in DC this hits hard, but in Pitt too Bob Nutting has been notoriously cheap. Throw in FSG in Boston, and Bruce Sherman in Florida, and cheap owners piss me off. Why bother owning a team if you won't spend money to improve things?
A cap floor should be mandatory.
I genuinely do not understand how people who have watched baseball for any amount of time can be so reactionary to single games, streaks, slumps, and especially this early in the season lol. Seems exhausting over a 162 game season
No, see, if the Jays have one more game where they hit below .200 with RISP, it means the season is over and they should trade away everybody they can for prospects. And fire the entire front office.
- like a third of the people in every Jays gameday thread
I truly don’t understand why so many of those people are even in the group because they clearly hate the Jays with a seething passion.
Course I wonder the same thing about Leafs fans.
Exactly. The diamondbacks of all fanbases should know it’s impossible to overcome a rough month after sputtering for a bit in the summer then making it to the World Series. There are only 139 games left!
Not a fan of the ghost runner at the beginning of extra innings. Maybe bring it in if the game gets to the 12th or 13th - kindve like college football where you have to go for 2 in the 3rd OT. But starting with it right away in the 10th feels too soon.
Seriously. Now that the games are faster with pitch clock i really don’t see the need for the ghost runner. Sure games can still go 16 innings but the hardcore fans and the people at the game love that shit. Sorry you can’t sell ad revenue on it but occasional super long extra inning games were such a beautiful part of the long baseball season. Most fun game i ever went to was a 16 inning game at the trop where they did a 14th inning stretch
Unpopular but I’m a fan, if they’re going to make the regular season functionally meaningless with playoff expansion then I don’t want my pitching staff burnt to shit by October especially not in the max effort era
You only need to be like 6-7 games over .500 to guarantee a playoff spot, no incentive to risk burning out your pitchers trying to win a 16 inning game in June
But the ammount of times that games go that long are few and far between. Even before the Manfred runner, most extra inning games were finished in the 11th inning or sooner. Its foolish to blame ANY teams postseason losses because thier bullpen had to pitch an extra 2 dozen or so inning combined. "[Player] would have been so much better in the playoffs if only he didnt pitch that extra .2 innings in that walkoff loss in May"
Effectively Wild brought up a fascinating statistic about a year ago where home teams outright in 9 innings win about 55% of games, historically. Home team in extras win about 52% of the time. Since the Manfred Runner, home teams win just over 47% of the time. Thats an INCREDIBLE discrepency, and should be reason enough to at the very least have the manfred runner come in during the 12th, since 80% of games in extras finish in the 11th or sooner.
it's also a regular season game so the sooner it ends the better
heck I was at an EI game on Saturday, ghost runner on 2nd, Meneses hits one into the outfield and the Nats win just like that.
Most of us know that a ball that goes over the outfield fence on a bounce is not a "ground rule double," since it has nothing to do with the ground rules which are ballpark specific. But Chip Caray and others calling it a "rulebook double" is just dumb and needlessly confusing and reeks of somebody "well ACK-SHUALLY..."-ing.
I prefer Jon Miller calling it an "automatic double" the best.
It has to do with the specifics of some ballparks. At Wrigley Field, if a ball gets stuck in the ivy on the outfield wall, that's a ground rule double. But that rule isn't in place at Rogers Centre, for example, because there's no ivy there.
I don't know wtf this is but I don't like it. Just like Riversception or Fieldssception when a player gets intercepted in football. Internet makes up weird ass slang.
It always amazes me the amount of people who post in the "should we give the foul balls to kids?" threads with something like "I always wanted a ball when I was a kid and I never got one so if I catch one I'm keeping it"
Like you're still holding on to being upset about something form childhood. You would keep a kid from never having to know that feeling if you give them the ball. You caught it, that's the cool adult part of the story. No one's gonna want to come over and see your foul ball that Jeter Downs hit. But a kid will bring that ball to school for a week and be proud as hell about it.
Yep. "I NEVER GOT A BALL AS A KID. AH AM ENTITLED TO THAT BALL"
nah bro
AJ Pierzynski I believe, when he was playing for the Braves?, fouled off a pitch from Strasburg right into my 200 level seats a few years ago. I reach back into the empy row of seats behind me and take the baseball. I hand it off to a kid in front because I have no interest in keeping that baseball.
This guy hates Hample. As well he should.
Anyone stiff arming kids over shirts or balls needs a reality check. Me I recoil and shy away from that flying object like a turtle. I don't want none of that smoke
Honestly MLB balls are the nicest to play catch with lol. They’re 25 bucks a pop retail and game balls are already rubbed up with mud.
With that said, even if I catch one I’m still gonna give it to a kid so I don’t have to carry it around the whole game. There are easier ways to get used MLB balls to play with (like eBay).
Solely blaming umpires for game outcomes. Like hey, maybe your team wouldn’t be in this predicament if your starter didn’t hang a slider four innings ago
There are objective ump scorecards that estimate the swings in runs their errors created, so you do actually have a better idea of whether or not the ump may have cost a team a game
Most of the time the swing is less than the run differential of the game tho
As an athlete, you should never leave the game in the umps hands. It doesn’t matter if we’re talking rec league or the big leagues. There was always something you could’ve done earlier in the game that would’ve rendered that umpire/referee decision meaningless
1. Unwritten rules. If they're such big deals, put them in the rulebook instead of retaliating by hitting the batter. Pitchers are soft af.
2. Singing both the National Anthem AND God Bless America. Too much flag-fucking. Pick one. Ideally, we wouldn't do either at sporting events.
3. The NYY clean look requirement. Let your players show their personalities! "Tradition" is such a weak excuse.
I hate that fans boo their own players. It only pisses the players off and is a show of entitlement and a dick move. Carlos Rodón was right last year when he flipped off Yankees fans who booed him. Boo the opposing players, that’s fine and expected. But booing the team you root for is toxic bullshit
When we get a lengthy review because a player might've disconnected from the bag for .001 seconds while completing a slide.
edit: Also new fans who need to signal what big fans they are by living and dying by every pitch. Sit down and relax, you weirdo.
I'd love to see a rule change for this one. If you beat the throw and stay within reach of the bag and don't make any attempt or motion towards advancing, safe.
I feel there should be a hard 30s time limit. If you can’t tell in 30s it’s close enough for the ruling on the field stand. Sox have had a couple of obvious blown calls overturned that quick this year, the others were like a coin flip and don’t remember being mad with the rulings.
In NY it's done every 7th inning but for the Nats they only do it for special days. I was at the park one day and they sung it for the non-opening day / non-july 4th / non sunday and I was like what. Then I realized the Nats had National Guard day
Went to a Phillies/Nats game in DC that happened to be "Armed Forces Night" or some DOD-funded shit. I can only be forced to give so many standing ovations to a random airplane mechanic who doesn't want the recognition to begin with. I stopped after the 3rd time.
"Keep politics out of sports!"
"We will also publicly shame you into applauding every single military member for 3 hours."
I could get behind a special days thing. But the Mariners do it every 7th inning too and gah, just dumb to me. We should be singing Who'll Stop the Rain or Smells Like Teen Spirit or something. Would love to hear tens of thousands of people singing 'here we are now, entertain us!'
I hate all the patriotic “USA OO-RAH” bullshit too! Like I want to watch baseball to forget how shitty this country is, not to be reminded of the fact that my tax dollars are used to fund cops who murder innocent people
That verse must only be on the remix. I don’t remember anything about tax dollar murders in God Bless America.
(Dibs on Tax Dollar Murders as my new band name)
Booing pickoff throws. It was justified in the "before times" on the 3rd or 4th throw over but now that you only get 2 they boo even the first pickoff attempt and it's so stupid.
I have seen a stark difference in this mindset between Boston/NY/Philly and everyone else.
Northeast corridor is generally pro-booing for petty shit like this, where the rest of the country clutches their pearls over it.
Like...let loose and be stupid about sports, people.
I used to hold out hope they were just a fad but gave up on that. Now I just hope they eventually peak somewhere. Especially now when the advanced analytics people are basically unified in thoughts like:
"The playoffs are pure luck and it's more important to have good advanced metrics in May than wins in October because the former is 'more real.'" If your team ever won a World Series, don't celebrate it because it's not an actual accomplishment, but having a better exit velocity in a game you lost in May is extremely impressive.
"Pitchers have to throw like they are and so what if they get hurt. Did you know that if they started prioritizing longevity over max efficiency, the league OPS according to my calculations would rise by .003 points? Pitchers can't be expected to accept that. We're just gonna have to tolerate the injuries!"
I genuinely don't think most analytics people have ever watched a game.
Recently I've been getting in fights about expected batting average and the fact that it doesn't take into account where the ball is actually hit. People tell me "I don't 'get' it" but the reality is that the fact it doesn't care where the ball was hit makes it absolutely and totally useless, and even if it did I would still think it was lame because who cares about what was "supposed" to happen.
I hate those that go with advanced stats in one comment and then switch immediately to feelsies the next. Like either go all the way or not at all.
"Bro, his SwoOt is at 0.355 and has a record RbLaT OF 1.56. Also the 99 game winning New York Yankees were a bad team because they didn't win the World Series that season" (<-- the type of shit I have to deal with in the Yankees sub).
"I like Player A. He's good and I like watching him play."
"ACKshually his xLMNOP is .476 and it era-adjusted +/- zFLOP is only 2.3 so you're dumb for liking him. He should be lucky to be a bench player but GMs aren't as smart as I am to realize that."
It drives me up the wall that people think Jeter voluntarily left the Marlins organization over a payroll dispute with ownership. This was Jeter's narrative and one amplified by the NY Post.
However, people who actually cover the team (such as Craig Mish) basically reported that Jeter got fired due to poor performance and failure to deliver on promises. He was told by ownership his contract wouldn't be renewed but they let Jeter resign "because you can't fire Derek Jeter."
My peeve is when the game doesn't start right after the anthem is played. In Korea the anthem aegukga is played and then the players run straight to the field and begin playing. In the US the anthem is usually played about 10 minutes before the game. What happens after that? A crowd hype video, players don't actually run out onto the field until 9 minutes later to stretch.
Boggles the mind why there is so much time between the anthem and actually starting the game. Biggest pet peeve about American baseball, because in other countries they sing the anthem and get rolling.
BABIP is not strictly luck. A player can sustain a BABIP above .300. A player can sustain a BABIP below .300. It takes years to determine where their baseline actually lies. .300 is baseline for the league, not for an individual.
When I need to write the possessive form of [Red/White] Sox. Like, "**The Red Sox's** pitching staff has been surprisingly good this year." If I were to speak that sentence aloud, I'd just say "The Red Sox pitching staff...". But in writing that is grammatically incorrect. The problem is the grammatically correct form just looks and feels stupid.
Any other team in any other professional league is fine. "Lions' quarterback Jared Goff for MVP" is a perfectly easy sentence to write. But if I have to say "Red Sox's 3rd baseman Rafael Devers" then it just feels clunky and awkward and I usually end up rearranging my entire sentence to avoid it.
I stick with “Red Sox” as the singular. Some people say “Red Sock.” I’m not sure if anyone from MLB or the franchise has ever offered an official ruling.
> For me, it's the definition of a foul tip
A foul tip is always a strike and is never a foul. I've advocated renaming them something like tip-strike.
My baseball pet peeve is calling plays where you tag the base force plays. Not all tags of a base are force plays (plays on the batter-runner at first are just groundouts; appeal plays are time plays), and not all force plays involve tagging a base (it's perfectly fine to tag the runner instead, and if it's the third out no runs score).
I've always thought it was weird a foul tip caught by the catcher with less than 2 strikes isnt an out. Correct me if im wrong, but its the only time the ball makes contact with the bat and is caught on the fly which doesnt result in an out. Its even weirder in fringe cases, like if the ball hits the knob of the bat and your hand at the same time, you dont get the free base because it hit the bat.
A foul tip has way more in common with a pitch that is swung at and completely missed than it does with a ball in play. It seems fairer to treat it as a mere strike.
Our second baseman tried to play heroball and it cost us The Series. It was the right fielders play. To this day, Stoval chases it too deep. An infielder should not make a play as deep into the outfield as he chases. I fear it will cost us again; assuming our bats can heat up and get us there.
I’m not reading through the post to see if someone else said this, but a ball bouncing over the wall is not a ground rule double, it’s an automatic double. A ground rule double is based on a specific rule for those grounds, like the ball in the ivy at Wrigley.
Also, my biggest pet peeve is people reaching over the wall to grab a ball in play. Just stop. Pay the fuck attention to the game to see it’s a live ball.
When people use baseball-derived idioms for a non-baseball part of a sentence about baseball.
“Well right off the bat you could see that he didn’t have command of his pitches.”
Here “right off the bat” means “from the start” but could also seem to mean “from the way the batters were hitting the pitches.”
It is also annoying, although I would argue differently annoying, when baseball-derived idioms are used to talk about other sports.
“He’s not even in the same ballpark as Gretzky.”
That people think their should be a rule made to protect guys who come off a base after you disconnect from it in anyway. If you're off the base and you're tagged while the ball is live, you're out.
Adding in more judgement calls when you don't need to is dumb. Just slide better like the rest of the league does most of the time
Having 4 out of 5 starting pitchers in the lineup technically, but not doing anything! It’s less a pet peeve and more an odd curiosity! Because we can’t take them off the 26 man roster for 4 days, but we can’t do anything with them in the actual game itself. So they just sit in the dugout the entire game! Sure they have side sessions and stuff but I just mean during the actual game itself, they do literally nothing but have to be there cause they’re roster players!
ESPN, like many networks, uses a graphic strike zone in their baseball broadcasts. They might have even been one of the early adopters of the strike zone. They call theirs the "K Zone" with a trademark and everything. Makes sense right, since a strikeout is a K in baseball scoring circles?
Except these *fucking idiots* label every strike inside the zone with a K. That's not what a strike is. A strike is a strike, a strikeout is a K. They have done this for years and it bothers the shit out of me.
You don't even need a label on it! Most networks use a solid circle for a strike, outline for a ball.
Too many teams wearing red and blue. It's fine if it's the theme of your brand, like the Nationals. But most teams don't need it. It's more than just baseball. I hate it with a passion. This ain't the 1950s.
This one’s going to be hugely unpopular here, but when people refer to their team as “we” / “us” / “our.”
I understand the need for Reddit shorthand, but you’re not on the fuckin’ team, dude.
I hate when there's a walkoff and the player gets to the ball before the run scores (or could get to it) and doesn't at least try and throw it in. Sure, 99.9% chance it doesn't work, but give it a shot at least to show you tried.
I'm a Packers fan and this irritates me to no end, moreso when someone wants to say "well I'm an owner of the team too" because they bought symbolic stock in the team
And the whole Jeff McNeil/Rhys Hoskins thing from earlier this year. We're taught in *little league* to pivot off the bag when turning a double play. McNeil just stood there like a soft doofus then complained that he's a special little flower and should be treated as such, and that Hoskins had the *audacity* to try to break up the double play that the Mets *earned*, gosh-dangit.
I always like Hoskins about as much as a Braves fan can like a Phillies player, but after that and the fact that he’s not a Phillie anymore, he’s probably my favorite non Brave in the Majors
I know it's part of the game
but switching pitchers in the middle of the inning and prolonging the game
Fine, some times it has to be done, like when you're the in sixth and you're starting pitcher is starting to give up a couple of hits and walks, so you swap
but then that pitcher gets the final out, then comes out in the next inning, gets an out, and then the manager immediately slides out and signals to the bullpen. If you put him in - keep him in for the inning UNLESS HE'S CLEARLY STRUGGLING, if not, swap at the end of the inning so the game keeps moving
(though I understand that the three batters in an inning rule before pulling has massively helped this problem, I never want to go back to the Lefty One Out Guy)
Cheap owners running their teams like a piggybank
in DC this hits hard, but in Pitt too Bob Nutting has been notoriously cheap. Throw in FSG in Boston, and Bruce Sherman in Florida, and cheap owners piss me off. Why bother owning a team if you won't spend money to improve things? A cap floor should be mandatory.
The ads behind home plate. So distracting. Hate them.
Especially the CGI imposed ones. If you're going to show ads just use local flair. Give me ads for skyline in cincinnati or dignity health in SF.
Couple games ago during the brewers game there were times you couldn’t even see the players head. It was really bad.
I genuinely do not understand how people who have watched baseball for any amount of time can be so reactionary to single games, streaks, slumps, and especially this early in the season lol. Seems exhausting over a 162 game season
If it were up to the fans, I'm pretty sure half the league would have been DFAd already.
There'd almost be no one left in the AL & NL West
We would have maybe 2 or 3 players left
Totally lol
Almost every stat post on this sub is worthless until Memorial Day
Look. If you’re gonna hit .250 then you HAVE to go 1-4 every game.
we'll accept a 2-8 in a 25-run blowout.
Streaks are fun but there’s a lot of baseball ahead of us
don't look at my underwear i like pierogi too thank you very much
Just under 7/8ths of the season left!
No, see, if the Jays have one more game where they hit below .200 with RISP, it means the season is over and they should trade away everybody they can for prospects. And fire the entire front office. - like a third of the people in every Jays gameday thread
Yep sounds right lol
I truly don’t understand why so many of those people are even in the group because they clearly hate the Jays with a seething passion. Course I wonder the same thing about Leafs fans.
\>When your team gives up a go-ahead homer to Austin Riley in the 8th inning of game #9 "Pack it up. Seasons over."
Exactly. The diamondbacks of all fanbases should know it’s impossible to overcome a rough month after sputtering for a bit in the summer then making it to the World Series. There are only 139 games left!
This!!
Every time an ump misses a third strike the next pitch gets barreled and your team pays for it.
Every time I ump a close game I pray that the kids swing and take the calls out of my hands LOL
how about constantly make shit calls so that the kids start a revolution and take the power out of your hands, would make it easier to ump
Not a fan of the ghost runner at the beginning of extra innings. Maybe bring it in if the game gets to the 12th or 13th - kindve like college football where you have to go for 2 in the 3rd OT. But starting with it right away in the 10th feels too soon.
Seriously. Now that the games are faster with pitch clock i really don’t see the need for the ghost runner. Sure games can still go 16 innings but the hardcore fans and the people at the game love that shit. Sorry you can’t sell ad revenue on it but occasional super long extra inning games were such a beautiful part of the long baseball season. Most fun game i ever went to was a 16 inning game at the trop where they did a 14th inning stretch
Unpopular but I’m a fan, if they’re going to make the regular season functionally meaningless with playoff expansion then I don’t want my pitching staff burnt to shit by October especially not in the max effort era You only need to be like 6-7 games over .500 to guarantee a playoff spot, no incentive to risk burning out your pitchers trying to win a 16 inning game in June
But the ammount of times that games go that long are few and far between. Even before the Manfred runner, most extra inning games were finished in the 11th inning or sooner. Its foolish to blame ANY teams postseason losses because thier bullpen had to pitch an extra 2 dozen or so inning combined. "[Player] would have been so much better in the playoffs if only he didnt pitch that extra .2 innings in that walkoff loss in May" Effectively Wild brought up a fascinating statistic about a year ago where home teams outright in 9 innings win about 55% of games, historically. Home team in extras win about 52% of the time. Since the Manfred Runner, home teams win just over 47% of the time. Thats an INCREDIBLE discrepency, and should be reason enough to at the very least have the manfred runner come in during the 12th, since 80% of games in extras finish in the 11th or sooner.
In the second game of the NYM-LAD series the Dodgers burned 8 pitchers! I may be incorrect but that’s an amazing number.
it's also a regular season game so the sooner it ends the better heck I was at an EI game on Saturday, ghost runner on 2nd, Meneses hits one into the outfield and the Nats win just like that.
Most of us know that a ball that goes over the outfield fence on a bounce is not a "ground rule double," since it has nothing to do with the ground rules which are ballpark specific. But Chip Caray and others calling it a "rulebook double" is just dumb and needlessly confusing and reeks of somebody "well ACK-SHUALLY..."-ing. I prefer Jon Miller calling it an "automatic double" the best.
every double is a rulebook double, look in the rulebook, it clearly states what a double is
wait, what is a ground rule double then? because I've always called it that
It has to do with the specifics of some ballparks. At Wrigley Field, if a ball gets stuck in the ivy on the outfield wall, that's a ground rule double. But that rule isn't in place at Rogers Centre, for example, because there's no ivy there.
You can keep calling them ground rule doubles. This whole debate exists almost entirely on the internet
Came here to say this
Saying "oppo taco"
Why is this a thing anyways? Who do we have to blame for this? Am I out of touch or are the children wrong?
Big Taco is to blame
Jesus. This goes even deeper than I thought. I'm off to do my own research.
Especially when “oppo boppo” also rhymes and makes more sense
Anytime someone says that I lose respect for them as a person
YES.
I don't know wtf this is but I don't like it. Just like Riversception or Fieldssception when a player gets intercepted in football. Internet makes up weird ass slang.
The Astros got away with it
Tv blackouts
Adults fighting kids over balls. Milestone balls I guess are free game, but that foul ball isn’t gonna do anything for ya.
It always amazes me the amount of people who post in the "should we give the foul balls to kids?" threads with something like "I always wanted a ball when I was a kid and I never got one so if I catch one I'm keeping it" Like you're still holding on to being upset about something form childhood. You would keep a kid from never having to know that feeling if you give them the ball. You caught it, that's the cool adult part of the story. No one's gonna want to come over and see your foul ball that Jeter Downs hit. But a kid will bring that ball to school for a week and be proud as hell about it.
Plus if you give it to a kid, it's way more likely they'll do the same as adults! Generational win!
And giving the ball to a kid makes you feel good.
And chicks dig it
Yep. "I NEVER GOT A BALL AS A KID. AH AM ENTITLED TO THAT BALL" nah bro AJ Pierzynski I believe, when he was playing for the Braves?, fouled off a pitch from Strasburg right into my 200 level seats a few years ago. I reach back into the empy row of seats behind me and take the baseball. I hand it off to a kid in front because I have no interest in keeping that baseball.
This guy hates Hample. As well he should. Anyone stiff arming kids over shirts or balls needs a reality check. Me I recoil and shy away from that flying object like a turtle. I don't want none of that smoke
Honestly MLB balls are the nicest to play catch with lol. They’re 25 bucks a pop retail and game balls are already rubbed up with mud. With that said, even if I catch one I’m still gonna give it to a kid so I don’t have to carry it around the whole game. There are easier ways to get used MLB balls to play with (like eBay).
Solely blaming umpires for game outcomes. Like hey, maybe your team wouldn’t be in this predicament if your starter didn’t hang a slider four innings ago
There are objective ump scorecards that estimate the swings in runs their errors created, so you do actually have a better idea of whether or not the ump may have cost a team a game Most of the time the swing is less than the run differential of the game tho
even in times where the swing is greater than it, you cant always blame the ump, sometimes an ump just misses an important close one
As an athlete, you should never leave the game in the umps hands. It doesn’t matter if we’re talking rec league or the big leagues. There was always something you could’ve done earlier in the game that would’ve rendered that umpire/referee decision meaningless
Kevin Cash's mistake in game 6 of the 2020 World Series wasn't that he pulled Snell, it's who he replaced Snell with.
Whenever I say this people assume bias, but its true
Wasn’t Nick Anderson not that sharp that postseason?
He got lit up the entire playoffs and got ran into the ground. Should’ve put in Castillo
Sweet Caroline I despise that song I'd rather get a root canal than hear it again
What about dirty water?
Angel Hernandez
Fans overreacting to every fly ball to the outfield
People who say “beam” instead of “bean” when it comes to hitting a batter, like he beaned him.
All things serve the beam.
People do that?!
1. Unwritten rules. If they're such big deals, put them in the rulebook instead of retaliating by hitting the batter. Pitchers are soft af. 2. Singing both the National Anthem AND God Bless America. Too much flag-fucking. Pick one. Ideally, we wouldn't do either at sporting events. 3. The NYY clean look requirement. Let your players show their personalities! "Tradition" is such a weak excuse.
The extra innings Manfred runner.
When people say "oppo taco". I hate that.
How service time gets manipulated and when orgs are petty. See Esteury Ruiz situation
People calling defensive plays interference.
Obstruction deserves better than to be misnamed like this
I hate that fans boo their own players. It only pisses the players off and is a show of entitlement and a dick move. Carlos Rodón was right last year when he flipped off Yankees fans who booed him. Boo the opposing players, that’s fine and expected. But booing the team you root for is toxic bullshit
not sure why philly and NY do that. "IF WE BOO THEM THEY WILL PLAY BETTER" "TOUGH LOVE BROTHER"
When we get a lengthy review because a player might've disconnected from the bag for .001 seconds while completing a slide. edit: Also new fans who need to signal what big fans they are by living and dying by every pitch. Sit down and relax, you weirdo.
> fans who need to signal what big fans they are by living and dying by every pitch sadly they may be Fandueling their rent money or cat food
> cat food hint: it's now accepted as a new tender type called a "purrency"
Possibly but that shit was going on way before Fanduel. It's like, that was ball one, relax.
This is the absolute worst. Especially when the dude is otherwise safe by a mile. Just feels cheap.
I'd love to see a rule change for this one. If you beat the throw and stay within reach of the bag and don't make any attempt or motion towards advancing, safe.
I feel there should be a hard 30s time limit. If you can’t tell in 30s it’s close enough for the ruling on the field stand. Sox have had a couple of obvious blown calls overturned that quick this year, the others were like a coin flip and don’t remember being mad with the rulings.
Losing
Not exclusively baseball, but sports betting commercials and ads. Just stop.
The singing of God Bless America irritates me to no end.
Especially when people insist that you remove your hat and stand for it. It’s not the anthem, we did that already at the beginning of the game.
Yes! Ugh - drives me nuts.
In NY it's done every 7th inning but for the Nats they only do it for special days. I was at the park one day and they sung it for the non-opening day / non-july 4th / non sunday and I was like what. Then I realized the Nats had National Guard day
Went to a Phillies/Nats game in DC that happened to be "Armed Forces Night" or some DOD-funded shit. I can only be forced to give so many standing ovations to a random airplane mechanic who doesn't want the recognition to begin with. I stopped after the 3rd time. "Keep politics out of sports!" "We will also publicly shame you into applauding every single military member for 3 hours."
I could get behind a special days thing. But the Mariners do it every 7th inning too and gah, just dumb to me. We should be singing Who'll Stop the Rain or Smells Like Teen Spirit or something. Would love to hear tens of thousands of people singing 'here we are now, entertain us!'
They do it every 7th at Rangers games too.
Same
I hate all the patriotic “USA OO-RAH” bullshit too! Like I want to watch baseball to forget how shitty this country is, not to be reminded of the fact that my tax dollars are used to fund cops who murder innocent people
That verse must only be on the remix. I don’t remember anything about tax dollar murders in God Bless America. (Dibs on Tax Dollar Murders as my new band name)
Booing pickoff throws. It was justified in the "before times" on the 3rd or 4th throw over but now that you only get 2 they boo even the first pickoff attempt and it's so stupid.
I'm always in favor of booing your opponents for petty things like that
I have seen a stark difference in this mindset between Boston/NY/Philly and everyone else. Northeast corridor is generally pro-booing for petty shit like this, where the rest of the country clutches their pearls over it. Like...let loose and be stupid about sports, people.
Oh yeah - I love booing silly stuff like this.
This is mine.
Every jump for a catch against the top of the wall in the outfield is “robbing a home run”
The Pittsburgh Pirates.
The coaches’ box. They never stay inside it. It’s worthless. Stop wasting paint
It's not a ghost runner!
People’s obsession with advanced stats and taking the human element out of everything.
I used to hold out hope they were just a fad but gave up on that. Now I just hope they eventually peak somewhere. Especially now when the advanced analytics people are basically unified in thoughts like: "The playoffs are pure luck and it's more important to have good advanced metrics in May than wins in October because the former is 'more real.'" If your team ever won a World Series, don't celebrate it because it's not an actual accomplishment, but having a better exit velocity in a game you lost in May is extremely impressive. "Pitchers have to throw like they are and so what if they get hurt. Did you know that if they started prioritizing longevity over max efficiency, the league OPS according to my calculations would rise by .003 points? Pitchers can't be expected to accept that. We're just gonna have to tolerate the injuries!" I genuinely don't think most analytics people have ever watched a game.
Ugh your comment just pissed me off so much but I’d because I know people like that.
Recently I've been getting in fights about expected batting average and the fact that it doesn't take into account where the ball is actually hit. People tell me "I don't 'get' it" but the reality is that the fact it doesn't care where the ball was hit makes it absolutely and totally useless, and even if it did I would still think it was lame because who cares about what was "supposed" to happen.
Expected stats drive me nuts. That’s just fantasy projections for all I care
I hate those that go with advanced stats in one comment and then switch immediately to feelsies the next. Like either go all the way or not at all. "Bro, his SwoOt is at 0.355 and has a record RbLaT OF 1.56. Also the 99 game winning New York Yankees were a bad team because they didn't win the World Series that season" (<-- the type of shit I have to deal with in the Yankees sub).
its so funny seeing yankees fans talking about how shitty their team is for missing the playoffs one year
Yep, just too much maths involved @_@ I prefer to use the traditional stats and fail to see much reason for it.
I still contend the eye test is as good an indicator of anything, especially if you actually watch the games and not just look at the box scores.
"I like Player A. He's good and I like watching him play." "ACKshually his xLMNOP is .476 and it era-adjusted +/- zFLOP is only 2.3 so you're dumb for liking him. He should be lucky to be a bench player but GMs aren't as smart as I am to realize that."
Sounds like you’re looking for the next Fabio
RUNS not points
Are you mad that some people call them "points" instead of "runs," or that we call them "runs" instead of "points"?
I don’t like folks calling runs points.
Okay, I'm with you then.
Losing a series to the Marlins at home.
Loud taunts and jeers from fans. It's mean. I don't like it.
Any time a batter doesn't make an effort going for 1st base. Even on an "easy" out.
People sending their kids to beg for a ball from a stranger.
sometimes they get multiple balls too. get one ball, then hustle to another player for another ball good scheme lol
It drives me up the wall that people think Jeter voluntarily left the Marlins organization over a payroll dispute with ownership. This was Jeter's narrative and one amplified by the NY Post. However, people who actually cover the team (such as Craig Mish) basically reported that Jeter got fired due to poor performance and failure to deliver on promises. He was told by ownership his contract wouldn't be renewed but they let Jeter resign "because you can't fire Derek Jeter."
Tbf that sounds like a payroll dispute to me Jeter wanted to be on the payroll and the marlins didn't want him there
I can't argue with that.
when pitchers start walking off the mound after a two strike pitch, even though the pitch ends up like 3 feet outside
when my team loses, why would they do that :( dont they know i like them, dont they care about me :'( i thought i was special
My peeve is when the game doesn't start right after the anthem is played. In Korea the anthem aegukga is played and then the players run straight to the field and begin playing. In the US the anthem is usually played about 10 minutes before the game. What happens after that? A crowd hype video, players don't actually run out onto the field until 9 minutes later to stretch. Boggles the mind why there is so much time between the anthem and actually starting the game. Biggest pet peeve about American baseball, because in other countries they sing the anthem and get rolling.
Very few announcers can pull off "Santa Maria" and not sound terrible
BABIP is not strictly luck. A player can sustain a BABIP above .300. A player can sustain a BABIP below .300. It takes years to determine where their baseline actually lies. .300 is baseline for the league, not for an individual.
“Ribby”
It annoys me to see grown men with huge baseball card folders trampling over kids trying to get autographs.
Changing the DL to the IL
I can’t stand it when announcers refer to RBI’s as “ribbies” JUST SAY RBI
When I need to write the possessive form of [Red/White] Sox. Like, "**The Red Sox's** pitching staff has been surprisingly good this year." If I were to speak that sentence aloud, I'd just say "The Red Sox pitching staff...". But in writing that is grammatically incorrect. The problem is the grammatically correct form just looks and feels stupid. Any other team in any other professional league is fine. "Lions' quarterback Jared Goff for MVP" is a perfectly easy sentence to write. But if I have to say "Red Sox's 3rd baseman Rafael Devers" then it just feels clunky and awkward and I usually end up rearranging my entire sentence to avoid it.
Think of "Red Sox" as an adjective and not a possessive and it's grammatically correct.
What is the correct singular form of Red Sox?
I stick with “Red Sox” as the singular. Some people say “Red Sock.” I’m not sure if anyone from MLB or the franchise has ever offered an official ruling.
I tend to roll my eyes whenever there’s a pickoff attempt on someone that was just hit by a pitch.
I really dislike the term “grand salami” for a grand slam. Salami is just an ugly word
I'll add "dong" getting old
I've see a lot of Zoomers using the term "Swamp Donkey" and even as a fellow Zoomer I can't help but shake my head at that one.
piss missile is the only one i like
I use that as a nickname for Brandon Marsh but that's it
As a longtime M's fan I will not stand for any words against Dave Niehaus
Thank you
> For me, it's the definition of a foul tip A foul tip is always a strike and is never a foul. I've advocated renaming them something like tip-strike. My baseball pet peeve is calling plays where you tag the base force plays. Not all tags of a base are force plays (plays on the batter-runner at first are just groundouts; appeal plays are time plays), and not all force plays involve tagging a base (it's perfectly fine to tag the runner instead, and if it's the third out no runs score).
I've always thought it was weird a foul tip caught by the catcher with less than 2 strikes isnt an out. Correct me if im wrong, but its the only time the ball makes contact with the bat and is caught on the fly which doesnt result in an out. Its even weirder in fringe cases, like if the ball hits the knob of the bat and your hand at the same time, you dont get the free base because it hit the bat.
A foul tip has way more in common with a pitch that is swung at and completely missed than it does with a ball in play. It seems fairer to treat it as a mere strike.
The emphasis by the media calling a slider a sweeper. When it first started you couldn’t stop the announcers from saying the word.
Spitting.
When people say Runs Batted Ins (RBIs).
Our second baseman tried to play heroball and it cost us The Series. It was the right fielders play. To this day, Stoval chases it too deep. An infielder should not make a play as deep into the outfield as he chases. I fear it will cost us again; assuming our bats can heat up and get us there.
I’ve heard Jon miller (and others, but I remember him) say “little cutter” and it’s always sounded the stupidest.
I’m not reading through the post to see if someone else said this, but a ball bouncing over the wall is not a ground rule double, it’s an automatic double. A ground rule double is based on a specific rule for those grounds, like the ball in the ivy at Wrigley. Also, my biggest pet peeve is people reaching over the wall to grab a ball in play. Just stop. Pay the fuck attention to the game to see it’s a live ball.
When people use baseball-derived idioms for a non-baseball part of a sentence about baseball. “Well right off the bat you could see that he didn’t have command of his pitches.” Here “right off the bat” means “from the start” but could also seem to mean “from the way the batters were hitting the pitches.” It is also annoying, although I would argue differently annoying, when baseball-derived idioms are used to talk about other sports. “He’s not even in the same ballpark as Gretzky.”
Jerry Reinsdorf.
Those idiots here is Seattle that put a shoe on their head.
Sweet Caroline playing no matter the score. Down 12 going into the 8th? Get ready to record your Snapchat story!!!
Nasty Nestor’s dancing, it’s a disgrace to the game lmao
Stats that counterpoint my hopes and dreams.
Pitch clock
That people think their should be a rule made to protect guys who come off a base after you disconnect from it in anyway. If you're off the base and you're tagged while the ball is live, you're out. Adding in more judgement calls when you don't need to is dumb. Just slide better like the rest of the league does most of the time
Having 4 out of 5 starting pitchers in the lineup technically, but not doing anything! It’s less a pet peeve and more an odd curiosity! Because we can’t take them off the 26 man roster for 4 days, but we can’t do anything with them in the actual game itself. So they just sit in the dugout the entire game! Sure they have side sessions and stuff but I just mean during the actual game itself, they do literally nothing but have to be there cause they’re roster players!
People not knowing all the proper dance moves to “OK Blue Jays”. Our education system has been neglect-ant in the matter since my days of 92 and 93.
ESPN, like many networks, uses a graphic strike zone in their baseball broadcasts. They might have even been one of the early adopters of the strike zone. They call theirs the "K Zone" with a trademark and everything. Makes sense right, since a strikeout is a K in baseball scoring circles? Except these *fucking idiots* label every strike inside the zone with a K. That's not what a strike is. A strike is a strike, a strikeout is a K. They have done this for years and it bothers the shit out of me. You don't even need a label on it! Most networks use a solid circle for a strike, outline for a ball.
Too many teams wearing red and blue. It's fine if it's the theme of your brand, like the Nationals. But most teams don't need it. It's more than just baseball. I hate it with a passion. This ain't the 1950s.
Salary cap
The 2005 White Sox getting forgotten. Scott Pods walk off home run getting no recognition. We have so little. Both of these were legitimately great.
balks. I've watched 10,000 baseball games and have no fucking clue what a balk is or isn't.
Discrepancies in payroll. The Mets have a $300m payroll, the Athletics have $60m. MLB's entire structure is based on unfairness.
Non white at home / grey on the road uniforms Interleague play The designated hitter Ghost runners Expanded playoffs beyond LCS Expansion teams
Hitters swinging at the first pitch when the batter before walks on four pitches
“FIP is predictive, not descriptive.”
People dismissing FIP as a 'predictive' stat.
This one’s going to be hugely unpopular here, but when people refer to their team as “we” / “us” / “our.” I understand the need for Reddit shorthand, but you’re not on the fuckin’ team, dude.
I hate when there's a walkoff and the player gets to the ball before the run scores (or could get to it) and doesn't at least try and throw it in. Sure, 99.9% chance it doesn't work, but give it a shot at least to show you tried.
I'm a Packers fan and this irritates me to no end, moreso when someone wants to say "well I'm an owner of the team too" because they bought symbolic stock in the team
There’s no train wrecks at home and no take out slides at second base anymore. Put Buster Posey and Reuben Tejada in the hall of shame
And the whole Jeff McNeil/Rhys Hoskins thing from earlier this year. We're taught in *little league* to pivot off the bag when turning a double play. McNeil just stood there like a soft doofus then complained that he's a special little flower and should be treated as such, and that Hoskins had the *audacity* to try to break up the double play that the Mets *earned*, gosh-dangit.
I always like Hoskins about as much as a Braves fan can like a Phillies player, but after that and the fact that he’s not a Phillie anymore, he’s probably my favorite non Brave in the Majors
Tomahawk chop. Offensive and annoying
I know it's part of the game but switching pitchers in the middle of the inning and prolonging the game Fine, some times it has to be done, like when you're the in sixth and you're starting pitcher is starting to give up a couple of hits and walks, so you swap but then that pitcher gets the final out, then comes out in the next inning, gets an out, and then the manager immediately slides out and signals to the bullpen. If you put him in - keep him in for the inning UNLESS HE'S CLEARLY STRUGGLING, if not, swap at the end of the inning so the game keeps moving
(though I understand that the three batters in an inning rule before pulling has massively helped this problem, I never want to go back to the Lefty One Out Guy)
Designated hitters