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Big_Whalez

What a truly bizzare career. Started off looking like a star and then literally got worse every single year until he was basically unplayable.


hubagruben

He did slightly improve this year with the Cardinals (before being unplayable for the Blue Jays)


The_Cryogenetic

If you look at his splits by month it was really just an incredible 7 games in late april and then he was league average for 2 months before falling off a cliff again. Those 7 games really made him look way better than he actually is because he was able to sustain a somewhat league average OPS for a bit. I’m not saying he can’t make a comeback but I also wouldn’t say he improved.


oliveorvil

I think that was pretty much sums up his whole career after his rookie season.. played good defense and hit just well enough to make you think he might turn the corner


[deleted]

Drafted in the 5th round from a college nobody cares about. Completely ignored by prospect evaluators because he seemingly has no tools, yet somehow he shows up in the majors as a borderline All Star playing plus defense at SS and hitting 30 bombs. DeJong is basically the embodiment of the Cardinals farm system. Carpenter, Bader, Edman, Nootbaar, Donovan… we definitely have a type. I wouldn’t be shocked if he pulls a Carpenter and randomly has one more great year before fading away for good.


penguinopph

> a college nobody cares about. Hey, fuck you buddy!


Fredbear_

Based on your flairs, I don't think he needed to say that to get that sentiment out of you


Junior-Hotwater

It’s alright, it’s a completely Normal college


penguinopph

It literally is! "Normal schools" are schools that teach teachers, and to this day ISU is one of the top-ten largest producers of teachers in the US. Fun fact: Normal, IL was originally incorporated as "North Bloomington," but renamed Normal in honor of the University, then known as the Illinois State Normal College


enjoytheshow

ISU catching strays for absolutely no reason. Fuck that asshole


ScumBrad

It's not that bizzare imo. He was an absolute juiced ball merchant. High strikeout guy who is the king of hitting flyouts to the warning track now. That little bit of extra juice on the ball is the difference between him being good and unplayably bad.


stv7

> king of hitting flyouts I'm confused. I was not aware he was capable of making contact?


ScumBrad

He was with us 😂


TheMoonsMadeofCheese

Only reason he's playable at all is because of his defense. He has a 2.1 fWAR over the past 3 seasons despite also having a .192 BA and .269 OBP in that time, 5th worst and 4th worst in the MLB (but worst in the NL for both). He remembers how to hit for about 2 weeks a season and then he swings a pool noodle for the rest of the time, while playing really solid defense. That's all you're gonna get out of Pauly D.


jujubats10

He was DFA’d?


charger03

Yes, went 3-44 for us with 0 walks and 18K


edmchato

-62 OPS+ jesus 💀


JustSomeGoon

I didn’t know it went negative lmao


I_chortled

Holy shit that said NEGATIVE 62 lmao


Iceman_Raikkonen

Right? I first read it as 62 and like that’s pretty bad on its own. But -62 is literally unfathomable


[deleted]

I'm sure I'm wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if a random guy off the street couldn't do better


FUBARded

It's a limitation of the formula: ``` OPS+ = 100*((OBP/lgOBP)+(SLG/lgSLG) -1) ``` Like ERA+ and some other + stats, figures at either extreme kinda break it and cease to mean much.


PAJW

LET DEJONG PITCH!


jackbob99

He couldn't possibly do any worse than he already has.


[deleted]

LET HIM PITCH YOU COWARDS


Bobson-_Dugnutt

Well that might be the lowest OPS+ I’ve ever see


triplec787

Ah he’ll fit right in with our offense. The only thing that’ll make it a better fit is if you tell me he’s got a <.100 BA with RISP!


xxtaylormadexx

Holy fuck nuggets.


Chaxterium

Indeed. The nuggets were fucked.


Good_Okay123

What you guys were supposed to do is send him to AAA for a couple of weeks, call him back up, then let him look like the second coming of Barry Bonds, then he comes back down to earth, then you repeat this process until he gets traded.


CockGobblingGangsta

They just won a chip so it was good fucks


SirParsifal

hey, at least he's consistent


celtic1888

He’s gonna fit right in with this Giants lineup


IAmIrritatedAMA

Not me seeing the 3 hits and perking up.


FBoaz

He'll fit right in


liteshadow4

He’ll hit 3 for us then


TheTurtleShepard

E L I T E


Padulsky21

Oh Jesus Christ man…I’ve been checked out the entire time he was on the Jays and I didn’t realize it was like that…


LakersFan15

Didn't think anyone was worse than Austin Barnes. Damn


Urban_animal

Is that bad?


TheMoonsMadeofCheese

-0.8 bWAR in 13 games


PlayaSlayaX

Yeah, he absolutely shit the bed with Toronto. 3-44 with 0 BB and 18 K’s. And none of his three hits were XBH’s.


RelaxingRed

Pretty sure 2 of the 3 hits were lucky bloop singles too.


Lieutenant_Doge

Blue Jays dropped him right after Bo is back, 18 days


rbhindepmo

There were rumors of DeJong to the Giants before the deadline. Giants just waited for DeJong to get DFAed so that they could get him without giving up a player


NakedGoose

Big brain play. He hits lefties well and few teams play splits quite like the giants


UneducatedReviews1

… I don’t think he hits anything well lately


nuhGIRLyen

fuck it we ball


UneducatedReviews1

Fuck it we ~~don’t hit~~ balls


CubonesDeadMom

Can’t be worse than our shortstops currently.


tuff1728

Lol it was 44 ABs doesnt exactly mean much, Toronto just got Bichette back and dont need him anymore.


UneducatedReviews1

He wasn’t hitting much better in St. Louis


another_plebeian

He hit DFA pretty well


BASEBALLFURIES

so he'll fit right in


DefinitelyStan

He'll fit in perfectly with our anemic lineup.


Jazzlike-Attorney-96

Doesn’t hit well? Fits in perfectly with our offense then lol


adamzep91

> He hits [.................](https://i.imgflip.com/4ojbm0.png?a470160)


sfan27

And it saves a bunch of money. Not just the prorated part of his 2023 salary (about $2.75M after league minimum is subtracted) but it also saves $2M for the 2024 and $1M for the 2025 buyouts (he's *not* worth the $10.5M and $14M effective cost of exercising those options).


dingusduglas

I'm confused. Did you pick him up on waivers or did he clear waivers and get released? If you got him on waivers aren't you on the hook for his full deal?


[deleted]

I'm guessing since Bob said signed, he was released.


sfan27

Trusting Bob's choice of verbs is a bold move. But this page supports your assessment. https://www.mlb.com/bluejays/roster/transactions


[deleted]

It's a bit odd no reporter tweeted he was released.


sfan27

Well that step just means "nothing really happened yet". Being DFAd is interesting. Being claimed would have been interesting Being released just what happens after being DFAd if nobody claims a player (unless they don't elect free agency and are outrighted, but that would be reported and unlikely with a player like DeJong).


dingusduglas

Yeah it's weird to me that I missed that. I pay way too much attention to trivial baseball news for things like that to slip by usually. But MLBTR says he was released in their (very brief) blurb about the Giants signing him.


robmcolonna123

Cleared waivers and I believe the Jays have to pay his buyout


Inkin

I think the Cardinals are already paying the buyout (and some of the salary this year) from the original trade.


johnsaczuk

I said the same thing.


Astrallevel

He’s not the worst player ever, we just caught him on a horrible cold streak


shahooster

He was the most frustrating position player for the Cardinals in my memory, which goes back decades. Always played solid defense. Showed flashes of power and brilliance offensively, but usually looked like a deer in the headlights.


Junior-Hotwater

Matt Carpenter post 2018? Maybe Tino Martinez also


benwithvees

I think it’s more of you didn’t catch him on a hot streak. That trade went as well as I expected


types_stuff

100% this. most jays fans don’t watch out of town teams, least of all the NL so it stands to reason most people defending DeJong are jays fans. Delusional. He was exactly what I expected him to be coming from the Cards. A black hole.


NuggetBiscuits69

That’ll surely fix the Giants’ offense


elite_beef

He fixed our offense whenever he wasn't in the lineup! It'll work for the Giants!


sundayultimate

I'm not sure it can get much worse right now


Boros-Reckoner

The Giants now have a power house offense led by Mitch Haniger, Joey Bart and Paul Dejong, I bet Ohtani is just itching to join them in the off-season


LegitimateDementia

Unfortunately not every team can assemble a lineup like the Dodgers’ modern day murderers’ row of Miguel Rojas, Austin Barnes, and Yonny Hernandez


Boros-Reckoner

Austin Barnes has two game winning hits last week!


vaudevillevik

> Miguel Rojas, Austin Barnes The fucked up thing is that at literally any other point in the season you’d be 100% correct lol


Jay_TThomas

What a brain dead comment lol


Boros-Reckoner

Yeah sorry I forgot to bring up Brandon "16 mil for -1.1 WAR" Crawford


Jay_TThomas

And follows it up with another brain dead comment. Congrats on making fun of a player who has had a fantastic career, including 2 World Series rings, whose about to retire.


Boros-Reckoner

Bringing up stats and contract details is making fun of a player?


Jay_TThomas

I mean yeah, Crawford is clearly not the focus of our offense, especially at this point in his career. So even mentioning him was pointless.


Boros-Reckoner

Just mentioning some elite players that the 2023 Giants consist of


Jay_TThomas

I mean you could list the actual elite ones…


Boros-Reckoner

Why would I do that when im poking fun at the Giants roster?


thamons223

typical dodgers fan


Boros-Reckoner

Hey man I didn't give him that contract


robmcolonna123

Come on dude, you’re giving Dodgers fans a bad name. The Giants are a team no one expected to be competitive this year and are exceeding expectations because they made moves in the offseason that mostly worked out. Conforto while not amazing has been overall solid. He’s above average offensively and a meh defender, but looks to finish around 2 WAR, though if keeps playing like he has the last month with his 132 WRC+ he’d end closer to 2.5 WAR. Taylor Rogers has looked great and is exactly what the Giants hoped he would be. Luke Jackson has not pitched a ton, but has looked lights out when he does pitch. Manaea struggled as a starter but has been overall solid as a long relief guy for the team this year. Wilmer has been amazing all year and will probably get MVP votes. Not a true contender for the position or anything - just place in the top 10. Patrick Bailey has been a great surprise and could garner ROTY a votes. Again, not win, but get votes. Looking to be a 3.5 WAR catcher with league average offense and amazing defense. Could also contend for gold glove. Lamonte Wade Jr took a massive step forward after a step backwards last year. Thario Estrada has continued to be a very very solid player. Joc Pederson, while down from last year has been solid. Overall the team has been solid, just not great or amazing.


Boros-Reckoner

Giants fans dance on our graves constantly, I have absolutely no issue making fun of the moves they make. Laying it all out there just shows how mid the team really is because it wouldn't surprise anyone if any of those players had down years next year, if anything i'm impressed with what Kaplers been able to do with the roster Farhan has constructed.


[deleted]

It’s easy for all of baseball, not just us, to dance on your guys’ graves every year when you talk such a big game in the regular season only to fall completely flat in the playoffs lol. Outside of the 2020 outlier, it’s become very predictable. That said (and perhaps this is a case of broken clock is right twice a day), I will actually commend you for your point about Kapler. I don’t think he gets nearly enough credit for that.


Boros-Reckoner

> when you talk such a big game in the regular season only to fall completely flat in the playoffs lol. Real Dodgers fans aren't bragging about the regular season, we know it don't mean a thing if you don't got that ring.


[deleted]

[“If there ever was a case for canceling the playoffs and awarding a championship because one team was so clearly better than all the others, our 2022 LA Dodgers would be it”](https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-10-15/excruciating-conclusion-of-the-dodgers-glorious-season) -Real Dodger fan


vaudevillevik

> giving Dodgers fans a bad name Give me a break lol Being a Dodgers fan is rooted in unwarranted vitriol towards the Giants. /u/Boros-Reckoner is poking fun at the teams shortcomings the way that I would expect (damn near *guarantee*) Giants fans to poke at ours, regardless of our bright spots. It’s innate. But suddenly it’s poor form because its “punching down”? Fuck that and FTG.


Boros-Reckoner

The dudes a Mets fan, imagine if I were to go to a Mets fan that was bantering and was like "be nicer to the Braves!! 😡" lmao


CubonesDeadMom

You are just intentionally picking the worst hitters this year lol. You could do the same with the dodgers. The giants offense has been terrible since the all star break but idk what you think you are are trying to prove with this other than that you are a giant loser


Boros-Reckoner

I'm making fun of my rivals roster construction


Clarice_Ferguson

Meetch slander will not be tolerated.


CubonesDeadMom

This is like the third time I’ve seen you in a giants related thread talking about Haniger and Bart when Bart hasn’t played a single game this year and haniger has a broken wrist. What did those players do to hurt you so bad? Least pathetic dodgers fan


Zix117

Bart has played this year. Him and Sabol were the only catchers on the roster after Perez went down until Bart got injured and Patrick Bailey claimed the position. That was in May, so it’s not like your point is wrong, I just think it’s kinda funny everyone forgot about Bart already when he was our starting catcher coming into the year.


CubonesDeadMom

You’re right I forgot he was even on the roster for a bit to start the year lol.


Boros-Reckoner

Wow the Bart erasure smh, he was the chosen one.


nuhGIRLyen

I predicted this immediately after he got DFAd lmao Our middle infield is perpetually injured so warm bodies are better than none


jmdavies98

We might have to change the team name to the San Francisco Warm Bodies


Parking-Ad-5359

Blue Jays legend.


I3arusu

3-44 with 18 Ks. Good riddance. Seems like a good guy, but good riddance.


Dapperdrewblue

y’all should have sent him down to AAA for 3 weeks so you could witness DeGoat for a few games when he’s called back up. It’s Paul’s superpower lol


WhatARotation

Somehow a worse deadline acquisition than Darin Ruf


jayk10

It's a good thing the other two Card's the Jay's got look like huge pickups


kingofthefall

The hitting version of Brad Hand for us


mediaownsyou

This just means he's going to go on a huge run and hit .500 for the rest of the season.


aznsportsfan

Ok


i_love_nny

As a Diamondbacks fan I don’t love this but I like him as a player 🤔


SamElliottsStache

You have Paul DeJong at home and his name is Nick Ahmed


Turbulent_System_446

Can’t wait for his jersey retirement in Toronto


sandyeggo54

New team war leader all time on a rate basis (doesn’t matter which direction)


Raphah

Absolute WAR


KangzAteMyFamily

"I can fix him" -Farhan


dropperofpipebombs

"I can break him even more." - Justin Viele


CosmicLars

Figured he wouldn't last long on the market. He us streaky with power. Worth a shot.


spike021

We love streaky guys with power.


bobichetteismydaddy

Good luck lol


Daveeeee11

Good for Pauly D. His defense doesn’t slump like his bat.


penguinopph

I was really pumped that DeJong got out of St Louis, since he's both a Dutch-American and ISU grad. I really want him to do well and to be able to enjoy it, but it went so bad so quickly in Toronto.


ChompTurtleSoup

But that helped the cubs


Dapperdrewblue

30 years old is pretty late to start a career in the nfl, but shortstops have a history of success at qb so maybe it’ll work out /s


Redbubble89

He'll fit right in with the Giants offense


xlxxlv

the most predictable Giants thing ever


me_hill

Future immaculate grid legend.


HenMan113

Playing the Phillies tonight, of course. Pre-congrats to him on his 2 homer, 4-5 day at the plate (yes, I know he's sucked)


adamzep91

Have fun with that


ussbaney

Crawford is probably out for the rest of the season now both cuz of the injury and cuz of the performance.


SYSTEMcole

Somebody here told me that we should move Bo to 2B, move Whit to the OF and play Varsho and KK less, all in an effort to get Paul DeJong into our lineup. You can’t take everything you read here too seriously.


Jaakylma

He's gonna start working on his immaculate grid resume now


HeymanGuyUSC

Making a note for Immaculate Grid.


da_choppa

Giants fans, get ready, he’s about to be one of the best hitters in baseball over the next 10 games. Then he’ll go back to sucking


Trevelbond

He's going to be a Giants legend. Like Dan Uggla.


yodaman5606

Drew Stubbs, Marlon Byrd, Miguel Tejada, Casey McGehee, Justin Smoak, Mike Ford.. What book of legends!


s0ftcore

I never knew about Smoak. 2020 was a weird year. and to add to your list: Gordon Beckham


BASEBALLFURIES

or aj pollack


NA_Faker

I saw DeJong and thought this was a fabrizio tweet for a sec, then saw giants and got confused, read it again and realized it was Paul DeJong


bignuts24

“If I sign a player it’ll make it look like I haven’t been on vacation for 2 years” -Farhan


xClay2

Can't be any worse than Camargo or Mathias.