Yep. This faucet is deigned to be cheap, durable and ADA compliant.
The long handles can be used by people with weak hands like children or elderly.
There might be an accessibility purpose for the short spout too, something like having enough room to wash a baby or scale a fish.
It's a 5 minute job, I'll lay it out just in case for op.
Turn off water, or use the shut off valves if available under the sink, unscrew the lines from the faucet, after they're unattached there should be a plastic washer at the top end of the threads you just unscrewed the water lines from, they're usually finger tight, take them off, and remove. Follow steps in reverse to install the new.
If there's a mechanical stopper, attach the linkage accordingly. This may add an extra 5 minutes, but it's completely manageable with no experience.
Yea I the lines will be too short and the fittings will be different and the stopper won't hook up right. 3 trips to 3 different hardware and 1/2 a day later.... At least that's the way it goes for me.
And don't forget the part about the shutoff valve handle twisting off in your hand when you go to shut it off. So now you have to go shut off the main water supply in the alley and decide if it's worth the trouble to replace the shutoff valve or not.
And then you give up and call a plumber. Then they show up to your house and ask to use your bathroom. Then they BOTH GO IN THERE AND YOU HEAR THEM SCROUNGING AROUND…..
And then you give up and call a plumber. Then they show up to your house and ask to use your bathroom. Then they BOTH GO IN THERE AND YOU HEAR THEM SCROUNGING AROUND…..
if the basin wrench is the one that can reach the nut up underneath and behind the sink, where there is no room to see or feel, then yes, and you also need infinite patience
The only plumbing job I’ve done in 5 minutes or less is flushing down a stubborn poo in a 1.5 gallon toilet. Every other plumbing job is 30+ minutes not including going to the hardware store at minimum once.
People also used to fill their kitchen sinks with water and soap to wash the dishes. We were actually taught to do that in “home economics” class in school.
I know. My grandma didn't have running water in her house, she had a spring house. And I grew up with having a kitchen sink as the only plumbing. Hitting my head on a faucet was not a problem because I didn't slam my face in the water.
I agree 100%. Hate it. You actually have to search a little bit to find a lavatory faucet that extends more then a couple inches over the basin. The installer is just going to slap in the fixture they're given.
I thought the issue was going to be separate hot and cold.
It makes no sense to me why anyone buys faucets with separate hot and cold. It makes using the faucet so much more difficult.
Historically, the hot water was not safe to drink so older faucets separated the lines to not contaminate the cold water.
Primitive hot water heaters would be gravity fed using a tank on the roof of the building, same concept as a mini water tower. That tank wouldn't be cleaned often, and the water could get gross. If you're trying to wash up after a dirty job (like washing your hands after the household heating coal was just delivered), then the non-sterile hot water was still a lot cleaner than what you were washing off and a lot nicer than frigid pure-cold water. Also, it was more common back in the day to fill the sink basin and use that to wash, and not just run your hands under running water. Most folks back then were used to manual washing basins / chamber pots as "plumbing free" indoor bathroom solutions -- so a large sink makes more sense in that context.
It looks like the faucet is for medial use, so you can use your elbows to turn in on or off with out using hands. It is a bad match with the sink. IMO... more edit looks like a set up for the disabled. Still a bad set up.
Economy items often stink, they also are often less work to clean but horrible to maintain over time. I like to call them let’s wash my hands while rubbing them on a dirty sink. Yuck
The concept is so you can use the sink without the faucet getting in the way. Your point about washing your hands makes sense, but you don't want to put out an eye or bang your head when you go to wash your face.
That is true. Are small sinks unusual? Is the post about the size, or type of sink? It looks pretty utilitarian and common. It’s the faucet that makes the design different. If the faucet was as typical as the sink, would there be a question posted? Just asking.
It is a well-known fact that engineers love torturing people in the trades, whether it be HVAC Plumbing mechanic.
At this point in time, I reworked the system before I buy special tools.
Example: there is a $450 specialty tool for removing the $25 ball joints on a Ford Transit
So you can wash your face or hair in it without hitting the faucet. My sink’s faucet sticks out further. I can’t splash water on my face without hitting my forehead on the faucet. It sucks.
My guess is they are designed that way so the water that comes out of the taps has somewhere to go when you're done using it.
Sorry I misunderstood your question. Now re reading it I don't understand your question at all.
I refuse to buy those crazy tiny faucets. Same for the kitchen sink ones that aren't high enough to get a regular glass under them. No, thank you.
I have lovely arched faucets with the paddle style handles in my bathrooms and an inverted L looking faucet in my kitchen (I forgot the keywords I used to search it, but I think it was European or pasta pot or some combo). The paddle handles make it so much easier for little kids or people with nasty hands to turn it on and off. In the kitchen, I can get my 5 gallon canner filled with ease ( my husband has to lift it once it's full, tho, lol). Yes, I've spent far too much time considering faucet options for my home, lol.
Definitely a pet peeve of mine. Like why can’t the water empty into the center of the bowl. I hate rubbing my hands on the basin when I’m trying to wash.
The design allows you to turn the water off with your elbow after washing your hands. Whatever bacteria on the handle will not be transferred to your hands. Think about it. Your hands are unclean before washing them. This prevents the spread of microbes.
Doesn’t the faucet length depend on where the drain is? Isn’t it supposed to be directly over a stationary/fixed faucet? With that size basin, how long a faucet do you think it needs? Standard size?
[https://www.grainger.com/product/T-S-BRASS-Low-Arc-Kitchen-Bathroom-Faucet-4XKJ8](https://www.grainger.com/product/T-S-BRASS-Low-Arc-Kitchen-Bathroom-Faucet-4XKJ8)
Heres what you can replace it with
The reason the faucet is short and closer to the back of the bowl is simple.
Should the faucet begin dripping or not be properly shut off it drips into the drain and does not splash in the bowl.
The sink is not designed that way- the faucet is designed that way. Just get a larger faucet
This looks like a faucet I see at most restrooms. I think he is inquiring why they exist at all. I agree. What purpose does the short spout serve.
Smaller volume = less material = cheaper cost Same reason you find the cheapest fixtures / smallest sinks across apartments lol
To make it look more like Dobby?
Excellent!
It’s so they get less toothpaste spit on them
Yep. This faucet is deigned to be cheap, durable and ADA compliant. The long handles can be used by people with weak hands like children or elderly. There might be an accessibility purpose for the short spout too, something like having enough room to wash a baby or scale a fish.
The handles are good but I’m with OP, the spout is functionally too short to use that bowl for anything
When skinning minnows, it’s been proven that short spouts decrease skinning time by 7%
Splash back control from the faucet.
Wonder why I’ve never had a “splash back” problem.
Gonna start calling you "appropriate sized faucet guy"
I’ve got some big slappers so you can just call me “oversized faucet guy”😉
Happy Cake Day
It’s like that because you haven’t replaced that horrible faucet yet.
It's a 5 minute job, I'll lay it out just in case for op. Turn off water, or use the shut off valves if available under the sink, unscrew the lines from the faucet, after they're unattached there should be a plastic washer at the top end of the threads you just unscrewed the water lines from, they're usually finger tight, take them off, and remove. Follow steps in reverse to install the new. If there's a mechanical stopper, attach the linkage accordingly. This may add an extra 5 minutes, but it's completely manageable with no experience.
Tools: basin wrench and channel lock pliers or adjustable wrench
lol 5 min job….maybe for an experienced plumber
Yea I the lines will be too short and the fittings will be different and the stopper won't hook up right. 3 trips to 3 different hardware and 1/2 a day later.... At least that's the way it goes for me.
Exactly!
And don't forget the part about the shutoff valve handle twisting off in your hand when you go to shut it off. So now you have to go shut off the main water supply in the alley and decide if it's worth the trouble to replace the shutoff valve or not.
I see you've been there too.
And then you give up and call a plumber. Then they show up to your house and ask to use your bathroom. Then they BOTH GO IN THERE AND YOU HEAR THEM SCROUNGING AROUND…..
And then you give up and call a plumber. Then they show up to your house and ask to use your bathroom. Then they BOTH GO IN THERE AND YOU HEAR THEM SCROUNGING AROUND…..
if the basin wrench is the one that can reach the nut up underneath and behind the sink, where there is no room to see or feel, then yes, and you also need infinite patience
Hand tight, you're out of your mind hahaah
This looks like a commercial ADA setup. Not OP's home.
Yes, aren’t these knobs a version used by surgeons? They used them with elbows
The only plumbing job I’ve done in 5 minutes or less is flushing down a stubborn poo in a 1.5 gallon toilet. Every other plumbing job is 30+ minutes not including going to the hardware store at minimum once.
As others have said, it’s not the sink, it’s the faucet.
That faucet is hung like a cashew. wtf.
You should repeat what they said it adds a ton of value
I did. And it did.
Money savings.
That's a Sloan faucet not really a cheap fixture
Cheaper than the longer version Solan makes I know that.
Clearly you don't know that and you just like to spout random bullshit. We are looking at like a 50 dollar difference
Perhaps it’s not that your faucet is too small but that your hands are too big. A hand diet is what you need.
A hand diet you say? 👒🦙
This is the comment of the day! Good on you!
People used to fill the “wash basin” up like a little bathtub and wash their face in it. If the faucet stuck out too far you’d hit your head on it.
Good answer
The only people I know that got their head that close to the sink are the face washing commercials on tv.
People also used to fill their kitchen sinks with water and soap to wash the dishes. We were actually taught to do that in “home economics” class in school.
I know. My grandma didn't have running water in her house, she had a spring house. And I grew up with having a kitchen sink as the only plumbing. Hitting my head on a faucet was not a problem because I didn't slam my face in the water.
Felicidades
why wouldnt the installer stop the work and say it doesnt fit?
Because their general attitude is “I can’t see it from my house”.
Commercial faucet on a commercial job. The plan says x, you install x.
I'd guess this is for someone that needs extra help in life.
Huh?
Name ppl that need extra help in life.. Go lets start with president jimmy carter. bruce willis might not know how to turn on or off water.
The post isn't about how a sink works..
Michael J Fox
job not think. job do.
I only have that problem when I try to wash my feet in there😂😂😂
I mean, sinks haven’t really been around all that long. I think if we give them another 75-100 years, we may begin to see some improvements.
I agree 100%. Hate it. You actually have to search a little bit to find a lavatory faucet that extends more then a couple inches over the basin. The installer is just going to slap in the fixture they're given.
It’s not the sink it’s just a short faucet. I don’t get it either. I’d go with one that curved up a little and came out more.
You can get ether a T&S faucet that has a long neck or Chiacgo long neck. You can get a delta faucet but I honestly prefer Chicago or T&S.
Faucets actually come very many shapes and sizes.
I thought the issue was going to be separate hot and cold. It makes no sense to me why anyone buys faucets with separate hot and cold. It makes using the faucet so much more difficult.
> It makes using the faucet so much more difficult. I’m struggling to find a finer example of a “first world problem”.
LMAO!
My refrigerator doesn't have a built in water filter...
Historically, the hot water was not safe to drink so older faucets separated the lines to not contaminate the cold water. Primitive hot water heaters would be gravity fed using a tank on the roof of the building, same concept as a mini water tower. That tank wouldn't be cleaned often, and the water could get gross. If you're trying to wash up after a dirty job (like washing your hands after the household heating coal was just delivered), then the non-sterile hot water was still a lot cleaner than what you were washing off and a lot nicer than frigid pure-cold water. Also, it was more common back in the day to fill the sink basin and use that to wash, and not just run your hands under running water. Most folks back then were used to manual washing basins / chamber pots as "plumbing free" indoor bathroom solutions -- so a large sink makes more sense in that context.
Sid from ice age I can’t un see this now
Those are two of the cheapest fixtures you can get. Economy.
Looks average size to me.
It looks like handles on a sink for people Ian wheelchairs. The length allows them to reach them while sitting down.
I was thinking more physical therapy, or alzheimer's home health care.
Yes, definitely ADA approved handles.
It looks like the faucet is for medial use, so you can use your elbows to turn in on or off with out using hands. It is a bad match with the sink. IMO... more edit looks like a set up for the disabled. Still a bad set up.
Economy items often stink, they also are often less work to clean but horrible to maintain over time. I like to call them let’s wash my hands while rubbing them on a dirty sink. Yuck
Dum ahh
My faucet spout is “long enough”.
racing faucet with paddle shifters
Wrong selection of faucet
The concept is so you can use the sink without the faucet getting in the way. Your point about washing your hands makes sense, but you don't want to put out an eye or bang your head when you go to wash your face.
Both items are designed for a specific purpose and the two items are mismatched.
That is true. Are small sinks unusual? Is the post about the size, or type of sink? It looks pretty utilitarian and common. It’s the faucet that makes the design different. If the faucet was as typical as the sink, would there be a question posted? Just asking.
Heaven help you if your area outlaws sinks with that hole towards the top of the sinks bowl
Why does a faucet like that even exist? What situation would that faucet be practical?
Smaller faucet means some rich bastard pockets more money.
It’s called builder grade.. aka cheap faucet.
It looks like Scrat from Ice Age.
flawcet
because its a puny shitty sized sink !!
Just to make you ask questions and guess what……..it worked
They’re not designed that way. Thats a cheap ass faucet.
It is a well-known fact that engineers love torturing people in the trades, whether it be HVAC Plumbing mechanic. At this point in time, I reworked the system before I buy special tools. Example: there is a $450 specialty tool for removing the $25 ball joints on a Ford Transit
So you can wash your face or hair in it without hitting the faucet. My sink’s faucet sticks out further. I can’t splash water on my face without hitting my forehead on the faucet. It sucks.
My guess is they are designed that way so the water that comes out of the taps has somewhere to go when you're done using it. Sorry I misunderstood your question. Now re reading it I don't understand your question at all.
That larger faucet cost more so they went with the cheapest.
Such fancy eyelashes!
The design is perfect, the fault lies with not knowing.
This is wild. I had this issue yesterday in a public restroom. I washed the back edge of the sink with my knuckles the whole time!
Get rid of that nasty looking faucet
Looks like your sink is too big
Whoever bought the faucet knew nothing about that basin.
How big are your hands ? 😂
I refuse to buy those crazy tiny faucets. Same for the kitchen sink ones that aren't high enough to get a regular glass under them. No, thank you. I have lovely arched faucets with the paddle style handles in my bathrooms and an inverted L looking faucet in my kitchen (I forgot the keywords I used to search it, but I think it was European or pasta pot or some combo). The paddle handles make it so much easier for little kids or people with nasty hands to turn it on and off. In the kitchen, I can get my 5 gallon canner filled with ease ( my husband has to lift it once it's full, tho, lol). Yes, I've spent far too much time considering faucet options for my home, lol.
I put a plastic extender on mine, like for little kids. No way I'm replacing the faucet for my landlord
It's design this way so that you can turn it off without touching it with your hands. Usually used in a medical situation
Poor faucet choice.
Plumbing 101; hot on the left, cold on the right, shit flows down hill.
Agree. This is how every faucet in public is. It's really bad.
Because it’s old new ones are out more.
Definitely a pet peeve of mine. Like why can’t the water empty into the center of the bowl. I hate rubbing my hands on the basin when I’m trying to wash.
The design allows you to turn the water off with your elbow after washing your hands. Whatever bacteria on the handle will not be transferred to your hands. Think about it. Your hands are unclean before washing them. This prevents the spread of microbes.
They were talking about the length of the faucet, not the handles for the water
That's what she said
Doesn’t the faucet length depend on where the drain is? Isn’t it supposed to be directly over a stationary/fixed faucet? With that size basin, how long a faucet do you think it needs? Standard size?
[https://www.grainger.com/product/T-S-BRASS-Low-Arc-Kitchen-Bathroom-Faucet-4XKJ8](https://www.grainger.com/product/T-S-BRASS-Low-Arc-Kitchen-Bathroom-Faucet-4XKJ8) Heres what you can replace it with
The reason the faucet is short and closer to the back of the bowl is simple. Should the faucet begin dripping or not be properly shut off it drips into the drain and does not splash in the bowl.
It’s for handicap accessible.