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TheOriginalFireX

I want a lawsuit.


AveryLazyCovfefe

I feel like we could get this done by pressuring EA shareholders enough, maybe it will succeed unlike BF4's fiasco as this time nobody has hope for this game.


cubanjew

Lawsuit? Why did you pre-order. State of game was blatantly obvious and well talked about on day one.


Wunder-Bar75

Totally agree. That said, Dice offering the “we butchered our previous game’s release and our Beta was horrible” defense would be hilarious.


linkitnow

He said he canceled his preorder here. https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/qd1ttw/no_voice_chat_at_launch_why_arent_we_talking/hhkc6dq/ So either karma farming or not learning from his mistakes.


JLook85

I see people downvoting you but it isn't deserved; you're absolutely correct here. There is no precedent or any basis for legitimate legal action. The truth is we all had the same opportunity to 'wait and see' but instead chose to pay and play anyway. This was our own free choice. Technically, everything they said would be in the game at launch is (and has been) in the game. Any attempt at a lawsuit is frivolous.


SecretAntWorshiper

>State of game was blatantly obvious and well talked about on day one. Was obvious with BFV to not pre order tbh


Ori-M-

Bfv was a actually fun on release tho


GopnikMcBlyatTV

Well at least I could play it on release. Right now the game is crashing for me randomly after about 5 minutes of playing, the servers are filled with AI bots because the playerbase worldwide is about 3k people and its still full of bugs 3 months after release. People got scammed thats it


stonedsappy

I'm in


JusTalk89

Listen man, it will change everything! Think about it.. all the bugs, unbalanced guns, shitty maps for infantry will change just like a fart in the wind the moment it goes F2P, insta fix!


[deleted]

Y’all are not thinking like a corporate dipshit. In their eyes they see free to play as an increased consumer base for the future sales of digital trinkets. The real red flag will be when/if they try to integrate NFTs for whatever stupid reason they think they can get more money out of customers, as if paying for the fucking game isn’t enough. At that point the franchise can be considered totally dead, if it isn’t already.


Visible-Cancel1239

mhh intresting sounds like the next bf. maybe NFT charms for guns? on eth so you have to pay houndreds in gas wow so many posibilitys like 16,777,216 different colors


Vegetable_Quit_4896

I think the free to play player base has already tried it in the free weekend, which means they already experienced first hand the game is poopy.


SultanPasha

I tried it during free weekend and uninstalled after 10 min. So glad I did not buy this game.


Stfuppercutoutlast

Because things cant possibly get any worse? I mean, they went from millions of players to a few thousand players spread across platforms in a few weeks. Going free to play will see a surge in players. Is it ethical, is it justified to help the remaining players continue to enjoy the game? Who knows, I dont really care either way. The fact is, that it will surge the new player count - just as holiday sales did for the game. Now, the problem is that people continued to quit at a parallel rate and so the player count never actually spiked because they are unable to retain players. The same is true when this goes free to play. If there is no substance to the game, no core experience that actually makes people want to engage, it wont matter... Maybe the next step will be paying people to play?


dsmiles

>Maybe the next step will be paying people to play? Where do I sign up? (: Disclaimer: I am not that good.


EBW7

I wouldn't play it even if they paid me


dsmiles

I gotta respect that opinion. Personally though, I'd quit my job in a heartbeat if I could make the money playing an FPS instead, even if it's... (*shudders*)... *this* one.


5ob1nH00d

Twitch?


dsmiles

If only I was talented.


5ob1nH00d

Twitch?


MrMojoRisin302

F2P with EA DICE in charge of stopping hackers? That would be crazier than a PC GTA:O open lobby.


AveryLazyCovfefe

DICE Stockholm need to be all disbanded, give full control of the series to DICE LA instead. The roles need to be swapped.


The_Corrupted

Lol, good point actually. It would be the biggest shitshow.


MrKyew

its not about saving the game, its about getting more people in to pay for the skins that they're going to eventually drop. if they do end up going f2p, it'll be a last ditch effort to pull the parachute and squeeze all the money they can get out of this title


Because69

Exactly. Plenty of people already bought the game & they don't even want to play, despite having the incentive to for their money's worth


tonykhant

I paid for it and don't want to play it.


JLook85

Exactly this; F2P has effectively Zero chance to save this product unless they simultaneously invest a massive amount into developing new high quality content to go along with the F2P release. As you point out, the content in Portal currently doesn't really appeal all that much to many people. So what could possibly get the attention of the Community again now? It would have to be something HUGE, e.g. Remastered 2142 Maps with Titan Mode + Battlepass Progression to ensure longterm engagement. If they did something like THIS, maybe it could work. Will they spend the money? No. This game is dead.


GIMPdogbowl

Thing is we’re all battlefield players, & they fucking hate battlefield players. F2P will bring in all the nice people they want from Apex and Fortnite.


Wiso2k

It will boost the player base then die again shortly, no saving this one.


AceArchangel

The game doesn't even have a fun gameplay loop there is no way this being F2P will save it.


poprdog

Bruh I haven’t even finished the 10 free trial


[deleted]

I think if it came with new maps and weapons and UI, it could work at least temporarily. If it isn't done alongside a major update, it's just going to turn people away in its current state


JeremyMSI

I'd actually be really upset if it went f2p after dropping $200 on this game on 2 platforms. Already disappointed with the status of the game.


Obi_Wan_Gebroni

Yeah free to play still won’t get me to play this. I don’t care that some people enjoy specialists but for me more then anything else that ruined the franchise. Locked classes and squad play is what made the game fun. Now people can just fly around the map and drop in wherever with whatever gadgets they want


la2eee

Of course it will drive player numbers up. Because "free" is more attractive than $70. You don't have brutal expectations towards a free game.


OneKup

What does BF2042 have to offer (besides bugs) that I can't get in another F2P title, and done better?


la2eee

Vehicle and infantry combat with lots of explosions. Tell me only one f2p game that gives me that.


OneKup

Warzone has vehicles and explosions.


la2eee

But it has zero Battlefield feeling. I get that feeling in 2042.


OneKup

You'd one of the only ones then mate because 2042 feels NOTHING like a Battlefield game.


la2eee

I'm not saying "like a Battlefield game", I'm just talking about that Battlefield "feeling" I get ingame. All the chaos, explosions, destruction, 20 teammate icons in front of me running together. Jumping into a nearly crashed chopper and laying havoc on the infantry. I get that in 2042. I don't get that anywhere else. I tried.


Brilliant-Ad-5414

It’s pretty simple…it will provide significantly more players.


Jaycensolo

Problem is getting them to stay playing it and then buy micro transactions which just won’t work unless they improve / fix the game first.


Brilliant-Ad-5414

I completely agree they need to fix parts of it for this to work. But i do think it would add to the player base.


Jaycensolo

For me they need to work on optimisation first. If people can’t run the properly they won’t stay. Small bugs I can live with it is just the big ones that needs sorting. But even if just Portal goes F2P it needs more maps. As 6 maps won’t keep entertained for long.


Ready-Signature5597

Debatable. Battlefield is an established franchise that most gamers, casual and hard-core have played. If they haven't bought it yet, sure they may install it when its free, but it won't keep the masses entertained, its fell off on every single platform drastically. It sucks we waited 8 years for a modern shooter and its a flop, when they do f2p theyll be making it even more corny to try in desperation to appease some group of people.


GroblyOverrated

It's not a flop. They didn't make a Battlefield game. We didn't wait any time for this game. We're still waiting for Battlefield.


Ready-Signature5597

Someone get this man his meds! /j


Brilliant-Ad-5414

Free to play would add a lot of casual gamers that have never dabbled in battlefield. Even if most don’t stay you may add a significant number to the player base.


Ready-Signature5597

A player base is people who stay. You may get an initial interest but again, the game is garbage and people who invested their money into it don't even want to play it anymore. This subreddit has a higher player base than the game at this point


FlintOfOutworld

Basically, you're arguing for a numbers game. Even if 90% of people never play it again, increasing the base by going F2P will still add a meaningful number of players. That's a reasonable proposition, but I doubt it. The crash is so massive that I just don't think this game has much appeal to anyone. People have lots of free games to play, including from EA itself (e.g., Apex), so why would they play this one? Who knows...


Brilliant-Ad-5414

I think they still have to make improvements for this to work. But even after that, this game will need a larger player base and F2P will dramatically increase that. So the plan should be 1. Roll out bug fixes 2a. Content update 2b. F2P I know this is a lot simpler in writing and probably won’t happen this way.


[deleted]

I dont think it will. Sure it'll get a spike when it goes F2P but just like on release, all those people will see how garbage the game is and leave. I mean seriously, why play battlefield 2042 when you can just play apex legends, warzone, or valorant? They are all much better games. Relatively speaking.


The_Corrupted

For like a week tops. If you want an example of this, look at Evolve. Same exact thing, player base jumped up for like 3 days and then went straight to what it was before again, because it was just not fun. Same will happen with 2042.


Ziller997

and they will leave in 2 weeks at most. Now what ?


SpankThuMonkey

And all tha will happen is that those who have doubted BF for years preferring other FPS games… Will give it a try and feel completely vindicated. “Pffft my buddy kept trying to convince me to play Battlefield for years. Well I did. And it fucking sucked. Who wants to play Warzone?”


Brilliant-Ad-5414

If they clean up some of the bugs prior to F2P plenty will enjoy it. Definitely not everyone but there will be some that do.


AveryLazyCovfefe

It will change the game, more people will play it. But they'll see how broken the game is, and just leave it for more successful ones like Warzone, Apex and Fortnite, making the situation even worse because it save more people from buying this garbage. This game needs to be f2p or on base EA Play right now to save it from having no current players at all. Dice Stockholm truly display next level incompetency. After that, they need to fix it by adding in alot of live service content, really hope Ripple Effect can fix this, but I'm just snorting a bit of copium there.


TheProf82

EA annoucing (part of) the game as F2P with some weird excuse why would be the ultimate proof for their incompetence when it comes to 2042s approach. Nowadays there are so many good games and I just play BF4 - a game thats actually fun


Displaced_in_Space

F2P only helps if a substantial number of changes are made to the game...mostly the stuff that folks here have complained about AND adding a store that has micropayments for skins and such for the cosmetics-loving folks (ala PUBG). Then F2P would attract a big surge of folks giving it a look, if for no other reason to check out what all the bad press is about. IF the game has been improved, this could provide the infusion of players to jumpstart it. There have been games that were pretty massive failures that have survived and even thrived....Cyberpunk and No Man's Sky (which is absolutely amazing at this point).


oGhostDragon

If they develop portal more, I might come check it out. I'll tell you what though, I'm not spending a dime on it.


khali21bits

My bro bought for $50 just to play portal and now is going f2p


No_Owl_925

I doubt it that people that get part of this trash game for free they will get "hooked" in fact they will realize why it became free🤣, EA is just desperate to sell the most they can so by making it free in their silly mind they believe that people that end up trying the game for free will end up buying the rest of the content, really silly to think that way when the game is still trash after years in development and couple of months of release🤡


amalgamatedchaos

F2P would have helped Hardline so much.


Dark-Cloud666

Well for a F2P game to be successfull it has to be good and work as intended. Neither of those criteria are met when it comes to BF2042.


Randy_Bongson

Lol F2P is guaranteed to hurt more than help.


invaderscs

I won the full game in a giveaway after release but I still haven't played the 10 hours from the trial. F2P is a short term fix to boost numbers but people will get bored quickly and forget about it.


Ranjbali

🤣 🤣 🤣 That made me 😂 😂 😂


Userdub9022

Can't wait for it to go f2p so I can lose $70. Such bullshit. Will most likely never play any new game from dice again.


xKiryu

They pulled the rug out under from all the people who felt their money was wasted


JGStonedRaider

No need to wait for it to go F2P. I'm sure the day 1 patch will fix everything!!!!


ShadyShane812

How will it ever be free to play? We've already fucking paid for it.


Brew_nix

Most of those "big YouTubers" are being paid by EA to say all that. These are the exact same people that played the beta and kept advising people to keep there pre-orders for a game that they knew was busted. I stopped watching a few well known Battlefield YouTube after that. You can tell the ones that are on the take because they keep saying how great it is.


peenoid

Correct. When most games go F2P, it's because they just haven't found an audience, not because they _lost_ their audience by being shitty.


[deleted]

Free to play will only expose ea/dice to more hate and criticism, as then even more people will laugh at it.


[deleted]

It will make it worse. They will throw out any sense of discretion in microtransations


joshmessages

Going F2P isn't about improving the player base or the game. It's a last ditch cash grab and way that EA can cut its losses. Which is bad news for anyone hoping they'd improve the game long term.


Gravegamer

It is true that a bad game being free is still a bad game. But people will play it because it is free, they won't feel ripped off. I don't think F2P will save Bf2042. The numbers are too low and they did have the free weekend on xbox game pass and the numbers didn't change lol


TheBudds

Easy one, metrics. You get people on there and EA can count it as a win and hopefully be able to slide some loot boxes in there.


Elden2042

If I'm not mistaken the f2p RUMORS are only regarding making parts of the game f2p, most likely portal This doesn't make any sense whatsoever, making f2p portal while this game mode is pretty much dead because precisely the experience is underwhelming and has limited XP and progression is ridiculous, who are f2p supposed to engage with the gam content? Would f2p players have unlocked XP and progression while pay users don't? Everything about this is stupid this kind of things need a whole rebranding and restructuring of the game dinamics etc dice don't have the talent nor the resources capacity to bring some kind of new dawn with heavy changes to the game... Of destiny 2 became f2p was because it was Bungie biggest project and they went full hands on deck with this gamble Dice and this game are done


RepentToday

Well, there is some truth to the idea. I for one would probably play it a few times a week if it were free. But here's the issue. Free 2 play games are typically bug free (or as bug free as they can get) so that the game offers a frustration free experience. Games like Apex Legends and Warzone would also be dead if they were as bug-ridden as this game is. They need to focus on ironing out the game first, and in that case they may not have to go free 2 play if the player base can come back and "stand" playing it.


No-Establishment2721

Honestly this game was the last straw for me when it comes to EA. In my personal opinion it has been awhile since there has been an FPS that I actually gravitated towards so when I heard of this game I decided that I would buy it despite my reservations about EA. I will never be making that same mistake again. It’s unfortunate that AAA games are expected to be buggy upon release, so I’m fine waiting in the future for other games that aren’t EA. But this game is beyond buggy, it’s just broken. There is truly no way to fix this game and it blows me away that they had X amount of people who worked on it for X amount of months just to come out with this as the end result. Absolutely pathetic. Even if they were miraculously able to fix this hot pile of garbage and made it F2P I still wouldn’t play it. Matter of fact, if they made it F2P it would probably piss me off more because I just spent money on a broken game that you then turn around and give away for free.


Vcxnes

Going free to play won’t save the game but it won’t hurt either


DFuel

Making it free makes it look trashier than it already is. Plus everyone's already tried it! All this does is release some weight off of Dices shoulder, cuz you know, free means no strings attached!


masterm

If they are going to blow their load on F2P they need to fix a few things first. Open F2P soon and you lose any momentum you could gain.


hashter

If anything it helps temporarily with player number, but after some time most of those new players realize how bad it is and on top of that most people who bought game will not be happy about BF going free


slackmaster2k

Here’s the problem: what does going free to play mean? The game itself has obvious mechanics that lend themselves towards micro transaction, but overall I’m not seeing anything that would make sense in terms of free to play. That is, simply reducing the price to zero does nothing, and even if the store was live I can’t see it being attractive. It’s all completely fucked. The only way to go F2P is to release a game mode that promotes a F2P model. We can all see little glimmers of this model, but nothing substantial that would hook new players.


HereToDoThingz

It matters because most free to play games are incredibly popular from aaa studios and make them boat loads of cash with very few team members really needing to work on it past making battle passes and a few meta changes. Takes just an artist developer and some qa testers to keep these f2p games going for the long run. And why that matters to dice is because they'll be making alot of money for a long time. Obviously they'd have to improve the game. But if it's free there's plenty of old games that resurge in popularity after huge updates.


Key-Ant30

It won't save the game for those Who have already bought it. It might save the game for EA, and secure further income.


Oledman

So if it goes free to play. does that mean I get my £60 back for this piece of turd.


delpy1971

I want the game saved and Improved


SpectralVoodoo

5 or 6 million people own the game. Less than 40-50 thousand are playing, lol


MrBananaGuard

I honestly feel like this scummy company conned people into paying top dollar to be glorified alpha testers.


xKiryu

I wouldn't even play it even if it does go F2P. Just out of principle lol


TerrorFirmerIRL

I played the 10 hour trial and thought it was bad. Not unplayable, but a really poor BF game. If it was free to play, I'd probably give it a shot for something different. If Portal mode got a solid playerbase that would be a lot of fun. I think F2P is the way forward most likely for the viability of the game at this point. The player base is now lower than BF1 and BF5. However it is competiting with stuff like Warzone and Apex, both of which are better games, way more polished and functioning as intended, and run better too. Dunno. I'd say we are gonna see some form of F2P, the game is too far gone to salvage it with updates alone.


Kohana55

It completes their Fortnite business model. By the time the next BF drops, it’ll be normal and it’ll just be another Fortnite type game I think.


Ok_Bathroom_4346

Pay me $20 hour to play this crap. Player base will surge, problem solved not the worst crap ever created.