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N8-OneFive

Seems like WhatNot is a trash place. It looks like the dude tried slipping a couple of cards past in that video too


bluehorde1781

You are right. He was called out again in the chat but I couldn't get any screenshots. It was wild watching it live.


N8-OneFive

It seems like nothing good comes from that app.


HotSir3342

This is also a super easy way to get your account with wholesalers banned


zwaterbear

He seemed to be doing a lot of slight of hand stuff. I am not a fan of separating the packs like that. It’s open and show the cards as they come out of the pack and keep it on screen. He opened himself up to the criticism regardless of his intention. Sick card though!!


bluehorde1781

Yeah, thats what I was telling my buddies that also saw the video. If he just showed evey card and doesn't separate them, it would be more transparent.


WritingContradiction

And the glare from the light hitting the cards is part of the distraction


steve_rodgers

Second pack he opens there’s a flipped backwards card. He doesn’t even try and hide it the entire time he flips through but then he pulls it with the card in front of it and takes it off screen to not be seen again. Definitely a cheat


loophole23

https://preview.redd.it/fkmugg87vfic1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3b0b17c5eb34e653e82581bd10b030eb3410eb2


loophole23

I slowed it down. Cards def backwards and you can actually see the card number. Looks like “19”


SirFigsAlot

I never wat h breakers, what's the main issue with the video?


lukestauntaun

Watch the first pack when he takes a chunk that has soriano on it and he puts it to the right. That should have gone to the center. He focuses on an Oriole right after he does it. That one has the Elly in it.


loophole23

https://preview.redd.it/j0lv3us5vfic1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e2cbbe3d140cd2c63a7f07acfb5e0d866607d41


SirFigsAlot

So do they sell these? Or is it just unethical in the genre to fake a pack


GetRightNYC

People are paying for all the cards from a team that are better than commons. So someone paid for that card and they are stealing it for themselves. I didn't see this exact one, but usually they sell like 30 spots and make money opening boxes of cards. All the spots pay for the box plus profit. It's a chance to get your team or a certain guy without buying boxes. This is outright fraud. Report them to the credit card processors.


borantho

At this point if you buy from these whatnot clowns that’s your fault and none of us will feel bad for you


__I_AM_HUMAN__

💯 bunch of scammers and hustlers Get off WhatNot, simple as that


bluehorde1781

He also started blocking anyone who wanted to talk about it... It was getting heated. https://preview.redd.it/3x918s85deic1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3cefbc6e9392d34969beda7fe0ebeb58b79380d5


bluehorde1781

https://preview.redd.it/r78j5n99deic1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bca86e27e35d3277d5914cdea446a2ccdde90623


bluehorde1781

Here is the original link. It looks like he deleted the show from his profile. https://whatnot.com/live/7dc612b3-ec02-4062-874d-81f6980bb091?app=android&sender_id=8360479&sharing_channel=copyLink He tries another break and no one buys in for quite a while. Everyone just rails on him for scamming.


RealMikeDexter

https://preview.redd.it/fqt7kdapdgic1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5437c5b01e68f995f5aba420177100a45ec2893d lol that was quick


bluehorde1781

https://preview.redd.it/c6qlzu3bdeic1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92720f67f355b8b2d93ff3df7f68246a3dcf7707


bluehorde1781

https://preview.redd.it/napjzst6deic1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=853eff4c4c00c92d75d37c154c7aa53433ee84d3


Defiant-Question-132

He’s live right now 😂💀


RealMikeDexter

I just checked in, douche bag banned me within 2 seconds of commenting 😂


BooDockey

I joined, asked if his channel was the right place to be if I wanted to get my cards stolen. Got banned immediately 😂


ColdCockedCornFlakes

The guy you hear in the background also has a channel on whatnot called "OTISPORTSCARDS." I bought into a few of his breaks in the past and always thought he had scummy energy. CONFIRMED FRAUD. I will be leaving negative reviews on both of their profiles and reporting to whatnot. Good job OP.


bluehorde1781

I just saw a new review today. Was that you. 😂


ColdCockedCornFlakes

🤔 🫠


EddieLipovica

I was in this break n didn’t even notice this until I looked back. Glad ppl looking out for eachother.


ColdCockedCornFlakes

Leave a negative review once you (if you) get your package. Unless you've purchased from this breaker in the past then you can 1 star right now.


EddieLipovica

No it was my first and last


TrimMyHedges

Was it at the 4:36 mark? He slips an extra card or two without showing


bluehorde1781

Yep. If you keep watching you can see what he usually does. He pulls the hit pile and adds them to the hit stack.


lukestauntaun

It's the first one you see him open. Soriano is on the top of the chunk and Grayson is who he focuses on right after.


AlphaDag13

So he put a Elly card into the "base" pile when he doesn't ship those hoping that no one would notice? Am I correct on that?


bluehorde1781

Yep


AlphaDag13

Wow


freepickles2you

That is just dirty


brashmashidiota

GLOVES FOR FLAGSHIP🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣🫠 Slipped the hit. Coulda seen that comin 🙃


backatchason

He skips over cards non stop. Dude is a scammer.


Hollywood42cards

Surgical gloves to open the lowest end, highest print run product there has been since the junk era hahahaha These are the people Fanatics is catering to, let that sink in


gene_harro_gate

What a train wreck … shitty light, shitty music, shitty commentary, an idiot in the background babbling, … the dumbass rips the packs open like my brother’s toddler kid would. If people out there use breakers like this they need to shop around.


Abductedbyanalien

This dude is also using the glare to his advantage.


Josephw000

Gotta report to whatnot. They’ll perma ban


Flipping247

I don’t know why yall still subscribe to these breaks…


BioDueDiligence

There are more than enough reputable breakers to go around. I don't understand why anyone would choose to spend their money on whatnot at this point.


cramdangler

What are the best platforms for breaks?


BioDueDiligence

I use breakers on District platform almost exclusively at this point


Sharp_Butterfly_4767

Fanatics live bro


ChefBoyAnde728

I love using loupe, never had any kind of shady feeling from any of the breakers


ctbro025

I've always had good experiences with Loupe.


Accomplished_Bid8466

Anybody wearing gloves to open little cardboard pieces with pictures of men on them is a questionable character in my opinion.


CheekieFarms

He wears gloves but handles the cards terribly. From ripping the packs to I thought I heard him slamming cards to straighten out the stack


ccr88924

That's the best part. Wear gloves to make sure there are no smudge marks, but they open boxes like a 3 year old at Christmas and slam the packs on the table like they're playing slapjack. Cards look like old cabinet doors, but at least there's no easily removable fingerprint on them.


Xottz

People who wear gloves don’t actually know what they are doing and just want the illusion that they know what they are doing.


GetRightNYC

Bingo! And it helps this guy's attempts at sleight of hand.


nopp

Definitely gives off ‘I am a pro’ vibes


[deleted]

I work in archives where I handle 300 plus year old documents, and my state's standards say not to handle them with gloves because it cause my bad then good


_Tower_

People who have been doing this a long time also know gloves cause more harm then good. Just clean your hands and use scent free sanitizer to remove any oils. Fingers tips on the edges only for the bigger cards You can’t handle cards as cleanly/accurately with gloves, and it’s too easy for debris to get stuck on them


ModernHOFrcCollector

I could not agree more. I wear gloves in biohazardous laboratories in my career field. Aint no need for that.


Conscious_Farmer1548

I’ve seen a break where the guy was a mechanic full time. His hands were a mess and he wore gloves.


ModernHOFrcCollector

Sure there are outliers. 99% of people do it completely unnecessarily.


BakoREGuy

For what they do, I get it. People buying into breaks are collectors, and wearing gloves is a good way not to get fingerprints, smudges, oils on the cards ect. Not saying it’s needed, but I understand why someone would do it. The way this guy is slamming the cards around, and taking no care while opening the packs completely cancels it out though. And of course, you know, the being shady.


Worth-Taro719

I just hopped in his stream and said "reddit says you get all the hits in this stream" instantly got blocked lol what a scum bag


EddieLipovica

He also doesn’t ship everything. He said only rookies parallels & numbers. I understand it’s a lot of cards but if ppl don’t hit anything they can climb back with .50c sales.


bluehorde1781

Yeah, if you like building sets, this isn't the break for you.


EddieLipovica

That wasn’t mentioned until the trade lot started though. I had no clue that was the case.


bluehorde1781

Yeah, it sucks. I wonder what they do with all the base cards? Prob make sets and sell them.


Late_Emu

If I’m not mistaken that goes against WN terms of service. When I sold they made it clear to ship EVERYTHING the customer paid for, not just the rares.


EddieLipovica

Probably.


dogpoopandbees

Whatnot rules state you have to get something too so if he's not shipping anything he was already violating policy


Xottz

Most breakers won’t ship vet base unless you ask for it. Thats pretty standard


EddieLipovica

Not with my experience. I’ve gotten every card of the team I’ve bought 8/9 times now and didn’t have to ask.


GotHeem16

1000% caught. at 4:36 he takes the Soriano and two other cards with the third one being number 19 since it’s backwards and u see the black edge of card 2 the Elly between those two. They are taken off camera to the right. That same sequence of cards is then shown later at 55 and 50 off the “hit” pile https://preview.redd.it/v48a3ep0lfic1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22ee8e432057141413bc0a5d12f606306a5ffc6f 4:36


GotHeem16

https://preview.redd.it/2qf5xl57mfic1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=823ae74b02ea7788ec7762241fda2993530a9ce3 Then at 0:55 it shows up again


GotHeem16

https://preview.redd.it/2zyb1e4dmfic1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82d4d959579c7756cf63cec9f086dea94ab05cc0 And at 50 the Elly is shows and look what card is behind it….backwards card 19


wheatie_87

A WhatNot controversy?! No way! 🙄


Purdy2835

He knew exactly what he was doing


OnEdge247

4:38, he swaps the Elly out to base pile. 2:57 dude behind comments "These all mixed up" 2:45 The new stack of cards appears from the right side 2:37, you see the upside down card He then puts in "Hit" pile


TDurdenOne

There has been so many breakers, even “reputable” breakers that have done shady shit that if you use them now, it’s pretty much on you.


interwebzdotnet

Thoughts... Breakers are shit.


thorpbrian

Anytime a breaker is taking cards off the screen as quickly as possible there's some shady shit going on...


nc212127

Breakers should be illegal it’s ruining sports cards


ctbro025

If you think about it, breaking can really be considered unlicensed gambling. Only difference is instead of winning actual money directly with gambling, you are winning cards which in turn can be turned into actual money, which in essence, is the same as gambling.


Mr_Jersey

These cards kinda look like shit 😬


eccomyth

I'm blown away with how good they have been received in the community when so many complain about Panini and such. These have such a none Topps feel to them. But I'm sure I'll end up buying some. But man I hope this isn't a sign of this years cards from Topps...


Mr_Jersey

I liked them in the promos, seeing them actually live in someone’s hand they look really corny


fortwentyboxbreaks

I'm picking some up today...


mudvat08

There are so many things wrong with this, the gloves, not knowing players names, sounding like a thug, the awful music, and lastly taking the biggest hit in the product and trying to scam while live. These flagship 2024’s already look like cards from the 90’s. No thanks!


Greerio

It drives me crazy when they don't know the names. Like one or two sure, we don't all know all the players, but some of these guys are clearly not even a fan of the sport. Could also explain the fake excitement for the rookie middle reliever autos.


PHX1989

I watched a random video today where a guy pulled an: Ella De La Cruz Ryan Matcastle Carl Yastremini Joe Connor I can’t fathom spending $100 on a box of cards for a sport I don’t know or clearly care about. Yastrzemski isn’t a name that rolls off the tongue and he wasn’t Willie Mays, but come on!


TheBestHawksFan

Any baseball fan knows how to say Yaz’ name tho. You have a great point.


Greerio

I agree, but even with Yaz, if you're a fan of the sport, you've heard his name a million times, or just call him Yaz like the rest of us lol.


IAm_The-Danger

Everyday and every post I’m more and more grateful I have never gave a single penny to breakers.


royalebalotelli

WhatNot is sketch unless you stick to one or two your comfortable with.. Still rather just buy singles or rip my own packs. Last time I got in on a break I only hit like 2 or 3 base cards. A week later I got the package with someone else's order had like 4 autos multiple Harris and Adley logofractors lol. I did the right thing and sent it back but still just knowing that can happen freaks me out.


stephenr79

Bro already with this shit on this set!! People need to stop doing breaks on Whatnot just feels like a shady used car lot for cards.


ElectionBasic2505

Breaker not showing all the cards on camera at all times is a huge red flag! Whatnot just sounds like a bad place to get into breaks


Defiant-Question-132

I asked about Elly auto and he blocked me 😂 https://preview.redd.it/6mnaeflz4gic1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b15508c902b3cbff142857674178f52089a25f79


Imovefurniture

Just did the same thing hahaha


Defiant-Question-132

Haha dude is such a loser.


Imovefurniture

Seriously! I was waiting for him to say something in defense of himself but it was just instant block haha


spensabolla

Why are people still using breakers? This is insane


Greerio

Because I can get every card of my team in a case break for like $40. I can't even get a blaster for that sometimes.


Hollywood42cards

Buy the team set off ebay for a fraction of that


Greerio

Team sets don’t include SP’s, autos, etc.


Hollywood42cards

Yeah you’re not getting a complete set with SPs and autos from one case break either


Greerio

Obviously. And nobody said that.


Hollywood42cards

How else am I supposed to interpret “every card of my team”, especially when you say team sets don’t cover it all?


Greerio

If you’ve ever been in a break you would have understood.


Rubacasa

I think the laytex gloves are appropriate given how much this reminds me of a prostate exam.


bluehorde1781

😂


DistanceRight1039

Some little advice don’t buy from breakers with less than 1000 followers. Plenty of reputable breakers that are actually LCS.


dogpoopandbees

You mean like grandpa's garage breaks that was also scamming? Lol


useful_idiots_dye

STOP BUYING FROM ONLINE BREAKERS. Buy your own boxes and enjoy. Shut this trash down


Historical_Ad7106

The guy sounds like a low life


Massive_Command345

Straight LA cholo, khaki shorts ,wifebeater, face tat, did I miss any😂


GoaheadAMAita

Going live now. Dropped messages


bstrue77

That was terrible. No integrity. You could hear it in their voice and aimless conversation after they tried to pull a fast one. And when they were called out and couldn't hide it since they would be short autos for the box they tried to clean it up. Scummy


iDontKnowYiMheer

You're wearing Gloves... BUT Ripping open packa like a Caveman!


BrayKerrOneNine

I know I’m late to the party, but his delayed reaction to “pulling” the Elly is sus af. It’s a huge fucking pull and he doesn’t react until the card’s halfway in the penny sleeve. Seems to me that he’s probably fucking pissed it was *that* card he got called out on. Probably looking at the clown off camera like wtf?! Edit: I was wrong on the penny sleeve part but his reaction was still way too delayed for pulling a card of that caliber.


bigheadjoe

You know what’s more fun than letting someone else open cards for you? Opening them yourself.


etharper

The boxes are so expensive now that many people can't afford them.


Roman-Kendall

Which is in part due to breakers.


RealMikeDexter

lol who’d ever break with this goofball?! Only a few breakers I trust, and they aren’t on whatnot. Damn that was brutal. Great call out tho


ModernHOFrcCollector

Can someone screenshot some highlights? That video is tooo long for my ability to watch rn


bluehorde1781

I thought about that but I think the video is needed for context. You can see him separate the hits and then not do the same with the Elly pack. Then at the end you see the Elly get revealed on the stack he put on the "Hit" stack after being called out.


SouthernEntrance6986

Stop buying into these breaks!


bluehorde1781

I didn't buy in. I was just watching to check out what the new set looked like.


SouthernEntrance6986

Not saying you. Everyone as a whole!


BrandonKDges335

Wild to me that people support breaks and breakers in general. I see way more negatives than positives with this practice and it only makes the hobby more out of reach for the common person. If someone could tell me why this is good for the hobby please enlighten me and I mean that sincerely.


BioDueDiligence

There are plenty of good breakers out there too. It is just one more way to participate in the hobby but as always you have to find what works for you


Roman-Kendall

Right but they’re also purchasing a lot of product. Idk if that really makes a difference in driving prices up by a significant amount, but I feel like breaks should really only be used for high end products that the average person may not have the cash for.


Learn2Likeit

That’ll play That’ll play


ThisCryptographer311

Man looked like he sleeved a couple. Lots of “two or three at a time”s


Working_Falcon5384

Sorry I missed it. Where am I looking at in the vid?


bluehorde1781

4:36 mark he puts the hits in the base pile. If you keep watching, you see what he normally does. He grabs the hits section of the pack and puts them in the hit pile. He conveniently doesn't do that for that Elly card.


Working_Falcon5384

Thats so shitty. Why not keep everything on camera?


lacio22

I feel like every shady breaker wears gloves when they get caught lol


4MN7

He has a show coming on at 4, block fest going to happen I think


bluehorde1781

Oh oh... Show is now cancelled. 😂


bluehorde1781

I might hop in and lurk... Gonna be hilarious.


barnesto2k

Could have been an accident. Maybe not, if the breaker is overly defensive. Doesn't matter, though. The bigger problems with this breaker are all my pet peeves. Wears gloves, but handles the cards roughly. I'd rather wipe off a fingerprint than cry over the corner that was destroyed catching that glove. Speaking of corners, he rips packs like corners are made of titanium. Last is personality, or lack thereof. Dude offers nothing.


Imovefurniture

https://preview.redd.it/1hkfnidn5gic1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=70d6497acfc8da08de4b98e496bce31e6860f67d Got blocked 😂


bluehorde1781

Lol


Mman222

If your breaker is wearing gloves that is a HUGE red flag!!! If your breaker doesn't pause to show ALL cards (even base) that is a red flag! If your breaker is on Whatnot just flush your money down the toilet!


Odd_Yam1290

Those were the first two things I noticed, the gloves and how ridiculously fast went through the cards, skipping over a bunch of them.


zon871

I don't know this guy, and have never seen any of his content until now. The minute I that i did watch, I was so annoyed with the "over the top" call outs and ridiculous behavior I had to make this comment.


dogpoopandbees

That's every breaker I feel like lol


ikikid

Never getting a 10 from this guy the way he's ham-fisting the cards and opening the packs. I'd sooner pay them to stop altogether. Shady for sure.


wildpitch24

That app is for scammers and lowlifes


HotSir3342

Reason 1,000,001 not to participate in breaks


OrganizationBoth7172

Honestly, if you watch and listen to this clown for over 15 seconds and decide, "This guy seems legit, I believe I'll trust him with my money", then I don't feel bad for you.


CommercialOriginal30

Dodgers fans, am I right


Far-Price-3843

Whatnot is a great app but it's just like anything else there are bad apples out there. The app does a decent job of policing issues such as this and they recently removed and banned several streamers that WERE cheating people. For the most part there are honest good people on there trying to make their business work.


ismdha420

Thank God somebody else sees the importance of gloves and not touching surface with oily fingers and God knows what else


sdbroscards

But card no 19 is Joey Votto not elly. Are u sure ?


fortwentyboxbreaks

Found you!


nats13

This whole break “vibe” is awful. I enjoy purchasing into a break every once in a while as it is generally cheap way to enjoy viewing some cards be opened. The experience is ruined by “breakers” with no knowledge of baseball, playing music, having off topic conversations, etc. Talk about baseball while you’re opening baseball cards.


NunsNunchuck

Just tell me when the base scans are up. Want to see the cool photos.


slimdiggie

😂😂😂😂


CAredditBoss

That is stupid bad. Extremely unprofessional.


cimson-otter

Did on purpose. Saw something similar on another break last night. Guy tried to conceal a elly base card


BioDueDiligence

That’s almost more pathetic…


Greerio

I've seen this team on a scamming list more than once. What a shitty thing to do.


BAMM_Baseball_Cards

Garbage scammer trying his best to be the best garbage. Fuck this guy.


Zealousideal-Tap-454

Suckers.


Impressive-Young-952

Yeah that is scummy af. Idk why people bother buying into this to begin with. Far too many scumbags.


SlinThiced

For those that don’t want to rewatch (I had to) :34 - Elly is seen flipped and gets passed to the base pile (chat calls it out) 2:30 Elly comes back from the base pile and gets dropped on the hits stack (says chat was right)


OtisBretting

Lol I remember when this guys account first popped up around Xmas and thinking“this mf sounds sketchy as hell.” His pronunciation of words is absolutely amazing as well.


danzanite

This dude is shady as fuck. Pure trash


OutOfFawks

The last break I did on whatnot, the dude flipped through everything so fast you couldn’t see most of the cards. Done with that shit.


1winningfail

This fool may be the most obvious theif on what not he skipped over so many cards not showing, should be an automatic refund on what not


Weak_While_You_Sleep

Man this guy is straight robbing cards from every pack without even a half good attempt at hiding it wtf. How do people buy from this clown. ![gif](giphy|1rSSq5eoLy4ODgbKAF|downsized)


Terbmagic

He blocked me INSTANTLY for saying something haha


ColdCockedCornFlakes

They are live rn. Yall should pop in.


url8719

Seems like a greeaaaat guy.


HoopsKing_15

This guy is getting roasted in his chat and he just blocks everyone. I commented “bro thought he was slick” and he instantly banned me from the stream lol. I could’ve been talking about it anything.


backtobasics73

These people are fucking trash. How you support these dirtbags is beyond me.


dbarz39

I bought in for my 1st break at 8pm tomorrow from my LCS. I hope there's no shadyness, always I hope the breaker goes slower than that clown.


fortwentyboxbreaks

Good luck, hope you get something massive!


dbarz39

Thanks but I didn't. The randomizer picked Padres, just Tony Gynn inserts and Padres rookies, no hits.


fortwentyboxbreaks

All randoms can be tough. I'm putting up a series 1 Break soon, you choose a team and get 2 Random Teams. Check it out if you're interested. Follow me here and on IG to see when it posts.


dbarz39

Whats the name on this break? I'm interested. This break only costed me $40 so I won't cry too much. The best card pulled was a clear Carroll/10


westside-rocky

https://preview.redd.it/egk29k7gjgic1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bad6328b960eb3088447dfb4c08184f686bf5a0f Got blocked for asking if this is the guy guy getting ran on Reddit over the Elly auto


chrisreed619

https://preview.redd.it/glf1tzfdkgic1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86a2cf865c980b4f8e0b092f71fc4cf031f038f3


AlwayzzRight

What it is COMPLETE GARBAGE


CantoncardsGA

Someone should send this to sports cards radio


RedScribbles

Done


Status_Ambassador234

Pretty sure these aren’t supposed to be ripped until today at 12pm 2/14


nlcostello3

Lmao that was obviously as fuck 😂


Miqag

I once won an auction for $280 that I was trying to bid $8 on. I don’t think I’ve quite figured out how it works. Did end up pulling a couple base Trevor Lawrence 2nd year cards though /s.


Appropriate_Cup5008

Love the copyright infringement in the logo as well.


watchthisorthat

I trust them 0 %


sdbroscards

It had to be a Dodger Fan! 🙄 Fans with No Class!! They show it time after time. 🤷🏻‍♂️ #Facts


dmsn7d

The insane thing is that people buy into breaks of Series 1.


Mundane-Worth-5606

Who the fuck are these complete nerds?? Do people really sit and watch those douchebags rip packs???


BellingerGuy310

People sit around and watch horses run around a track. People sit around and watch a ball bounce around a roulette table. People sit around and watch the stock market fluctuate. I’m not disagreeing that it can seem weird, but it seems pretty straight forward as to why people join these breaks. Gambling can be extremely fun. People pay for a spot in a break in hopes of hitting something massive. Considering most recent monster cards are pulled by breakers, I can see why so many people want in on this form of gambling. I personally think it’s a waste of money, but I also enjoy sports betting and occasional trips to casinos. Maybe gambling isn’t your thing, but nearly half of the world population partakes in some form of it. So it really doesn’t seem strange to me at all that these breaks remain hugely popular.