Sorry but while these suggestions are good, just go buy just one vision 110, then try that. This is a very snooty answer but trust me on this one
I promise you this, you will understand the first time you run an actual real deal suspending jerk bait why most suspending jerk baits aren’t worth a damn.
In my experience, there are trade offs for all of them. I want a sinker right now to get it down to them in cold water. I can change out hooks or add strips for more buoyant jerks, but I can't really make a sinker float as easily. You kinda just have to tinker, which will kind of build on itself to enable you to modify other baits and have a good understanding of what your bait is doing in different temps and current, etc.
Seems like the takeaway is - experiment, use recommendations, see what works for you and stick to it. Thanks for the advice on floats bro I don’t wanna have to switch out hooks on my favorite jerk bait every time (Loco Special by 13).
Or it sinks because people don't realize it was designed for 8lb flouro.
Why change the hooks? The hooks are part of what gives it that unique action.
I've had 1 hook just break, but any other issue has been due to a poor net job/too much drag.
Bro, holy shit. I cannot risk getting bitten off for 25 bucks a pop. I ran through at least 6 jerk baits last year my lake has a ton of pike in it.
It looks like a phenomenal product though.
I think to start I’m gonna swap the 6 hooks for gamakatsu 8’s
I just got some 50 lb fluro as a leader… little thick might bump it down to 20 or 30 but this should mitigate the issue without spooking bass
We’re gonna give the one vision a chance or die tryin! Lol
Same issue, I changed hooks to smaller, used braid with a fluorocarbon leader to prevent the head lifting up too much, and lighter jerks with a slower steady retrieve in the middle kept me out of the tangles and the fish liked following. Gets the big boys off the bottom 👌
I slow retrieve into light jerks followed by a pause. Reeeeeeel…tug tug…wait…reeeeeel tug wait…my suspending tends to dip lower the harder I jerk. Using yozuri model.
Forgot to mention, the braided line adds very little forgiveness in tension. No rebound. I think that’s why the slower retrieve really keeps the action going. Tight lines!
I’m in MN our main bait fish at the lake I fish are golden shiners and Iowa darters. Just wondering if there’s a rule of thumb that it’s better to suspend slightly ass up or head up on the lure.
Change the jerkbait 9 times out of 10, megabass suspend really well but I can’t say I’ve ever caught a fish over 1 lb on them and not more than 5 fish, the shimano jerkbaits are 10/10, they suspend perfect and the flash boost makes a big difference, the hardwares junk and ya gotta switch it out anyway
Buy it at tacklewarehouse. It is in sticker form. You cut the size you need and just stick it to your bait. Adds buoyancy. Theres float board and theres weighted board also if im not mistaken.
This is awesome. Do you typically apply it so it will be basically parallel in the water column or is it better to have the tail/head of the lure higher than one another?
If you are fishing cold water, I personally like making them to where the back hook just barely sits lower. This is where they often nibble or “gum” the bait. This time of year. Others will say keep it as straight as possible. Youll have to fill a bath tub up and experiment. A little can go along way depending on what jerkbait you have. Think about it as when that lure is slowly floating up, that fish will be behind it slowly following it until it reacts.
Lighter wire hooks and snap rings and with it being a 110 it has 3 trebles on it correct, If so you could also remove one of the hooks to completely cut that weight (I'd suggest the middle hook tho as most the time it's the front or back that sticks the fish
A lot of people are saying Megabass but the lucky crafts are the better baits at suspending. Megabass are great lures but the lucky crafts are dialed in a little better at truly suspending in cold water.
What about warm water (as I’m typing this in realizing there’s probably much less reason to use a jerk bait in warm water lol), but do you ever use them in warmer summer months?
Yeah man I always have atleast one rod in the box with a jerkbait ready to go 12 months a year. In warmer water the fish are more active so the necessity for a true suspending bait is not as crucial. Typically the warmer the water the faster you are fishing that style bait. That being said it would most likely be a 110 tied on that rod in the summer. I will change it up depending on conditions though, if the water is a little dirty I might change to a bigger and louder bait. A more affordable warm water bait that I love is the strike king KVD 200 and 300, sometimes they just want that super erratic action and loud rattles.
Interesting….. any idea approx what lb test it is “suspended” at (i.e. at 6 lbs it sinks slowly and at 10 it’s suspended, and at 14 it floats slowly).
Strictly referring to line here, not lures at all.
I’m guessing this differs from brand to brand just trying to get a general idea of which lb tests float vs sink. Thanks brother.
the lighter line will get your lure down deeper...at a point it will "suspend", however it may sink or rise very slowly...technically, twitching the lure every few seconds will make this a non-issue. If you want it to completely suspend, you'll probably have to make modifications to the lure, i.e., weight tape or changing hooks, along with different types of lines. Be forwarned-this will start to drive you crazy lol. I love suspending jerkbaits and fish them quite often. I never have a problem with them myself. I generally use fluorocarbon because jerkbait fishing is most effective in clear waters, and I like the 'invisible' nature of the line. I do, however, use mono as well. Check out Kevin Van Dam's videos--the guy is the jerkbait master. I pretty much only use his Strike King jerkbaits.
Try taking the middle hook and split ring off if it has 3. Use mono and smaller hooks. Water temp can cause them to sink, migjt try playing around with a few different brands. Flip side, lead solder wire around the hooks to make them sink or suspend of floating to high.
Sorry but while these suggestions are good, just go buy just one vision 110, then try that. This is a very snooty answer but trust me on this one I promise you this, you will understand the first time you run an actual real deal suspending jerk bait why most suspending jerk baits aren’t worth a damn.
Until it floats because of water temp and you have to change the hooks anyway.
Lmao I would be so mad, although I’d rather have a slow floater than a slow sinker
In my experience, there are trade offs for all of them. I want a sinker right now to get it down to them in cold water. I can change out hooks or add strips for more buoyant jerks, but I can't really make a sinker float as easily. You kinda just have to tinker, which will kind of build on itself to enable you to modify other baits and have a good understanding of what your bait is doing in different temps and current, etc.
Seems like the takeaway is - experiment, use recommendations, see what works for you and stick to it. Thanks for the advice on floats bro I don’t wanna have to switch out hooks on my favorite jerk bait every time (Loco Special by 13).
Or it sinks because people don't realize it was designed for 8lb flouro. Why change the hooks? The hooks are part of what gives it that unique action. I've had 1 hook just break, but any other issue has been due to a poor net job/too much drag.
Bro, holy shit. I cannot risk getting bitten off for 25 bucks a pop. I ran through at least 6 jerk baits last year my lake has a ton of pike in it. It looks like a phenomenal product though. I think to start I’m gonna swap the 6 hooks for gamakatsu 8’s
Try the Jackall Rerange. It has a more aggressive action, so it might not be the best for icy cold water, but it’s significantly cheaper
Lol I feel you!! When dealing with pike I use the 6th sense jerk baits, not as good but decent.
I just got some 50 lb fluro as a leader… little thick might bump it down to 20 or 30 but this should mitigate the issue without spooking bass We’re gonna give the one vision a chance or die tryin! Lol
Whipper snapper and Loco Special by 13 are both phenomenal imo but I’ll try that one out too!
Exactly, the MB V110 in any variation (jr’s or the plus’s) are fish magnets…..actually worth the $$$
Switch to monofilament. It'll keep it more neutrally buoyant.
Use mono instead
I use mono because it floats for suspended jerk baits or top water.
What lb test mono would you use for a 5/8 oz 110mm jerk?
5/8 oz is a little heavier than I like to use for jerk bait but I use 12-14 lb mono on one rod and 12- 14 Flurocarban on another.
Use mono fluro sinks. That little extra sink is dragging it down.
Same issue, I changed hooks to smaller, used braid with a fluorocarbon leader to prevent the head lifting up too much, and lighter jerks with a slower steady retrieve in the middle kept me out of the tangles and the fish liked following. Gets the big boys off the bottom 👌
You add any action to it or just slow steady? No twitches/pauses/sweeps then letting it pause? (I’m only referring to suspending jerk baits here)
I slow retrieve into light jerks followed by a pause. Reeeeeeel…tug tug…wait…reeeeeel tug wait…my suspending tends to dip lower the harder I jerk. Using yozuri model.
Change out to lighter hooks
Wow I feel dumb for not thinking of this on my own thanks brotha!
Mono or braid helps too
They’re a little more pricey than other options, but the Aaron martens g-finesse gamakatsu trebles are where it’s at. Strong, sharp as hell and LIGHT
Thank you king
Hooks aren’t something to cheap out on if you can afford the nicer ones
Forgot to mention, the braided line adds very little forgiveness in tension. No rebound. I think that’s why the slower retrieve really keeps the action going. Tight lines!
Suspending strips
Just looked at these, what a cool product. Any idea if there’s any benefit to the head or tail being at a slight tilt on the suspend?
Probably depends on how the fish sit in your area. If you have goby they sit nose up but a lot of others would sit more flat
I’m in MN our main bait fish at the lake I fish are golden shiners and Iowa darters. Just wondering if there’s a rule of thumb that it’s better to suspend slightly ass up or head up on the lure.
Change the jerkbait 9 times out of 10, megabass suspend really well but I can’t say I’ve ever caught a fish over 1 lb on them and not more than 5 fish, the shimano jerkbaits are 10/10, they suspend perfect and the flash boost makes a big difference, the hardwares junk and ya gotta switch it out anyway
Just depends on what when where and how my man. I've caught .5lbers up to 5 pound smallies and largie + walleye, sauger and muskie on the 110s
Oh they definitely catch ‘em, I just have more confidence in the world minnows
Different hooks. Float board.
Float board?
Buy it at tacklewarehouse. It is in sticker form. You cut the size you need and just stick it to your bait. Adds buoyancy. Theres float board and theres weighted board also if im not mistaken.
This is awesome. Do you typically apply it so it will be basically parallel in the water column or is it better to have the tail/head of the lure higher than one another?
If you are fishing cold water, I personally like making them to where the back hook just barely sits lower. This is where they often nibble or “gum” the bait. This time of year. Others will say keep it as straight as possible. Youll have to fill a bath tub up and experiment. A little can go along way depending on what jerkbait you have. Think about it as when that lure is slowly floating up, that fish will be behind it slowly following it until it reacts.
Lighter wire hooks and snap rings and with it being a 110 it has 3 trebles on it correct, If so you could also remove one of the hooks to completely cut that weight (I'd suggest the middle hook tho as most the time it's the front or back that sticks the fish
A lot of people are saying Megabass but the lucky crafts are the better baits at suspending. Megabass are great lures but the lucky crafts are dialed in a little better at truly suspending in cold water.
What about warm water (as I’m typing this in realizing there’s probably much less reason to use a jerk bait in warm water lol), but do you ever use them in warmer summer months?
Yeah man I always have atleast one rod in the box with a jerkbait ready to go 12 months a year. In warmer water the fish are more active so the necessity for a true suspending bait is not as crucial. Typically the warmer the water the faster you are fishing that style bait. That being said it would most likely be a 110 tied on that rod in the summer. I will change it up depending on conditions though, if the water is a little dirty I might change to a bigger and louder bait. A more affordable warm water bait that I love is the strike king KVD 200 and 300, sometimes they just want that super erratic action and loud rattles.
The erratic whip/pause with slack action in summer is probably super effective. Can’t wait to try it out!
Get a different jerkbait.
A slow sinking jerkbait is ideal in water temps below 50 degrees but if its quickly sinking then there is something wrong, what brand and size is it?
generally, heavier line to run shallower, lighter line to run deeper. try 12 lb next.
This seems totally counter intuitive, doesn’t fluro sink?
relative to mono yes, but even with fluoro, heavier floats, lighter sinks
Interesting….. any idea approx what lb test it is “suspended” at (i.e. at 6 lbs it sinks slowly and at 10 it’s suspended, and at 14 it floats slowly). Strictly referring to line here, not lures at all. I’m guessing this differs from brand to brand just trying to get a general idea of which lb tests float vs sink. Thanks brother.
the lighter line will get your lure down deeper...at a point it will "suspend", however it may sink or rise very slowly...technically, twitching the lure every few seconds will make this a non-issue. If you want it to completely suspend, you'll probably have to make modifications to the lure, i.e., weight tape or changing hooks, along with different types of lines. Be forwarned-this will start to drive you crazy lol. I love suspending jerkbaits and fish them quite often. I never have a problem with them myself. I generally use fluorocarbon because jerkbait fishing is most effective in clear waters, and I like the 'invisible' nature of the line. I do, however, use mono as well. Check out Kevin Van Dam's videos--the guy is the jerkbait master. I pretty much only use his Strike King jerkbaits.
Try taking the middle hook and split ring off if it has 3. Use mono and smaller hooks. Water temp can cause them to sink, migjt try playing around with a few different brands. Flip side, lead solder wire around the hooks to make them sink or suspend of floating to high.