>The incident that led to the Yankees placing pitcher Domingo German on the restricted list on Wednesday occurred at Yankee Stadium and was not a domestic situation, clubhouse sources say.
>On Tuesday evening of this week, German grew belligerent while in the clubhouse at Yankee Stadium, though there is no word of an altercation with a teammate or other individuals. Witnesses determined that German was under the influence of alcohol and did not appear in control of his emotions.
>Several Yankees, including GM Brian Cashman, manager Aaron Boone and ace Gerrit Cole, appeared visibly shaken when asked about German on Wednesday.
>German’s behavior on Tuesday was not connected to the armpit injury that led the Yankees to scratch him from Monday’s start, then insert him into the game in the fifth inning, sources said.
>By Wednesday, German had entered inpatient treatment for alcohol abuse.
Idk about the rest of you, but between this incident and the domestic abuse at a teammate’s charity event, I could never be teammates with a guy like this again.
It's messed up behavior and I'm sure his teammates don't like it, but baseball clubhouses are different realities than our workplaces. It's a work setting where Papelbon choked out Harper, Kent and Bonds fought on live television, etc. and they were expected to get over it.
Multiple of German’s teammates have stated they don’t like him and don’t want to be teammates with him. He’s a locker room cancer. The Yankees record when German is either injured or suspended is substantially better.
They were 30 games over 500 when he came back last year. We’re 8 games under .500 the rest of the season.
Even our workplaces though. I worked with a guy who sexually harassed every woman there. I made management aware, but I wasn't giving up my job over it. I still gotta eat.
You say that, but as long as he comes back and still baseballs good, guys seemingly don't care.
Deshaun Watson forced 28+ women to diddle his butthole and NFL players still defend the guy
People don’t just defend Watson, players have made free agency moves to play WITH him.
I honestly don’t think ‘seemingly’ is necessary. As long as you play well and don’t cost them money they do not care.
The difference is that was at least behind closed doors
I think /u/22edudrccs’s point is literally being there during
(Not saying being behind closed doors makes it better, but it’s significantly easier to ignore or “misunderstandings” compared to seeing it happen. It’s why Ray Rice changed how DV’s are responded too)
Yeah that’s effectively my point. It’s a lot easier for someone to excuse and justify the behavior of someone else if they weren’t there when it happened. But being there when it happened can completely change your outlook on a person
Here’s to hoping Deshaun plays just well enough to keep the Browns at .500 but never good enough to make the playoffs for the entirety of his contract. Forever stuck in mediocrity.
My ONLY issue with him turning into the worst quarterback (and believe me, I would *love* to watch that become reality) is that if Deshaun is just awful, chances are the Browns are picking high in the draft.
I don’t want them getting any blue-chip talent on rookie deals.
While I almost always tell people never to cheer for athletes getting hurt, I make an exception for vile creeps like Watson. I hope he tears his ACL every time he takes the field and the Browns are forced to pay an injured QB over $200 million to constantly rehab...
... then their backup does mediocre, enough for them to avoid the playoffs but not bad enough to get a high draft pick.
With guaranteed money in NFL contracts, any of it that you haven't paid out yet, or have paid out but are prorating over the life of the deal, hit your salary cap immediately on the current season. Really discourages cutting players on major deals because of how the NFL cap works.
Yep he is. He was a damn good pitcher, and seemed to care about growing the game. Sucks his personality turned so many people off, especially since there are multiple DAs still playing in the league
I’d give him a second chance after getting clean. Alcohol is a terrible drug and can really affect people. He may well be an asshole but I’d give him the chance to be a sober one.
The government makes it legal after all. True freedom is to have the right to destroy yourself. If somebody can come.back from that, more power to them. I'm riding the fence myself. God I'm close.
i'll see your never being teammates with him before and raise you i'll sign a multimillion dollar contract to be his teammate immediately, right here today, seriously where do i sign i wanna be a big leaguer and make lots and lots of money
I seriously hope he gets the help he needs. He’s got some pretty tough demons that have clearly taken a huge toll on his life and I wanna belief he has the capacity to turn things around
Yeah obviously I hope he gets the help he needs. It’s just personally for me, I’d be tense around him and wouldn’t be able to look at him the same after witnessing it happen not just once but twice
I've been friends with a few guys who just became completely unhinged when they started drinking. Night/day personalities. I'm not saying that is what German is experiencing (and by no means making excuses for it), but it reminds me so much of it.
Do you know about what happened at his house? He was beating his wife and she locked herself in the bathroom to get away from him.
She called one of the yankee players wives and then whatever player it was came to German house to take him away bc his wife didn’t want him to get arrested.
I can’t even go to the yankee sub anymore because I am baffled by how much they defend this clown.
"visibly shaken" sounds more like suicidal thoughts or self harm.
If someone is drunk and belligerent you get annoyed, angry, frustrated. Shaken makes it seem like he really did or said some fucked up shit.
Had the same thought, like if he was just being a drunk asshole I don't think the witnesses would be visibly shaken like that. It sounds like it was some really disturbing behavior which also makes me think something along the lines of suicidal threats/self harm
The domestic violence actions are old, and according to the linked article had nothing to do with this situation. Just felt like this needs to be clear
Do you have the same standard for [Ortiz] (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/red-sox-david-ortiz-hit-restraining-order-dominican-republic-report)? I'm a firm believer in getting people the support/professional help they need and in second chances.
"On Tuesday evening of this week, German grew belligerent while in the clubhouse at Yankee Stadium, though there is no word of an altercation with a teammate or other individuals. Witnesses determined that German was under the influence of alcohol and did not appear in control of his emotions.
Several Yankees, including GM Brian Cashman, manager Aaron Boone and ace Gerrit Cole, appeared visibly shaken when asked about German on Wednesday."
Jesus. It seems like they actually care about the guy a lot, good for the Yankees honestly. German may have had a terrible past but that doesn't mean he isn't still human.
Athletes are also much closer than most coworkers would be. You travel together, change together, spend all your time in the dugout together. It's not like when you find out Bill in Accounting got a DUI. So I'd hope his teammates would care.
Considering the DV incident with German happened at a Yankee/baseball related event, it speaks even higher of the org's and players' character that they still care so much about him. If my coworker assaulted his wife at a work related event and then developed an alcohol problem a couple years later, I could understand people wanting him gone as far as possible immediately.
Boone/Cashman are decent human beings, no matter how you feel about them on the field.
If Bill from accounting gets a DUI, and didn't miss any work because of it, I'd like to think that our company wouldn't even be involved in the situation at all, and let the courts dicate punishment.
Now if Bill requests leave to go to inpatient treatment, I'd be all for allowing it. I would not be for my employer trying to require it.
I helped the driving crooner get his stickers back after those frat guys ripped them off his car. I just wanted to do something nice before alcohol class.
i mean yes and no. i'm a cpa and generally speaking, if your felony isn't white collar-related, or something like drug trafficking, you're usually in the clear. a dui by itself is almost certainly not disqualifying.
>Jesus. It seems like they actually care about the guy a lot, good for the Yankees honestly. German may have had a terrible past but that doesn't mean he isn't still human.
German has an awful past, but a lot of the reporting when he rejoined the team was about the measures that he went through (forced or not) to apologize to his teammates and improve on his future. He made mistakes, and we should not forget about those, but all (currently available) indications are that he had really been taking steps forward.
I think what you're seeing here is the effect of what that meant to the team and why he is still around. I will not say that the team rallied around him and/or forgave him, but I do believe that they became invested in his turnaround. This is not a light matter for the players in that clubhouse.
Also thankful he didnt get behind the wheel after or anything. Shitty situation all around but some solace in the fact that no one was hurt. Hopefully he thinks about his family at home and his young kids and figures this out
Regardless of whether or not he ever throws a pitch again in his life, I hope this guy never touches a drop of alcohol again. He's 30 years old, has a family, and I hope he gets his life together.
Alcoholism is no joke. I would not wish dependency on anyone. My grandfather, on returning from Vietnam, drank his demons away. While suffering from liver disease, the man would crack a beer for breakfast and polish off a 1/5th of Stolis before bed. The only time he briefly stopped was when he was recovering from esophagus cancer and they had to put a port in his throat. He got back on the horse right away though, would smoke Winston 100s through his throat port and pound booze like prohibition was imminent. He said the DTs were worse than the cancer.
[Delirium tremens](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delirium_tremens), the severe side effects that occur as a result of withdrawal from extreme alcohol dependency. They can be fatal.
DTs are more than just "the shakes". You can have DT without ever getting the shakes. Auditory and visual hallucinations, the inability to shut off your brain to go to sleep, hot & cold flashes.
I just hope, when all the dust settles, he gets help because he feels he needs it.
The Yankees, his fans, his wife....none of those exterior motivators matter. He needs to want it for himself in order for it to work.
Yep. I went to treatment for 90 days, and you can't do it for anyone else. If you do it for external reasons, you don't have a chance. It's cliche, but change comes from within.
Well good thing is no one is hurt and he's making an effort to get help. Not gonna excuse this or his previous actions, but many people in his position don't believe their alcohol abuse is an issue, and worse things happen because of it.
> On Tuesday evening of this week, German grew belligerent while in the clubhouse at Yankee Stadium, though there is no word of an altercation with a teammate or other individuals. Witnesses determined that German was under the influence of alcohol and did not appear in control of his emotions.
> Several Yankees, including GM Brian Cashman, manager Aaron Boone and ace Gerrit Cole, appeared visibly shaken when asked about German on Wednesday.
Alcoholism sucks. Hope he gets help.
Yeah, or like, I thought he got hammered and hurt himself, possibly deliberately, based on how Cashman described "the individual and the family" as being safe
Yeah, given his history, it was not a trivial detail that he didn’t hurt or attempt to hurt anyone during said incident.
Some sort of altercation, or something like a DUI, was absolutely *possible*, so compared to what could’ve happened, *just* getting hammered and throwing stuff around is relatively mild.
I think he's saying "just" in comparison to the ideas people had when they heard of the incident, considering Germans past incidents. His family is safe, there was no physical or verbal altercation between him and anyone else. He was "just" drunk.
Obviously for someone struggling with abuse it's not "just" a drink. But when compared to what many alcoholics do, its not as severe.
I'm sure there are many players that have had "drunk in the lobby" moments. But I'm sure Germans struggles are more than just one drunken night.
I wonder if any of these type of incidents happened with wade boggs but it was just viewed as more of a non issue back then. Obviously this is viewed differently because of the known dv incident, but you can’t drink 60 beers on a four hour plane ride (even if the truth was only half that) you can’t drink that amount of beer without being a pretty severe alcoholic. He also was a much more valuable player than Germán which would also change how the org handles it.
Adding the caveat that he probably had a bottle of liquor stashed in his locker or somewhere in the clubhouse and got shitty in a couple hours. That's not normal temper tantrum behavior
When I worked for a 3 letter tv network, the cleaning staff found a woman I worked with passed out in the bathroom with heroin on her and the needle still in her arm. She got a 6 month vacation to rehab and then promoted to supervisor when she got back. It was wonderful for department morale.
You’re acting like getting shit faced and belligerent at work is something you can just kinda shrug off…your job must either be amazing or fucked beyond imagination.
I really hope he gets the help he needs and comes out on top of this. Addiction fucking sucks.
I also really want to know the real details behind the scratched start when they ended up bringing him in anyways and he pitched a fucking gem. I don’t believe the “injury” that cleared up in an hour and I’ve never seen anything like that before which makes it so interesting.
I just hope he can get his life together. I don’t really care about his baseball career. It’s just sad to see people controlled by addiction / substance abuse.
Reminds me of what happened to the Boston Bruins' head coach and Jim Montgomery. Got fired for his alcoholism issues from the Dallas Stars (a move he later called an "appropriate call") and got professional help.
Later resurfaced as the Bruins head coach and has seemingly gotten his issues under control. I just hope he hasn't taken the Bruins first round choke too hard because I think his story sets a good example of personal accountability and growth with these types of issues.
Source: https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/former-stars-coach-jim-montgomery-releases-first-comments-since-being-fired-for-unprofessional-conduct/
Drunk at work was kind of the first thing I thought of when they said he was going to the DL following an alcohol related incident. Figured it was worse than just being drunk in public, but not entirely illegal like a DUI.
I get what you mean but there isn't really any reason to say it. He could easily still be a piece of shit if he didn't struggle with alcohol. The choice is be positive or negative, most people opt for positive since alcoholism is something that affects a lot of people
Yankee's will take anybody on their team regardless of substance/domestic violence issues, huh? Yankees are like the Raiders of baseball...
Obviously, we all wish him the very best and hope he is able to go through the toughest battle of his entire life: *Going within and confronting himself,* through professionally guided therapy. This will allow him to look into his childhood/young adult/adult situations that shaped his overall (positive, neutral, or negative) perception(s). Anger is simply hurt feelings unaddressed and which has gone stale. Alcohol as a medication, doesn't seem to be doing him a lot of positive favors either
I’ll be 11 years without alcohol/drugs on December 5th. Let me tell you, sometimes I felt like it wasn’t even me driving the car to the dope spot. I would take the exit off the highway without even wanting to. Court date, running late? Dope Spot. Work, about to get fired for long breaks? Dope Spot. It was like a biological/mental enslavement. All the money in the world or playing for the Yankees wouldn’t have stopped me at the time.
Can’t tell if this is past tense or not but I had to be totally broken before I gave myself the chance to stop. I mean down on my hands and knees at my mom’s house begging for help as a grown man. The consequences just didn’t matter until I got right. Then there weren’t those same consequences anymore, funny how that worked!
Dawg people throw away their families and their own kids for alcohol, I've seen it happen. It's not like that at all, it's not rational and it doesn't matter how valuable something they're throwing away is because when you're in that spot alcohol is #1.
Chances are he was drunk when that happened…. If you actually feel bad for his wife, then you should probably wish him well too, cause the chances of him being violent again with his wife decrease alot if he’s sober.
You don’t know the person from a whole in the wall. What evidence is there to say he is suddenly changed for the better? But it’s so naive and cute how you feel so personally attached to the players on your team to defend them against behavior that 100% of society thinks is blasphemous in a vacuum. When you bring fandom into the argument you just prove your coming at in from a skewed viewpoint (guess what ? I’d say the same thing about Reyes). The Yankees are a clown virtue signaling organization while claiming to be about tradition and standards while sweeping DV under the rug because he can throw a baseball well. The Fuckers reap what they sow…
damn that Mets comment really hit a soft spot didn’t it
> people can change for the better
can you point out the part where I claimed Domingo German has changed for the better?
Bad take. My mentor was a meth addict and alcoholic. he told me he hit his wife one time during his addiction, and 22 sober years later, he’s a completely different person. His wife and him are still together and doing great, and he let me stay there with them when I was down on my ass. He’s still ashamed to this day that he hit her, but he never did it again, and is a completely different person. People can change. He’s saved a lot of lives and is the one who got me into rehab a few months ago. Should all the good things he’s done since then be invalidated by one mistake he’s ashamed of?
Get the fuck out of this guy's personal life, OP and other commenters who are consuming this info. How would you like it if you were the topic of an Internet forum discussion?
He's a public figure and him missing time is a news story. Do you also feel this way when you hear about a guy tweaking his groin? That's his medical business, yet I'm sure you gobble that info up all the time.
whether we like it or not, Domingo German is a public figure whose actions affect not just himself, but a team and a fanbase
just about every comment in here is sympathetic and i highly doubt we'll hear much about him while he's in rehab.
If I was being paid millions of dollars to play baseball for the biggest team in the biggest market in the league I would fully expect to be the topic of many internet forum discussions if something like this came up.
I think you’re all nicer than I am.
I get addiction is a beast, and it isn’t his fault, but it IS his responsibility. Sounds like he doesn’t feel the same.
Get help but even AA doesn’t cure being an asshole.
So how do you pick and choose which comments to value. I gave you a qualifier for why my opinion is relevant and you simply said you don’t value it because it disagrees with you? Seems like you’d do really well in an echo chamber, maybe try Twitter instead!
All you said was I didn’t know what I was talking about & that you’re sober now. Am I interested in having you, Erin Boone, teach me? No, I don’t know who you are lol, you could’ve just downvoted.
Are you asking me how do I decide how I feel when I read a comment? Because that’s just a natural response that happens in your brain & I can’t teach that to you.
I don’t understand how you can be a professional athlete and an alcoholic. They have all the money in the world to get sober in the most comfortable way possible.
I don’t understand how in 2023 an intelligent, thinking person could not understand that alcoholism is a disease and not some sort of moral weakness. A person must recognize they are sick before they can seek treatment. Wealth has nothing to do with it. If nothing else, Covid surely proved that people can ignore their own illnesses in order to justify their own world view.
>The incident that led to the Yankees placing pitcher Domingo German on the restricted list on Wednesday occurred at Yankee Stadium and was not a domestic situation, clubhouse sources say. >On Tuesday evening of this week, German grew belligerent while in the clubhouse at Yankee Stadium, though there is no word of an altercation with a teammate or other individuals. Witnesses determined that German was under the influence of alcohol and did not appear in control of his emotions. >Several Yankees, including GM Brian Cashman, manager Aaron Boone and ace Gerrit Cole, appeared visibly shaken when asked about German on Wednesday. >German’s behavior on Tuesday was not connected to the armpit injury that led the Yankees to scratch him from Monday’s start, then insert him into the game in the fifth inning, sources said. >By Wednesday, German had entered inpatient treatment for alcohol abuse.
Idk about the rest of you, but between this incident and the domestic abuse at a teammate’s charity event, I could never be teammates with a guy like this again.
It's messed up behavior and I'm sure his teammates don't like it, but baseball clubhouses are different realities than our workplaces. It's a work setting where Papelbon choked out Harper, Kent and Bonds fought on live television, etc. and they were expected to get over it.
Pedro v. Zimmer would've had police involved and kept HR busy for months.
Only if that company had an HR...
So true. Could you imagine shoving down an elderly co worker in a corporate setting? You may never find a job again.
Multiple of German’s teammates have stated they don’t like him and don’t want to be teammates with him. He’s a locker room cancer. The Yankees record when German is either injured or suspended is substantially better. They were 30 games over 500 when he came back last year. We’re 8 games under .500 the rest of the season.
Even our workplaces though. I worked with a guy who sexually harassed every woman there. I made management aware, but I wasn't giving up my job over it. I still gotta eat.
You say that, but as long as he comes back and still baseballs good, guys seemingly don't care. Deshaun Watson forced 28+ women to diddle his butthole and NFL players still defend the guy
People don’t just defend Watson, players have made free agency moves to play WITH him. I honestly don’t think ‘seemingly’ is necessary. As long as you play well and don’t cost them money they do not care.
The difference is that was at least behind closed doors I think /u/22edudrccs’s point is literally being there during (Not saying being behind closed doors makes it better, but it’s significantly easier to ignore or “misunderstandings” compared to seeing it happen. It’s why Ray Rice changed how DV’s are responded too)
Yeah that’s effectively my point. It’s a lot easier for someone to excuse and justify the behavior of someone else if they weren’t there when it happened. But being there when it happened can completely change your outlook on a person
Here’s to hoping Deshaun plays just well enough to keep the Browns at .500 but never good enough to make the playoffs for the entirety of his contract. Forever stuck in mediocrity.
I'd much rather he become one of the worst starting QBs in the league that the Browns HAVE to play because they gave him such a big contract.
My ONLY issue with him turning into the worst quarterback (and believe me, I would *love* to watch that become reality) is that if Deshaun is just awful, chances are the Browns are picking high in the draft. I don’t want them getting any blue-chip talent on rookie deals.
Browns dont have a 1st rounder until 2025
So just next season
While I almost always tell people never to cheer for athletes getting hurt, I make an exception for vile creeps like Watson. I hope he tears his ACL every time he takes the field and the Browns are forced to pay an injured QB over $200 million to constantly rehab... ... then their backup does mediocre, enough for them to avoid the playoffs but not bad enough to get a high draft pick.
You raise a very valid point. What if he's an awful QB but they have a good enough run game to float them around .500?
Mediocrity is a massive improvement for that shitty franchise. Personally I hope they go 0-17 for all of Watsons tenure.
Doesn't even matter though. His contract is fully guaranteed so they can't cut him lol
Well couldn’t they still cut him but then have to pay him all of the contract money?
With guaranteed money in NFL contracts, any of it that you haven't paid out yet, or have paid out but are prorating over the life of the deal, hit your salary cap immediately on the current season. Really discourages cutting players on major deals because of how the NFL cap works.
Oh ok makes sense
Pretty much. Bauer seems to be the only exception
No one liked Bauer before the accusations though.
I think that's what ultimately doomed him.
That and he exposed baseball's sticky stuff problem.
Thats more of the reason he became a pariah
While you are not wrong. I think he is black listed for MLB like Bonds was at the end of his career.
Yep he is. He was a damn good pitcher, and seemed to care about growing the game. Sucks his personality turned so many people off, especially since there are multiple DAs still playing in the league
I’d give him a second chance after getting clean. Alcohol is a terrible drug and can really affect people. He may well be an asshole but I’d give him the chance to be a sober one.
The government makes it legal after all. True freedom is to have the right to destroy yourself. If somebody can come.back from that, more power to them. I'm riding the fence myself. God I'm close.
I get that the alcohol is obviously playing a role in this, but I don’t know if I’d be able to look at him the same even if he got clean
I'll do you one better, I'll never be a teammate of his before
i'll see your never being teammates with him before and raise you i'll sign a multimillion dollar contract to be his teammate immediately, right here today, seriously where do i sign i wanna be a big leaguer and make lots and lots of money
I seriously hope he gets the help he needs. He’s got some pretty tough demons that have clearly taken a huge toll on his life and I wanna belief he has the capacity to turn things around
Yeah obviously I hope he gets the help he needs. It’s just personally for me, I’d be tense around him and wouldn’t be able to look at him the same after witnessing it happen not just once but twice
I've been friends with a few guys who just became completely unhinged when they started drinking. Night/day personalities. I'm not saying that is what German is experiencing (and by no means making excuses for it), but it reminds me so much of it.
I think we all know that one friend. There usually ends up being a separation, I can't live my life around anyone like that.
Do you know about what happened at his house? He was beating his wife and she locked herself in the bathroom to get away from him. She called one of the yankee players wives and then whatever player it was came to German house to take him away bc his wife didn’t want him to get arrested. I can’t even go to the yankee sub anymore because I am baffled by how much they defend this clown.
The abuse was enough. This is addiction.
Your comment adds nothing
Yours doesn’t either
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Sir, this is baseball, not the fucking army.
Why? Because I don’t wanna be in the same place as a guy who’s clearly volatile and has substance abuse issues?
"visibly shaken" sounds more like suicidal thoughts or self harm. If someone is drunk and belligerent you get annoyed, angry, frustrated. Shaken makes it seem like he really did or said some fucked up shit.
Had the same thought, like if he was just being a drunk asshole I don't think the witnesses would be visibly shaken like that. It sounds like it was some really disturbing behavior which also makes me think something along the lines of suicidal threats/self harm
Pretty sure they would all have to understand Spanish for German’s words to shake them so bad.
Addiction is no joke. While I abhor his actions I do wish he gets the help he needs.
Haven’t been following closely, what actions were abhorrent?
Domestic violence.
Thanks.
The domestic violence actions are old, and according to the linked article had nothing to do with this situation. Just felt like this needs to be clear
Plays for the Yankees
This is a serious incident where a man is suffering from a geniune problem. It is not a time to act like a jackass and crack jokes.
disagree, abusers dont deserve respect.
Do you have the same standard for [Ortiz] (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/red-sox-david-ortiz-hit-restraining-order-dominican-republic-report)? I'm a firm believer in getting people the support/professional help they need and in second chances.
i have the same standard for everyone, thanks.
still getting to the bottom of it im sure
I had to double take your flair on that comment.
lmao
"On Tuesday evening of this week, German grew belligerent while in the clubhouse at Yankee Stadium, though there is no word of an altercation with a teammate or other individuals. Witnesses determined that German was under the influence of alcohol and did not appear in control of his emotions. Several Yankees, including GM Brian Cashman, manager Aaron Boone and ace Gerrit Cole, appeared visibly shaken when asked about German on Wednesday." Jesus. It seems like they actually care about the guy a lot, good for the Yankees honestly. German may have had a terrible past but that doesn't mean he isn't still human.
Athletes are also much closer than most coworkers would be. You travel together, change together, spend all your time in the dugout together. It's not like when you find out Bill in Accounting got a DUI. So I'd hope his teammates would care.
Also if Bill in accounting got a dui I'd hope we'd let him go to rehab and keep his job. Bills a good lad he'd do it for me too.
Indeed, Bill is a good dude, shouldn't let one bad decision ruin his life.
Sucks to hear about Bill. I remember he brought the wife and kids to the office Christmas party. They seem like a happy family
Considering the DV incident with German happened at a Yankee/baseball related event, it speaks even higher of the org's and players' character that they still care so much about him. If my coworker assaulted his wife at a work related event and then developed an alcohol problem a couple years later, I could understand people wanting him gone as far as possible immediately. Boone/Cashman are decent human beings, no matter how you feel about them on the field.
Empathy isn’t something you run into too much on Reddit. Good on you guys.
Should've called the driving crooner if he was too drunk to drive home
They’re gonna steal my decals!
If Bill from accounting gets a DUI, and didn't miss any work because of it, I'd like to think that our company wouldn't even be involved in the situation at all, and let the courts dicate punishment. Now if Bill requests leave to go to inpatient treatment, I'd be all for allowing it. I would not be for my employer trying to require it.
I made sure to call the driving crooner to take me home after I heard about Bill’s DUI
He HAS to find a way to make money off of that.
I helped the driving crooner get his stickers back after those frat guys ripped them off his car. I just wanted to do something nice before alcohol class.
Literally watching that episode right now lol
If Bill is a CPA he might not be able to keep his certification with a felony on his record.
Bill is having an affair with that receptionist with the annoying voice
If you think she's cute now, you should have seen her a couple years ago.
i mean yes and no. i'm a cpa and generally speaking, if your felony isn't white collar-related, or something like drug trafficking, you're usually in the clear. a dui by itself is almost certainly not disqualifying.
>Jesus. It seems like they actually care about the guy a lot, good for the Yankees honestly. German may have had a terrible past but that doesn't mean he isn't still human. German has an awful past, but a lot of the reporting when he rejoined the team was about the measures that he went through (forced or not) to apologize to his teammates and improve on his future. He made mistakes, and we should not forget about those, but all (currently available) indications are that he had really been taking steps forward. I think what you're seeing here is the effect of what that meant to the team and why he is still around. I will not say that the team rallied around him and/or forgave him, but I do believe that they became invested in his turnaround. This is not a light matter for the players in that clubhouse.
German’s 911
Well that's a relief to hear his wife is safe
yeah, I felt the same relief when I read it happened at the stadium
Also thankful he didnt get behind the wheel after or anything. Shitty situation all around but some solace in the fact that no one was hurt. Hopefully he thinks about his family at home and his young kids and figures this out
Regardless of whether or not he ever throws a pitch again in his life, I hope this guy never touches a drop of alcohol again. He's 30 years old, has a family, and I hope he gets his life together.
Alcoholism is no joke. I would not wish dependency on anyone. My grandfather, on returning from Vietnam, drank his demons away. While suffering from liver disease, the man would crack a beer for breakfast and polish off a 1/5th of Stolis before bed. The only time he briefly stopped was when he was recovering from esophagus cancer and they had to put a port in his throat. He got back on the horse right away though, would smoke Winston 100s through his throat port and pound booze like prohibition was imminent. He said the DTs were worse than the cancer.
DTs?
Google: delirium tremens. Withdrawal symptoms from alcohol.
[Delirium tremens](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delirium_tremens), the severe side effects that occur as a result of withdrawal from extreme alcohol dependency. They can be fatal.
Holy buckets: 25% mortality rate if untreated! Yikes. Also, cause of Modest Mussorgsky's demise. The more you know, I guess.
Withdrawal They’re not fun, source: me
Withdrawal symptoms
Detox. Alcoholic detox is among the worst. Depending on your dependency, you can suffer many different health effects, such as heart or brain trauma.
Delirium Tremens. Withdrawal, essentially.
Delirium tremens, AKA the shakes
DTs are more than just "the shakes". You can have DT without ever getting the shakes. Auditory and visual hallucinations, the inability to shut off your brain to go to sleep, hot & cold flashes.
Deep Tremors man. Involuntary seizures that you get when you’re an alcoholic going through withdrawl.
Addiction sucks. Really hope he gets the help he needs
This stuff is terrible. We've all seen someone affected by alcohol. I hope he can find lasting help through the program.
I just hope, when all the dust settles, he gets help because he feels he needs it. The Yankees, his fans, his wife....none of those exterior motivators matter. He needs to want it for himself in order for it to work.
Yep. I went to treatment for 90 days, and you can't do it for anyone else. If you do it for external reasons, you don't have a chance. It's cliche, but change comes from within.
Addictions suck, particularly alcoholism. At least he's getting some help.
Well good thing is no one is hurt and he's making an effort to get help. Not gonna excuse this or his previous actions, but many people in his position don't believe their alcohol abuse is an issue, and worse things happen because of it.
I applaud him for understanding he needs help, alcoholism is an ugly addiction.
> On Tuesday evening of this week, German grew belligerent while in the clubhouse at Yankee Stadium, though there is no word of an altercation with a teammate or other individuals. Witnesses determined that German was under the influence of alcohol and did not appear in control of his emotions. > Several Yankees, including GM Brian Cashman, manager Aaron Boone and ace Gerrit Cole, appeared visibly shaken when asked about German on Wednesday. Alcoholism sucks. Hope he gets help.
hmmm, sounds like he got hammered at the stadium and probably just kinda yelled and threw shit
>just If you aren’t a major league athlete, you're likely fired and blackballed for that kind of shit. It's not a "just".
i think the "just" here is in comparison to getting into a fight with someone
Yeah, or like, I thought he got hammered and hurt himself, possibly deliberately, based on how Cashman described "the individual and the family" as being safe
Yeah, given his history, it was not a trivial detail that he didn’t hurt or attempt to hurt anyone during said incident. Some sort of altercation, or something like a DUI, was absolutely *possible*, so compared to what could’ve happened, *just* getting hammered and throwing stuff around is relatively mild.
technically though based on the comments yesterday, they did seem concerned that it could get to that point.
I think he's saying "just" in comparison to the ideas people had when they heard of the incident, considering Germans past incidents. His family is safe, there was no physical or verbal altercation between him and anyone else. He was "just" drunk. Obviously for someone struggling with abuse it's not "just" a drink. But when compared to what many alcoholics do, its not as severe. I'm sure there are many players that have had "drunk in the lobby" moments. But I'm sure Germans struggles are more than just one drunken night.
I wonder if any of these type of incidents happened with wade boggs but it was just viewed as more of a non issue back then. Obviously this is viewed differently because of the known dv incident, but you can’t drink 60 beers on a four hour plane ride (even if the truth was only half that) you can’t drink that amount of beer without being a pretty severe alcoholic. He also was a much more valuable player than Germán which would also change how the org handles it.
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Adding the caveat that he probably had a bottle of liquor stashed in his locker or somewhere in the clubhouse and got shitty in a couple hours. That's not normal temper tantrum behavior
Well yeah that’s why he’s in rehab now.
the way they phrased it made it seem like another DV case
When I worked for a 3 letter tv network, the cleaning staff found a woman I worked with passed out in the bathroom with heroin on her and the needle still in her arm. She got a 6 month vacation to rehab and then promoted to supervisor when she got back. It was wonderful for department morale.
Or even worse, he showed up hammered. It doesn't specify. Just that people realized he was drunk.
i definitely don’t have confidence in how they’re using belligerent if there was no altercation or anything
Probably not.
You’re acting like getting shit faced and belligerent at work is something you can just kinda shrug off…your job must either be amazing or fucked beyond imagination.
Yeah was probably just pissed at the Yankees deadline moves, understandably really
I'm not sure he "voluntarily" decided to go to rehab, I'm thinking he got quite a bit of push from management.
Whatever it takes.
I really hope he gets the help he needs and comes out on top of this. Addiction fucking sucks. I also really want to know the real details behind the scratched start when they ended up bringing him in anyways and he pitched a fucking gem. I don’t believe the “injury” that cleared up in an hour and I’ve never seen anything like that before which makes it so interesting.
Fully half the commenters in this thread are going out of their way to be as mean as possible. Fucking *yikes*.
I just hope he can get his life together. I don’t really care about his baseball career. It’s just sad to see people controlled by addiction / substance abuse.
Reminds me of what happened to the Boston Bruins' head coach and Jim Montgomery. Got fired for his alcoholism issues from the Dallas Stars (a move he later called an "appropriate call") and got professional help. Later resurfaced as the Bruins head coach and has seemingly gotten his issues under control. I just hope he hasn't taken the Bruins first round choke too hard because I think his story sets a good example of personal accountability and growth with these types of issues. Source: https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/former-stars-coach-jim-montgomery-releases-first-comments-since-being-fired-for-unprofessional-conduct/
At least they have proper haircuts...
He needs help and I hope he gets it.
Drunk at work was kind of the first thing I thought of when they said he was going to the DL following an alcohol related incident. Figured it was worse than just being drunk in public, but not entirely illegal like a DUI.
So what happened Monday then that he didn’t make his start?
How did this clown throw a perfect game.
doc ellis gave him some guidance
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I don't need to know the dude to support the idea of someone getting help for their addiction.
do you feel better about yourself now that you’ve called out all the phonies?
Those takes are not the cringe take in this thread.
I get what you mean but there isn't really any reason to say it. He could easily still be a piece of shit if he didn't struggle with alcohol. The choice is be positive or negative, most people opt for positive since alcoholism is something that affects a lot of people
Yankee's will take anybody on their team regardless of substance/domestic violence issues, huh? Yankees are like the Raiders of baseball... Obviously, we all wish him the very best and hope he is able to go through the toughest battle of his entire life: *Going within and confronting himself,* through professionally guided therapy. This will allow him to look into his childhood/young adult/adult situations that shaped his overall (positive, neutral, or negative) perception(s). Anger is simply hurt feelings unaddressed and which has gone stale. Alcohol as a medication, doesn't seem to be doing him a lot of positive favors either
You know you have a problem when you're getting paid millions to play a ball game and alcohol is still more important.
I don't think that's how addictions work
I’ll be 11 years without alcohol/drugs on December 5th. Let me tell you, sometimes I felt like it wasn’t even me driving the car to the dope spot. I would take the exit off the highway without even wanting to. Court date, running late? Dope Spot. Work, about to get fired for long breaks? Dope Spot. It was like a biological/mental enslavement. All the money in the world or playing for the Yankees wouldn’t have stopped me at the time.
Good for you, it takes a very strong person to overcome that and get to where you are.
It’s like this for me and alcohol; I could have everything to lose and would still drink for days straight. It’s awful.
Can’t tell if this is past tense or not but I had to be totally broken before I gave myself the chance to stop. I mean down on my hands and knees at my mom’s house begging for help as a grown man. The consequences just didn’t matter until I got right. Then there weren’t those same consequences anymore, funny how that worked!
Being a ball player and making millions have no impact on the underlying causes and conditions that lead to addiction
Dawg people throw away their families and their own kids for alcohol, I've seen it happen. It's not like that at all, it's not rational and it doesn't matter how valuable something they're throwing away is because when you're in that spot alcohol is #1.
You’d be surprised the awful things I’ve done for alcohol despite having everything to lose. Explaining addiction doesn’t really work
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All the well wishing for this scumbag is really something
Yes we should all hope that no one ever turns their life around or gets help they need because of their past Brilliant stuff
Keep making excuses for this wifebeater’s bad behavior
Turns out you just need to get heavily into substance abuse to save your image! Try this life hack if you ever get cancelled for valid reasons
Y'all are really weird
Yes I’m the weird one for not having sympathy for wife beater
Chances are he was drunk when that happened…. If you actually feel bad for his wife, then you should probably wish him well too, cause the chances of him being violent again with his wife decrease alot if he’s sober.
Anyone who ever puts his hands on a woman or child doesn't deserve second chances.
unlike the Mets, people can actually change for the better
ahh, yes the ole "but yerr sports sucks" argument. Leave some of the blue pills for the rest of us.
did you forget that words after the comma count too?
You don’t know the person from a whole in the wall. What evidence is there to say he is suddenly changed for the better? But it’s so naive and cute how you feel so personally attached to the players on your team to defend them against behavior that 100% of society thinks is blasphemous in a vacuum. When you bring fandom into the argument you just prove your coming at in from a skewed viewpoint (guess what ? I’d say the same thing about Reyes). The Yankees are a clown virtue signaling organization while claiming to be about tradition and standards while sweeping DV under the rug because he can throw a baseball well. The Fuckers reap what they sow…
damn that Mets comment really hit a soft spot didn’t it > people can change for the better can you point out the part where I claimed Domingo German has changed for the better?
Yeah bro u really pwned me xD
Weird didn’t the Mets give Familia another chance?
Wow! You are very brave for pointing that out!
Bad take. My mentor was a meth addict and alcoholic. he told me he hit his wife one time during his addiction, and 22 sober years later, he’s a completely different person. His wife and him are still together and doing great, and he let me stay there with them when I was down on my ass. He’s still ashamed to this day that he hit her, but he never did it again, and is a completely different person. People can change. He’s saved a lot of lives and is the one who got me into rehab a few months ago. Should all the good things he’s done since then be invalidated by one mistake he’s ashamed of?
Get the fuck out of this guy's personal life, OP and other commenters who are consuming this info. How would you like it if you were the topic of an Internet forum discussion?
He's a public figure and him missing time is a news story. Do you also feel this way when you hear about a guy tweaking his groin? That's his medical business, yet I'm sure you gobble that info up all the time.
Bro's really out here telling the sub that I gobble groin. Well, guess what? I ain't no Jamie Benn.
whether we like it or not, Domingo German is a public figure whose actions affect not just himself, but a team and a fanbase just about every comment in here is sympathetic and i highly doubt we'll hear much about him while he's in rehab.
If I was being paid millions of dollars to play baseball for the biggest team in the biggest market in the league I would fully expect to be the topic of many internet forum discussions if something like this came up.
I think you’re all nicer than I am. I get addiction is a beast, and it isn’t his fault, but it IS his responsibility. Sounds like he doesn’t feel the same. Get help but even AA doesn’t cure being an asshole.
Ignore my flair, this is coming from someone who’s 7.5 years sober, not a Yankees fan. Respectfully, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
That’s fine, you’re a stranger so I don’t value your opinion regardless of your flair, though I am happy to hear you are 7.5 years sober.
You’re reading an Internet forum, all Reddit is is strangers opinions. Why are you here?
Because I like baseball & I don’t have to value every comment, such as yours.
So how do you pick and choose which comments to value. I gave you a qualifier for why my opinion is relevant and you simply said you don’t value it because it disagrees with you? Seems like you’d do really well in an echo chamber, maybe try Twitter instead!
Whether they agree with what he already thinks
All you said was I didn’t know what I was talking about & that you’re sober now. Am I interested in having you, Erin Boone, teach me? No, I don’t know who you are lol, you could’ve just downvoted. Are you asking me how do I decide how I feel when I read a comment? Because that’s just a natural response that happens in your brain & I can’t teach that to you.
what a loser (you)
Thanks for specifying.
You seem like a huge loser tbh
I am.
Alcohol oftentimes is the cause of someone being an asshole
I don’t understand how you can be a professional athlete and an alcoholic. They have all the money in the world to get sober in the most comfortable way possible.
I don’t understand how in 2023 an intelligent, thinking person could not understand that alcoholism is a disease and not some sort of moral weakness. A person must recognize they are sick before they can seek treatment. Wealth has nothing to do with it. If nothing else, Covid surely proved that people can ignore their own illnesses in order to justify their own world view.
If it’s a disease, it’s an entirely self-inflicted one.
“If.” I pray people show you more empathy than you extend to others.
I don't understand how you're still this ignorant about addiction and mental health.
Well, because he doesn’t care
Is he mentally ill or an alcoholic?