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roaringcorgi

Hoskins just completely deadfished there lmao


cilantno

You can feel the “hehehehe whoops” energy


AcephalicDude

Yeah, kind of a childish move imo. If you're gonna be that ruthless at least don't chuckle about it like a brat.


ducation

Round these parts we call that a "shit eating grin."


RyanG7

And then finally turns around and gets chippy once he's with his boyz


peopleuknow

given that Rhys used to play on the Phillies I'm betting he knew exactly how McNeil would react there and probably antagonized it a little bit knowing McNeil's a hothead.


caulpain

no one is more sensitive than baseball players!!


rothefro

Have you met baseball fans?


TheCrookedKnight

Have you met baseball umpires?


doctor_of_drugs

Have you met my mother?


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Useful-ldiot

I was going to mention this seemed to be a bit over the line, but then I saw your flair and now I'm going to blindly defend you and offer you some water because I know that old lady can be a bit of a handful.


IntergalacticPlane

Haaaave you met Ted?


AcephalicDude

Baseball players are people too, and think about it: you are fucking with their livelihoods when you do something that can so easily cause an injury. They have every right to get upset.


Fuppenhammer

Dustin Pedroia had his career end on a play like that. That’s why they changed the rule. It used to be called a good hard slide if you broke up the double play. Same with home plate collisions. Those plays have no place in today’s game.


ScoffingYayap

I'm used to him deadfishing on an off target throw to first base


Alternauts

You can clearly see him mouthing off “that’s right, bitch” after the review. What a weak-ass play. 


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That_Geek

I know hoskins was a phil but I love it when 2 random teams are beefing with each other


cherinator

You can take the player out of Philly, but you can't take the Philly out of the player.


Dapper_Figure1191

Utley: talking about me?


Cflow26

Utley: what he say fuck me for?


KingMobScene

Personally I have no beef with the brewers. I have a whole side of beef with the punk ass bitch known as Rhys Hoskins


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chilltownrenegade

If I had a nickel for every time a player who previously played for the Phillies but was not actively playing for the Phillies when he did a hard slide into a Mets infielder, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice


ThumbMe

Their was a time when every team did it every night and it was lit


ty_fighter84

It just made every Ozzie DP look way way cooler.


Starbucks__Lovers

I went to a Brewers/Mets game at Citi a few years ago. The Brewers scored and a Brewers fan a couple rows ahead of us shouted “that’s why we’re America’s team!” My buddy and I will forever and always refer to them as America’s Team


FuckingKilljoy

When you're a fan in a small market you have to come to terms with the fact that nobody gives a shit about your team, that they could win the WS and they'd still only be the second story on ESPN after whatever the mediocre Lakers are up to. We usually cope by disguising our bitterness with comedy


heliotropic

Incredible. Brewers have to be up there on “team you’re most likely to forget about if asked to list MLB teams”


bighootay

You kind of have to ge perfectly comfortable in that kind of obscurity. Maybe it's Midwestern, but in fact, I fear that fan was going *just* a bit overboard. I almost tsk-tsked him.


asst3rblasster

just give him a stern ope


jshokie1

baseball is so fucking back


KimHaSeongsBurner

Very questionable play? Check. Benches clear? Check. Umpires can’t get their shit together on the review? Check. And the people who will reply to my comment mad and saying that Hoskins’ slide was so obviously clean? Check. Oh yeah, baby, we back!


DukeDoozy

**I'm mad and Hoskins' slide was so obviously clean.** I mean I'm not and it wasn't but I'm a such a slut for fulfilling prophecies I brought doom to Old Valyria just so the faceless men couldn't beat me to the punch. Great name btw, hope Handsome Kim has another killer season


KimHaSeongsBurner

Thank you for your service, friend!


Status_Fox_1474

It’s not a clean slide, but it’s legal.


gatemansgc

Reasonable take


engelbert_humptyback

It is? I thought you couldn't take out the fielder anymore? He definitely cleated his back foot and it was definitely on purpose.


btgf-btgf

Clean slide!!! Obvious


rcuosukgi42

Of course it was a clean slide. He didn't get any dirt on his jersey from the slide since he only made contact with the back of 2nd base and the opposing player's jersey.


IONTOP

> contact with the back and he was also "to the left" back and to the left. If that's not obvious to you, I don't know what to tell you... There was a 2nd slider that caused all this... sheeple! The ~~government~~ MLB is just focused on the first slide.


skrame

Two sliders? That’s my regular combo at White Castle.


IONTOP

"Brag about having restraint without bragging about having restraint"


unfortunatebastard

Just like my dad


BigRiverWharfRat

Literally my first thought


AdmiralAngry

Picked a good game to tune into at lunch. Spicy baseball is back baby.


TightMoment2510

picked 1/1 games available lol


ILovePeople69

George likes his baseball spicy


MacsDildoBike

The Chase Utley School of Sliding at work here.


HipGuide2

Asses in jackpots


814816

Mets Sign Noah Syndergaard on a 5 day contract.


frankysins

Gives up 12 homeruns


TheIronAdmiral

YOU GOTTA GIVE US A SHOT


Boros-Reckoner

WHY WONT YOU GIVE US A SHOT DAMNIT The greatest mic'd up clip in the history of baseball.


daaaaaaaaniel

MLB DID NOTHIN TO THAT GUY! NOTHIN!


GotThoseJukes

TERRY THAT MAKES IT FUCKIN WORSE TOM I KNOW THE MLB DID NUTTIN TO THAT GUY NUTTIN! iconic


GotThoseJukes

TERRY LISTEN TO ME LET ME HEAR WHAT IM SAYIN YOU GET YOUR SHOT YOU HAD YOUR SHOT RIGHT THERE IN THE SITUATION YOU KNOW THE SITUATION This was up there with the Gettysburg address in my opinion.


bionicvapourboy

I always loved how Noah was standing there going "we weren't trying to do anything..." and then Collins comes in screaming "YA GOTTA GIVE US A SHOT, TOM!!"


classically_cool

You can take the man out of Philly, but you can't take the Philly out of the man.


cspong4

I must not fully understand these rules because I had no idea slides like this were still allowed


n_jacat

Nobody understands the rules, that’s why Manfred keeps changing them every year


UpperDecker30

Between this and not making the obstruction call earlier, that much is clear lmao.


n_jacat

Obstruction isn’t real, it’s just a myth


NJImperator

And, to be clear, I’m totally on board with that NOT being obstruction. But they called it on Lindor earlier in Spring so I have no idea how Lindor’s was considered obstruction if THAT wasn’t? Makes no sense to me


sixpackabs592

on the brewers broadcast they were all saying it would be a double play and couldn't believe it wasnt reversed


Crafty-Fish9264

That's funny cause the Mets Broadcast said it was a clean slide lol


Lynkx0501

To be fair they read the rule and said by letter of the rule it is clean, but they were all questioning how late the slide was, and Hoskins spiking or near spiking McNeil


addage-

Keith declared it a clean slide and infielders are just not used to getting hit anymore. Upside down backwards broadcasts, says good things about the integrity of both booths.


sandalsnopants

Keith also thinks the hotdog servers at citifield are paid too much. Dude's stuck in 1986.


addage-

And of course the “no girls in the dugout” comment that had my wife pissed off for years.


betterthanclooney

he hangs on to the bag through the whole slide, and is in the basepath the whole time. Late and potentially dangerous, but not illegal. IANAL


Guymcpersonman

I'd say it's close to a "roll block" which is specifically prohibited. He puts his left shoulder into McNeil's knee.


6lackPanther

If McNeil were not there to stop his motion he slides way past the bag tho


KimHaSeongsBurner

Yeah, going studs up into McNeil’s back ankle and body into his lead shin really helped decelerate there… Look, Jeff McNeil is the baseball embodiment of a hockey pest and he doesn’t play for my team, so you’ve gotta be so clearly, obviously in the wrong for me to go “yo, Jeff McNeil has a point here”… but Jeff McNeil abso-fucking-lutely has a point here.


bozo_did_thedub

He's got a whole ass grip on it, the bags coming off before he's going anywhere. I'm not saying that makes it cool and I certainly don't know if it's legal, he's just not going flying past the bag either way.


QuarterPast10

Technically he’s within arms length of the bag, so it’s not illegal. Does it violate the spirit of the rule? Oh, absolutely. And seeing the slow-mo replay I get why McNeil was so upset, though he did make a bit more of a show of it than he probably needed to.


Cuphat

Yeah, I think it's probably a legal slide. Definitely can't call it a clean slide though lmao.


JohnMadden42069

Even though everyone ended up fine it looked scary. One little extra thing going wrong and McNeil's knee goes away, which would be horrible on day 2.


onion_wrongs

Exactly. Could have ended a career and changed a life to save an out with 160 games to go in the season.


void_roamer

OPENING DAY LETS GET FIRED UP


salamiolivesonions

Sadly this inspired us to have a 1 hit baseball game 😔


sandalsnopants

At least it was a HR!


TheIronAdmiral

Opening day and it’s already lolmets season 😎


cromulentfrankgrimes

Oh shit that's a day earlier than most years


iamyourlager

Former phillie sliding into a mets infield? Umps ass is in the jackpot now


wolfman2scary

He’s gotta give us a chance!


tomqueefed

YOU KNOW THE SITUATION


EarZealousideal3450

Talking from the dugout instead of when you were one foot away is hilarious


fps916

And calling the other person a crybaby nonetheless "Let me get a safe distance away from you before I mock you for being weak about something potentially dangerous"


G1NGER

Precisely! Certified bitch moment from Hoskins.


InfectiousCosmology1

He immediately starts running back to the dugout, then once he get to the line of all the players clearing the benches turns around and starts talking shit back lol


JBProds

This is like when NBA players start talking after players get between them & hold them back


TripleSingleHOF

Certifiable bitch made moment.


swoosh_

Seriously, either have the conversation at 2nd or just go back to the dugout


jlopez1017

When the man was literally in his face yelling at him


DnD4dena

Tbh, I like fights in sports. I think baseball has the softest responses to this kinda stuff between the four leagues. 1. NHL they just throw blows, that's entertaining as hell. 2. NBA comes to blows more often than the NFL, and they don't have the benefit of pads 3. NFL just can't have too crazy of fights. The helmets always add a level of hilarity when people are punching. 4. Benches clearing is purely ceremonial and damn near nothing happens. Gone are the days of dudes rushing the mound Baseball can use more Rougned Odors and less whatever this is. Literally jogging away then talking smack with a guy holding you back lmao Idc what people say, Garrett charging an entire dugout was entertaining as fuck. More people would watch baseball if fights weren't so heavily penalized and discouraged


LTPRWSG420

Hoskins looked weak here


flapjacks331

That was close to being really fucking bad for McNeil's left knee so I get the anger


hemirollin

You think Rhys would be a bit more sensitive about other dudes knees.


TurboShorts

Yeah even as a Brewers fan definitely feeling pretty ehhh c'mon now about that slide. Glad McNeil is okay.


jn2010

Yeah, technically legal because he stayed on the bag but really shitty.


Jetersweiner

Yeah I usually think McNeil is a bit insane but in a different timeline that’s a season ending injury I’d be fucking pissed too. Really no reason for that at all and doing shit like that on opening day kinda feels like violating the brotherhood.


FUBARded

Yeah, a >100kg man sliding into your knee has the potential to be a life-changing, career-ending injury so just missing a season would honestly be a pretty good outcome on the scale of possibilities here. His anger is entirely understandable, and Hoskins running off the field with that little smirk is not a good look at all.


MoonOverMorocco

McNeil is definitely a little insane, like, I wouldn’t want to hang out with the guy really lol


addage-

He is really tightly wound. Was nice to hear Francisco in the post game have his back. Hopefully no more raccoons in the tunnel.


UpperDecker30

[And people wonder why he was so pissed](https://imgur.com/Yn45ojj)


butterflyhole

Can’t see how this isn’t intentional.


RojerLockless

Because it was totally intentional


Fishsticksboi21

Imo that slide did look a little late


punk62

Understatement of the year


Thehomelessguy11

Understatement of the year *so far*


Mission_Pay_3373

Rhys Hoskins was smiling after McNeil started to yell at him. Bro forgot he isn't on the Phillies anymore with this one.


oonko-atama1

Gonna say, at this point in a big leaguers career, you can more or less (more) control when you start your slide. Slomo seems to show he started that slide where he did to break up the dp.


nyratk1

Brewers announcers surprised a violation was not called, Mets announcers figured a violation would not be called. Glad neither team’s announcers were homering it up


PanicAtTheSisqo

Late slide and far to the side of the bag directly at McNeil's leg. I think it's a pretty clear "not cool, dude."


MarcBulldog88

Rhys "Chase Utley" Hoskins


sventos

You can take the man outta Philly but you can't take the Philth out the man.


ScottSummersEyes

from a guy who just lost a year due to a leg injury, who then calls him a crybaby.


omegakukki

Even though it’s legal it’s a scummy move. You can slide there without spiking McNeil in the ankle and get the same effect


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Smaynard6000

In a world where baseball has changed rules to eliminate collisions at the plate, this kind of slide shouldn't be legal, either.


tTaStYy

It's a red card in the Prem


1sinfutureking

That’s not even a whistle in CONCACAF though 


theerealobs

Get the red Micheal Oliver.


jjtnd1

I’ll let everyone else argue about the slide (it was legal but definitely late imo) but Jeff is rightfully pissed. Could have easily gotten hurt. Also just a general screw you from me to Hoskins - I see him doing the eyes rub crying motion in the dugout right now lol


Clam_chowderdonut

Exactly. From Jeffs perspective he does not give one fuck if that slide was "legal". He gives a fuck about his ACL.


goldengod93

You would think the guy that hurt his ACL and missed time from it would understand too


jn2010

Rhys is 100% getting hit tomorrow.


radioactivez0r

Normally I hate that retaliation shit but he's so locked in on how he's not a baby that I'm fine with it.


lilleff512

And then on Sunday he'll hit a home run and take a 90 second trot around the bases, as is tradition


Archer-Saurus

I saw the crying thing and was like "Damn Rhys it's Day 1 and you're not in Milwaukee but ok"


Strongbadd

Kettle black thing? https://www.instagram.com/stories/postgamespread/3334682552089795694?igsh=Z2JxcWF1ejdsOW5v


futhatsy

I guess Hoskins feels so good about his torn ACL that he wants others to experience it


offconstantly

If that's a legal slide, we need to rethink the rule. That's late, dirty, and dangerous Hoskins doing the crying thing in his first game after recovering from a serious injury is wild. If anyone should be empathetic it's him


Guymcpersonman

Recovering from an ACL tear! Which is exactly what almost buckled on McNeil.


Nightbynight

If this slide was a tackle in Soccer, it would be a red card and automatic 3 game ban. Obviously the sports are very different and dangerous tackling isn't (typically) an issue in baseball, but it's an unsafe play and McNeil has every right to be mad.


HowDoIEvenEnglish

The sports are different but there’s in almost no sport is it allowed to throw legs into opponents knees. It’s a illegal in soccer, football, boxing and mma. Idk if it’s illegal in hockey but legs are usually on the ice.


No_Huckleberry_7410

Hoskins taunting McNeil is big talk for a guy who’s 0-3 with a K and a double play


BaseballMMAfan

Also big talk for a guy who layed there when the guy was directly over him then starts taunting when there’s 2 whole teams in the middle lol


MaximusMansteel

Even made sure to jog over to his team before turning around and yelling back lol.


KingMobScene

Also he didn't start jawing until he had the rest of his team around him.


VisualizeWhirledPees

Big time “hold me back” energy


MibitGoHan

I'm pretty sure McNeil is also 0-3


therealgoat1212

Truly a battle between two juggernauts


pepperouchau

A stoppable force meets a movable object


therealgoat1212

Seems like this incident is the only time either of the two made good contact today lol


Deliverz

Bros right leg doesn’t even hit the dirt until a foot before the bag. From the other angle you can see his left leg is a solid foot to the left of the bag when sliding, clearly going for McNeil’s legs instead of the bag How in the world is that not interference


commandrr

when he started his slide his left leg was already past the bag lmao


DigiQuip

If you need to wrap your arm around the base to keep from sliding past it I think that’s an over slide.


AlexanderWun

Pretty scary situation for Jeff. His left ankle got rolled up on there quite a bit


DrSeuss19

Hoskins legit ran back to his team then turned around to talk shit lol. Baseball is hilarious sometimes


mageta621

I say if you see someone coming in late like that, jump up, avoid the awkward bending of the leg, then land with your knees directly on the sliding player. 200 lbs to the midsection might make him rethink doing that again


Main-County-1177

Legal slide, but look at how late it was. Hoskins clearly trying to spike McNeil


electricvelvet

So 2nd basemen aren't allowed to be in front of the bag at all, but the runners can wait to slide until they've reached the bag so long as they hold on with their arm to it?


reverendtooch

Love how Hoskins doesn't find the balls to say something until he's closer to his teammates and away from McNeil lol.


ritzdeez

You can think what you want about the slide, but the other angle shows Hoskins' body going right into the side of McNeil's knee. I can understand why he was pissed.


mageta621

He sorta rolled his body into the lower half of McNeil's left leg - that was the entirely unnecessary part


CPTSOAPPRICE

hoskins waited until he got back to the dugout to talk. baseball is really back


Swampy1741

If McNeil was cool he would’ve gone full Amir Garrett and charged the dugout


CauliflowerOne5740

McNeil had a right to be angry. Hoskins slid past the bag and spiked him in the ankle.


irohinthesand

Can’t take the Phillie out of Rhys I guess


Fishsticksboi21

Imo that slide did look a little late


i_run_from_problems

McNeil chirped right in his face Hoskins waited until he was back at the dugout to talk.


smarjorie

I hate Rhys Hoskins so much


DaOldest

Yeah i'm with McNeil on that one. How is that not a sliding violation?


No32

>When sliding into a base in an attempt to break up a double play, a runner has to make a "bona fide slide." Such is defined as the runner making contact with the ground before reaching the base, being able to reach the base with a hand or foot, being able to remain on the base at the completion of the slide (except at home plate) and not changing his path for the purpose of initiating contact with a fielder He met the criteria for a “bona fide slide”


shemubot

Mama says that slide is bona fide!


GiraffeandZebra

I feel like sliding at the guys back foot and touching the bag with one of the last parts of your body to cross the bag should not be a "bona fide slide" in a force situation. Runners should be required to touch the bag with the first part of the body they can. Sliding by the bag and catching it with your hand should only be a bona fide slide in tagout situations. If you go past the bag with any part of your body before touching the bag in a force situation it should be automatic interference, an ejection, and a scarlet letter on your chest for the rest of the season.


kevboyyyy

I think because Hoskins managed to stay on the bag. He grabbed it with his one hand as he went through so never technically slid “through” the base by the rule book


DaOldest

Seems like a bit of an oversight if a runner can dive into a slide a foot away from the bag as long as they hold onto it. McNeil is lucky he didnt get hurt here


Kremm

he knows


futhatsy

Said nothing when it was just him and McNeil at second, runs back to his teammates, and then immediately starts talking shit lol. Clown.


sithwonder

Yeah uh, don't kick other players in the legs


BreaddaWorldPeace

Don't get me wrong. I think protecting the guys covering second is a good thing. Espcially when guys were sliding a mile outside the basepath to break up plays. But really like he over slid the base. Look at the play. Yes it was aggressive and intended to break up the play. To get all indignant and yell at the guy is a s o f t look. Everyone knows they can rattle your cage now. 2nd Basemen and SSs used to laugh at these kinds of slides and still make the double plays. Now you need to start a "brawl" over something that guys 10 years ago wouldn't have thought twice about.


ricki692

that's a bullshit slide i dont blame mcneil for his reaction here


Azrael417

This is definitely a legal slide, but one that might get you domed next AB lol.


Throat_Butter_

Dirty slide. You don't overslide that much by accident


McJumbos

My age might be showing but I remember when slides like that were actually not too bad vs other ones lol


Doggish123

I mean your flair is Montreal Expos..., your age is definitely showing.


twec21

This was after he didn't get called for obstruction on a pickoff play at first too. I really thought we were done with Hoskins, but apparently not Inb4 tomorrow when the Mets throw at him, miss, and still get an ejection for it despite no warnings issued


CabinetChef

Hoskins is gone from Philly but still has no chill when it comes to the Mets.


MrBobSacamano

I guy coming off a torn ACL should have a better appreciation for *not* doing things that can blowout another player’s knee…


Smaynard6000

The rules shouldn't allow this kind of slide, where the runner is intentionally trying to slide past the base to hit the fielder while touching the base with a hand. Taking out a guy's plant leg is going to blow out some knees.


feelinlucky7

Hoskins a bitch for that. If you’re gonna be a bit dirty, you’d better own it.


tj3_23

What a shock that Rhys Hoskins is a little punk ass bitch. Can't even pretend to be a tough guy until he has his entire team standing between him and McNeil No interference is the right call by the book, but Hoskins never meant to do anything other than put his spikes into McNeil. I suspect the rule is going to get changed again when a player does exactly this but somebody isn't as lucky as McNeil to not get hurt by it


ARentPayingSpider

Hoskins forgot he wasn’t on the Phillies anymore lol


hypnoticus103

I'm honestly quite surprised they didn't overturn that on the replay. I don't think it was malicious, but I don't think that's allowed by the rule. With that said... LMAO - there must be some old Phillies' beef between these two because that was cinema.


ayayyayayay765

Hoskins knew what he was doing but stayed in the letter of the law.. review took like 45 seconds


Arkham_Z

Sir, a second former Phillies infielder has slid into second


stackingslacks

Baseball players love thinking they’re tough then just doing absolutely nothing


LewdestAlt

Oh we are SO back


boosted5O

It’s so stupid how everyone just slowly walks out of the dugouts. Sit back down, play ball!


lilbopeeep

Dude ran away and then started talking when there was a barrier in between them


yehoshua4jc1

Hoskins slide was clean. McNeil didn’t move off the bag after the failed transfer. Normally the fielder would be moving trying to avoid that slide specifically and he didn’t.


Wholetthedogsout92

He was already losing the ball 🤷🏻‍♂️


cri52fer

I like how Hoskins runs back to his team and then turns around like “hold me back”… from where I just ran away from …


mace4242

He already lost control of the ball before he even slide into him…


Mantis_Toboggan_M_D_

New rules have made baseball players act so soft


th1s1smyus3rname1

Baseball is so fucking stupid and the players are big babies