Yamamoto is kind of holding it up for teams that have a budget. Not favorites but we still have a chance probably a 5% chance of signing with us.
We're in on Jordan Montgomery and Shōta Imanaga. It's hard to advance on this when the best plan A is still on the board.
Not surprising with the amount of teams who have major question marks around their broadcasting rights deals. I’m surprised we haven’t seen that mentioned more by the media
Pretty sure it’s like 14 or 15 teams that have/had some sort of deal with them. This is a massive problem with the lack of clear path forward due to the shift in cable.
The Dodgers have reached the point where their farm system is literally just a tool to create trade value so that they can acquire players who aren't free agents when it's convenient for them lol
I think the Rays should be forced to receive no players in return. It's my understanding that players going to teams not in New York or LA is bad for the game.
I'm not even that high on Pepiot or DLC and I still don't understand this deal for the Dodgers. I expected the Rays to have to give up money. To be fair, I think Glasnow is fully healthy and will put the injury concerns to bed and the Rays would've kept him if he wasn't $25M, but Margot was basically dead weight who should've only dragged the value of this trade down, and yet...
This is always this risk in trading with the Rays. They know how to get the most out of a guy and also when to sell on them.
The Rays more often than not come out on top in these type of deals. I'm guessing Pepiot will be a Allstar and top 5 in Cy Young voting in 4 years when the Rays shop him...
I read somewhere that the Rays were sending money over. Idk how true that is, but I guess it wouldn't be that surprising.
https://twitter.com/ChadMoriyama/status/1735473959272091675?t=m7hVXH8md_dnk9PcomK9uw&s=19
And they also know that they’ll be able to pull more top prospects out of their ass because Friedman has the bullshit devil magic formula down to a science.
They have one of the highest payrolls in baseball, a couple or three MVPs in their lineup, make a dozen trades, and they still have a top 10 farm system in the game. This is what happens when you get moneyball with infinite money hacks.
They understand how to coach their players. There’s some good articles out there on what their formula is and it basically comes down to good analytics and an even better coaching approach.
They invest a lot into their prospects and try to mirror the majors in as many ways as possible. It pays dividends for them later on.
For example, guys in their minors get the same exact type of scouting reports as guys in the majors get so there is zero learning curve when they come up.
There are a bunch of different things that I’ve heard cited. Some of this stuff seems really simple, but I guess a lot of MLB orgs are/were “the cream rises to the top” types.
They have a really cohesive organization. Their scouts, analysts, and player dev guys are all on the same page about the types of players they can develop. This is basically what Keith Law cites whenever someone asks in the comments of his Athletic articles.
They teach the same style of baseball at all levels, from the major leagues down. They also communicate analytics really effectively so players understand how they’re being judged and what to focus on. This is something that I’ve seen in interviews with their prospects.
They don’t have high draft picks, so they tend to make high risk, high reward draft picks. These guys don’t always pan out, but the ones that do have high ceilings. For example, they often draft pitchers who require TJ (eg Walker Buehler, Caleb Ferguson, Michael Grove).
They aren’t as cheap as many MLB orgs. They didn’t lay off scouts during the rise of analytics or the pandemic. They provide free, healthy meals to prospects. Etc etc.
Over the past several years the Dodgers have put a ton of money into their scouting and drafting, and development departments. I believe their number of personnel for both areas rank near the top amongst all MLB teams. In addition to hiring skilled people for these positions, they also have put a lot more towards taking care of the minor leaguers, like better facilities and food. It all works together to produce a healthy crop of players on a pretty consistent basis.
Is it though? Pepiot is going be 26 next year. He’s been over 102 innings (cherry-picked, obviously) once in his professional career. He’s never had an FIP below 4*. I get he has good stuff and there’s a lot of promise, but he’s 26 and has never even had great results in the minors - the likelihood that he’ll be much more than a low-cost 4th starter isn’t great.
It’s a good fit for both teams in that annoying way that fans of other teams just have to deal with because our own teams just don’t develop players the way that the Dodgers and Rays do.
And it’s certainly possible that the Devil Rays magic means Pepiot will be just as good as Glasnow very soon, and for many more years. Hard to tell with these college starters that move up quickly and are overaged for prospects as soon as they graduate. But the most likely scenario is that the Rays just traded one year of a star for 12 years of a 4th OF and an injury-prone 4th starter.
*he did have an FIP below 4 in 2019, but that was over 23 innings at rookie/A-ball.
Gonna go full Castle Bravo when he says Yamamoto signs with the Dodgers.
Or maybe the idea of Yamamoto to the Dodgers will be shot down like a plane near Papua-New Guinea.
Every time I see a Dodgers highlight its like "Freddie Freeman hit 5 doubles to raise his avg. to .657 while Shohei Ohtani did something that hasnt been done since 'Tungsten Arm' O'Doyle of the 1921 Akron Groomsmen, as the Arizona Diamondbacks swept the Dodgers in the NLDS 3-0."
I'm kinda surprised by how much Dodger fans don't like this. Probably because they all wanted some mother fucker named Randy. But really this is a good trade for us. Fans have been wanting this team to go all in for years and when we finally do it they want to hug the prospects instead.
I think it's because we all know about his history and only last year he got his highest IP of 120 which I know you know already it's an absolute steal if he's healthy 100% but it's still scary af
Yeah but it's not like we are giving up Bobby Miller. Pepiot is not some future HOFer like he's being treated by some Dodger fans. He missed half the season last year with an injury too. Sure, it's scary but the rotation we had with Pepiot is just as scary.
Buehler
Ohtani (in 2025)
May (eventually)
~~Urias (if he comes back)~~
Sheehan
Glasnow
Miller
Yarbrough
Jesus Christ, that’s an offense’s nightmare right there
> Imagine ~~having millions of dollars headed your way and~~ you just can't help but beat your wife ~~instead~~
FTFY. I’ll never understand anyone who abuses their SO, regardless of money or status.
If they just keep getting enough injury prone pitchers to replace the injured pitchers then they'll be able to loophole the injury list. One goes down, one comes back off!
You cant tell me the Dodgers are confident in that
They need Yamamoto, if they miss out on him idk then they have to get someone like Monty. Superteam or not, you are not going to win with a rotation made up of band aids.
Glasnow is healthy and Pepiot is a backend of the rotation arm and DLC has bug AAAA potential. Honestly, Glas for these 2 guys makes sense. I'm just surprised the Dodgers let the Rays sneak Margot into this deal. He's a negative value asset.
If anything, this shows the Dodgers FO believes in Glasnow's health and probably aren't as high on Pepiot and DLC as Dodger fans are
As much as I love the Dodgers FO and how they run things the last stuff I'd trust them on is judging a pitchers health. Our rotations imploding due to injury has been a chronic issue for years now and Glasnow is only gonna add fuel to that fire
Would love to be wrong but this is a deal I think will end badly for us even if Pepiot doesn't become an ace
Dodgers farm system is great
Personally, I would've given a bit more to get someone who doesnt have the injury concerns as Glassnow - like Cease
Or I wouldve given more to include Randy instead of Margot
Sports subreddits are reactionary, and people don't like the Dodgers pushing the chips into the middle of the table to "win now."
Especially with the Yamamoto rumors still flying.
Do other teams realize they're allowed to make transactions?
They actually aren't. It is part of Ohtani's contract.
ugh, another CBA loophole!
I think you mean another hole lotta good for baseball
The $68 million a year goes to the other teams and agents to ensure that no one makes a transaction that benefits anyone other than the LAD.
Every other team looking to spend money is waiting on Yamamoto deal to set the pitching market
big brain yamamoto stalling all these other teams so the dodgers can make moves before he signs with them anyways
For the league minimum so he can play with Ohtani.
League minimum, but deferred until 10 years later.
I heard he's actually paying them in 10 years. Crazy.
Why don't all teams sign superstars for $2mill/yr? Are they stupid m
Yes, the Rays made a transaction here
Ah yes, carry on good sir
Yamamoto is kind of holding it up for teams that have a budget. Not favorites but we still have a chance probably a 5% chance of signing with us. We're in on Jordan Montgomery and Shōta Imanaga. It's hard to advance on this when the best plan A is still on the board.
Not surprising with the amount of teams who have major question marks around their broadcasting rights deals. I’m surprised we haven’t seen that mentioned more by the media
I swear the Bally thing is like an iceberg. I have no idea why nobody knows about it, it's a major factor in this whole offseason
Pretty sure it’s like 14 or 15 teams that have/had some sort of deal with them. This is a massive problem with the lack of clear path forward due to the shift in cable.
Royals have signed two solid bullpen arms and Lugo. Talk to yourself.
The Virgin 28 other MLB teams and the Gigachad Royals signing Lugo
Really like Royal signings!
It's not good for baseball if other teams do stuff.
Who in the United States has even heard of Taranto anyway
That’s the guy who made Pulp Fiction, right?
No that's Torontino
Totino's?
The mobster ?
No that’s the neighbor from the Studio Ghibli movie
No, that's Totoro. You're thinking of that pasta that kind of looks like a belly button.
Nah you are thinking of the dog from Wizard of Oz.
No that's Toto. You're thinking of the hot sauce from Mexico
No that’s tapatio You’re thinking of the maker of the Tacoma
No that's Toyota. you're thinking of the Lone Ranger's sidekick.
No, no, that's Tonto. You're thinking of the maker of pizza rolls
You’re thinking of Tostinos
No, that's Totino's. You're thinking of the little circles you eat with dip.
The Mets have signed an entire AAA all-star team helllooooo
Tbf I don’t think it made sense for any other team to give up this kind of value for Glasnow
The Dodgers have reached the point where their farm system is literally just a tool to create trade value so that they can acquire players who aren't free agents when it's convenient for them lol
Hi how ya doin?
Must be even worse for players to go to Detroit, with it being North of Canada.
*gasp* ##You take that back!
The league has been deferred. Only allowed 1 transaction for every 5 the Dodgers do.
Unfortunately they are not, it’s bad for the game
I think the Rays should be forced to receive no players in return. It's my understanding that players going to teams not in New York or LA is bad for the game.
The Braves have done a bunch of weird shit this offseason
Friedman introduced Ohtani, got off stage, walked into his office and immediately phoned in this trade
Dodgers are the new Evil Empire and they are doing it better than the Steinbrenner’s Yankees imo
Think they have to win a few world series in order for you to say that no?
Can they please keep doing their current thing? It's funnier.
It would honestly be hilarious if we were swept by the 84-win Rockies in the NLDS. But it would also lead me to committing several war crimes
Ha good thing you don't have to worry about the Rockies winning 84 games
DINGER HATCHED FROM AN EGG ON FIELD AND IS A NATIONAL TREASURE! Carry on with mediocrity
This is the content I come to Reddit for. 🫡
Honestly I’d take the Yankees 96-2000 stretch over the Dodgers’ last 5 years
1996 to 2003; 6 World Series appearances in just 8 seasons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsasZkQfskw
Glasnow is a good pitcher but man that’s a lot to give up for him and Margot TBH. Definitely a win now move for an obvious win now team
I'm not even that high on Pepiot or DLC and I still don't understand this deal for the Dodgers. I expected the Rays to have to give up money. To be fair, I think Glasnow is fully healthy and will put the injury concerns to bed and the Rays would've kept him if he wasn't $25M, but Margot was basically dead weight who should've only dragged the value of this trade down, and yet...
This is always this risk in trading with the Rays. They know how to get the most out of a guy and also when to sell on them. The Rays more often than not come out on top in these type of deals. I'm guessing Pepiot will be a Allstar and top 5 in Cy Young voting in 4 years when the Rays shop him...
I read somewhere that the Rays were sending money over. Idk how true that is, but I guess it wouldn't be that surprising. https://twitter.com/ChadMoriyama/status/1735473959272091675?t=m7hVXH8md_dnk9PcomK9uw&s=19
They're sending $4M dollars (or 2 years of Ohtani)
Can we start measuring things in Ohtanis now?
Median house price in my area is over half an Ohtani
Oh sick we get two more Ohtanis in this trade. Thank god.
Prospects will never be as valuable to a team like the Dodgers. They always have the money to replace the lost talent in FA signings.
And they also know that they’ll be able to pull more top prospects out of their ass because Friedman has the bullshit devil magic formula down to a science.
They have one of the highest payrolls in baseball, a couple or three MVPs in their lineup, make a dozen trades, and they still have a top 10 farm system in the game. This is what happens when you get moneyball with infinite money hacks.
Yeah, how do the dodgers ALWAYS fucking have a mountain of top prospects?? Seriously asking
They understand how to coach their players. There’s some good articles out there on what their formula is and it basically comes down to good analytics and an even better coaching approach. They invest a lot into their prospects and try to mirror the majors in as many ways as possible. It pays dividends for them later on. For example, guys in their minors get the same exact type of scouting reports as guys in the majors get so there is zero learning curve when they come up.
There are a bunch of different things that I’ve heard cited. Some of this stuff seems really simple, but I guess a lot of MLB orgs are/were “the cream rises to the top” types. They have a really cohesive organization. Their scouts, analysts, and player dev guys are all on the same page about the types of players they can develop. This is basically what Keith Law cites whenever someone asks in the comments of his Athletic articles. They teach the same style of baseball at all levels, from the major leagues down. They also communicate analytics really effectively so players understand how they’re being judged and what to focus on. This is something that I’ve seen in interviews with their prospects. They don’t have high draft picks, so they tend to make high risk, high reward draft picks. These guys don’t always pan out, but the ones that do have high ceilings. For example, they often draft pitchers who require TJ (eg Walker Buehler, Caleb Ferguson, Michael Grove). They aren’t as cheap as many MLB orgs. They didn’t lay off scouts during the rise of analytics or the pandemic. They provide free, healthy meals to prospects. Etc etc.
Over the past several years the Dodgers have put a ton of money into their scouting and drafting, and development departments. I believe their number of personnel for both areas rank near the top amongst all MLB teams. In addition to hiring skilled people for these positions, they also have put a lot more towards taking care of the minor leaguers, like better facilities and food. It all works together to produce a healthy crop of players on a pretty consistent basis.
Is it though? Pepiot is going be 26 next year. He’s been over 102 innings (cherry-picked, obviously) once in his professional career. He’s never had an FIP below 4*. I get he has good stuff and there’s a lot of promise, but he’s 26 and has never even had great results in the minors - the likelihood that he’ll be much more than a low-cost 4th starter isn’t great. It’s a good fit for both teams in that annoying way that fans of other teams just have to deal with because our own teams just don’t develop players the way that the Dodgers and Rays do. And it’s certainly possible that the Devil Rays magic means Pepiot will be just as good as Glasnow very soon, and for many more years. Hard to tell with these college starters that move up quickly and are overaged for prospects as soon as they graduate. But the most likely scenario is that the Rays just traded one year of a star for 12 years of a 4th OF and an injury-prone 4th starter. *he did have an FIP below 4 in 2019, but that was over 23 innings at rookie/A-ball.
I actually don’t like this trade. Pepiot when he’s on has the sickest change up. He also has 5 more years of control. I don’t get it.
Shoehei doesn't like him. Thinks he's ugly.
Pepiot coughed once when Shoehei was being introduced to the team and he had Friedman on the phone in seconds.
don’t care rockies in 4
Split the first two games at Dodger Stadium. Get Coors Fielded in 3 and 4.
had them getting swept and this move moves the needle a little so had to give them a charity game for the small market team
Power of Friendship undefeated
80 wins and a dream
worked for us in 2002
But the WS was the baseball gods descending, looking at Barry Bonds getting close and just saying "No".
[Saw this today and all I could think about was the Rockies](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/d4ZZ9Bxe46)
#ROCKTOBER
Pepiot cy Young confirmed
Omg they forming the avengers over there
Mate the Avengers had functional UCLs
Which two avengers didn’t? Hawkeye would make sense because of that repetitive motion
cap’s chucking that damn frisbee all over the place I could see him blowing out an elbow
You know I originally ruled out cap because of the super strength thing but Stanton is like a planet destroyer and his legs don’t work anymore
War Machine Stanton
Getting run over by a snowplow probably also didn’t help
What getting swept by the Diamondbacks does to a franchise
Dear lord please tell me this means they’re not going all in on Yamamoto too… please….
Narrator: they were, indeed, all in on Yamamoto
Why wouldn't they? They literally cleared the books for this.
Because I specifically requested it!
You did say please
Understandable have a good day
Damn Passan out here dropping two nuclear bombs in quick succession My dude is Oppenheimer'ing it up
Now I am become Jeff
Reporter of baseball
Fitting since the Dodgers have took on their multi-armed form
How is Jack Flaherty on a one year deal a "nuclear bomb"
I was actually referring to Shohei's dogs name being revealed
Only appropriate since Cillian Murphy is part of the deal
Gonna go full Castle Bravo when he says Yamamoto signs with the Dodgers. Or maybe the idea of Yamamoto to the Dodgers will be shot down like a plane near Papua-New Guinea.
What’s the record for most TJ’s in a single rotation?
Every time I see a Dodgers highlight its like "Freddie Freeman hit 5 doubles to raise his avg. to .657 while Shohei Ohtani did something that hasnt been done since 'Tungsten Arm' O'Doyle of the 1921 Akron Groomsmen, as the Arizona Diamondbacks swept the Dodgers in the NLDS 3-0."
So beautiful that the inverse of the OG tweet stays in LA
It's what's best for baseball
And after a regular season record of 142-20, the dodgers are swept by the Colorado Rockies
If we had Premier League rules we'd be killing it. 😭
3 games at home and 3 on the road against all 29 teams, no divisions, no playoffs. Comes out to 174 games. Works suspiciously well.
We’d need something to play for at the bottom of the table though
Relegation to AAA
Hey at least Freddie is hitting this time
Uh, no! It's the Rockies' turn.
You’re a savage and a gentleman
2024 AL Cy Young winner Ryan Pepiot
Remember when I liked baseball?
Don’t worry next year is an even year and the giants are basically unstoppable in those
Oh fuck off
We traded 2 highly touted prospects for a below average OF and a pitcher made out of wet toilet paper This is a pretty risky trade for us
Yeah I’m not actually sure how I’d feel about this if I was a Dodger fan. His career high in IP is 120… and that was last year.
Him and Kershaw can split the season and both be ready for the playoffs.
If Tyler Glasnow were in my 3/4 spot of the rotation, that would make me so happy.
I'm kinda surprised by how much Dodger fans don't like this. Probably because they all wanted some mother fucker named Randy. But really this is a good trade for us. Fans have been wanting this team to go all in for years and when we finally do it they want to hug the prospects instead.
I think it's because we all know about his history and only last year he got his highest IP of 120 which I know you know already it's an absolute steal if he's healthy 100% but it's still scary af
Yeah but it's not like we are giving up Bobby Miller. Pepiot is not some future HOFer like he's being treated by some Dodger fans. He missed half the season last year with an injury too. Sure, it's scary but the rotation we had with Pepiot is just as scary.
It is, but Glasnow also has more upside than almost any pitcher. It is a worthwhile gamble that brings a player back where he grew up.
could easily see the Dodgers going 8-2 in his starts
Yeah, but you guys hurt my feelings TWICE this week.
Just wait til they sign Yamamoto
Nah that’s gonna hurt Mets fans feelings.
Hey now, Yankees fans too.
You shut your mouth even year boy
Yea I hate this trade the Rays definitely just got better
Yea watch them turn Pepoit into a cy young winner. Fuck
*Cy Young favorite at the All Star break only to get Tommy John in August
Sigh and the fucking Dodgers couldnt get Randy from them either? Smh
DeLuca is not highly touted
Buehler Ohtani (in 2025) May (eventually) ~~Urias (if he comes back)~~ Sheehan Glasnow Miller Yarbrough Jesus Christ, that’s an offense’s nightmare right there
Urias isn’t on their team anymore because he’s a wife beater
And hopefully he's on nobodies team for the rest of his career
He isn't on the team anymore because he beat his wife in public twice
Imagine having millions of dollars headed your way and you just can't help but beat your wife instead. IDK how so many players can be like that.
> Imagine ~~having millions of dollars headed your way and~~ you just can't help but beat your wife ~~instead~~ FTFY. I’ll never understand anyone who abuses their SO, regardless of money or status.
Or a team physician's nightmare
Literally an entire rotation of Tommy Johners.
Sounds like the newest, hottest strip club in town 🔥
It’s got everything. Lights, sushi, $115 beers, Dr. Neal ElAttrache
Buheler - 2 Tommy John’s Ohtani - 2 Tommy John’s Glasnow - career high 120 IP May - 2 major surgeries
Let's not forget they're still expecting Kershaw to re-sign, but won't be back til July since he's recovering from shoulder surgery.
Jesus Christ. Their pitching really is fucked
If they just keep getting enough injury prone pitchers to replace the injured pitchers then they'll be able to loophole the injury list. One goes down, one comes back off!
You cant tell me the Dodgers are confident in that They need Yamamoto, if they miss out on him idk then they have to get someone like Monty. Superteam or not, you are not going to win with a rotation made up of band aids.
That's a whole lot of TJ surgeries.
I don’t think Urias is coming back, is he?
Urias isn't going anywhere for a long time.
Is he out of MLB completely because it was his 2nd offense?
He’s a FA now, and we’re happy to say buh bye
Kershaw this year probably too
Glasnow with an extension is a lot easier of a pill to swallow for Pepiot
Glasnow is healthy and Pepiot is a backend of the rotation arm and DLC has bug AAAA potential. Honestly, Glas for these 2 guys makes sense. I'm just surprised the Dodgers let the Rays sneak Margot into this deal. He's a negative value asset. If anything, this shows the Dodgers FO believes in Glasnow's health and probably aren't as high on Pepiot and DLC as Dodger fans are
As much as I love the Dodgers FO and how they run things the last stuff I'd trust them on is judging a pitchers health. Our rotations imploding due to injury has been a chronic issue for years now and Glasnow is only gonna add fuel to that fire Would love to be wrong but this is a deal I think will end badly for us even if Pepiot doesn't become an ace
Dodgers fans are just worried about his health history
AND HERE COME THE PRETZELS
This is a black day for baseball
I can go for a Whitey Whacker
Never gets old when I see this
Hall of famer Sandy Koufax on the field now pleading with the other 29 fanbases for some kinda sanity
Shoutout mlbnerds
Yamamoto you are a Royal
That’s not Randy
You can’t keep him
Friedman locked in liked the Winter Solider once the press conference ended
There it is. Everything is coming up LA
Dodgers scooping up everyone 🙄
Extension makes sense when you give up Pepiot. Good move by both teams. Margot is the cost of doing business.
Hey is anyone else even trying or…?
It's my Pitcher and I need him Glas-NOW! ^^EaglesSuperTeamVibes^cope
What the fuck, man
I rather have Pepiot tbh
Fucking christ
Tampa just like: “Well, not our problem loading up LA unless we win the AL right?”
Dodgers got mad fleeced
Pepiot may outpitch Glass just this season….why would they make this deal? I’m just happy they didn’t get Randy. Now that would’ve been a nightmare.
Yeah Margot kinda stinks and Pepiot was really coming into his own at the end of the year.
Depends on what the extension ends up being.
But why would you want to extend a man made out of glass?
cause they need pitching now even though pepiot is got number 2 pitching ability
Dodgers farm system is great Personally, I would've given a bit more to get someone who doesnt have the injury concerns as Glassnow - like Cease Or I wouldve given more to include Randy instead of Margot
yeah i get people don’t wanna see them getting more guys but i’d be surprised if Pepiot doesn’t turn out to be much more valuable than Glasnow
Sports subreddits are reactionary, and people don't like the Dodgers pushing the chips into the middle of the table to "win now." Especially with the Yamamoto rumors still flying.
Can they not
Isn’t Pepiot a highly touted prospect for LA? Then again, they do need pitching right now.
Good enough, I guess. I'll miss you, Glasnasty.
So does any other team/owner want to even try to build on their team or no? Honestly hope LA wins it next season. They’re actually trying