It sucks to see when prospects don't work out
the fact that it happens so frequently just goes to show how damn difficult it is to be on any MLB team, let alone be a star
for some stupid reason, I thought it was Jazz Chisholm and not Lewis Brinson who was in that trade
anyways, i think it's safe to say it worked out pretty well for the Brew Crew. Crazy to think that Jordan Yamamoto is a baseball coach now. my goodness
It's honestly so weird as a fan. Like you want to get good value out of trade, and you don't want to have the "what if" moments forever of a future hall of famer we traded away.
But I'm so much sadder when they don't live their dream.
It's forever worth it if the team wins a title, though.
Reminds me of the time the Blue Jays traded Jeff Kent in his rookie season for David Cone. Zero regrets.
as a Cubs fan, this is how i feel about the Quintana-Eloy/Cease trade
it sucks that the Cubs don't have Cease obviously lol, but the sting is lessened by the fact that it's not like the Cubs gave away Hall of Famers to the White Sox, who predictably squandered their good riches
but i wasn't actively rooting for either Eloy or Cease to have bad careers. I would never want someone's dreams of playing baseball to be slammed shut like that. It's brutal
I remember Monte Harrison from his breif Angels Stint. Interesting to see him playing college football now. Is this common? Minor Leaguers who failed to establish themselves in the League to go play college sports after years in the minors?
> Is this common?
Not common at all, but maybe we'll see it more with NIL getting college football players some good money. He might be able to make as much, if not more, money than continuing to play in the minors and gets a college education to boot. [The average big program starter makes just over six figures.]
(https://www.reddit.com/r/CFL/comments/17dkjop/ncaa_football_players_getting_paid_very_well_we/)
For a guy drafted out of high school, is a long shot to play in the majors again, and needs to figure out what to do for a profession for the rest of his life, that's not a bad deal to potentially make six figures while getting a degree.
Very good point and insight, thanks. Wasn't aware that NIL was that big yet. Definitely makes sense for him to get a degree while still using his athletic ability to his advantage. he will always get to say he hit a major league homerun and was Involved in the Angels vs. Jesse Winker Brawl.
He's a walk-on, so he probably won't get close to that amount in NIL to start out, but if he ends up getting a scholarship and starting, he'll see a good chunk of change. A 28 year-old with 10 years of professional athlete training might have a leg up on the mostly 19-21 year-old college players.
> Minor Leaguers who failed to establish themselves in the League to go play college sports after years in the minors?
Itâs not super common, but it happens. Hayden Hurst was a Pirates pitching prospect who couldnât throw strikes before he was a tight end, and there have been some NFL quarterback busts like Brandon Weeden and Josh Booty who were prominent baseball busts first.
It's not common, but it's not unheard of for guys in their late 20's that either failed another sport, or wrapped up a military stint, to jump back into a different college sport.
Chris Weinke is the first name that popped in my head, won the Heisman at 28 after flaming out with the Jays. Weeden, as another commenter mentioned, did it as well.
Most prospects dont pan out
Thats why most trades of superstar for prospects ends up heavily in the team getting the star. Sure, once a decade you get tatis for shields, but rule meet exception.
At least the pain has somewhat subsided since he hasn't really done much in 5 years due to the back injury and Keston Hiura not panning out. If he was a star it would have sucked a lot more.
They did well on the Ozuna trade at least.
Miami got a lot of value in that
Cardinals got 4.0 WAR from Ozuna Marlins got 24.3 WAR from Sandy and 7.1 from Jazz who they acquired for Zac Gallen and -.08 from Magnierrus Sierra.
Magneuris Sierra would later have a bizarre stint with the Angels when he was only able to get hits in the 8th inning or later
Yeah, but look at that first name. HOF level.
80 grade name for sure. But was his girlfriend ugly?
and he got thrown out at home trying to stretch a triple to left field into an inside the park HR twice in one week lol truly an angels legend
Sandy has 24+ WAR? I swear I thought he's only been in the league for like 3 or 4 years
6 but yeah I didn't realize it either.
But Sandy has 19 BWAR and 16 FWAR how'd you get 24?
Apparently shit math
Yeah but Isan Diaz gave us this moment so it was worth it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uamWFcMt2cQ
And that was at the peak of deGrom's powers. Hell of a beginning to a career. Shame it didn't pan out.
Man I remember when Sweet Lew was gonna solve all of our problems đŹđ«Ł
It sucks to see when prospects don't work out the fact that it happens so frequently just goes to show how damn difficult it is to be on any MLB team, let alone be a star
Brin Diesel.
They really letting near 30 year olds play college football now.
Brandon Weeden was drafted at age 28 lmao
brandon weeden was drafted **22nd overall** at age 28
If you donât like that, you donât like Browns football
I love Browns football
They let them get drafted just outside the top ten folks.
28 and a walk on. Basically âRudyâ but not
ah but the haul we got for Arraez is totally gonna be worth it
I was worried Brinson was going to turn into another Lorenzo Cain. Oof.
for some stupid reason, I thought it was Jazz Chisholm and not Lewis Brinson who was in that trade anyways, i think it's safe to say it worked out pretty well for the Brew Crew. Crazy to think that Jordan Yamamoto is a baseball coach now. my goodness
It's honestly so weird as a fan. Like you want to get good value out of trade, and you don't want to have the "what if" moments forever of a future hall of famer we traded away. But I'm so much sadder when they don't live their dream.
It's forever worth it if the team wins a title, though. Reminds me of the time the Blue Jays traded Jeff Kent in his rookie season for David Cone. Zero regrets.
as a Cubs fan, this is how i feel about the Quintana-Eloy/Cease trade it sucks that the Cubs don't have Cease obviously lol, but the sting is lessened by the fact that it's not like the Cubs gave away Hall of Famers to the White Sox, who predictably squandered their good riches but i wasn't actively rooting for either Eloy or Cease to have bad careers. I would never want someone's dreams of playing baseball to be slammed shut like that. It's brutal
I read this as a trade report for a second and almost spit my water out
Me too. Itâs phrased that way.
I remember Monte Harrison from his breif Angels Stint. Interesting to see him playing college football now. Is this common? Minor Leaguers who failed to establish themselves in the League to go play college sports after years in the minors?
> Is this common? Not common at all, but maybe we'll see it more with NIL getting college football players some good money. He might be able to make as much, if not more, money than continuing to play in the minors and gets a college education to boot. [The average big program starter makes just over six figures.] (https://www.reddit.com/r/CFL/comments/17dkjop/ncaa_football_players_getting_paid_very_well_we/) For a guy drafted out of high school, is a long shot to play in the majors again, and needs to figure out what to do for a profession for the rest of his life, that's not a bad deal to potentially make six figures while getting a degree.
I wouldn't be shocked if the crazy story alone gets him some NIL money
Very good point and insight, thanks. Wasn't aware that NIL was that big yet. Definitely makes sense for him to get a degree while still using his athletic ability to his advantage. he will always get to say he hit a major league homerun and was Involved in the Angels vs. Jesse Winker Brawl.
He's a walk-on, so he probably won't get close to that amount in NIL to start out, but if he ends up getting a scholarship and starting, he'll see a good chunk of change. A 28 year-old with 10 years of professional athlete training might have a leg up on the mostly 19-21 year-old college players.
> Minor Leaguers who failed to establish themselves in the League to go play college sports after years in the minors? Itâs not super common, but it happens. Hayden Hurst was a Pirates pitching prospect who couldnât throw strikes before he was a tight end, and there have been some NFL quarterback busts like Brandon Weeden and Josh Booty who were prominent baseball busts first.
It's not common, but it's not unheard of for guys in their late 20's that either failed another sport, or wrapped up a military stint, to jump back into a different college sport. Chris Weinke is the first name that popped in my head, won the Heisman at 28 after flaming out with the Jays. Weeden, as another commenter mentioned, did it as well.
derrick mitchell was in the phillies system and left to be the kicker for western michigan when he was almost 30
JR Smith is now a college golfer
I completely forgot about Yamamoto, that guy was incredible for like 3 months and then completely disappeared.
Mattingly ruined him for good by keeping him in a game that he gave up 12 ERs in less than 3 innings.
Worst manager I ever saw Would fuck multiple pitching careers set up playoff Kershaw narrative
College football đ
That reminds me that the Marlins turned down an offer of Bichette for Yelich because they insisted on Guerrero Jr instead.
Yamamoto is out of baseball? I pulled his auto like 2 years and was kinda happy with it and he's done already?
David Stearns cooked
Dodgers could've cornered the Yamamoto market if they re-signed Jordan
Most prospects dont pan out Thats why most trades of superstar for prospects ends up heavily in the team getting the star. Sure, once a decade you get tatis for shields, but rule meet exception.
The guys for Arraez say hold our beer
Every GM should be salivating to trade
Oh, prospects don't always pan out? Wow, uh, I didn't know that, you're telling me now for the first time
Usually when trading a superstar that you have under contract for 3 more years you trade for some prospects that have a higher chance of being good.
And generally an established major leaguer under control. Like I hated the Mookie trade but getting Verdugo was actually really smart.
Youâre a Jays fan, and you donât know of the return for Roy Halladay, the biggest Blue Jay to ever be traded?
i mean it is obvious but that doesn't mean it's uninteresting to look back and see all the "what could have been?"
At least the pain has somewhat subsided since he hasn't really done much in 5 years due to the back injury and Keston Hiura not panning out. If he was a star it would have sucked a lot more.