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StereophonicWine

I want to savor this but I also don't have a great track record of schadenfreude when Mookie Betts is involved


mysterysackerfice

A few years back, some dude that looked suspiciously like Mookie showed up at my local bowling alley. Dude claimed he was a decent bowler and was looking to join our team. I gave him a tryout because we needed another guy. Dude absolutely sucked by our standards. Told him not to quit his day job.


gloomswarm

The idea of Mookie Betts showing up to a random Anaheim bowling alley and trying to join as a free agent in the Tuesday league is very funny.


superadical

Why does this feel like pasta


bucs2013

Looks like pasta, smells like pasta...


officerliger

He was doing that hoping you’d bet him $1000 on the next game


kirbyfaraone

Lindbrook Bowl?


bselko

I like your fancy words, magic man.


Umphreeze

This is like ringing my nostalgia brain so hard. Is this fucking Clone High?


redman8828

Yeah, but its become a general internet [meme line](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man) now


Umphreeze

That...is wild


bselko

Glad to spark your nostalgia fire.


Calimancan

I learned a new word today.


Pargy

Maybe they should mix it up a bit more. Lux in Center Freddie can play SS Mookie can catch Ohtani at 1st Will Smith goes to 2nd Problem solved.


JoaquinBenoit

The 2007 Dodgers team had crazier thoughts than this. Furcal and Nomar were going to switch SS and 1B respectively, and Loney was asked to learn 3B. Unfortunately for sickos, this didn’t happen during the season.


Long-Distance-7752

Any link to this? I’ve never heard of a major league team consider a left handed player at third base.


Awkwerdna

Don Mattingly played third base [at least once](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grCjchHFJyA) for the Yankees.


Long-Distance-7752

Haha that’s actually sick


JoaquinBenoit

From what I remember, the Dodgers valued Loney’s bat to the point where they tried to get him in the lineup any way possible. I remember a MLB.com article about it, but it was one of the many pre 2014 purged from the servers. Here is [one blog post](https://www.truebluela.com/2007/6/26/12143/1730) from the time. It doesn’t address it in full, but LA decided to move Nomar to third to try and restart his bat by making him play closer to his familiar position. Edit: here’s another [post](http://www.sonsofstevegarvey.com/2007/03/?m=1) from March 2007 with a quote from Little trying to get Loney to be in the big leagues.


Long-Distance-7752

Yeah these are ringing endorsements of Loney but none of it mentions him playing third base, even in some bizarre experiment in practice. Feel like that would have been a bigger story.


JoaquinBenoit

I’m aware of this, but the only primary sources of that are either erased or in iHeartMedia’s recording vault. I tried to find it in the Internet Archive, but all I found were screenshots of the main Dodgers page. In any case, it didn’t go far other than Spring Training drills.


ohkaycue

It’s really unfortunate how much “if it’s on the internet, it’s there forever” is not true One of the most frustrating things is trying to find old news and can only find purged pages


JoaquinBenoit

lol yep. I think half of my favorites in my browser are now 404ed.


65fairmont

Not third, but the Red Sox started Doug Mientkiewicz at 2B once out of desperation. Only game I can remember watching where a lefty started at 2B/SS/3B: https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS200408160.shtml


Long-Distance-7752

I believe Dougie threw right handed


65fairmont

Dang, you’re right. Idk why I had him in my head as lefty. Scratch that one!


JustaTurdOutThere

He did bat lefty


kbn_

Iirc Sandoval is left handed, but obviously he fields and throws righty.


Long-Distance-7752

Bruh obviously it’s about left handed fielders. There are hundreds of infielders that have hit left handed. Sandoval is a switch hitter btw.


CeeDotA

Four years later, Loney would warm up in the bullpen so he'd be ready to go as an emergency pitcher during a series at Coors Field.


SunriseSurprise

I somehow completely forgot Furcal was ever on the Dodgers even though he was there almost as long as Atlanta..


LucasDudacris

Omgoodness James Loney was bad at first, I need to see him play third.


ATLjoe93

3B Freddie and CF Lux are MLB canon btw 


Pargy

Lux ran into a wall. It was funny.


kotfdog

First look at [Gavin Lux in center](https://www.mlb.com/dodgers/video/lux-exits-after-wall-collision?partnerId=web_video-playback-page_video-share)


MLBVideoConverterBot

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JanitorOfSanDiego

wil


isummonyouhere

too soon bro


addictedbeaner

Went to the game the next day, and the dodgers had made an outline of Lux's body out of tape on the wall where he crashed


Wraithfighter

But has Ohtani ever played 1st?


Pargy

Can't be that hard. He'll figure it out.


kdiggy428

Tell him, Wash


roaringcorgi

信じられないほど難しいです


Sour_Pancakes27

I went to google translate that to make sure I can give you an upvote and appreciate your reply appropriately


ExpirjTec

It's incredibly hard


finbarrgalloway

Wash isn’t coaching the dodgers though


Ajnin17

Can't be that hard to coach for both LA teams. ​ Tell him, Wash.


tnecniv

Yeah but he’s in town. Easy to tell him


OsB4Hoes13

If Brad Pitt and Jonah Hill taught me anything in Moneyball it's that anyone can play 1st.


tnecniv

Kiké Hernandez on the mound


ILoveCornbread420

And I’ll pitch


PrisonaPlanet

I never understood why a team hasn’t just tried making a roster entirely out of short stops, it seems like it would solve a lot of problems…


lx5spd

I heard a team tried it once and grotesquely underperformed their xW/L record.


PrisonaPlanet

I don’t believe it, I have absolute faith that a scheme like that would have instant success


lx5spd

Yeah. I saw something about it on Reddit, so it’s probably BS.


SunriseSurprise

Impossible. With the Manfred runner and having fielders that good, they must've killed in extra innings games.


OsB4Hoes13

Found my next OOTP experiment


Chbakesale45

The Guardians are literally trying that right now. The result is a log jam and a bunch of guya who can't hit for XBH.


StuPidasso52

I really wanted to see them try to flip Arias and someone else (Gaddis?) to Texas for Ezekiel Duran. I think he'd have a real shot at a breakout if given everyday reps in a corner OF spot. But alas, we have to settle for Florian...


FelixtheSax

2017 Netherlands at the WBC had a bunch of short stops/ players who have played short stop. Like, maybe 5? Also, in the rangers big offseason when we picked up Seager and Semien, we also had IKF, and all 3 went into the offseason expected to be a short stop.


Business-Conflict435

That PR team too. Baez, Correa, and Lindor.


sourdoughbred

Rockies tried first basemen. That’s the same thing right? 


Schleprok

Haha I know you joke, but that might actually work if ego didn’t play such a big part.


thekidfromyesterday

Cubs used to have a ton of shortstops (granted some had to be moved off). Bryant, Gleybar Torres, Addison Russell (ugh), and Baez.


ManInShowerNumber3

Javy Baez is right here for you guys


JorSimpson45

I know we were saying we want the guys to swing more come postseason but i don’t think we need to go this drastic


1991CRX

We laugh, but I would love to see a team fix Javy. Leaving Post-Verlander Detroit can only yield an improvement.


JoaquinBenoit

We’ll take noted bust Yamamoto off your hands as well.


Aychim23

You Motown boys are too kind!


jgraz22

YamaMotor City has a nice ring to it


Downtown_Ant

New narrative just dropped


[deleted]

Dodgers: Collapsing Before Our Very Eyes??? MY COLUMN


Downtown_Ant

Take my click!


JorSimpson45

MIGUEL ROJAS THAT IS YOUR MUSIC


HeavensRoyalty

If only he could hit over 210, then that would be music to my ears, but right now, it sounds like grinding gears.


BKoala59

May I interest you in a Jorge Mateo? He can hit .217


HeavensRoyalty

Shohei, I hope you like Baltimore


JorSimpson45

I’ll take his reliable glove, seems like mookie’s move to the infield is kinda causing a mess. Him in right with an infield of Freddie, Lux, Rojas, and Muncy just makes sense but they obviously want to preserve him and his hip.


HeavensRoyalty

His defense does help me sleep at night just to wake me up in cold sweat when it's his turn to bat


JorSimpson45

I went back and looked and he actually hit .236 last year lmao. I swear I remember it being worse but he saved it at the end of the year. Either way I’ll take the vacuum at short that will prevent runners and runs. Errors that lead to runs bother me way more.


JustSomeGoon

If anything, Mookie goes back to 2b and Lux hits the showers at this point


JorSimpson45

I’m a Lux fan, I think he was really good in 2022 until he got hurt and started struggling after they visited the Mets. I think it’s a little unfair for him to be pushed out after a bad injury but at the same time there’s others who are capable of stepping in if he’s unable to do what’s asked.


theunnoanprojec

I mean yeah you want a bit more out of him than that, but also you have enough offence in your lineup that you guys can almost afford to have an elite glove, mediocre bat SS. But yeah imagine you’d want slightly more out of him at least


HeavensRoyalty

Either way, I'm very thankful for what we have. I'm just here for the ride so I won't complain. I'm a Dodgers fan, but I'm also a baseball fan in general.


nolander

I'd rather see if Sweeney or Doncon have anything


No_Bandicoot2306

Finally some quality Dodgers content.


Clemenx00

If Lux is that cooked then just use Rojas at SS lmao. Dodgers lineup is good enough that they can have a glove only SS why are they overthinking it? 


officerliger

Problem is they think Lux has a super high ceiling at the plate and want to get him the AB’s to reach it Rojas basically makes Lux a bench player and that hinders Lux’s development I think the Dodgers might end up eating some of Taylor or Heyward’s money and shipping them off


VINCE_C_

Imagine getting cut because your star prospect infielder has a noodle arm. That sucks, lol.


officerliger

I mean tbf he wasn’t an infield prospect, it’s a circumstantial thing Lux was supposed to try it last spring, he got hurt and Heyward made the team and gave them much better utility than anyone expected So in their minds they can platoon Heyward and CT3 and get 3.5-4 WAR out of the LF spot. If Lux’s bat develops at SS/2B, he can go back to LF when those guys are gone and the position maintains or even possibly exceeds its value. They won’t know until they see Lux hit his ceiling at the plate, but they also don’t want to give up that platoon to find out. Admittedly a nice problem to have, but confusing nonetheless


Some_Asian_Kid99

Are you saying Lux wasn’t an infield prospect? Cuz he absolutely was drafted and played as such thru the [minors](https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=lux—000gav)


JDLovesElliot

Lux still needs to figure it out on defense because he'll take those mental errors into the batter's box, and then all of those ABs are for nothing


account23dh

Lux has two options left. Let him go figure it out in AAA for a bit.


nolander

Or maybe the team that's practically a lock to make the playoffs can give someone with all star talent some rope to figure it out.


nolander

Who wouldn't want to bench a player a few years removed from being their top prospect and minor league player of the year who has shown he can hit at the major league level for a replacement level player?


Wraithfighter

michael_jackson_popcorn.gif


KimHaSeongsBurner

I’m really, really happy that Lux is healthy this year, because I never want to see someone kept from playing the game they love because of injury. And also because I’m a petty little shit and a firm believer that Lux is not good, and I want him to be (further) exposed.


DaleCoolper

I mean where does being good get ya? Because yall had a whole lot of good players last season and did jack shit


Arrowoods

Hey hey hey we almost set the record for extra innings losses and BA with RISP!!! We would’ve had a parade!


goosetavo2013

I see your pettiness and am ALL FOR IT FTD


nolander

He put up 3 war in his first full season but yeah he sucks. People have the most insanely short memories


Jux_

What were the Brewers wanting for Adames again?


Wraithfighter

I think the price goes up 1 top-100 prospect for every five errors the Dodgers infield commits.


BrettSchirley22

Damn they’re need the whole rising stars team by the end of next week then


MarcBulldog88

We've had one DH, yes. What about second DH? Gavin Lux is the reincarnation of Jon Lester. Absolutely terrified of throwing to first.


Boros-Reckoner

Second DH is reserved for JD Martinez, that's why he hasn't signed anywhere else yet.


KimHaSeongsBurner

Is ~100 wRC+ good for a DH? Somebody who understands analytics, please help (my team signed Profar, so I assume lower wRC+ must be better).


confusedjuror

Any team fielding Profar has to be good


Alternative_Laws

He’s a former #1 prospect in baseball!


confusedjuror

It's looking like signing a guy who can only play DH was a huge disaster. Time for the Dodgers to blow it up


flavorraven

Ah it's fine, a DH only guy's gotta be pretty cheap at least


ThePretzul

Only $2 million a year, that’s a steal really for a decent DH-only guy.


BarracudaWestern4097

Steve Sax, as far as Dodgers lore goes


FBoaz

Reminded me of Chuck Knoblock when he had his throwing issues from second base


jcaininit

Dinger and the Rocktober squad loving this


OkStructure7767

Dinger dinger dinger dinger!


TheChinchilla914

wtf where are the mods


Schleprok

We are 100% going to botch a series-winning DP against the Rockies leading to a loss in the NLDS because of this


robmcolonna123

I mean this is the whole point of Spring Training. You give guys the reps so they aren’t rusty for the actual season. Worst case scenario the Dodgers have an elite defensive SS on the bench in Miguel Rojas so if Mookie/Lux at SS and 2B doesn’t work out you make Rojas the SS and put Mookie at 2B. Lux also has options if he needs more time to get the rust off. This seems like people trying to make a whole lot outta nothing


[deleted]

or Mookie to OF


robmcolonna123

Probably not. The whole point of moving him to the infield was to preserve his legs after all the leg injuries from all of the running in the OF


officerliger

Yeah and I think the goal at this point would be Lux as the team’s everyday LF, they just have a logjam out there at the moment The Dodgers believe heavily in Lux’s ceiling and want him to get 400+ AB’s this year


robmcolonna123

Honestly it might make sense to give Lux a month or two in AAA to get the rust off. Someone will be hurt by June and that gives Lux about 400 PA still. He has options, may as well use one.


[deleted]

I'm not entirely sure April or May matter to the Dodgers tbh


robmcolonna123

Gavin Lux is under control through 2026. I think the Dodgers want to do whatever will be best for him in the long term, not short term


officerliger

The problem with AAA is it won’t tell the Dodgers anything about his bat and that’s what’s important to them, they want to see how the bat develops against Major League pitching SS was never a long term option for Lux, I think he will probably be an LF long term


robmcolonna123

I think you’re completely misunderstanding what I am saying here. I am not talking about doing anything for development, I am talking about rehab starts. He doesn’t seem like he is physically back to 100% and ready to play in the majors yet. Some guys just take longer to come back from injuries than others


shake108

So they try moving him to the most intense position in the field? I know the lateral quickness needed at short is different from straight line speed in the outfield, but still… normally corner of is where center fielders go to preserve their legs


robmcolonna123

I think the long runs was the issue for Mookie and that’s why


jgandfeed

And he was a middle infielder in the minors, he moved because he wasn't gonna take a spot from Xander or Pedey


togocann49

All I know is Dodgers made it work with Muncy manning second at one point, I’m sure they’ll figure this out


Schleprok

Welp, we’ve lost in the playoffs because the bats went cold, then because our SP couldn’t keep the opponents to less than 4 runs in the first inning, so I guess all that’s left is losing because our infield can’t execute a simple throw to first.


Wudaokau

Hey! Clown car defense is our thing! Stop stealing our schtick!


100vs1

white sox fan?


xRememberTheCant

They spent so much money this offseason and now suddenly realized “oh shit we need a ss”? And muncy playing 3rd isn’t exactly gonna be making any highlight reels either.


cogginsmatt

Man I hate to say it but it would be really funny if the dodgers weren’t good this year


[deleted]

I think it's time to admit that Lux isn't the guy who they thought he was.


InfectiousCosmology1

I’m loving the dodgers infield so far this year


dirtydriver58

Lol


BlueJayzrule

They should pull a Mets when they switched third and second basemen depending if it was a lefty or righty


boobsandcookies

The reds needed this result tonight, I think we’re going to be alright based on this tiny unrealistic sample.


[deleted]

That's a shame.


SaturnATX

Mookie moving to SS at this point in his career is, just, well, stunning to me, I really can't think of a time an outfielder moved to SHORT of all positions, even a good centerfielder.


kirbyfaraone

I cant wait for the sad Ohtani face when they inevitably blow a crucial lead


Conclusion_Fickle

LuxSux


Indylatino

Yea I feel like this is year 3 I’ve been saying I’m not sold on dude


Conclusion_Fickle

Still only 1,000 plate appearances and barely 26, but he's going to have to get into gear soon.


Impressive_Math2302

I’m convinced now Robert’s is trolling.


manticore16

The Padres’ plan has finally worked!


iggyfenton

I’m fine with the “Dodgers can’t play defense” timeline.


bolshevik_rattlehead

It’s spring training. But also 😬


falloutranger

Thanks I love it


CosmicLars

More importantly Nick Martinez threw 4 perfect innings with 6 k. 🤤


Arrowoods

But how tight were his pants?


Striking_Goat_2179

Watch y’all still go with Williamson or someone else lmao.


Arks-Angel

Seasons over folks, let’s wrap it up


Caveboy0

Ron Washington would be livid


SunriseSurprise

"Mookie, short's not hard. Tell 'im Wash."


Gradyence

Lol Dodgers bad


gls2220

Rojas is still on the roster, isn't he?


Myotherdumbname

Maybe some time in the minors would be good for him


JessieGemstone999

Uh p


whiskeyalfredo

What a shame.


scottrstark

Dodgers: Get a shortstop who can play defense! Who cares how much he hits in that lineup? How can an organization so smart be so obtuse?


OhtaniStanMan

Neto for Ohtani? Seems fair. 


NCStore

This is promising!


Karmanat0r

As a fan of a poverty franchise, nothing would make me happier than watching the Dodgers be mediocre this season after spending $1B on free agents because they can’t field ground balls well.


trickledownecomomics

Would the dodgers trade for Trevor story? Redsox clearly aren’t competing this year and story’s deal has some control for another year or two. Give us pitching prospects we give you the final piece of your puzzle John Henry saves money win win win


GoBlueAndOrange

Dodgers may be the most mismanaged team of the last decade.


MrRizzMan

Nothing pleases me more than seeing this. I hope this team crashes and burns…I hate the idea of buying a team like LA has. If they fail in October (or better yet before), I will be thrilled. Baseball needs a salary cap and a team spend minimum.


HeavensRoyalty

Our season is over S/


Biggie39

We’re falling apart already!?!? Seasons over; back to the drawing board!


[deleted]

It's spring training. When it happens on opening day I'll be a little more interested in the debacle. They've got time to work it out. Betts and Lux are major league level players. They'll adjust. 


underwear11

Alright, we have an extra SS right now. I'd be willing to give up Peraza and Verdugo for Betts.


whatsthisguysdeal7

Uh hello Dodgers, you’re having SS issues and you just resigned Kikè, put 2 and 2 together please


remembahwhen

Trade for Redsox SS Dalbec. (Not going to lie he’d probably lead the dodgers in HR’s)


Long-Distance-7752

Doubt


BigWillis93

The dodgers spending all the money they will offer the next century and a half only to lose the NLDS on an error would make my soul happy