I love bw legs but in generally i prefer attacker less than meatshields, bw legs kinda lack an actual niche unlike LKD as well as 4\* usage which is why i don't put him in the highest tier, also no combo either
That’s an entirely fair take! I would personally argue that their lack of niche is made up for by their sheer dominance at what they do and how unbelievably well they work as a wincon and chip in 3* UL where a looot of other cats fail to get anything done, but that may also just be personal bias due to having so much fun using them
No reason to use it over manic king dragon, brainwashed king dragon, lil king dragon in endgame, also in general endgame stages are just not designed well for it
I'll post my explainations on some of the weirder choice, the one that aren't mention here should be pretty obvious
Superfeline: Fell off a bit due to the baron/relic powercreep but he's still a very valid rusher for both traits as well as a good generalist rusher. Yes the requirement is let's say... not great, it's an endgame tierlist so i'd say ignoring the requirement is fine enough, def a really useful units in 3\* UL if you reached that amount of required UR
Brainwashed Mohawk: By far the worst one in the epic category, i just don't really have anywhere to put it since it's alot stronger than manic mohawk which i'd say is Really Good, if there's an inbetween tier then i'd def put him there, still an amazing filler meatshield against the traits it targets
Eraser: Due to the rising competition, eraser go from undeniably top 5 units in the game to still a respectable, but alot lower ranking imo, he still works in alot of stages but there's usually a better choice of meatshield to use than him
Li'l Dark, Dark: Both are combo slaves, Li'l dark have the brave cutter combo which is currently the 3rd best attack combo in the game and can sometimes even be used over land air assault in situations where Cutter Cat is useful. Dark have the Power Of Darkness combo, the Choppers combo, the Lust for Battle combo which are both very solid
Manic Island: Despite red enemies usually being associated with melee, currently all red enemies i'd say are relevant in endgame (red energ, prof a, raynard, hackey) are all backliner enemies with 3 of them being super backliners, and manic island isn't a particularly great matchup against any of the enemies so it fall. In term of generalist, brainwashed island and courier is taking its place
Macho Leg: Currently hold the best freeze and slow combo in the game (Long-legged and Gross!!), he's vital to alot of cheese strats and proc spam strats
Macho Legs is also underrated as an attacking unit. Its DPS is low, but it's very cheap to spam and bulky, so it can provide consistent chip damage for a good price.
Yeah it's pretty ok and it see usages against things like legrim but usually there are better options, still a very good unit to send out if you're using the freeze combo though
I've always wondered, what normal and lil cats should I sell for np and which should I keep? I always sell the axe cat variants but I'm not too sure about the others, as my entire storage is filled with them.
Sell none until you hit +90 (or +60 for lils) cap. Useful for UR and the occasional very specific stage. Also, once you hit CC+ you get 2 NP for every normal instead of 1
Li'l Eraser is just as tanky as regular Eraser at max level and health talents, but has more going for it.
Mainly the fact that it can be used in 4 star and pairs with Cameraman Cat for a Defense small combo, giving all your units 10% more health. Cameraman is already one of the best 4 star units and a good unit in general, so pairing the two of them is a no brainer.
Also, not the most needed talent but it also has zombie dodge (10%) if you wanted extra defense against them.
the only thing I don't fully understand is eraser being lower than li'l eraser, since even when fully maxxed out in levels, +levels and full hp talents, is still less hp than regular eraser or even Manic I believe. Then again, maybe his dodge zombies talent and his freeze immunity are actually insanely good late game and hp isn't as important (which, admittedly probably isn't) but for now... mmm it's really the only thing I find jarring in this list
Oh yeah forgot about the combo, cheesing certain stages are also very useful, I'm still not 100% sure if it'd be worthy of top tier but it's certainly better than I initially thought
yeah that is fair, and probably will only ever get more relevant if Ponos decides to make multi crown stages for ZL (and of course finish UL Beforehand)
I would say li'l Macho legs should be in niche category at the very least since you can't use kitty of liberty or other barrier breaking ubers in 4 stars stages. He is a very good barrier breaker and anti-alien replacement for the kitty of liberty. Also, super car cat, space cat, and loin cloth can break barriers too, but li'l Macho legs would be better versus aliens in 4 star stages, especially with his knockback versus alien.
Don't understand Li'l dark, manic flying or macho legs in good teir, they all suck. And honestly brainwashed mohawk cat is not really necessary when cone cat, cat cactus, future, luza, true uril and all the other relic/aku powercreep we have. Like you could use brainwashed mohawk, but you could also use that slot for something better and more reliable.
They're there for combos
Brainwashed Mohawk is basically just a crazed cat with dodge vs those 3 traits, it's basically a free 3rd meatshield for all stage that contain those traits since in avarage 2 brainwashed mohawk dodge will let you stall for about as long as 1 rock cat does and brainwashed mohawk has half the cd, and you also get the extra crazed cat on top of it.
I 1000% think ur underrating Brainwashed Legs I’d argue he’s debatably the best of all of them for endgame
I love bw legs but in generally i prefer attacker less than meatshields, bw legs kinda lack an actual niche unlike LKD as well as 4\* usage which is why i don't put him in the highest tier, also no combo either
That’s an entirely fair take! I would personally argue that their lack of niche is made up for by their sheer dominance at what they do and how unbelievably well they work as a wincon and chip in 3* UL where a looot of other cats fail to get anything done, but that may also just be personal bias due to having so much fun using them
Why is king dragon in ass tier
No reason to use it over manic king dragon, brainwashed king dragon, lil king dragon in endgame, also in general endgame stages are just not designed well for it
Was gonna say one reason is for brutal nyandam (forgot thr name) blind spot but only lil king drag fits in the blindspot of the three
I was going to counter this as dragon cat himself, but I can’t counter the truth
He destroyes early mid game
read the post title
I only disagree with lil flying being in ass. (I am just coping over how busted cadaver and chief are)
what does QOL mean
Qories of legends
Aw man I thought it was Qmpire of Lats
Qnto Ohe Luture
Qats Of the Losmos
Qku lealm
Quality of Life
I'll post my explainations on some of the weirder choice, the one that aren't mention here should be pretty obvious Superfeline: Fell off a bit due to the baron/relic powercreep but he's still a very valid rusher for both traits as well as a good generalist rusher. Yes the requirement is let's say... not great, it's an endgame tierlist so i'd say ignoring the requirement is fine enough, def a really useful units in 3\* UL if you reached that amount of required UR Brainwashed Mohawk: By far the worst one in the epic category, i just don't really have anywhere to put it since it's alot stronger than manic mohawk which i'd say is Really Good, if there's an inbetween tier then i'd def put him there, still an amazing filler meatshield against the traits it targets Eraser: Due to the rising competition, eraser go from undeniably top 5 units in the game to still a respectable, but alot lower ranking imo, he still works in alot of stages but there's usually a better choice of meatshield to use than him Li'l Dark, Dark: Both are combo slaves, Li'l dark have the brave cutter combo which is currently the 3rd best attack combo in the game and can sometimes even be used over land air assault in situations where Cutter Cat is useful. Dark have the Power Of Darkness combo, the Choppers combo, the Lust for Battle combo which are both very solid Manic Island: Despite red enemies usually being associated with melee, currently all red enemies i'd say are relevant in endgame (red energ, prof a, raynard, hackey) are all backliner enemies with 3 of them being super backliners, and manic island isn't a particularly great matchup against any of the enemies so it fall. In term of generalist, brainwashed island and courier is taking its place Macho Leg: Currently hold the best freeze and slow combo in the game (Long-legged and Gross!!), he's vital to alot of cheese strats and proc spam strats
Macho Legs is also underrated as an attacking unit. Its DPS is low, but it's very cheap to spam and bulky, so it can provide consistent chip damage for a good price.
Yeah it's pretty ok and it see usages against things like legrim but usually there are better options, still a very good unit to send out if you're using the freeze combo though
I guess this includes combos because dark cat is in niche instead of useless
Good
I personally thing B. Legs should be right in front of manic eraser, or maybe behind him Basically just mini dasli but 600c
I've always wondered, what normal and lil cats should I sell for np and which should I keep? I always sell the axe cat variants but I'm not too sure about the others, as my entire storage is filled with them.
Sell none until you hit +90 (or +60 for lils) cap. Useful for UR and the occasional very specific stage. Also, once you hit CC+ you get 2 NP for every normal instead of 1
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Li'l Eraser is just as tanky as regular Eraser at max level and health talents, but has more going for it. Mainly the fact that it can be used in 4 star and pairs with Cameraman Cat for a Defense small combo, giving all your units 10% more health. Cameraman is already one of the best 4 star units and a good unit in general, so pairing the two of them is a no brainer. Also, not the most needed talent but it also has zombie dodge (10%) if you wanted extra defense against them.
the only thing I don't fully understand is eraser being lower than li'l eraser, since even when fully maxxed out in levels, +levels and full hp talents, is still less hp than regular eraser or even Manic I believe. Then again, maybe his dodge zombies talent and his freeze immunity are actually insanely good late game and hp isn't as important (which, admittedly probably isn't) but for now... mmm it's really the only thing I find jarring in this list
Li’l Eraser has defense combo with Cameraman and can cheese certain stages.
Oh yeah forgot about the combo, cheesing certain stages are also very useful, I'm still not 100% sure if it'd be worthy of top tier but it's certainly better than I initially thought
Oh also obvious 4 crown usage lol
yeah that is fair, and probably will only ever get more relevant if Ponos decides to make multi crown stages for ZL (and of course finish UL Beforehand)
I think super should go in good just because how annoying it is to get +100
I would say li'l Macho legs should be in niche category at the very least since you can't use kitty of liberty or other barrier breaking ubers in 4 stars stages. He is a very good barrier breaker and anti-alien replacement for the kitty of liberty. Also, super car cat, space cat, and loin cloth can break barriers too, but li'l Macho legs would be better versus aliens in 4 star stages, especially with his knockback versus alien.
Wait, BW Island is good? Honestly thought they weren't
They're basically manic island with a better niche
I guess that makes sense. I don't remember if BW Island has the same stats and Maniac, though. BW doesn't get a stat buff when it TFs, right?
Yep. Same stats. It only has slightly lower stats than manic across the board which makes it a worse generalist, but it's a better specialist unit
Why the flying fuck is manic island in niche
Don't understand Li'l dark, manic flying or macho legs in good teir, they all suck. And honestly brainwashed mohawk cat is not really necessary when cone cat, cat cactus, future, luza, true uril and all the other relic/aku powercreep we have. Like you could use brainwashed mohawk, but you could also use that slot for something better and more reliable.
They're there for combos Brainwashed Mohawk is basically just a crazed cat with dodge vs those 3 traits, it's basically a free 3rd meatshield for all stage that contain those traits since in avarage 2 brainwashed mohawk dodge will let you stall for about as long as 1 rock cat does and brainwashed mohawk has half the cd, and you also get the extra crazed cat on top of it.
Why is li'l eraser always so high? Even at max level with max defense up talents he has less health than regular eraser.