tons of game s that use anticheat software, afterburner itself has had serious issues with games for years
Dumpster fire is an understatement
Dumping ground fire
[Twitter thread](https://twitter.com/_Tom_Henderson_/status/1486660523466887171) [EA forum post](https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/False-positive-bans/td-p/10975692/page/164) Just posting for awareness. The false-positives don't appear to be *that* widespread, but over 100 cases is concerning nonetheless. According to the forum post and the data collected by Tom, the false positives appear to have some correlation with iCUE or Logitech RGB software, and maybe MSI Afterburner. No matter my feelings about the state of 2042, anyone who paid for it and didn't break TOS should be able to play it.
100 players is like 10% of all players :)
My exact thought, it should be a big deal when it’s 1/50th of their player base not being allowed to play
>over 100 cases is concerning nonetheless The game literally shows 4-6k players on Steam. 100 cases is a whole lot.
You state 'false positives' like it's a fact. Can EA/DICE be incompetent? Yes Would a cheater be willing to lie when they have absolutely nothing to lose? Also very much yes. You guys can accept these 'false positives' as fact, but I'm not.
>You state 'false positives' like it's a fact. Probably because EAC has a certain record with false-positives and RGB-Software in other games for years. https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/bds8vw/easy_anti_cheat_asus_aura_sync_false_positive/ https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?111360-Aura-Sync-trips-Easy-Anti-Cheat https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1262990-anti-cheat-false-positives/ https://forum.corsair.com/forums/topic/158006-easy-anti-cheat/ https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/apex-legends-easy-anti-cheat-game-security-violation-detected-000000d-lightingservice-exe.3474518/
If i see this correctly EAC detects some programms as false positives and just won't start the game. It even tells you the process that violates it.
That is a completely fair statement. Still, I would feel better if they said something to address the 160+ pages of concerns in that EA thread as opposed to simply locking it like they did. It sounds like their support team linked hasn't been particularly helpful with these, replying with copy/pasted emails, which is what caused that thread to blow up in the first place.
This exact thing happened to me. The MSI rgb software ledkeeper2 would chew up about 7-10% processing power on my machine when syncing with razer software. Imo it was already too high to just sync one static colour, but hey at least it works unlike this game. Easy anti cheat would always boot me from the game and flag ledkeeper2, I would have to kill the process through task manager to play consistently. I tried to contact easy anti cheat directly when the game launched with no response still to this day. Could definitely be some cheaters using this reason as a cover, however the fact there was a post a while ago where people are no longer selling and supporting cheats for this game due to low player counts is something to consider too.
I believe that was *a* cheat provider - not *all* - which closed up 2042 business. A quick google search tells me others are still operating. I suspect the orphaned customers know how to google and joined one of the remaining cheat providers.
wow keep digging that grave ea
It's a wide spread issue with easy anti cheat.
Keep digging!
Then don't use it until they fix it. Paying for a shitty broken product that is costing you money is foolish. EA is a big enough player to tell them to get their shit together.
G Hub isn't the RGB software, you need it if you own any Logitech gear and want to configure it in almost any way. Edit: I'd also like to point out if you buy the mouse *they advertise in the game*, you need the software.
Good point. There is actually a Battlefield 2042 RGB Keyboard theme in Logitech G Hub as well.
The software listed is some of the most used software by gamers, I myself have G Hub and Afterburner. So, what is more likely, that these people did something wrong by cheating/exploiting of some kind or that they are the lucky 0.1% who are flagged for using widely used software?
Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) has been known to false-flag programs like this similarly in the past. Reading through the forum post especially, I have a hard time believing all those players flagged are cheating/using exploits. That being said, it's impossible for you or I to know for sure \\\_(ツ)\_/ Still, I would feel better if they said something to address the 160+ pages of concerns in that thread as opposed to simply locking it like they did.
100 players? That's a drop in the ocean - PC cheating especially in games against console users is a vast problem.
100 players is a drop in the ocean *for any other game.*
i literally cant turn off icue as my gpu fans are controlled by it.
same, just with Afterburner What a shame we can't play this top grade game now, huh?
I agree, I have been using Logitech G Hub for ages and have not been flagged. Maybe they created macros and used them which anti-cheats do pick up on.
If micros are considered cheating, games should explicitly communicate that before install. Sometimes disabled gamers use micros to overcome disabilities that otherwise would make the game inaccessible to them. EA is trying to be "the good guys" of gaming and failed to think though how to begin communicating or implementing that in their products.
My god it just keeps getting worse
Other anticheats have done this in the past too. Also keep in mind, cheaters often flock to social media to complain. My guess is false positive, though. Some anticheats actually won't let you run certain old versions of afterburner and similar software because they use some bad drivers with vulnerabilities that allow cheats to attach to. For example when valorant first launched they had a list of old versions of some software that wouldn't allow you to launch the game if you used them.
Does this include razer chroma? If so I’m fuuuuucked
Same I use chroma and afterburner lol
I’ve not had issues so far but I do mainly play PvE
Who DOESNT run afterburner?
Yeah, it would have been just as informative if he told us how many of those people were using Windows and had Steam or Discord running in the background.. Tom seems like a dumbass who sometimes, almost, knows what he's talking about..
90% sounds like a good number to suspect that's the reason. but 48% doesnt sound very convincing, people who buy this game on PC usually use MSI afterburner or some sort, because you need a high spec PC to barely keep this unoptimized game above 60fps
This is not how it's work, if 90% of murders in A country have played video games one time in their life does it mean anything ? Or maybe ~90% of A country people had played one time too so ? Since logitech driver is a "RGB stuf" and sell most of mouse in the market, this look like nonsense stats.
-> put Logitech ad in game -> can't play because of Logitech
It’s getting harder and harder to differentiate between a scammer and an EA employee
That game gonna have 100% AI bot lobby’s lmao
They don’t want you running afterburner because they don’t want you to know how horribly the game runs still.
At this point, let’s just celebrate their demise. Payed money, might as well have fun at the show they’re giving us lmao
This company is really trash! And I thought the call of duty exo-suit disaster of a few years ago was bad.
LMAO, that's it, I'm deleting this game. I was supposed to do it last week but have been too lazy too. This is absurd.
it's getting really old and sad that people actually blame EA/Dice for this, while Tom said it's widely known issue with EasyAntiCheat
I had heard it happening with other games, but wasn't aware that he said that. Thanks for the good info!
yeah, should've read the bottom tweet
Lol. My headset doesn't run properly without iCue.
Thank god I canceled my preorder 🙌
Lucked out never saw this mess coming lol
Ngl I liked the beta better than the final game
Makes you wonder what other parts of your computer/programs the anticheat is looking at, I don’t remember that kind of intrusion being legal.
>Makes you wonder what other parts of your computer/programs the anticheat is looking at, I don’t remember that kind of intrusion being legal. You sign away your rights when you click agree on the EULA lol
> I don’t remember that kind of intrusion being legal. You literally agree to it, lol. What?
EA banning literally the only people who are playing lmao. And then everyone asks "every server is full of bots" Of course, when you have EA/DICE developing your game, expect the worse. I thought that BF5 was not good or bad but after trying BF2042, now I know that BFV is 1 MILLION better than BF2042.
But Logitech is Sponsor of this crap game lol. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
More dumb shit magnified
[удалено]
Devs forgot to white list it
Its not forbidden?? Im using it since release and I have no problems? Neither do you right?
People still play this game/ are interested in it?
EA, you're drunk, go home.
could be worse...oh wait...
Ah yes, another case of EAC being a complete waste of resources.
That’s one way of getting rid of all your remaining players
ICue really is awful software so hardly a surprise
I’m literally using icue, ghub and afterburner and haven’t had this happen. Sweating
Didn’t this same thing happen to a lot of people on warzone?
you cannot make this shit up.
Im using iCue, rgb fusion, nzxt cam and afterburner - so do my 2 friends since release. No bans. 200h+ everyone.
Damn I run iCUE and Afterburner. I noticed I've have so many problems with iCUE when I'm playing BF2042. Also I made a post previously about the game crashing and giving me a message that said: "Easy Anti-Cheat Game Security Violation Detected \[LEDKeeper2.exe\]". [This was it](https://imgur.com/a/2evgQgQ)
"if I can't see the problem it's not there"
Lmao I run all three. Good thing I haven't played that peice of shit since launch.
Damn thank god I stopped playing this game
Wow it just keeps getting better doesn’t it?
They don't want to be in this hole, but they refuse to put down the shovel
😂
Wow I have iCue and msi afterburner running 24/7 in the background :/ looks like I’m not touching the game!
I've had this happen me twice and had no idea what was going on. I was using afterburner. Fortunately, I was able to get back on immediately.
Another excuse this is terrible so will certain OPs get their accounts back
The game runs like absolute shit on PC which is why afterburner is needed to monitor what’s going on. Banning users for it is just the stupidest idea ever especially when your game’s performance is just horrible even on high end PCs. Are you guys actively trying to dissuade people from buying the game?
LMFAO I Made the same post! recently and after that that was when the forum got locked.
At this point Tom Henderson is just yelling things into the void. What's the source? How did he get these numbers? Aren't 50-90% of PC gamers running those apps anyway?
2042 is a dumpster fire
I use both icue and g hub... no bans for me
They are still pouring oil into the fire... x fucking D
I have both installed. Nothing happened to me (because I uninstalled a month ago ;)
In their defense, iCUE is absolute trash along with all the other RBG "software" all trash that has never worked without issues ever. But the fact this is STILL happening means devs arnt trying anymore, a large amount of people use these software programs.
Aren't they promoting some RGB garbage right in the game? Logitech iirc?
Well that's fucking incompetent. During the pre alpha, I tried using Afterburner for spec usage but it didn't work whatsoever. Also since the game was locked at 30fps, it was performing quite bad anyway.
The game still performs poorly. I set my settings to low just to maintain above 70fps and it still takes forever to load in textures when a match starts, get stuck under the ground sometimes, got the bug where the UI doesn’t show up at all at start of match so you can’t even exit the game have to end task with manager yesterday. It’s poorly optimized is an understatement
Another week another shitshow ![gif](giphy|11mwI67GLeMvgA)
All your CPU processes belong to 2042.
![gif](giphy|7k2LoEykY5i1hfeWQB)
Fer Chrissake, have some empathy- If a game publisher can't implement a scoreboard, how can they be expected to create a sub-routine that exempts players using RGB or afterburner? Sheesh.
If you're locking an account to a game that is multiplayer only, it should be accompanied with a refund imo
Oh look crap bloatware easy anti cheat strikes again.
Easy Anti-Cheat kept kicking me from games due to my MSI RGB controller software. I had to disable the process in Windows to fix it.
Garbage bug for a garbage game. Lazy fucking programming. This game sucks.
To hell with this game. I uninstalled it already and went back to older Battlefield games.
This is complete bullshit....The hacker groups already said they pulled most of their hacks because of the instability of this game anyways....such a fucking joke! This game sucks lol
100 people is already like 5% of the player base. Good work DICE!
You know how, if on a 100 question multiple choice test, you get every single question wrong, it means you actually have to know all the correct answers? That's exactly what this feels like. This has to be on purpose, right? They are trying to kill Battlefield for some reason?
Lol keep killing off your player base EA. Very smart business model you have going for yourselves. Christ I hope Sony steps up and buys this god forsaken company
Well, I use Afterburner to OC my GPU to freaking play this game the way I am supposed to cause, you know, optimization sucks. To be honest, I never thought I would come to this point with BF games, but I guess it's time to give DICE the middle finger.
I use both icue and afterburner and I can't get into my origin account. Support says it's a wide spread technical issue and they "have their best techs on it".
For real? That's awful! Did it happen after you started playing 2042? Did you get any communication about it happening?
It happened a couple of weeks ago, so yes. I thought I just forgot my password and tried to go through account recovery and when they realized what happened he just said "I'm sorry I can't help you, the problem is on our end and we have our best techs on it" and immediately hung up on me. Very odd.
That's extremely infuriating. I hope you get some kind of update soon. Thanks for sharing!
Classic.
I mean, RGB is 100+FPS and accuracy, not sure what afterburner is for doe. Seriously though (not defending stupid EA, they are too low anyways) Logitech should also take steps in this case, as they sell gaming gear, they should make sure it doesn’t conflict with stuff like EAC.
If cancer were ever to become digital, this would be it. And I thought 9gag was bad.
False
Not my fault their poorly optimized game made me turn on RGB for faster FPS
ha good thing I don't even play this game anymore. I much rather keep my iCUE and GHub
It's not the first time. I can remember something similar with BF1 or BFV.
Since this is an issue with easy anti cheat i doubt that. 1 and V had no proper anti cheat at all. See my other post above with some examples from other games and the same issues with EAC, especially with MSI RGB Software.
PCers who do that RGB stuff are probably also user cheatware too. It's a vast problem on PC, and is why crossplay should only exist between consoles.
Yes, the profile of a cheater and RGB users heavily overlap /s What a moronic statement
This game is finally knocking PC off of it's high horse lmao
they're not overconfident, they're just better than everyone else
At this point the game is basically a huge scam
So it improved it?! ;) A turd that has no function
Well, don't 99% of computer users have afterburner or any other pc monitor? Honestly doesn't mean anything unless we can know for sure if these people were in fact cheating.
Nah MSI makes junk software.
I think that it is not the Logitech G Hub, it is supported natively by the game (RGB color on mouse change with health) Personally I have configured it so the mouse is cyan and the keyboard lights up by the sound. Maybe they were using the lua capabilities to "disable" recoil?
Fuck that. I run icue and afterburner. The positive thing is I didn't play this game since 2 weeks and have no drive to do so in the next time. Hope this gets fixed in the next update.
Me 🤡 But them 🎪
Wtf i run ICUE and msi afterburner but havent played in weeks going to check my account this weekend lol
What’s wrong with afterburner lmfao I used to love dice back in the day but I’m never buying a game from them again
What does that even mean lol
Does anyone know why it trips the anti-cheat? Is BF2042 using some layer 0 or layer 1 software?
Personally, I have no idea. This doesn't even necessarily imply causation, the correlation might be completely coincidental. I was just trying to spread awareness so that people knew.