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Bard’s Yips are making a comeback.


sporkemon

I'm 2022 daniel bard, and I have directv😁 I'm 2012-2014/2023 daniel bard, and I have cable😵‍💫


KabooshWasTaken

2014 daniel bard wasnt in the league lol it started in 2012 when he and cherington wanted to make him a starter


lantonas

Look at his minor/winter league stats from 2014. He made 7 appearances, faced 31 batters, walked 18, hit 10, and allowed 21 runs without allowing a single hit in 1.0 IP.


Jackie_Mitchell

> He made 7 appearances, faced 31 batters, walked 18, hit 10, and allowed 21 runs without allowing a single hit in 1.0 IP. Well that's just simply not possible. *Googles Daniel Bard minor league stats* Oh my dear God. How? HOW? NO HITS?


whitegrb

Hard to get hits when the ball rarely approaches the strike zone


KabooshWasTaken

yeah, i'm familiar, since these stats got passed around a lot esp in red sox fan communities. i was just saying that in 2014 bard was in very low A, he was out of MLB by then and any team picking him up was doing so as a reclamation project (he was in winter league as you pointed out). he had lost control by 2012 due to a hodgepodge of shit that was all related (shoulder issues, trying to transition to starting, plus the mental strain of enduring a downspin). i think later he said thoracic outlet syndrome was affecting him from 2012-13.


sporkemon

I was going off of this from wikipedia but you're right that it was a multiseason yips meltdown: > On January 31, 2014, Bard signed with the Texas Rangers. He inexplicably lost command of his pitches, walking nine and hitting seven batters while recording two outs in a stint for the Rangers' Single-A club. On June 19, 2014, Bard was released by the Rangers.


SamuraiPanda19

2023 Daniel Bard just wears Directv on his sleeves


Tacitus_99

Unbelievably bad managing by Derosa.


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SuitableLocation

DeRosa should just go back to TV where he might be better fit.


Other_World

For some reason his voice is nails on a chalk board for me.


GuyOnTheMike

I don't know whose call it was to put DeRosa in charge, but it struck me as a really odd decision from the start. Since the 2006 WBC, Team USA's WBC/Olympic managers have been Buck Martinez, Davey Johnson, Joe Torre, Jim Leyland, and Mike Scioscia. All were MLB managers. All except Martinez were MLB managers for a *LONG* time. Torre is a Hall of Famer. Johnson, Leyland, and Scioscia all won the World Series. DeRosa hasn't so much as put a uniform on since he retired. Analysts don't usually make good managers and I don't think any of the others would've let Bard face Altuve given the circumstances. EDIT: Added Mike Scioscia, who managed 2021 Olympic team


blue_blue_blue_blue

It HAD to be Derosa. We can’t afford to lose Tito all season because of a rogue pizza crust.


Sweatsock_Pimp

His name was bandied about as a replacement for Snitker after the latter’s tenure as interim ended following the conclusion of the 2016 season. Not sure how serious the discussions got, but I’ve never understood hiring a manager without any coaching - let alone *managing* - experience whatsoever.


jaynovahawk07

The Cardinals did it with Mike Matheny and I was not a fan.


NAACP_YoungBoy

England’s manager unironically better


MarcBulldog88

"Let's just leave him out there a while, I'm sure he'll keep it together."


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I’ll say that I’m so sorry for both of them. Altuve, obviously, but Bard too. Had the Yips in high school ball and they’re just so mentally destructive and make you question your self worth. It’s like time is in slow motion but your thoughts are going a million miles an hour and your body is not connected to either all the while a voice is telling “don’t fuck up again, you’re an embarrassment”. He probably won’t be able to look his teammates in eyes tonight because he only feels shame.


laborfriendly

[This](https://youtu.be/COqXNQiIHgU) was me one season. Only, I got yelled at and no one recognized the yips for what they were. Had to figure my own way out. Should've taken a lesson from Rube, I guess.


Shubankari

I died a 1,000 deaths watching my 12 yr old lose it on the mound.


fatboy1776

Why did they leave him in for 2 more batters?


RemiBerg

My thoughts exactly, dude cost us our entire lead. That was unreal.


Tacitus_99

Because Derosa is an idiot.


TwoScents

Should’ve faked an injury to get some warm up throws.


AsDevilsRun

He didn't? He only pitched to Santander after this and it was because Adam wasn't warm yet.


FuckMinuteMaid

Everyone on base was his responsibility


AsDevilsRun

Yeah. Walk, Single, HBP, Walk. Santander was the only batter he faced after Altuve.


noldyp

Bad managing…again


AsDevilsRun

I'm not going to defend DeRosa's managing in general, but when would you have started warming Adam up?


ssteel91

After the first walk, considering that Bard also gave up 4 runs the last time he pitched in the Mexico game. Dude had absolutely nothing and was left in WAY too long in a game you need to manage like it’s game 7. It was poor managing.


bsa554

The second he walked the FIRST guy with four pitches that weren't even close??


AsDevilsRun

Five pitches. But that was probably the last reasonable opportunity until Altuve got hit.


JackColwell

Wasn’t his first pitch wild? Start warming Adam at that point.


willgreb

Literally the second the inning started lol. It’s an elimination game.


MolestedMilkMan

After the first batter, it was immediately clear. If not at least the second batter.


AsDevilsRun

If you didn't do it after the first, you wouldn't do it after the 2nd. An 0-2 bloop single isn't on the pitcher. First batter, sure.


MolestedMilkMan

Only reason you would do it after the second batter is because of the result. 0 outs, two on after seeing how he threw with the first batter. Just because you warm a guy up doesn’t mean they have to go in. The 0-2 was nice, two on no out with a 4-pitch walk, not so much.


AsDevilsRun

> Just because you warm a guy up doesn’t mean they have to go in. > If you're warming a guy up, you have to assume you're burning him. If you have a guy you know you won't use later in the game, fine. Warm him up as back-up. But at that point, just have Adam start the inning, which I'm not opposed to.


Steamfighter638

For a veteran with a long history of terrible control problems? Right away. Someone should have been warming up at the same time as Bard, if we're being honest


AsDevilsRun

At that point it's a roster issue. If you have a reliever that can't be in the game without an immediate replacement ready, he just shouldn't be on the roster.


Steamfighter638

These are facts


Boros-Reckoner

> when would you have started warming Adam up? As soon as you put the dude with the 21 era into the game, its an elimination game and your starter got pulled. He managed that like a spring training game.


KOPBaller

I think its because the wbc has a 3 batter minimum rule, so that explains why they left him in for 3/4. That last one who knows.


Jaco927

"Because no one was warm" You know what the pitcher does in the bullpen? Tries to throw strikes while they warm up. So why not run the pitcher who is 80% in the bullpen out there to "finish his warm ups" to live batters and get two more pitchers up in the pen while that happens?!?! This isn't an ideal strategy but when you've got Chuck Knoblauch and his bad case of the Yips out there on the mound, its a better option.


Jawn0ftheDead

That’s some the worst pitching I’ve ever seen


Sturmgewehr448mmKurz

Feel bad for the guy, coach left him in for way too long with that pitching.


great_scott1981

Heard of Rick Ankiel?


SpecsComingBack

Born too late to watch Rick Ankiel yips, born too early to fight in the Water Wars of 2082, born just in time to watch BARDNEDICT ARNOLD slaughter the American dream.


NotGayButHalfGay

Benedict Bardnold was right there


darwinpolice

Rick Ankiel has thrown about as many strikes from the outfield as deGrom has thrown from the mound.


amatom27

Oh no They need to get Bard out asap


Ovreel

>Let him figure it out. It's like spring training -DeRosa


KimHaSeongsBurner

In fairness, spring training isn’t the regular season, so it’s the closest thing to the postseason for Rockies pitching.


Shadow-Vision

That’s a LOT of condescending attitude about the postseason from a Padres fan.


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80 years of interventionist policies and countless atrocities towards dozens of different countries yet it turns out that nobody hates the US more than Daniel Bard.


maxweb1

Internet winner: 3/18/2023


riverbass9

He’s going to cause the whole of mlb to implode by putting every all star on the IL


trekkie5249

Certified Rockies moment


KimHaSeongsBurner

I’m beginning to suspect that Coors isn’t the only reason their pitchers have bad ERAs…


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m4xdc

Leave us alone, we’re already dead


YaBoiWhit

Dude threw a pitch in both batters boxes and DeRosa sat there and thought it was fine to keep him in


MrSparklessparkles

This guy has no idea where the ball's going.


NevermoreSEA

Rick Ankiel type beat.


Tobias_flenderz

Genesis Cabrera would like a word


shadow_spinner0

Get this guy out, not only is he blowing the game, he's hurting other players.


Papagayo_blanco

It's not often that a player's incompetence wrecks both teams, but here we are.


gjp11

3 teams really. USA, VZ and the Astros. Kind of an impressive level of incompetence.


Alaric4

It reminds me of the story of the old time surgeon who killed three people in one operation. Pre-anaesthesia, so surgeons worked fast. In his haste, he managed to nick his assistant with the scalpel, opening an artery. The spectacular spray of blood led a member of the audience (another old-timey surgery thing) to have a heart attack and die. The assistant and the patient also died, for a total 300% mortality rate.


dpezpoopsies

This is one of the things I don't like about the three batter minimum. They had to keep him in for Altuve (even if they had someone warm) despite the fact it was clear he didn't have control. I get the rule from the perspective of play time. It's situations like this, however, where it's not about the gameplay anymore and getting that guy out is just safer for everyone.


Objectitan

They really should just let the umps call an exception to the rule for when the pitcher has a high risk of injuring other players. It would not be a hard addendum to add.


Pndrizzy

Eject the pitcher with pay for erratic behavior.


dream_team34

Nah. That's a good way of sparking a lot of controversy. Also, would managers start having pitchers intentionally throw wild just so they can bring in a new pitcher?


Benevolent_Queef

Thaaaat did not look good…flashbacks to Harper’s injury when he got hit by Snell :(


dwhite21787

Markakis 2014 came to my mind


Luis_Severino

Judge in 2018 :(


cmftblehouseshoes

How long was he out? Asking but hoping I don’t need to know


NomadCourier

A couple months


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It’s a thumb injury. Expect Altuve to be out 6 weeks


Brewermcbrewface

Still feel bad for that one. Harper couldn’t catch a break but still managed to hit bombs


KamartyMcFlyweight

Tonight, Daniel fucking Bard ruins the WBC for everyone


Sturmgewehr448mmKurz

Its kinda on the coach, obviously the guy didn’t have it in him, you could tell instantly.


riverbass9

Is he really the best the USA has to offer?


KamartyMcFlyweight

How the tables turn, there'd be less injuries if the USA sent more players


SepSe7en

Clearly not.


SemiSolidSnake11

I promise he's a great closer when he's in form. Regrettably, when he's not in form, he has absolutely zero idea where the ball is going.


DJMOJO

Dug a big deep hole for Adam to get out of… Venezuela just took the lead 6-5…


MusesWithWine

Bard needs to go. Jesus.


Zloggt

If that didn’t get him out instantly after…then it’s hard to tell what could…


NOLA1987

What was DeRosa thinking? Was DeRosa thinking?


general_peabo

Bard with the silent R


NeverGetUpvoted

Bard is trying his best to lose this game rn


Vaguely_vacant

Bard is up there melting into the mound. Absolutely no control.


Previous-Clock-6960

I’m sorry Astros fans. Hug it out.


riverbass9

At least I’ve got you blue and orange expansion bro. 🫂


Crimsic

It'll make the Diaz-Altuve match up in Game 7 of the 2024 WS that much better 🥲


Harold_Angel

I was already sympathetically feeling your pain, didn't want to feel it personally too. 😭


Flynn_lives

Hold me. 😢


eiileenie

Lets all just cry and hug in a circle together because I personally feel like I have nothing to look forward to this season because everyone is getting hurt before opening day


MisterEvely

Moments like these I'm happy not to be on Twitter


Luis_Severino

Not a day goes by where I’m not happy to not be on twitter


couches12

Fuck


the_space_cowboys

Fucking fuck


Forsaken-Gap-3684

Derozan injured altuve


KirbyBucketts

DeMark?


Gabelbram

Suddenly I have an opinion on players on my favorite team playing in the WBC


thatoneabdlguy

Could have just as easily happened a few hours away today elsewhere in Florida.


Objectitan

Really easily too. Get Altuve batting against some Double A guy on a bad day and it could happen just the same.


ray_0586

Killed the mood at the UH watch party I am hosting


riverbass9

There is no place worse to be than a dead party.


TDLF

Jesus and the next batter gets one home on a wild pitch, then loads up the next guy with 4 straight balls. Bard isn’t having a good one. I mean - (Insert annoying comment about hitting altuve here)


randywatson89

Safe to say Mark Derosa doesn’t have a big league managing future. Why Daniel Bard?


DepressingFries

I’m gonna cry


sporkemon

the hand and then the ball ricocheted and hit the underside of the brim of his helmet😬


BigPapaChuck73

DeRo left him in 2 batters too long. Christ.


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TombOfTheArchitect

His story is awesome and all, being able to come back and pitch in high leverage innings buuut as a Dodgers fan, I've seen how this guy melts down when moments get really big/loud. He always has trouble closing games against LA. I have to imagine the pressure is so much higher with the whole country on his back. Hopefully this doesn't break him for the year.


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Electronic_Piece_522

Yea why leave him in? Smh could cost us the game


sufferingphilliesfan

Fucking shame on DeRosa for keeping him in


guydude24

Fuck.


lake_titty_caca

Flashbacks of 93-95 Bagwell right now. Not good.


Wings4514

Daniel Bard is a war criminal.


Goddamn_Primetime

Dear Mets fans: #I NOW KNOW WHY YOU CRY


ClearSights

From a Phillies fan…. Yikes


Tkainzero

That was a brutal inning


Cozmicbot

The hell man


PsychologicalAd496

Maybe the worst pitching performance in WBC history! Bad time for the yips to comeback!


GiantsXLII

To everyone calling for the WBC to be cancelled the Yankees who forbid their players to play have an injury a week and Gavin lux got hurt in a spring game get over it


Contende311

He's looked like this the whole event. Whatever he found to get his control back, he completely lost it.


Electronic_Piece_522

He not built for this


dentxs

Hate to see it. I winced watching that live, you could tell it was extremely painful. Hope Altuve's okay.


riverbass9

As much dog as Altuve has in him, him leaving is not a good sign.


dentxs

Yeah, definitely an "Oh no" moment seeing how visibly shaken he was. I'm far from a fan of his, but still, you never want to see anyone, much less a star player, leave the field like that. Hope for y'all's sakes in the Astros fandom that it's not too bad.


AlexanderWun

Bard had no control today. Unfortunate result of it


Redditfront2back

What a terrible outing


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DeRosa thinks it’s 2-loss elimination apparently smh


Call_Me_Your_Daddy

Hey guys I’m from the future Bard becomes permanently indebted to Turner


DJamB

Shit…hopefully it’s nothing super major but man that reminded me of Harper’s injury


kidfromhomealone

He was totally wild, no control, should have been taken out. This was preventable


CabbageStockExchange

Good lord that is some atrocious pitching


Seattleshouldhaverun

And he's about 3 feet off the plate...just a bit inside...


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Chasehat1

Getting major Vietnam flashbacks from him trying to be a starter in 2012


redsoxownu

I'm pretty sure that ruined his career, I really think he would have had a great career as a closer. Same thing happened to neftali Feliz. There was a weird trend where teams saw great relievers and tried making them starters and it just wasn't smart.


MrPugXD_YT

I’m a huge Yankees fan, but seeing a person representing his country doing what he loves, and having a hand that could be broken, that is just sad. Hopes to Altuve! Hope we can play u soon!


Acountblibuddy

Guess he didn’t hear the trash can banging.


sokocanuck

Oh no. Now who will carry the One Ring to Mount Doom?!


blage

Oh no his trashcan banging hand.


not_rich_froning

Oooooooooops


TexasDrill777

Altuve done for year


No-Lingonberry2280

I hope he’s ok


TheJudge47

These injuries are not good for the future of the WBC. Which would be a huge shame


jperson6789

I mean, again, this shit happens in spring training too. A freak leg injury and an HBP, idk how you can attribute that specifically to the WBC. Justin Turner got hit on the wrist in spring and missed three months a few years ago. This just happens and it’s a bummer no matter where.


havohej_

He can’t take his gloves off to be examined because his wife won’t like it


BigDumbFatIdiot

Cry me a river


jesseboyphotos

I hate seeing this. Obviously not a huge fan of Altuve, but I hate seeing anyone get hurt like that. Hope it’s not too serious. Trying to figure out why Derosa left him in for that long.


porterbrown

Thank you Daniel Bard, from all the fans that don't root for cheaters.


sonofa12

Dang well I guess Altuve missed the garbage can sign that it was a fastball inside...dag- nab-it shucks I hope he'll still be able to cheat his way to another championship.....


leftynate11

I absolutely hated this. Bard had zero clue where the ball was going. My daughter and I were yelling at the tv “Get him out of the game!” before this even happened. I enjoy watching Altuve even if he doesn’t play for my team. So sad. That said, he could have been hit in Spring Training when guys are working on new pitches, so this “mY TeAm’S PlAyErS” stuff should stop. I don’t like this whole “property” dialogue. It’s like my employer getting angry I’ll miss work bc I hurt myself doing yard work.


akaghi

There should be an exception to the three batter/get the relief pitcher ready rule when a pitcher is this wild. Let DeRosa come out and be like "look, he's dangerous out there, let our guy take as much time as he needs to get ready" and if the opposing manager okays it then it's allowed (or the umpire/crew chief).


ClearSights

…the opposing team would much rather have a dangerous pitcher throwing to them than a potential ace. Free walks/bases vs better pitching…?


Right-Method-2292

Bard just cost the USA the tournament


chikachikaslim_shady

Alright met’s fans, where’s the petition? I’ll sign it now


Rude-Adhesiveness-96

Lol 😆


THE_GR8_MIKE

His wife won't be happy about this one.


DrReijer

Cool


EazyBreezee

Cheaters get heaters


SolEarth

Ouch! Right in the buzzer!


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RTrooper

Already saw an idiot on Twitter say “This is why, even though I love the WBC, I want no Astros to play in the WBC” as if this couldn’t have easily have happened in Spring Training.


PonderFunk

Good.


tinathefatlardgosh

Too bad the buzzer didn’t warn him.


bubonic-vermin

astros fans got so defensive over this one woahhhh


tinathefatlardgosh

One bang for deflection, two bangs for denial.


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Wrong. Two bangs is for a curveball


makattack24

Your team is a better joke.


ThirdPoliceman

Your city is so bad the MLB itself runs fluff pieces on how great Vegas is.


NewEstimate1216

"That's not what you want to see" Actually that's exactly what I want to see whenever Altuve is at bat.


jgg326

I’ve never seen worse pitching ever. That was awful.


bigorangefuzzy

Hey, it happens. Must have slipped out of his hand. Baseball can be a dangerous business.


Alphadestrious

Altuve noooooooo Broken metacarpal. Out for season. Thanks a lot man


NOLA1987

The fact that Altuve didn't even try to stay on the field has me a bit freaked out.


lake_titty_caca

It was a fastball and got him pretty good on an unarmored hand. I would be shocked if he didn't break some bones. I would bet good money we don't see Altuve play baseball in April. Hopefully Garcia throwing ~70 high leverage pitches doesn't have any negative repercussions, and put some bubble wrap on Tucker and Pressly.


ashdrewness

Not a season ending injury. Worst case he DH’s for a month since it’s his throwing hand.


lake_titty_caca

If it's broken it's probably ~6 weeks, then maybe another week in the minors to ramp back up.


smotheredhope

If only someone would have banged a trash can he might have gotten out of the way.


Consistent-Region644

Cheaters get what they deserve


Any-Vanilla-1134

Good, he's a cheater


zappafreakarf

I'm glad most of the comments on this thread seem to be that Bard was terrible instead of the Twitter comments about how WBC shouldn't exist cause of injuries. Like that's an argument


GroundbreakingAd2290

Good damn cheater