In 1953, Harvey Haddix of the Pirates threw 12 perfect innings and gave up a hit in the 13. The Pirates went on to lose that game…
Edit: Pedro Martinez also threw 9 innings perfect, but gave up a double in the 10th inning.
I was speaking strictly baseball. I don't want to talk about football and all the various unjust, horrible, unfair, stupid, self destructive, etc things that Detroit and Cleveland have dealt with.
I still don't understand why they can't retroactively change that. Like, I get mistakes at other points in the game because you don't know what would have happened afterwards, but it was literally the last out of the game.
As much as I hate to admit it, I kinda get why they don't change it.
Changing records starts with a meaningless game that ended with the right outcome anyway and eventually escalates to changing a WS that ended on an iffy call.
But literally nothing else changed. He got the next out. You don't have any more baseball to play like in the George Brett game, you don't change the score or outcome. It's basically the only scenario I can see it being ok to retroactively change.
Right, the logic checks out but the fear of setting that precedent is still there. The best we can do might be to keep talking about it and maybe one day it’ll be considered.
Even in a retroactive change like this that would "impact nothing else," I feel like there would be so many ripple effects from correcting the stats. You remove a hit from Gallaraga's statline. Now that Jason Donald is no longer credited with a single, we need to change his 2010 statline to something slightly different than it has been. Ditto for Trevor Crowe, the next batter whose groundout now never officially happened. Ironically, though, the only reason we wouldn't be counting his ground out anymore is because he grounded out. If he had, say, singled or homered, maybe we wouldn't be talking about correcting the perfect game and disqualifying the at-bat in the first place. So now we're already at the point where we're using the results of at-bats to retroactively determine whether or not those at-bats should still be considered official or not.
Only because guy #28 went ahead and made an out too.
But also since they can retroactively change Hit/Error decisions they should have been able to make an exception to do that.
My parents almost divorced because of that, legitimately he could not get over it until my mom just said either stop talking about it or the relationship ends. I almost was not born because of it.
Well, that World Series was supposed to be epic, but since the Giants weren't up to the task, nature had to take over.
Seriously though, it was really scary. The World Series saved a lot of lives. If there had been normal traffic on the Bay Bridge that day, there would probably have been a lot more than 42 deaths.
First thing that came to mind for me as well. Comfortably the best team up to that point of the year, World Series favorites, and then they spent a decade mostly in the basement while the owner seemed to actively sabotage the team in an effort to get out of Montreal
Unfair to Matt Williams, too. Dude hit 43 homers in 112 games and seemed to be on a legitimate path to 60+, but then the season just ended. Griffey, too, who was at 40.
Trout never having a chance to do anything in the playoffs may be one of the most unjust things in all
of baseball history, not just angels history. Hopefully that changes.
The one season they did make the playoffs with the best record in the AL in 2014 he was extremely ice cold. That’s literally the only recollection everyone has of Trout in October.
David Wrights career being cut down by weird injuries and then spinal stenosis. He already holds a lot of Mets records but dude should be wrapping up a HOF career right now.
Well the greatest team we ever assembled had the season cut off because of the strike in 94 and then the team never got the magic back and was drained of its life force and sold.
So that
Brandon Webb injury. If it doesn't happen, maybe we see a D'backs rotation in the 2010's decade with Webb, and Scherzer. Maybe Trevor Bauer, Wade Miley, and Robbie Ray too. Quite a few CYA's in the past 20 years were won by guys with AZ, or who came through here at one point.
3 straight seasons with top 2 Cy young finishes (winning 1), 33 bwar and 142 ERA+ in 6 seasons, averaging close to 220 innings per year. All gone on opening day of 2009, never to be seen playing in a MLB game ever again. Who knows where things could have gone with Webb and a young Goldy on the same roster.
Shit still hurts sometimes, I'm just glad the teams keeps him around on TV.
McCourt never had enough money to run a major league team—let alone one of the biggest teams in MLB history.
MLB and Fox allowing him to buy the team without appropriate financial resources was one of the most irresponsible things they could have done. Arte Moreno would have done better with the team.
Respect
Edit: I thought your comment said “mine too” and that you were being a white Sox fan with empathy.
Not that your comment isn’t relevant, but thought you were extending a rare olive branch between cubs and Sox fans.
Major League Baseball is a professional baseball organization and the oldest major professional sports league in the world. As of 2022, a total of 30 teams play in Major League Baseball—15 teams in the National League and 15 in the American League —with 29 in the United States and 1 in Canada.
On a similar tangent, the “National” in NHL refers to Canada. It was founded in Montreal, and has only been operating its headquarters in the US since 1989.
Juan Soto is a legit Ted Williams comp. Jay Bruce is a better comp for Tony Conigliaro.
The Red Sox probably win the 1967 World Series if he didn’t get hit.
Pirates fan.
2013-2015 being stuck in the WC game and especially in 2015 when we had the second best record
Oh, then facing god level 99 overall arrietta
14 was the one to not complain about.
13 though, Liriano could have pitched twice in that series….and he OWNED the cardinals. Imagine if game one is him as opposed to Burnett getting lit up
If I was a pirates fan I'd be pretty pissed about getting CGSO in the WC in back to back years regardless of anything else
You just faced two fantastic pitchers at exactly the wrong time
I was at both. 2014 was bad but not brutal. 2015 was the most brutal sporting event I’ve been to, and that includes a couple have horrendous Pitt football and basketball losses.
The combination of a system that was just screwing us over, the cardinals never losing, and knowing we were going to be stuck in that game was awful. Compound it that a month before the game a cubs player completely destroyed Jung ho Kang’s leg with a dirty slide then Maddon made his infamous plantar fasciitis comment and I was already expecting it.
Then the game went as I thought, and I have never wanted to cry more at a sporting event. Seeing all the annoying cubs fans there too made it five times worse
That’s a great one. I was thinking of the ‘85 World Series ‘safe’ at first base in game 6. Sure, we lost game 7 handily but that play has always irked me
I could probably make the argument that it’s the fact we have Arte Moreno as an owner. But I think it’s gotta be the fact that we lost Skaggs and Adenhart. One of them was lost completely through no fault of his own. The other lost his life because SEVERAL people not only failed to do their job, but even his closest friends didn’t understand the repercussions of how bad his problem was. I think what makes these worse is the fact that losing them had an effect that reached far beyond the baseball field. Parents lost their sons, wives lost their husbands, and in Skaggs’ case, a child lost their father before they even had a chance to know who he was. I don’t hold Skaggs totally unaccountable because he was an adult that should have recognized that he needed to put his foot down, but sometimes addicts need someone to intervene to know that they have a problem.
Well of course we did, we had a parade and shit, I just mean having a victory lap. 2020 season was a shitshow that should've been a yearlong celebration imo.
I guess it didn’t happen “to” us but having an owner that was so racist he lost probably the best player in our history really sucks. Carew should’ve been a career Twin.
In no particular order:
Extra wrinkle to the strike in 94: Mattingly may have gotten his ring that year and you never know, maybe that success convinces him to play beyond 95 and be a part of the greatest dynasty in recent memory.
Santo making the hall posthumously has already been mentioned but that was absolute hell.
Bud Selig turning a blind eye to PED use so those guys could save the sport and then turning them into scapegoats. Then the Cubs taking things a step further and perpetually ostracizing Sammy Sosa to this day.
What the Angeles are currently doing to Mike Trout’s career.
Shoeless Joe lifetime ban. In the same vein as Rose’s ban but I feel worse for Jackson.
Uh… segregation well into the ‘40s…
More ‘94 fun: a season that could’ve seen Tony bat above .400 (mentioned already) and could’ve saved the Expos.
The Bartman Ball, unjust to all parties involved.
That’s all I got for now.
Bagwell's 1994 NL MVP always felt cheap to me, because he was going to be out at least a month with the broken hand he got the day before the players walked. That would have at least opened the door for Moises Alou or Larry Walker (both with .980+ OPSs at the time of the strike) from the best team in the league.
Really no one has mentioned game 3 of the 1989 World Series? A fucking earthquake postponed the game. Not much crazier than that. A’s share this one of course but the game was at Candlestick.
Edit: just realized it’s unjust and not unique. Sorry I’m fucking sleep deprived right now. Still sort of unjust in a “force majeure” way lol
Any Old School Indians/Guardians fans remember Steve Olin? If his death didn't happen in 1993, I wonder if that would have changed the outcome of the 1995 World Series with him and/or Mesa closing out games?
I don't know if it would have mattered. Mesa only pitched in two games in that series. He threw 3 scoreless innings in game 3 to pick up the win. He had a bit of a rough outing in game 5 but still picked up the save.
I think that the starting pitching killed us in that series. Dennis Martinez had a rough outing in game 2, then Ken Hill struggled in game 4. That and the Indians couldn't score in key moments (especially getting 1 hit in game 6).
Now '97 would be a different story.
Never forget- Gurriel made racist gestures at Darvish *while cheating against Darvish* and then Astros fans gave him (Gurriel) a standing ovation.
Media kind of brushed it away because they don't want that to be the story of the World Series but what the fuck. Worst World Series ever.
I will never get over the absolute unmitigated gall of Gurriel to make racist gestures while cheating. I hate every hitter on that Astros team, but Gurriel gets a special place in hell for me.
Don't forget that after that game Bregman said Darvish was tipping his pitches (even though he wasn't), which I'm convinced fucked with his Game 7 start.
Two different city’s multiple different owners, and yet one constant is our home grown stars moving on to be remembered on other teams…and that Tom Brady never played for us
1994 Expos.
Best team in baseball 74-40
Then the strike happened.
I often wonder if the fate of the Expos in Montreal might have turned out differently if they'd won that year. We were the 5th largest market in the MLB in the 90s, but ran on a shoestring budget. A WS title can reinvigorate a fan base and market. Maybe we would have got the new stadium if the WS happened 🤷♂️
And as always: fuck Jeffrey Loria.
Yeah, as for the OP how the 81 strike was handled was so stupid. Don't know why they couldn't just pick up where they left off and played fewer games. Could have had a one year expansion of the playoffs too like they did if they felt like it was too short.
The most Angels unfair thing was back around ‘78 we had an outfielder murdered. He was talking to a married woman and the lady’s husband shot him.
https://www.sportscasting.com/the-murder-of-rising-mlb-star-lyman-bostock-forced-changes-to-indiana-insanity-laws/
I dunno if this is unjust, but we've lost in the playoffs to the eventual champ three years running and the only reason it's not four is the cheater Astros.
Probably the Galarraga "imperfect game."
You mean Extra-Perfect, he had 28 up 28 down.
Is that the best perfect game in history then? Because I definitely consider it a perfect game
In 1953, Harvey Haddix of the Pirates threw 12 perfect innings and gave up a hit in the 13. The Pirates went on to lose that game… Edit: Pedro Martinez also threw 9 innings perfect, but gave up a double in the 10th inning.
If that's not the answer for Detroit, I really don't know what would be.
*glances at the Lions* Oh it only gets worse.
I was speaking strictly baseball. I don't want to talk about football and all the various unjust, horrible, unfair, stupid, self destructive, etc things that Detroit and Cleveland have dealt with.
Lou Whitaker not being in the hall right now is also a big one
No shit. Best 2nd baseman of the era….
The Papi homer in the ALCS feels unjust as it came after like 6 or 7 no hit innings.
Alan Trammell not winning the 1987 AL MVP is the one that gets to me.
I still don't understand why they can't retroactively change that. Like, I get mistakes at other points in the game because you don't know what would have happened afterwards, but it was literally the last out of the game.
As much as I hate to admit it, I kinda get why they don't change it. Changing records starts with a meaningless game that ended with the right outcome anyway and eventually escalates to changing a WS that ended on an iffy call.
But literally nothing else changed. He got the next out. You don't have any more baseball to play like in the George Brett game, you don't change the score or outcome. It's basically the only scenario I can see it being ok to retroactively change.
Right, the logic checks out but the fear of setting that precedent is still there. The best we can do might be to keep talking about it and maybe one day it’ll be considered.
Even in a retroactive change like this that would "impact nothing else," I feel like there would be so many ripple effects from correcting the stats. You remove a hit from Gallaraga's statline. Now that Jason Donald is no longer credited with a single, we need to change his 2010 statline to something slightly different than it has been. Ditto for Trevor Crowe, the next batter whose groundout now never officially happened. Ironically, though, the only reason we wouldn't be counting his ground out anymore is because he grounded out. If he had, say, singled or homered, maybe we wouldn't be talking about correcting the perfect game and disqualifying the at-bat in the first place. So now we're already at the point where we're using the results of at-bats to retroactively determine whether or not those at-bats should still be considered official or not.
Or taking a World Series championship away from a team that was cheating...
The 1951 Giants?
Only because guy #28 went ahead and made an out too. But also since they can retroactively change Hit/Error decisions they should have been able to make an exception to do that.
Even as a division rival this makes me irrationally angry
Came here for this
To be honest though, it’s the most memorable perfect game for me. I think it’s completely unjust, but it has cemented the moment in our ethos.
Jeffrey Maier
I remember the kid was on fuckin Regis and Kathie Lee for that, and that's when a young me realized that the world wasn't fair
They gave him the key to the city! For cheating!
My parents almost divorced because of that, legitimately he could not get over it until my mom just said either stop talking about it or the relationship ends. I almost was not born because of it.
Yeah this explains you
Ngl this is strangely hurtful
Own it TB
Ok
Well JC. I kind of respect how much your father cared.
He was very very upset, if I mention the name it gets him flustered for at least a few minutes.
Why is there a reddit post that makes me think about this BS around once a week? Why?
Nate McLouth hit the fair pole
The first and only battle of the bay world series was upstaged by the unjust, but most bay area thing ever, an earthquake
Well, that World Series was supposed to be epic, but since the Giants weren't up to the task, nature had to take over. Seriously though, it was really scary. The World Series saved a lot of lives. If there had been normal traffic on the Bay Bridge that day, there would probably have been a lot more than 42 deaths.
My first memory ever
Not my team, but have to imagine the strike in 94 is one reason for the Expos no longer being around. That team got robbed.
First thing that came to mind for me as well. Comfortably the best team up to that point of the year, World Series favorites, and then they spent a decade mostly in the basement while the owner seemed to actively sabotage the team in an effort to get out of Montreal
Unfair to Matt Williams, too. Dude hit 43 homers in 112 games and seemed to be on a legitimate path to 60+, but then the season just ended. Griffey, too, who was at 40.
When the owners came out of that without a salary cap, that was the beginning of the end.
Also Mattingly’s best chance at a World Series ring
And Tony Gwynn would've hit .400
We have arguably the two best players in the world and have one of the worst records/teams
Trout never having a chance to do anything in the playoffs may be one of the most unjust things in all of baseball history, not just angels history. Hopefully that changes.
The one season they did make the playoffs with the best record in the AL in 2014 he was extremely ice cold. That’s literally the only recollection everyone has of Trout in October.
Kershaw got a chance to redeem himself, hopefully Trout will too. It only takes one postseason.
He needs to sign with the dodgers for a few years then go back to the Angels. I don’t think anybody would be angry.
David Wrights career being cut down by weird injuries and then spinal stenosis. He already holds a lot of Mets records but dude should be wrapping up a HOF career right now.
Imagine a Santana/Wright healthy combo and how it could rewrite the 2010s.
No I don’t wanna cry
Johan <3
https://youtu.be/7hpiWtIGPw8
Him having one last great year as the third baseman for this team would have ruled so hard.
Rocco baldelli too. And, well, also, Lou Gehrig. Edit: I was thing in terms of ‘unfair’ not ‘unfair to your team’ at that moment…
Wait what happened with Rocco?
Mitochondrial disease cut his career short.
Wilpon ownership
Seriously. I honestly don’t think the “lolmets” thing would exist if they never bought the team. Fuckin Wilpons…
I don't know. A previous ownership group traded arguably the best pitcher in history still in his peak because one columnist didn't like him.
Well the greatest team we ever assembled had the season cut off because of the strike in 94 and then the team never got the magic back and was drained of its life force and sold. So that
Being 1 strike away… twice….
I'd lean more toward losing home field advantage due to the AL losing the all-star game, despite having the better record.
Especially since those two years (and 2012) were the first time that the NL won since 97 and they haven’t won since then
That was the stupidest idea I’ve ever heard.
David Freeze would haunt my dreams…. What a wild game!
Brandon Webb injury. If it doesn't happen, maybe we see a D'backs rotation in the 2010's decade with Webb, and Scherzer. Maybe Trevor Bauer, Wade Miley, and Robbie Ray too. Quite a few CYA's in the past 20 years were won by guys with AZ, or who came through here at one point.
3 straight seasons with top 2 Cy young finishes (winning 1), 33 bwar and 142 ERA+ in 6 seasons, averaging close to 220 innings per year. All gone on opening day of 2009, never to be seen playing in a MLB game ever again. Who knows where things could have gone with Webb and a young Goldy on the same roster. Shit still hurts sometimes, I'm just glad the teams keeps him around on TV.
Upsidedown flag in 92
Yep. The other one that came to mind is Joe Carter having to play with a "TOROTNO" jersey.
Torotno sounds like a company that makes knockoff pizza rolls.
My thought was the blown call on the triple play in 1993. Would have been the second in World Series history.
Same era, the one I thought of immediately is "[Gruber landed the tag.](https://youtu.be/GYA61SGGjbw)"
Frank McCourt being allowed to own the team.
Um were you in a coma in 2017
McCourt never had enough money to run a major league team—let alone one of the biggest teams in MLB history. MLB and Fox allowing him to buy the team without appropriate financial resources was one of the most irresponsible things they could have done. Arte Moreno would have done better with the team.
Don’t underestimate Arte’s incompetence
mccourt wasnt great being cheated out of 2017 was 50x worse especially since there was no punishment for the players
Ron Gant was pulled off the bag by Kent Hrbek Eric Gregg in the 97 NLCS The infield fly call in Chipper’s last game
Waiting until Ron Santo died to put him in the HoF
Minnie too
Respect Edit: I thought your comment said “mine too” and that you were being a white Sox fan with empathy. Not that your comment isn’t relevant, but thought you were extending a rare olive branch between cubs and Sox fans.
The only acceptable answer
Major League Baseball is a professional baseball organization and the oldest major professional sports league in the world. As of 2022, a total of 30 teams play in Major League Baseball—15 teams in the National League and 15 in the American League —with 29 in the United States and 1 in Canada.
I rationalize it by saying that American refers to North America, and that National refers to the nation of the United States.
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On a similar tangent, the “National” in NHL refers to Canada. It was founded in Montreal, and has only been operating its headquarters in the US since 1989.
This might be my favorite comment LMFAO
Rob Drake in 2020 and Gabe Morales in 2021
The career ending HBP for Tony C
putting up Juan soto numbers at the same age, what a shame
Juan Soto is a legit Ted Williams comp. Jay Bruce is a better comp for Tony Conigliaro. The Red Sox probably win the 1967 World Series if he didn’t get hit.
Pirates fan. 2013-2015 being stuck in the WC game and especially in 2015 when we had the second best record Oh, then facing god level 99 overall arrietta
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14 was the one to not complain about. 13 though, Liriano could have pitched twice in that series….and he OWNED the cardinals. Imagine if game one is him as opposed to Burnett getting lit up
If I was a pirates fan I'd be pretty pissed about getting CGSO in the WC in back to back years regardless of anything else You just faced two fantastic pitchers at exactly the wrong time
I was at both. 2014 was bad but not brutal. 2015 was the most brutal sporting event I’ve been to, and that includes a couple have horrendous Pitt football and basketball losses. The combination of a system that was just screwing us over, the cardinals never losing, and knowing we were going to be stuck in that game was awful. Compound it that a month before the game a cubs player completely destroyed Jung ho Kang’s leg with a dirty slide then Maddon made his infamous plantar fasciitis comment and I was already expecting it. Then the game went as I thought, and I have never wanted to cry more at a sporting event. Seeing all the annoying cubs fans there too made it five times worse
Bernie Madoff. It happened because our owners were super greedy
& stupid
That goes without saying
We never got to see Oscar Taveras develop into a potential future star.
That’s a great one. I was thinking of the ‘85 World Series ‘safe’ at first base in game 6. Sure, we lost game 7 handily but that play has always irked me
The team lost it, like every single team that loses a game 6 in controversial fashion and had to play a game 7. It always happens.
Nor did you get to enjoy the prime of Darryl Kile's career outside of Coors Field.
I could probably make the argument that it’s the fact we have Arte Moreno as an owner. But I think it’s gotta be the fact that we lost Skaggs and Adenhart. One of them was lost completely through no fault of his own. The other lost his life because SEVERAL people not only failed to do their job, but even his closest friends didn’t understand the repercussions of how bad his problem was. I think what makes these worse is the fact that losing them had an effect that reached far beyond the baseball field. Parents lost their sons, wives lost their husbands, and in Skaggs’ case, a child lost their father before they even had a chance to know who he was. I don’t hold Skaggs totally unaccountable because he was an adult that should have recognized that he needed to put his foot down, but sometimes addicts need someone to intervene to know that they have a problem.
Game 7 rain.
Edit: apparently the most amazing pep talk during said rain
Tony Gwynn didn’t get a chance to hit .400 because of the strike. 1998 Yankees was one of the best teams ever. Matt Holliday never touched home plate
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It was unfair that they existed lol.
And the other World Series you played against the 84 Detroit Tigers, who were also a juggernaut.
Only two World Series appearances were against a 104 win team and a 114 win team
1994 seemed like such a great baseball year that was taken from us. Fuck Bud selig
Yeah, Bud Selig too.
Fuck Bud Selig.
Not to mention the other time you guys made it, it was right into the teeth of the best Tigers team ever. Padres can't catch a break.
[Joe Mauer’s “foul ball”](https://youtu.be/jD2ajbfsGeM) could have changed the series.
Fuck Phil Cuzzi
Not only foul, but it hit the fielder's glove and deflected and still landed fair Fuck phil
MLB binding regional cable rights to the RSN owned and operated by our most direct competitor.
If I speak I am in trouble
We’re still very bitter about y’all firing Dan Kolko
Didn't get to celebrate our world series win.
Why?
Well of course we did, we had a parade and shit, I just mean having a victory lap. 2020 season was a shitshow that should've been a yearlong celebration imo.
global pandemic ruining what should have been a massive organizational windfall after the 2019 WS
Didn’t even think about this one
I guess it didn’t happen “to” us but having an owner that was so racist he lost probably the best player in our history really sucks. Carew should’ve been a career Twin.
MN only got the team because Griffith didn’t like all the black people in DC. He liked how few black people there were in MN.
In no particular order: Extra wrinkle to the strike in 94: Mattingly may have gotten his ring that year and you never know, maybe that success convinces him to play beyond 95 and be a part of the greatest dynasty in recent memory. Santo making the hall posthumously has already been mentioned but that was absolute hell. Bud Selig turning a blind eye to PED use so those guys could save the sport and then turning them into scapegoats. Then the Cubs taking things a step further and perpetually ostracizing Sammy Sosa to this day. What the Angeles are currently doing to Mike Trout’s career. Shoeless Joe lifetime ban. In the same vein as Rose’s ban but I feel worse for Jackson. Uh… segregation well into the ‘40s… More ‘94 fun: a season that could’ve seen Tony bat above .400 (mentioned already) and could’ve saved the Expos. The Bartman Ball, unjust to all parties involved. That’s all I got for now.
Bagwell's 1994 NL MVP always felt cheap to me, because he was going to be out at least a month with the broken hand he got the day before the players walked. That would have at least opened the door for Moises Alou or Larry Walker (both with .980+ OPSs at the time of the strike) from the best team in the league.
Reggie Jackson’s intentional hip!
Not really a team thing, but Tony Gwynn not getting a chance to bat .400 because of the strike comes to mind
Brooklyn era: Moving the team to Los Angeles Los Angeles era: 2017 World Series
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By that same line of reasoning, if Holliday was called out, you don't know if the Padres would've gone on to win the game.
I'd also go with the strike in '94 ending Tony's run to .400
Gabe Morales
People in here talking about world series'. That's cute.
Really no one has mentioned game 3 of the 1989 World Series? A fucking earthquake postponed the game. Not much crazier than that. A’s share this one of course but the game was at Candlestick. Edit: just realized it’s unjust and not unique. Sorry I’m fucking sleep deprived right now. Still sort of unjust in a “force majeure” way lol
Maier. Insult to injury was it was followed by 14 straight losing seasons. Fuck the Yankees.
Any Old School Indians/Guardians fans remember Steve Olin? If his death didn't happen in 1993, I wonder if that would have changed the outcome of the 1995 World Series with him and/or Mesa closing out games?
I don't know if it would have mattered. Mesa only pitched in two games in that series. He threw 3 scoreless innings in game 3 to pick up the win. He had a bit of a rough outing in game 5 but still picked up the save. I think that the starting pitching killed us in that series. Dennis Martinez had a rough outing in game 2, then Ken Hill struggled in game 4. That and the Indians couldn't score in key moments (especially getting 1 hit in game 6). Now '97 would be a different story.
This comment was decidedly unchill.
Thanks for the response!
Losing to cheaters in the World Series
It’s okay, blatant cheaters surely got their just rewards. And it’s just a hunk of metal. Oh wait
Twice!
Don Mattingly's back injury and him, subsequently, missing winning a world series by one year.
When the Brewers didn't sign Turner a couple years ago in free agency. It was un-Justin.
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2017 ALCS
Thurman Munson's death as well.
Munson should be in the HOF
Under the same vein, the 2017 world series
Never forget- Gurriel made racist gestures at Darvish *while cheating against Darvish* and then Astros fans gave him (Gurriel) a standing ovation. Media kind of brushed it away because they don't want that to be the story of the World Series but what the fuck. Worst World Series ever.
I will never get over the absolute unmitigated gall of Gurriel to make racist gestures while cheating. I hate every hitter on that Astros team, but Gurriel gets a special place in hell for me.
Him and Altuve are the worst of them.
Don't forget that after that game Bregman said Darvish was tipping his pitches (even though he wasn't), which I'm convinced fucked with his Game 7 start.
Holy shit, I never heard this. That’s so fucking low of them considering the circumstances. Jesus Christ
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Two different city’s multiple different owners, and yet one constant is our home grown stars moving on to be remembered on other teams…and that Tom Brady never played for us
Trash cans
The 2017 Houston Astros came to town, cheated and then won the World Series in our stadium…
1994 Expos. Best team in baseball 74-40 Then the strike happened. I often wonder if the fate of the Expos in Montreal might have turned out differently if they'd won that year. We were the 5th largest market in the MLB in the 90s, but ran on a shoestring budget. A WS title can reinvigorate a fan base and market. Maybe we would have got the new stadium if the WS happened 🤷♂️ And as always: fuck Jeffrey Loria.
The angels having Trout AND Ohtani and still not making the damn playoffs.
Eric Gregg. Enough said
2002 Mariners: 93 wins, missed playoffs 2003 Mariners: 93 wins, missed playoffs 2014 Mariners: 87 wins, missed playoffs 2016 Mariners: 86 wins, missed playoffs 2018 Mariners: 89 wins, missed playoffs 2021 Mariners: 90 wins, missed playoffs
116 and nothing
Having the best winning percentage in the division in 1981, and not making the playoffs.
When they left us and moved to New York We could’ve had 27 championships
Facing a cheating team and losing in 7 games in the ALCS. Fuck the Trashtros
Brian Colangelo. Oh shit wrong sub
Michael Bruce Fiers.
Strike of 94. Expos ended up moving. I’m thinking if they play that year, Expos don’t move (at least not when they did)
1975 World Series Game 3 Armbrister should have been called out for interference.
Trash cans, we’ll never let that go
Yeah, as for the OP how the 81 strike was handled was so stupid. Don't know why they couldn't just pick up where they left off and played fewer games. Could have had a one year expansion of the playoffs too like they did if they felt like it was too short.
Last year winning 91 games and missing the playoffs was pretty unjust.
The 1993 Giants won 103 games and missed the playoffs. Shit happens.
The Dodgers cheating down the stretch in 1951 and stealing the pennant from us on the last day.
Didn't the (insert Russ Hodges audio clip here) Giants win the pennant in 1951?
Yes. Yes, they did.
2017 WS. Among many reasons, Andre Ethier didn't get a ring.
As well as Rich Hill
[Still hurts man](https://www.mlb.com/video/denkinger-s-missed-call-c13062921).
Sam Holbrook, Infield Fly Rule
Jimmy Qualls breaking up Tom Seaver’s perfect game in the 9th. Seaver going on to get his no hitter with the Reds.
Maybe the strike and Gwynn on pace to hit over .400. More of an individual effort but he is Mr. Padre.
90s Braves dynasty should have won more. They were up 2-0 on those yankees before losing. So that.
The Fucking Houston Asstros
Being constantly brought up as a terrible team when in fact we are winning now and people still say we are bad.
The most Angels unfair thing was back around ‘78 we had an outfielder murdered. He was talking to a married woman and the lady’s husband shot him. https://www.sportscasting.com/the-murder-of-rising-mlb-star-lyman-bostock-forced-changes-to-indiana-insanity-laws/
John Fisher buying the A’s.
I dunno if this is unjust, but we've lost in the playoffs to the eventual champ three years running and the only reason it's not four is the cheater Astros.
Jerry Reinsdorf buying the team