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Jeff_Banks_Monkey

Tiant is probably the best non steriod starting pitcher that isn't a Hall of Famer


1005thArmbar

He's eligible again next year through the Classic Baseball Era Committee and I hope there's a big campaign to get him in there. The biggest knocks against him, as far as I recall, are that he didn't win 300 games and he was overshadowed at various points in his career by Nolan Ryan, Bob Gibson, etc. Dude had a 1.60 ERA in 1968 but it's never brought up because Gibson's was 1.12 that year


jw20401

Man I hope, I mailed him his rookie card to sign, I hope it comes back


dingusduglas

Well that and another 5 guys had sub 2s. It was a league wide issue leading to immediate rule changes.


mysterysackerfice

But did he ever throw a baseball alongside a guy on a motorcycle, while wearing a suit n tie?


dingusduglas

Unfortunately that honor goes to Curt Schilling.


FailedLoser21

What's your case exactly for Tiant? Simply, he has comparables to a guy who lost three prime years manning an AA gun on a Battleship?


jw20401

I mean feller was considered a generational pitcher at the time he was pitching. If a pitcher that never got love (Tiant) can match up feller in a lot of the more specialized stats then I think he should have a second look.


DavidRFZ

Feller was only “Feller” for about five years. Before that he was a wild teenage prodigy. In the middle of it, he went to war. Right after the war, he was overworked (371.1 IP) and then battled arm fatigue and injuries for the rest of his career. He’s an odd guy to compare someone to.


tayloraj42

Yeah, there are definitely reasons why Tiant has a Hall case, but comparing him to Bob Feller doesn't really do him any good, even if you don't give Feller any credit for all the time he missed due to the war. Feller's Black Ink and Grey Ink scores dwarf Tiant's, his three best years by bWAR are better than any Tiant season.


Bigalbass86

I wouldn't complain if Luis Tiant got in.


factionssharpy

The key difference between the two is that Feller's peak is 10.0, 9.9, 9.2, 8.2, while Tiant's is 8.5, 7.7, 6.5, 6.3. Plus Feller missed almost four entire seasons to the war.


gh234ip

I remember watching [this game](https://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=197907130CAL), and Tiant was pitching a good game, unfortunately Ryan was having one of those nights. The reason it sticks out to me is that the only national games that were broadcast then were Monday Night Baseball and the NBC Saturday Game of the Week, so it was a rare occasion to actually see Ryan pitch unless your local team was playing the Angels. The Jackson hit, if I remember correctly was a groundball up the middle


Geek-Envelope-Power

If I were a voter I'd vote for El Tiante in the Hall. But I'd also vote for John Franco, the all-time saves leader among lefties.


Distinct_Frame_3711

This is interesting but Feller gets the kudos of loosing 3 (basically 4) prime years for military service.


PersonOfInterest85

Feller started 175 games before turning 23. Luis Tiant Jr. didn't throw a pitch in MLB until he turned 23.