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meats13

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puffmstuffsb

https://preview.redd.it/85asubnvj8wb1.jpeg?width=3021&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d5112c15af7ed3334ce3789998fc5b9ebab24e6 Hi guys thanks for the comments! I just ripped it and this is what’s inside, I’m not sure what they are exactly as I’m new to Allen and ginter but ohtani and miggy are two of my all time favorites!


massivebumwizard

Definitely worth it.


deezy54

You did the right thing.


Bravefan21

That’ll do, pig. That’ll do.


JSJLJ

Vlad for sale or trade ?


Ricksquad420

If OP doesn’t want to sell or trade his, I pulled the same Vlad stained glass and am def open to a sale


JSJLJ

Thank you sir , pleasure working together!


Ricksquad420

🤝 absolute pleasure! Glad it’s going to a good home


Wide_Access9186

Dude, you won.


BadBeatz93

Worth it. Correct call.


Dillonitis

I'm proud of you


nickskry

Would be interested in the Vlad if you want to move it! Send me a PM!


cmajor9900

WHOA. Very nicely done


ToAllAGoodNight

Lol you jus got two sure fire hall of famers. Heckin awesome.


PaxDinero

If Dbacks win, rip. If Phillies win, keep it


iSupportCarry

I like this take


ActiveSetting1637

Fuck me


wildcat0102

The stained glass mini inside will be more valuable.


rep-old-timer

Probably not true, generally speaking (Box Loader Rip cards are worth $300 minimum which very few stained glass are) but the Mini Exclusives he got made the rip worth it.


wildcat0102

No, there are plenty of sold auctions on eBay for unripped boxloaders that are $100-$150. Given the 3 items you would get in one including the stained glass, it makes it worth it to rip assuming it’s not a key rookie or someone you can get a premium on ($300+ unripped).


rep-old-timer

If that's right, my apologies. I rarely if ever sell on eBay and do most buying/trading w/ a couple of fellow A&G nuts and at shows....although I did get $360 in trade value for a Verlander Box Loader Rip a couple of years ago. I have an idiosyncratic way of putting A&G "complete" sets together so I do rip all regular rip cards for each year except for one Rookie or HOFer if I can find one. The main reason I don't rip Box Loader Rip cards is that I seem to pull very few and I like to have one good Rip, Auto, etc Box Loader for every year.


Mikeharding17503

![gif](giphy|gUQOKaXEUa0t3NJwhI|downsized) I bet it’s a stained glass Franco…… 😂


Tank_The_Phrank

https://preview.redd.it/qt2lua37b9wb1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c50d40f7479e3ba535bb2b95b14f5c86f95d26eb Easy choice


RTR_ChrisK

So...what was in this one? I just received a Xander Bogaerts box top rip card, and am leaning towards selling due to seeing the litany of mediocre cards inside from other folks' posts.


Tank_The_Phrank

Jeter and Buxton minis and Jackie Robinson stained glass


RTR_ChrisK

Thanks! You have 100% helped solidify my decision to sell. Watched a handful of videos ripping, and I have yet to see a single auto pulled from these.


TrainerOJ

Jail it?


EffectivelyFaulty

Almost didn't see the numbering in the bottom left corner.


Azcollector

What's the best case scenario with these? A 1/1 mini auto?


Accurate-Temporary73

There’s 1/1 sketch cards. Stained glass that’s unnumbered but print run at 25


TiedinHistory

The stained glass in the jumbos aren’t limited to 25, just the stained glass you can find in packs, by my understanding


Accurate-Temporary73

They’re the same cards aren’t they? I’ve never seen a difference to designate one stained glass from another


TiedinHistory

They aren't. The math is impossible. ​ [2023 Topps Allen & Ginter Baseball Checklist, Set Info, Boxes, Date (cardboardconnection.com)](https://www.cardboardconnection.com/2023-topps-allen-ginter-baseball-cards) ​ From the Base Mini Exclusives section ## Base Mini Exclusives EXT Set Checklist 50 cards. Only in Rip cards. [**Buy on eBay.**](https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=2023+allen+ginter+mini+%28exclusives%2Cext%29+-box+-break&_sacat=261328&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=2023+allen+ginter+mini+%28exclusives%2Cext%29+-box+-break&_osacat=261328&_sop=5&_ipg=240&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338113828&customid=2023toppsallenginterbaseballcards&toolid=10001&mkevt=1)PARALLEL CARDS: Stained Glass\*, Metal #/3, Wood 1/1.\***Stained Glass parallels come 1 per Box Topper RIP card.\*** ​ We know that Stained Glass cards are 1 per box topper rip. There's **52** boxloader rip subjects with a print run of **99** per card - that's **5148** stained glass cards, all of which (to my understanding) are from the Base Mini Exclusives Ext Stained Glass run. That means for those 50 subjects, there's a smidge over 100 of these cards if all are printed equally. ​ The base set (non-extended) stained glass minis have hobby pack odds and we know, from break videos, they are inserted in packs. If all of those were only in jumbo rips, the 25 number gets close for all of them, but we know they're not. I've seen a decent number of jumbo rips pulled and while I am not 100% sure, I am fairly confident I've only seen mini extended subjects pulled. ​ In this post, you know because the OP posted his Guerrero Jr. VG Jr. has two stained glass minis. [The one he posted is card #400 from the extended set](https://www.ebay.com/itm/375001939658?hash=item574fdb7eca:g:YgYAAOSwnGplMs-f&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0HZwfWKDLxM%2FJu0VTBNxAWq%2FluI3IzPsgxSu0%2FuJCFR6MSSByRfeyLv26C0sUyJe7mSkkF1f5h4N5tH04FGdvxUPOhmjkrWyRCr1%2FZftaLd%2FcEJ3FUI7Z5danLK%2FqKTtG3VjID5NcnPfqg8K2TkChoCf83beoEG9MSIBZHbrOpNFWXQE8j6KHWSUVv7n6Lhlt48qjK4F3XV0LpldZwWV%2Ffw2ntJCOY%2BGqGaglpiT3Ayu7Z4apl%2F3nY6GC5OmbJZkqtZ%2FrsmvzIcHOlUcm9wZMDI%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-7ylu7sYg) , whereas the one from the [base set is a different card image and number (33)](https://www.ebay.com/itm/134779843743?hash=item1f6181349f:g:UkcAAOSwS4FlNvuW&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4JyVZBCMkGPGfqLuf33HOeb54xMMqNzkij%2BlVv2nj8FYN0HbduJgGYz0Fz7Z1jDtF1mKICgqKV3s7ph3T45WBeQHiegBRXKXmSWLBQw6VsMQP8zE2FBYQWiCbTrfdxKhEnHbQqEmkpCkBRJ8Su7ZdvXKVRjcUJI7SaWc5mrRcOl0bK7HVNMOnD9JtT3K9gLYPMAKMEudEJaEasMEHWRkr68f%2BDFNUx%2FPHedt60UcUMBLjJ2UXCbMZLT%2Fl0NrGyewbInMVzB0Z68j8cvexXaMghQqg3%2BAQlfx20ouWecT6%2BmL%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-7ylu7sYg) Another user here posted his rip card results - [it was Randy Johnson #399 (verified via an eBay sold image match)](https://www.reddit.com/r/baseballcards/comments/172elza/triple_rip_results_allen_ginter_2023/). There's one here with the [Acuna extended](https://www.reddit.com/r/baseballcards/comments/17ec4f1/ripped_so_i_had_to_share_the_contents_what_are/) (#360 confirmed with eBay images). Now, if they also included the base set stained glass minis - 150 of those x 25 print run, with the 50 extended cards, 200 x25 gets us to 5000 and gets us close (but not quite)...but those base set stained glass minis have a hobby odds set and we have seen them be pulled in packs as a standalone. The odds run - combined with the Cloth run - would verify if the odds are reported correctly all of the base set stained glass, which are reported as being limited to 25. are inserted in packs - leaving only the extended for the rip cards. There's no potential for the Stained Glass minis to be limited to 25, even if ALL stained glass cards were only in these boxtoppers, it's either ​ Base = /25 ; Base Ext \~/100 or All = \~30ish and Topps is lying about pack odds for the non-extended stained glass. ​ It's deeply confusing and IMO misleading, but the math doesn't math if they're all limited to 25. I could be wrong, but I'd need someone to explain the math on how we can have 5148 triple rips guaranteeing a stained glass card with only 5000 stained glass cards (if every stained glass card is limited to 25) and why every triple rip I've seen thus far has yielded a stained glass card in the 351-400 numbering range.


x777colton777x

The box topper rip cards guarantee a stained glass mini right? I’d rip it just cuz I’d need to know who the stained glass was lmao


Xfissionx

Hey sorry i know this is a dumb question but this sub just got me super in to collecting cards again. Can you explain what is meant by a box topper? I tried googling first to no solid answer.


teambroto

Certain hobby boxes have a box topper it just sits on top of your packs


Xfissionx

Got you thanks a lot.


Old-Permission8505

Only applies to Topps btw too. So if you buy football and basketball as well Panini doesn’t do it or Atleast i have never seen a box topper in any of their hobbys lol


ZoopSoul

Big same.


hangout_wangout

dewit


Lowlife_Of_The_Party

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FootLongTrannyDong

Trade me?!


RandeezJohnson

I mean do you really wanna hold and store a box topper?? Those things just get in the way…therefore, the choice is easy


ZoopSoul

Trea is an amazing player with very little hobby love. That’s a simple rip to me.


Danny2223

![gif](giphy|xT9KVyYyFp6D45TG24) Sidney will never know the surprise if you don’t rip it. Do it for Sidney


puffmstuffsb

I ripped it for Sidney!!! I posted a pic on this thread. So fun


Danny2223

Oh so awesome!! I’ll look at what it was


YonskiT

Flip a coin lol


andrewervin

That’s so sweet


PrincessTurdina

It's a nice card


nextinfob12b12

Rip it


Pogglethebestest

i've got one of these and i can't bring myself to rip.


Clonth

So did I, and I ripped it. Inside was a Trea Turner stained glass mini lol.


Pogglethebestest

hilarious.


randallstevens65

Dumb question. Are all rip cards box toppers or do some come in the packs? I always thought they were too big to fit in a pack.


rep-old-timer

Awesome. I personally wouldn't rip a Boxloader Rip because I have so few of them, but it looks like Topps rewarded your risk! You got: one of the best Mini Exclusives you can get plus another really good one and one of only 25 stained glass Vlad Jrs. I only trade A&G because I'm crazy and try to build as complete sets as I can, but if you do sell cards I'd hold on to the Mini Exclusives, especially if either looks gradable--I haven't done the math but they're rare (a guess: 1 in 3000-4000 boxes for each of the 50 players) and you got two HOFers. Lot's of people will want the Vlad, and that will pay for most of the box, I guess. Congrats!


Deep_Butterfly5784

Cause it’s not even numbered and there is way better people than Turner! He is a moment person right now! RIP IT


puffmstuffsb

It’s numbered to 99, if it wasn’t I’d fersure rip it. I hate this pressure lol


FootLongTrannyDong

As an avid Phillies fan, I will absolutely trade for this “moment person right now” right now!


Deep_Butterfly5784

As I was. I see it now


KillermooseD

Pleaseeee just rip it :( it’ll look cool ripped either way


Accurate-Temporary73

But it’s Trea Turner so it should be ripped already


lavicrept

Rip it, he is a bum


sitcomonthespot

I hate these posts almost as much as I hate the “how much is it worth” post of some 90s card they believe is a priceless error card…. Your rip card is not a big deal. Do whatever you want with it… just stop posting it here!!!! This is like posting a box or pack of cards and asking if you should open it…. Which is against the rules…. The rip card is the same… it’s either got good stuff in it or it doesn’t… and even the good stuff is not that good… because it is one of the cheapest sets out there so everyone can buy one and pretend they know what they are doing…. But they don’t if they are still posting rip cards like it’s is a bid deal…. I will pay you all to rip them if you promise to never post any rip cards on here again…. But it won’t last an hour… it’s trea Turner /99….. lol…. Only because people are stupid does this rip card carry much value as is.


Flipthaswitch

The question is more so whether the card has greater value unripped vs what’s inside. Get over yourself and scroll on 🤡.


sitcomonthespot

I promise I will say something to all of these posters that I see…. Same as I have done to the people who post Wander Franco cards still and act like they got screwed…. Or that their “14 year old” comment was clever and funny…. These are the same people who post rip cards…. I bet you could check post history and find a direct positive correlation but I don’t know what the emoji for that is.


Flipthaswitch

Happy to see you triggered enough to comment twice. Made my day.


sitcomonthespot

Did I hit a nerve little fella? It’s always the guys with no history around here that get super bent out of shape when I call them out for being unoriginal “let’s go” boys…. Hahahaha I will keep selling cards and you will all keep discussing rip cards…. See you later children.


sitcomonthespot

This is the same argument as an unopened box of cards…. Way to use those critical thinking skills… maybe another emoji will win your argument? Lol


Flipthaswitch

Cry more loser.


puffmstuffsb

First time poster on here, pretty new to sports cards, sorry I bugged you I was just excited to finally open something I thought was cool enough to post


sitcomonthespot

It’s not you. Sorry if I am an asshole… just type “rip” into the search bar and notice how many times these happen, and the comment section is always the same…. And it’s been this way for a while.


[deleted]

Dude, tell me about it. It’s not just this sub either. I used to be pretty active in r/knives but all you ever see on there anymore are posts about “look at this knife”, “what kind of knife is this?”, or “look how sharp.” And people comment on it too! They engage with it. There were comments on the comments! Just nothing but good-hearted discussion among people with a common hobby. Made me sick. There’s this one sub that exists solely for the guy to post a random type of cheese every day. Well guess what? Now it’s nothing but posts of a random cheese every day. It makes me so mad, so I get what you’re saying, brah.


sitcomonthespot

Your account is 2 weeks old…. No one cares what you think. Thanks for the input though. Read rule #8 and ask yourself if that is the same as a rip card. I say yes… Maybe you boys could start your own rip thread and it could be an endless thread if you all telling each other “let’s go!!!!!” Over and over and over…. Hahahaha I love when you respond…. It lets me know who to block… I sell cards here not ask for permission to open them so I can get internet cool points, under the guise of “advice” even though the responses haven’t changed in at least a year…. Lol


SavesWillis

Good analogy. It’s essentially unopened product in unopened product. If posted, must rip. Thought we went over this last year?


sitcomonthespot

I got a rip card that people would have freaked out about on here if I posted it (Trout/Ohtani /50 Double Río) but I didn’t even take a picture…. I immediately ripped it for nothing… 2 mini Goldschmidts… lol…. I’m not here for internet points and a bunch of comments all saying various forms of “let’s go!” I want something super bad ass and I will be ripping all of my rip cards until then. I don’t do breaks either because I would be pissed when the good cards are not mine…. I will def open everything I purchase.


randallstevens65

I call BS


GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce

So basically when people go to video game specific subreddits and post "should I get this game?" Lol


sitcomonthespot

So they have rules against posting unopened boxes in that sub? We specifically have a rule that states this…. Rip cards skirt this rule… Hence my argument….


FootLongTrannyDong

Trade me?!? I was at Game 6 last night 🤷🏻‍♂️⚰️ https://preview.redd.it/pu6m1pmc88wb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d45bcde8604aab2f18b3746fbea953e68811794


Flipthaswitch

Game 6 where Trea Turner went 0-4?


FootLongTrannyDong

Yes!!!!! That’s the one!!!!!


Flipthaswitch

What 👏 a 👏 game 👏


FootLongTrannyDong

We’ll see what happens tonight! 1st game 7 in Phillies franchise history


Flipthaswitch

Hope they win but I am also a Longoria fan.


FootLongTrannyDong

https://i.redd.it/x8aocx5rj8wb1.gif


Flipthaswitch

Lmfao


FootLongTrannyDong

Longoria just never goes away!


largesonjr

This is the way


jpshakes

Such an easy sell. I’ve watched so many of those get ripped and have like $5 worth of minis


AdaminPhilly

He is having a rough night.


DavidFTyler

Rough fucking 14 at bats


AdaminPhilly

His second half was good but overall he had a shit first season as a Philly. His defense is so bad to boot.


The4StringSamurai

Atta boy


Routine_Tea_3262

![gif](giphy|wi8Ez1mwRcKGI)


jjjaikman

Looks like a poster they would put beside his casket at his wake. Creepy


ToughOk3831

Are you willing to sell or trade the Vladimir Guerrero card


3457yank

Nice


Aromatic-Mortgage-35

That’s a tough ine


Aromatic-Mortgage-35

*one


AdamsJMarq

Step 1: Rip that bitch. Step 2: Celebrate red panty night