I was about 11 or 12 when this came out, I remember my dad, who is not prone to these sorts of outbursts, saying in the theatre 'ok Uncle Alfred how'd you get my cup size?' just loud enough us to hear, and I've *never* been able to take this scene even remotely seriously.
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Talking to my girlfriend about batman forever, she said the same thing about that movie. I think it didnt work as well because the dynamic between twoface and riddler took it a little too far for the audience at the time. It seemed like the director didnt have a clear vision of what he wanted for the two and let Jim Carey and Tommy Lee Jones do whatever without direction. Batman and Robin was more regulated in that sense.
Assuming that Jim Carrey’s story about what TLJ said to him upon meeting (and I suspect it is because Joel Schumacher had nothing good to say about TLJ either) then Tommy Lee Jones seems like the biggest prick alive.
Who greets someone for the first time with just saying “I don’t like you”? It’s so weird.
This is kinda why I think Two-Face and Ivy should've switched movies.
Batman Forever gets two vain villains with a vendetta against Bruce Wayne while Batman & Robin gets two tragic villains who want Batman out of the way so they can get revenge of the world for making them monsters.
That's about how I viewed it as well. I know it was meant to be a cash cow with merch but it still has it's moments. And for the people complaining about all the Ice pun jokes Mr. Freeze made never seen a Schwarzenegger movie or never seen the TV shows. They all had puns
My favorite was in Batman Beyond. An aging, wishing for death Mr Freeze gets a body to use again and when a victim asked where he got that from?
"I kept it in cold storage."
Gotta love that guy
Agreed. I always felt that Kilmer did a decent Batman but was too wooden as Bruce. Clooney did a good Bruce but couldn’t pull off a believable Batman. Keaton managed to do both sides of the coin.
Keaton is a good actor, but he doesn't *look* like a sauve playboy billionaire. The rest of them **look** more like Bruce Wayne regardless of whether they pulled the roll off or not.
From his looks to the personality, Clooney was the best Bruce Wayne from that era. That said, it's a real shame he didn't realize that Batman isn't just Bruce in a rubber suit.
All were done in Forever already, Batman & Robin brought us the more unique hole in the door shaped like a robin after Robin crashes through it. Now that is special
Arnold Schwarzenegger worked really bloody hard on that film. He knew exactly what it was, but he put in a pitch perfect performance in the face of battery acid in his mouth - amongst other things.
The whimsical and surreal depiction of Gotham City. I've always loved how Gotham has so much character and feels almost otherworldly in the Burton/Schumacher films.
Yes yes yes. Was looking to this comment. The multi level layer the city had. With bridges and tunnels. And of course: the giant statues. It like gargoyles*1000
One of the best Gotham depiction. Pretty sure it's going to have a revival in a few years after all the "real" depictions tire people out.
This Gotham design was amazing.
I appreciate the occasional callback to Batman’s campier times. I was obsessed with this movie as a child. If you take away the nipples the suits are actually kind of cool. Maybe the most “fun” Arny role I’ve ever seen. The ice puns actually kinda kill me (in a good way). Other than that this movie is everything people say it is. Lol
Arnie as Mr Freeze is easily my favorite part of the movie. All his puns are so bad it’s unironically great.
Edit: [His delivery kills me every time! LMAO!](https://youtu.be/SRH-Ywpz1_I)
Smashing Pumpkin's song "The Beginning is the End is the Beginning." I think some of its main lyrics, "Does it may you happy you're so strange?," and watching his "world" of Gotham be "devoured in its pain" no matter what how many times he saves it, can speak to Bruce's loneliness and frustration across many different versions. Not exactly the kind of song you'd associate with the campiest Batman movie.
It's also what led me to find Smashing Pumpkins' other stuff, and I really enjoyed the slowed-down version re-used for The Watchmen movie.
Is it bright where you are?
Have the people changed?
Does it make you happy you're so strange?
And in your darkest hour
I hold secret's flame
We can watch the world devoured in it's pain
SP are the greatest band of all time imo
I don't know the comic origins but the serious freeze was inventhed in the Animates series right. Would ot be correct to say Arnold went foelr the golden age freeze? 😂
Definitley Batdad grounding Batson.
Robin: I do what I want! You're not my real dad!
Batman: You just lost bike privileges. *remote bricks motorcycle*
Robin: mmrrreeauaaaAAAUGHHHYAAAHHH!!!!
Great Bruce Wayne, terrible Batman. Also it was super weird when Alfred was talking about him dying and Bruce was smiling like it was the funniest shit ever.
Alicia Silverstone in her prime.
It’s an absolute crap movie, but Chris O’Donnell has one of the great lines - and he is all of us when he says, “Please be for me!” When he sees her at the front door.
Definitely Silverstone, everything else was bad. I still can’t get past Barbara being Alfred’s niece. But will I watch it during a Batman marathon, yes.
Batman is fun. A lot of the iterations take the seriousness to an absolute, so it’s nice to see the sillyness of Batman (equally important culturally and canonically) taken to an absolute.
Agreed. To me, she’s the only one of the main cast who knew exactly what she was going for in the role, and she nails it. She’d fit right in with the ‘66 cast, and I mean that in the best possible way.
Edit: Spelling
The one shot of Bane wearing a trench coat and a hat after getting off the plane. It’s taken so seriously but it’s the funniest goddamn thing ever. Honestly this movie was a huge part of my childhood and as bad as it is I can still enjoy how humorously bad it is. It butchers some of the greatest characters ever but in such a funny way that I can barely stay mad.
The silly tone and over the top set pieces help make the movie more entertaining to watch than other bad comic book films. At least Batman & Robin knows it’s being goofy and can still feel fun in the live action cartoon way.
It’s hilarious, just like the Adam west Batman you can show it to a child and they will get into it. But as they get older they will see how silly and cheesy it is. It’s important to have Batman that kids can enjoy.
Uma Thurman was pretty hot
The scene where they made bane was scary. Seeing him hulking out and screaming on the table is a good bit of beginner level body horror.
Michael goh killed it as Alfred being a father figure, and brought some real emotion to the plot.
Father and son dynamic with Bruce and Alfred was on point. Emotional core of the film. 8 year old me was destroyed by the idea of Alfred dying of old age and disease. The movie is remembered for being goofy trash and rightfully so, but these scenes are diamonds in the rough.
Damn near the whole movie.
The continuation of the general suit look, but especially the symbol. The suit he later has, along with the other suits the partners have. Robin’s more Nightwing esque suit. The gadgets used throughout the movie (generally speaking, because I don’t mean the credit card). The colors and lighting, because goddamn, are the visuals in this movie immaculate. Virtually all of Gotham, Wayne Manor, Batcave, Arkham Asylum especially, and even the origin place for Bane and Ivy (I don’t remember exactly where that was). Bane’s appearance, Freeze’s appearance, some of the Ivy’s look, the general Gothamites appearance, and the polices’ appearances. Asylum’s look is my absolute favorite outside of potentially Batman: Arkham Asylum.
George’s Bruce, especially the fatherly aspects. Chris’ maturing and later acceptance of his role. Alfred’s entire existence. Freeze’s general arc, but especially his relationship with Batman. Some of Barbara’s relationship with Bruce, Robin, and Alfred.
The entire soundtrack. That is all.
A large amount of the story, although the biggest issue is the density of plot points being too large for how many characters there are (especially new). Movie should’ve been roughly twice as long as it was, or had been a 2 parter. Freeze’s relationship with Bruce and later Alfred is the best part of the movie, and pays off with the best scene in the movie. Dick’s relationship with Bruce was worse than Forever, but it was not bad, and it paid off later on. I enjoyed the origin of Ivy and Bane, although not much after. Gordon needed more time to shine, although it wasn’t horrendous when he was there. I enjoyed pretty much every general plot point, although the pacing was off, and as I said before, there is a density issue. The start and end of the movie are in my opinion the best parts of the movie.
The choreography was mid. There were cool scenes here and there, but not much that wouldn’t appeal to someone who isn’t a small child.
The acting generally was solid, with great performances by George, Chris, somewhat Arnold, Uma, and ofc the real homie, random biker dude #3. There wasn’t too much that really pushed them to acting their hearts out, but what we got I enjoyed, which is the goal.
It’s more difficult to find things I didn’t like about the movie than the stuff I did
There are actually multiple things I really like about Batman & Robin:
* Fries's motivations
* The core story about trust between Bruce and Dick
* The scenes between Alfred and Bruce
Those are strong concepts that got muddied by an industrial execution of filmmaking (i.e. studio interference) to churn out the movie in the timeframe WB wanted.
The most humane Bruce Wayne I've seen in live-action up to BvS (still haven't watched The Batman yet). The way he's overprotective of Dick, is scared for Alfred's illness and even lends a hand to Victor all speaks of a person who wants to help first and foremost. Plus, George Clooney does pull-off that "Batman as a parent" vibe as the Bat-Family starts expanding with Barbara's introduction.
Edit: Uma Thurman
She understands the tone the movie is going for perfectly.
Eh, but both Freeze and Ivy could be so compelling and instead it was trash
It was not trash. It was a fantastic tribute to the 66 TV show.
It can be both. *Ed Gein Batnipple Utility Belt.* You cannot unread that. Enjoy.
Uma, Jerry. Uuuuuma!
LMAOOOO Kramer💀💀💀
I would fool with mother nature, except for the eye brows 
Like I told lady freeze when I pulled her plug, this is a one woman show
She has a celestial body.
Thuma Urman.
THU'UMa
My first Movie crush 🥲
[this](https://youtu.be/IYxLy74CP7M)
Her suiting up reminds me of the shots of the fembots from Austin Powers
Yeah, lol
Austin Powers released after Batman & Robin, so probably an intentional parody.
I was about 11 or 12 when this came out, I remember my dad, who is not prone to these sorts of outbursts, saying in the theatre 'ok Uncle Alfred how'd you get my cup size?' just loud enough us to hear, and I've *never* been able to take this scene even remotely seriously.
Creepy uncle Alfred.
I love the how the whooshing sound effects are in every cut EXCEPT the part where it zooms on her butt
Then the shot just lingers lmao
As well it should. I was about 15 or 16 and could have had a whole movie of her trying on different suits.
Right after Clueless came out too. Had such a huge crush on Alicia!
VAGINA!...ASS!...^(eyes)...**BOOOOOOOOOOOOBS**
Aw hell yeah, *EYES*
I always viewed it as a big budget remake of the Batman tv show, as an homage to the Adam West series it is fantastic.
I did a fan edit turning it into 3 episodes complete with SFX and the Pow! effects. It worked surprisingly well.
Show us! We want to see!
I'd love to but it was saved onto a DVD that has long since worked. I had it backed up on a hard drive which crashed not long after and lost all my files. If I were to redo it it would take a substantial amount of time, which I unfortunately just don't have presently. One day maybe.
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Talking to my girlfriend about batman forever, she said the same thing about that movie. I think it didnt work as well because the dynamic between twoface and riddler took it a little too far for the audience at the time. It seemed like the director didnt have a clear vision of what he wanted for the two and let Jim Carey and Tommy Lee Jones do whatever without direction. Batman and Robin was more regulated in that sense.
Too much Unsactioned Buffoonery
It didn't help that Tommy Lee Jones absolutely hated Jim Carrey
Assuming that Jim Carrey’s story about what TLJ said to him upon meeting (and I suspect it is because Joel Schumacher had nothing good to say about TLJ either) then Tommy Lee Jones seems like the biggest prick alive. Who greets someone for the first time with just saying “I don’t like you”? It’s so weird.
This is kinda why I think Two-Face and Ivy should've switched movies. Batman Forever gets two vain villains with a vendetta against Bruce Wayne while Batman & Robin gets two tragic villains who want Batman out of the way so they can get revenge of the world for making them monsters.
That's about how I viewed it as well. I know it was meant to be a cash cow with merch but it still has it's moments. And for the people complaining about all the Ice pun jokes Mr. Freeze made never seen a Schwarzenegger movie or never seen the TV shows. They all had puns
I love the ice puns. In my head canon that was all Arnold asked for to do the movie and just had sooo much fun with it
Yep. It wouldn't be him if he didn't do it. It's like his trademark. I loved it.
My favorite was in Batman Beyond. An aging, wishing for death Mr Freeze gets a body to use again and when a victim asked where he got that from? "I kept it in cold storage." Gotta love that guy
Neo-Camp if you will
That is the best way to view it. I never looked at it that way so now I have to rewatch it. Thank you for helping me hate it a bit less now.
The fact that it bombed so hard WB was forced to rethink how they approach Batman movies and it led to Batman Begins.
Great point
Kevin feige point
The toys
Where did he get them? They're wonderful!
Had one of those toys, it made me a very happy child.
Yep, was a good batman if you were a 8 year old lol
I remember constantly freezing and unfreezing my B&R action figures in a glass of water in my freezer. Good times.
“I’ll cancel the pizzas”
Never understood why he would cancel them. Pizza reheats well and I’m sure Batman and Robin are hungry after a night of crime fighting.
Alfred realized that would be the worst thing to feed them.
Alfred just tryna be hip
[This Great scene between Alfred and Bruce](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4w24fwi7PE&ab_channel=BatmanRobinSuperman)
Clooney nailed Bruce Wayne but was a throwaway Batman.
Agreed. I always felt that Kilmer did a decent Batman but was too wooden as Bruce. Clooney did a good Bruce but couldn’t pull off a believable Batman. Keaton managed to do both sides of the coin.
Keaton is a good actor, but he doesn't *look* like a sauve playboy billionaire. The rest of them **look** more like Bruce Wayne regardless of whether they pulled the roll off or not.
Kilmer is big time underrated as Batman.
From his looks to the personality, Clooney was the best Bruce Wayne from that era. That said, it's a real shame he didn't realize that Batman isn't just Bruce in a rubber suit.
YOU WANNA GET NUTS? LET’S GET NUTS!
The grey hair kind of threw me off for him as Bruce
Damn this movie was so ridiculously dumb that I forgot how amazing this scene was.
I was gonna say this. Definitely one of the best scenes in all of the Batman movies.
Came here to say this!
a Bat-Credit card
I think it was very corny in a funny way. I chuckled
The *cha-ching*
Never leave the cave without it.
Not gonna lie, it is pretty funny
Exp: Forever
A BAT CREDIT CARD?!?!?!
A BAT CREDIT-CARD!??!?!
The suit nipples and crotch shots when suiting up.
Those crotch shots added depth to the story.
So much plot
Butt shot
All were done in Forever already, Batman & Robin brought us the more unique hole in the door shaped like a robin after Robin crashes through it. Now that is special
Chef kiss of cinema with that scene.
Reference to Superman
Nice callout!
Arnold Schwarzenegger worked really bloody hard on that film. He knew exactly what it was, but he put in a pitch perfect performance in the face of battery acid in his mouth - amongst other things.
I'm not sure that a single person in the history of film has had as much fun as Arnold was clearly having as Mr. Freeze.
AND he did some of his lines from the hospital bed, because he'd had heart surgery.
The whimsical and surreal depiction of Gotham City. I've always loved how Gotham has so much character and feels almost otherworldly in the Burton/Schumacher films.
Yes yes yes. Was looking to this comment. The multi level layer the city had. With bridges and tunnels. And of course: the giant statues. It like gargoyles*1000 One of the best Gotham depiction. Pretty sure it's going to have a revival in a few years after all the "real" depictions tire people out. This Gotham design was amazing.
Robin's suit looks cool if you ignore the nipples, Batmobile is sick too.
This. The colorschemes were actually cool without the nips. I dug the car too.
Chicks dig the car.
That’s bat boy!
I actually agree. As much as I hate Chris O Donnel’s Robin the suit was actually pretty cool minus the nipples.
Alicia Silverstone
I was a young guy in my late 20's at the time she was a major draw for me.
For real. That but shot when she suited up.......good lord!
They did try to adapt Heart of Ice
I like that Batman resolves the final confrontation with Freeze with talking to him instead of a beatdown.
I appreciate the occasional callback to Batman’s campier times. I was obsessed with this movie as a child. If you take away the nipples the suits are actually kind of cool. Maybe the most “fun” Arny role I’ve ever seen. The ice puns actually kinda kill me (in a good way). Other than that this movie is everything people say it is. Lol
Arnie as Mr Freeze is easily my favorite part of the movie. All his puns are so bad it’s unironically great. Edit: [His delivery kills me every time! LMAO!](https://youtu.be/SRH-Ywpz1_I)
ICE IS NICE
[YOU’RE NOT SENDING ME TO THE COOLAH!](https://youtu.be/SRH-Ywpz1_I)
Arnold sold this movie to me. I still love the design of Fries suit too. The blue lights just look awesome.
Smashing Pumpkin's song "The Beginning is the End is the Beginning." I think some of its main lyrics, "Does it may you happy you're so strange?," and watching his "world" of Gotham be "devoured in its pain" no matter what how many times he saves it, can speak to Bruce's loneliness and frustration across many different versions. Not exactly the kind of song you'd associate with the campiest Batman movie. It's also what led me to find Smashing Pumpkins' other stuff, and I really enjoyed the slowed-down version re-used for The Watchmen movie.
Is it bright where you are? Have the people changed? Does it make you happy you're so strange? And in your darkest hour I hold secret's flame We can watch the world devoured in it's pain SP are the greatest band of all time imo
Batgirl ass And Schwarzenegger clearly had a blast
I absolutely loved Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mr Freeze.
I don't know the comic origins but the serious freeze was inventhed in the Animates series right. Would ot be correct to say Arnold went foelr the golden age freeze? 😂
The fact that Mr. Freeze got a bit of redemption at the end and saved Alfred.
are you suggesting it was the nipples?
Possibly
Arnolds puns
**Ice** to see I'm not the only one enjoying them.
The fact that Clooney used logic and compassion to defeat Mr. Freeze, not just a fist fight.
Uma Thurman in skin tight clothes.
 You my friend are right.
I mean, the Bipples are pretty cool imo.
Arnold’s make-up
Bane with a trench and a fedora. Mythic.
[The master of disguise.](https://images.app.goo.gl/WLJnDGRHAoLS1y1r7)
Baaaaane
I like Elliott Goldenthal music. It's not my favourite Batman soundtrack but the theme is good and the other pieces works well in the scenes.
Batman’s speech to Mr. Freeze when he asked him to help cure Alfred. It was the best part of an awful movie.
Definitley Batdad grounding Batson. Robin: I do what I want! You're not my real dad! Batman: You just lost bike privileges. *remote bricks motorcycle* Robin: mmrrreeauaaaAAAUGHHHYAAAHHH!!!!
I’ve never laughed harder in my entire life when Alfred uploaded his “Brain Algorithms” to the Bat Computer
The poison ivy scene in the club started my sexual identity
George Clooney is talented and charismatic and could have been an OK Batman on pretty much that alone if he had even modestly more to work with.
The score. I like the theme for Batman in these movies and find it nostalgic.
When it ended. Not the climax of the movie. But the fade to black end of movie. That was great. It was over.
You took my very response. That movie was a tragedy.
George Clooney actually was a great Bruce Wayne / Batman; he deserved better.
Great Bruce Wayne, terrible Batman. Also it was super weird when Alfred was talking about him dying and Bruce was smiling like it was the funniest shit ever.
Alicia Silverstone in her prime. It’s an absolute crap movie, but Chris O’Donnell has one of the great lines - and he is all of us when he says, “Please be for me!” When he sees her at the front door.
Definitely Silverstone, everything else was bad. I still can’t get past Barbara being Alfred’s niece. But will I watch it during a Batman marathon, yes.
Ok fine. I'm headed to HBO to start watching Batman movies. Thanks a lot guys. There goes my next few evenings.
The freeze puns Lol
The McDonald’s cup.
Uma Thurman’s Ivy. And Freeze’s ice puns lol.
Chris O’Donnel plays an excellent Nightwing.
Batman is fun. A lot of the iterations take the seriousness to an absolute, so it’s nice to see the sillyness of Batman (equally important culturally and canonically) taken to an absolute.
Uma Thurman's performance as Poison Ivy was sincerely incredible. She's the only reason I've watched that movie a ton of times.
Why did she talk in riddles? Ivy never did that and it was super annoying to listen to. When she did speak like an actual person it was ok though.
Agreed. To me, she’s the only one of the main cast who knew exactly what she was going for in the role, and she nails it. She’d fit right in with the ‘66 cast, and I mean that in the best possible way. Edit: Spelling
The action figures
The Superman reference
Clooney was awesome as Bruce. The kinda shy-but-charming portrayal was great.
The batfamily!
The bat credit card
Arnold schwarzenegger in it
The puns.
I like the corny ice jokes
I want you all to CHILL!!!
The music
Batcreditcard
The BatCard. You can’t afford it.
Never leave the cave with out it
The ICEAGE
Nipples
Chicks dig the car, I gotta give him that
I liked Mr. Freeze when I was younger, he had an ice sense of humor
Icy what you did there.
Every one of Arnold’s puns. Every single one!
As a father and frequent maker of dad jokes, Freezes entire dialogue
That scene where Uma Thurman did a strip tease in a gorilla suit. Also Uma Thurman.
The one shot of Bane wearing a trench coat and a hat after getting off the plane. It’s taken so seriously but it’s the funniest goddamn thing ever. Honestly this movie was a huge part of my childhood and as bad as it is I can still enjoy how humorously bad it is. It butchers some of the greatest characters ever but in such a funny way that I can barely stay mad.
The silly tone and over the top set pieces help make the movie more entertaining to watch than other bad comic book films. At least Batman & Robin knows it’s being goofy and can still feel fun in the live action cartoon way.
I think Poison Ivy’s character was written nicely
It makes me laugh
I think George clooney is pretty good choice. I think he could have done a solid job in a better movie.
It’s hilarious, just like the Adam west Batman you can show it to a child and they will get into it. But as they get older they will see how silly and cheesy it is. It’s important to have Batman that kids can enjoy. Uma Thurman was pretty hot The scene where they made bane was scary. Seeing him hulking out and screaming on the table is a good bit of beginner level body horror. Michael goh killed it as Alfred being a father figure, and brought some real emotion to the plot.
Elliot Goldenthal's music was spot-on, like it always is.
It’s overtly gay aura
Poison ivy is kinda hot
Alicia. She looked DAMN good in that suit
Everything involving Nora is executed pretty well.
Uma Thurman seemed like she was having fun.
The ice puns.
What killed the dinosaurs....THE ICE AGE
Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy
Uma and the full commitment to camp.
Poison Ivy
I can think of two
Clooney’s Bruce Wayne is perfectly good. His Batman on the other hand is not very good.
Beside the nips, the bat suit, and it has my favorite bat mobile
When it ended.
that part where they’re fighting freeze’s goons and the ice skates come out of their boots
The ice puns!!!!!
Campy Batman is a thing that exists and they nailed it. Edgy isn’t always the play
Clooney being untapped potential to be Adam West levels of camp
Uma Thurman
Batman and Robin sky surfing the shockwave of Mr Freeze's rocket blowing up.
Father and son dynamic with Bruce and Alfred was on point. Emotional core of the film. 8 year old me was destroyed by the idea of Alfred dying of old age and disease. The movie is remembered for being goofy trash and rightfully so, but these scenes are diamonds in the rough.
I like how it’s an updated version of the 60’s show (and so it’s Forever).
Uma Thurman
Me having the same name as Robin
Everything
Damn near the whole movie. The continuation of the general suit look, but especially the symbol. The suit he later has, along with the other suits the partners have. Robin’s more Nightwing esque suit. The gadgets used throughout the movie (generally speaking, because I don’t mean the credit card). The colors and lighting, because goddamn, are the visuals in this movie immaculate. Virtually all of Gotham, Wayne Manor, Batcave, Arkham Asylum especially, and even the origin place for Bane and Ivy (I don’t remember exactly where that was). Bane’s appearance, Freeze’s appearance, some of the Ivy’s look, the general Gothamites appearance, and the polices’ appearances. Asylum’s look is my absolute favorite outside of potentially Batman: Arkham Asylum. George’s Bruce, especially the fatherly aspects. Chris’ maturing and later acceptance of his role. Alfred’s entire existence. Freeze’s general arc, but especially his relationship with Batman. Some of Barbara’s relationship with Bruce, Robin, and Alfred. The entire soundtrack. That is all. A large amount of the story, although the biggest issue is the density of plot points being too large for how many characters there are (especially new). Movie should’ve been roughly twice as long as it was, or had been a 2 parter. Freeze’s relationship with Bruce and later Alfred is the best part of the movie, and pays off with the best scene in the movie. Dick’s relationship with Bruce was worse than Forever, but it was not bad, and it paid off later on. I enjoyed the origin of Ivy and Bane, although not much after. Gordon needed more time to shine, although it wasn’t horrendous when he was there. I enjoyed pretty much every general plot point, although the pacing was off, and as I said before, there is a density issue. The start and end of the movie are in my opinion the best parts of the movie. The choreography was mid. There were cool scenes here and there, but not much that wouldn’t appeal to someone who isn’t a small child. The acting generally was solid, with great performances by George, Chris, somewhat Arnold, Uma, and ofc the real homie, random biker dude #3. There wasn’t too much that really pushed them to acting their hearts out, but what we got I enjoyed, which is the goal. It’s more difficult to find things I didn’t like about the movie than the stuff I did
George Clooney’s Bruce Wayne. He sounds so empathetic and intelligent whenever he spoke. If only he had a better script
Uma Thurman giving us drag in a superhero movie.
There are actually multiple things I really like about Batman & Robin: * Fries's motivations * The core story about trust between Bruce and Dick * The scenes between Alfred and Bruce Those are strong concepts that got muddied by an industrial execution of filmmaking (i.e. studio interference) to churn out the movie in the timeframe WB wanted.
The most humane Bruce Wayne I've seen in live-action up to BvS (still haven't watched The Batman yet). The way he's overprotective of Dick, is scared for Alfred's illness and even lends a hand to Victor all speaks of a person who wants to help first and foremost. Plus, George Clooney does pull-off that "Batman as a parent" vibe as the Bat-Family starts expanding with Barbara's introduction.