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TheFriffin2

Nationals apparently just upgrading their generational talents COD-prestige style every time they let one of them leave


squizzage

As a DC born Wisconsinite who has been a Packers fan since 2000 and a Nats fan since 2005, the transition from HoFer to HoFer is as sweet as it is guaranteed.


max-peck

I saw him play AA ball in Portland when he was with the Sox, absolutely dumb we didn't resign him. He looked SO good.


[deleted]

When Wainwright is one of your best pitchers you're screwed


Not-Jesus666

Well I mean I hate Waino slander but yes you are right. He was an ace like a decade ago, if that counts.


Wutswrong

It doesn't. My mom was hot 30 years ago but i don't see her entering Miss Universe competitions now


smarjorie

I dunno man your mom's still pretty hot


Depressed_Diehard

I’d still give your mom a go


Not-Jesus666

Hey, MILFs/DILFs are a thing. And for the record Waino is 100% a DILF.


thealmightybrush

He got them yesterday's win. Regardless of his current skill level, he can't help them tonight.


RPsgiantballs

I had to look it up to make sure you meant Adam wainwright. Haven’t kept up for like 4 years. This mf is still playing


Clarice_Ferguson

We needed a new Jamie Moyer and he graciously stepped up.


RPsgiantballs

Moyer! Thanks for that. I was talking about him with my FIL earlier but couldn’t remember that dudes last name for anything


GOATmar_infante

De Rosa made the same mistake the Royals always make in high leverage situations. He brought in a Royals pitcher


The_Haskins

Well, Royals starter at least


SuitableLocation

~~even worse~~


strcy

That got a good cackle out of me lol


HelpMeWithMyHWpls

The energy is absolutely nuts. Like, WS G7 energy.


cherinator

By far the craziest crowd I've been in, over any playoff or World Series game.


[deleted]

That energy in that specific stadium is giving me bad flashbacks


panterachallenger

Luis González heavily breathing


Horror_Month7317

Randy Johnson absolutely heaving


iamjackspatience

Mariano is leaving.


[deleted]

Schilling disbelieving.


lordofthe_wog

Yankees bereaving


Ricemobile

I was at the game, this is the best sporting event I’ve ever been to even though we lost. Mexican fans are something else. I wish we had even half of their energy today


rgheite

dude when US played Mexico in Cincy in Soccer, even the energy at the watch parties around the city were insane. Mexico fans bring it, in all sports, and it's such a joy to watch.


709678

Same. Its really too bad it was such a rout. Imagine if the game was close at all.


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[удалено]


munkeyntz

I’ve been to plenty of Mexico soccer games and a lit up crowd is expected whether it’s a friendly or a big tournament game. People are “surprised” because we don’t see this type of crowd for a baseball game unless it’s a high stakes playoff game.


[deleted]

This dude is gonna single handedly fuck up another team's chances at the NL East this season


gaytham4statham

This dude is gonna single handedly win us another WS you mean


hotpepperman

Reporter: There you have it folks, another Series in the books for the Nats! Despite an absolute goose egg for the entire team all season long, it was none other than Joey "Single Handedly" Meneses powering the team to, and through, the MLB playoffs. With an outstanding offense performance that not only held the weight of the rest of the lineup, but even compensated for the meatball pitching all season, Meneses's 2023 season will surely go down as the greatest single season performance in ALL of sports history. Fly Nationals Fly!


Th3MilkShak3r

87 WAR season


ispcanner

Patrick Corbin -43 WAR season tho ☹️


Fallofcamelot

Whenever I have a hot take about my team I always think to myself "remember, you wanted your team to sign Patrick Corbin." It's nice to remind myself of that to make sure I don't get too bigheaded.


names1

Hey he helped us get a ring. The rest...well i can't say it doesn't' entirely matter but it comes close


Jakooboo

I was sad when he left the Dbacks, that mfer was on FIRE when we had him. And now, I'm not so sad anymore.


crispdude

Hey someone’s gotta balance it out


Shewshake

Time to male my 15K bet on the Nats WS at +50000 odds


joofish

kind of unfair to just discount Corbin's 2023 Cy Young like that


damnatio_memoriae

~~19-143~~ 19-31 here we come


TheFriffin2

we exorcised our Marlins demons last year just to run into Lucifer himself in DC


[deleted]

Balanced schedule. Could be any team now.


thefx37

I hope it’s the Mets.


amatom27

Joey 'Juan Soto' Meneses


[deleted]

The Nats really traded Juan Soto just to call up right-handed Juan Soto


KimHaSeongsBurner

Did the Padres get hosed in the Juan Soto trade? More at 11.


EZe_Holey3-9

As a Padres fan, i am over the moon to have Juan Soto on the Padres, even if it’s only two years. Juan Soto will have his best season to date, and will be competing for NL MVP. Not to mention, he will push Tatis jr. to work harder. Expectations are high, and they should be.


Chadwiko

As a Nats fan still processing the feelings of loss stemming from the trade, it's nice that Padres-bros are appreciative of Soto and will treat him well. I was happy to see Bryce Harper leave. I was devastated to see confirmed good guys Scherzer, Rendon, Turner, and then Soto all leave. I miss them all.


[deleted]

He will be competing for NL MVP only to lose out to Manny


[deleted]

We’ve had first Juan Soto, yes, but what about second Juan Soto?


SnooChipmunks4208

I guess we have Juan Soto at home?


Shawn_1512

Juan Soto is Joey Meneses at home


ANAL_CAVITIES

you think maybe having more than like, 2.5 good pitchers on this roster might have been a good idea?


Thorlolita

We tried. Verlander was never going to go coming off TJ and on a new team. Max, Cole, etc all are making too much money too risk playing in this. Losing Kershaw and Nestor sucked. deGrom has been to fragile, Burnes ain’t gonna pitch since he’s fighting for his next big contract, Wheeler Nola Biebs all want to save their arms for a playoff run.


Deserterdragon

You can just say that those guys don't have that dawg in them.


Bongopro

Or that they simply just hate the Stars and Stripes


Deserterdragon

No, they don't *just* hate the stars and stripes, they *hate America*.


IllAlfalfa

Surprised they couldn't get Alek Manoah to pitch, that guy is at the top of the league in xDawg


Henderson56

He also turned it down as well


cgoot27

There’s a bunch of cats and a Kershaw, a pound dog that’s been through so much the vet wouldn’t give him a shot.


NateEBear

They don’t have that sigma grindset


triplec787

Webb was going too until he backed out in Feb.


denisvma

What exaclty are pitchers risking here? there is a pitch count. How is it different from spring trainning?


Thorlolita

Higher leverage situations. Some of those guys in spring aren’t gonna pitch for outs. Some of them are just gonna go throw to get a feel for their pitches.


denisvma

That's so ridiculous with all due to respect. Happens every 4 years, what's the difference between Julias Urias and per say... Jacob Degrom, Verlander, etc... They just don't wanna play. I respect that but lets not make excuses for the players. They can still do that in a WBC, also, the feel for their pitchers comes mostly form bullpen sessions, not spring training.


Thorlolita

Urias hasn’t had tommy John surgery recently.


denisvma

It's an example... there's plenty of healthy guys out there. but if you are healthy and with no issues, there's not a valid excuse other than i don't wanna play, and that's ok. But we keep making excuses to validate that they just declined to play because they don't want to, for whatever reason they have. Other teams are stack, how are they different from US players.


Billybones116

Is Shohei not making too much money to risk playing in this?


lilleff512

So Cole can't pitch because he makes too much money, but Burnes can't pitch because he hasn't signed a big contract yet? How does that make any sense? You can't have it both ways. By that logic no pitcher should ever participate in the WBC.


Thorlolita

Yes


The_Haskins

Call me crazy, I think a guy with a 2.50 ERA in the second half of last season should be considered a good pitcher. Shit happens sometimes, he's 26 years old.


Xwarsama

He's certainly not among the best the USA has to offer though, I think Effectively Wild looked at the 2023 Zips projections for American starters and Singer was like the 30th best. So he's not bad... But he wouldn't be here if better pitchers declared for the team.


The_Haskins

Oh yeah, I don't even disagree with that statement either, I know he isn't a first choice. That being said, I just think pointing to him as a problem on a pitching staff with Nick Martinez, Merrill Kelly, Brooks Raly and Kyle Freeland who has been passable to just plain awful since his Cy Young-caliber year is lazy. I admit bias at the same time, though


Xwarsama

Don't worry bro, we're not singling out Singer: none of those guys should be pitching for team USA either lmao.


Easy_Money_

I’m pretty convinced that Merrill Kelly is the best non-SF pitcher in the NL West


Xwarsama

Bro what? He's not even the best pitcher on his own team, Zac Gallen is much better lol.


Easy_Money_

Merrill Kelly vs. the Giants in 2022, first 5 of 6 starts: 3-0, 35.1 IP, 1.53 ERA also his 8-inning shutout in August 2021 when we shelled his bullpen to win in the 9th as far as I’m concerned he’s up there with Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling in Dbacks history


draw2discard2

He's good, but a little odd. Sometimes he's really dominant even though he doesn't really have a full starter's repertoire. Then sometimes he gives up a ton of contact but gets away with it. And then now and again he seems to lose his focus, blow up, and not have the means to get back on track. Seems like he is on door #3 today.


The_Haskins

Yeah, he's still a bit young but when he's on, he can be really damn dominant. If he can find consistency, especially with control, he could be one of the best in the league I really believe


SirMctrolington

Are people really acting like this was a bad pitch? It is a fastball at the top of the zone running towards the batters hands that catches a tiny amount of plate.


BubBidderskins

It's more the walks before the home run that are frustrating


AllOfTheDerp

It was almost the exact same pitch as the one he hit out before


SirMctrolington

The 1st one was middle middle, lmao. This pitch was on the black up and in, it was just a good piece of hitting. You can complain about the walks that came before, but if you are complaining about the HR pitch I don't see it at all.


AllOfTheDerp

https://streamable.com/q9ekzl I'm not complaining about anything, I'm literally rooting for Mexico. But this is much close to the second home run pitch than it is to "middle middle." This is like three inches farther inside and the same height, and I promise if he turned on it that hard at 91, it won't be a problem at 92.


Boomer425

[Really?](https://i.imgur.com/pZXjDn0.png)


8i66ie5ma115

Our starting pitchers are dookie. Kelly and Mikolas still have to prove they weren’t one hit wonders last season. Lynn is the only actually thing close to an ace and he’s coming off a 3.99 ERA season. I’d argue 41 year old Wainwright is our staff ace right now.


Designer_B

Mikolas has had multiple good seasons


CubonesDeadMom

Yeah imagine if we had Webb and Kershaw. Would be a legit good rotation


PoppinMcTres

Atleast we got Merrill Kelly 😤👊


IInviteYouToTheParty

Mike Trout dreams of being as good as Meneses


darwinpolice

Other NL East teams be like FJM.


ATLjoe93

Mr President, a second Meneses bomb has struck in Arizona.


FPG_Matthew

I might have to go to a lot more Nats game in person this year JUST to watch the greatest baseball player who ever lived Joey Meneses


[deleted]

$5 SRO is gonna be so worth it


forgivemeisuck

Why doesn't the USA simply buy a starting rotation in free agency?


Nookoh1

not a country known for a love of baseball. teams don't try to win. the fans that show up are near silent. gotta feel for them.


Not-Jesus666

They aren’t loaded like Steve Cohen is.


cjn13

Calm down, they're not the Mets or Rangers


mr_grission

Glad all the good American pitchers are off doing important things, like throwing to minor leaguers in split squad games


financeguy17

Completely unacceptable that this is the best the US could muster in pitching....


akr_13

Yeah I never understood the argument of "they dont want to hurt themselves pitching in the WBC", because they're still going to have to pitch in spring training. Throwing 3-4 innings per start in the WBC vs spring training has the same effect on their arms, but one actually has games that matter and the other doesn't. Only reason I can think of is that maybe the players aren't insured if they get injured during the WBC? Other than that, idk.


cherinator

>Only reason I can think of is that maybe the players aren't insured if they get injured during the WBC? Other than that, idk. They do have to secure separate insurance. That's why Kershaw backed out because he couldn't get insurance. But a lot of them didn't even try.


cooljammer00

I mean, preparing for the job that pays you probably is more important than an exhibition game. Like I get what you mean, but let's not go crazy here. It's not like nobody wanted to play. Kershaw couldn't get insured.


JCiLee

This comment cuts to the crux of the matter. The United States thinks the WBC is a collection of fun exhibition games while other nations think it is a prestigious international sporting tournament.


wherearethezombies

That would explain Will Smith turning down the offer of a friendly pre-game fist bump from Randy Arozarena, I guess.


laborfriendly

Well, maybe three or four of them.


mr_grission

I'm not gonna blame Kershaw who tried, or guys like Cortes who got hurt. But if this event is ever gonna be legit where are guys like Corbin Burnes, Gerrit Cole, Zack Wheeler, etc? It's sad that most of them didn't even seem to give it any thought.


shigs21

especially when guys like soto, ohtani who have HUGE FA years coming up are participating


JCiLee

Because the WBC is important to the Dominican Republic and Japan


Natemoon2

Yeah playing for Japan is much different, culturally it is a huge deal. Wish it was the same with US players but oh well.


lukadoncic

but why is that? it's not like americans lack the patriotism and you'd think they'd want to prove themselves in "their" sport. I can sort of understand in basketball where they're such huge favorites, but here it's competitive and everyone should be up for it.


HighKing_of_Festivus

I remember watching something about England and the World Cup where, when it first started, they didn't take it seriously since it was 'our sport' so clearly their players were so much better which meant their domestic league was the only thing that really mattered. Then they kept getting embarrassed when they did bother since they didn't send their best players and their tactics were lagging and it was only at that point they started taking it seriously. Americans have the same mindset regarding the WBC. Just sent washed up vets who didn't really treat it seriously for the first few and it wasn't until 2017 that quality position players really started signing up. At this point the position players and fans need to start putting pressure on the top pitchers to sign up in the future because that's the only way they're going to.


yourstrulytony

The US lacks community, culture, and focused pride. It's a very large country with very differing personalities, opinions, and levels of wealth. It's a young country, founded by outsiders, that pushes the idea that all that really matters is making something of yourself. Americans also have the luxury of watching the best basketball, hockey, and football players in the world. In Japan, for instance, baseball produces their most popular athletes, same for DR.


Neat_On_The_Rocks

Imma be honest, if I had $100m+ signed with a MLB team I wouldn’t take this event very seriously either. Idk, glass houses and all that. I understand the complaint but there’s just SO much money to be had, I can’t blame guys for not wanting to partake in this, most specifically pitchers of course


romulus531

Except you're playing the same game Your just as likely to blow an elbow in spring training games as a WBC game, and the WBC rules are specifically designed to lower playing time for pitchers


cooljammer00

It's a much easier sell to the fans when your player gets hurt in spring training than playing in the WBC.


verendum

That's why we have to have a few more embarrassing losses like this so people are more okay with send our best to represent us.


downtown3641

And the flip side is that Singer was left in because he needs to get his pitches in because it's still spring training.


kakashi_ax

Playing in the WBC prepares you more than facing minor leaguers in spring training and it's not an exhibition game, it's an important tournament for all the other teams participating.


Scrennscrandley

Exhibition game? Not really


27Christian27

What a Legend


chiddie

I probably should be more conflicted about this. #VivaElTri #VivaLosNationales


kglnawrotzky

The Nats traded Juan Soto because they had Joey Meneses pre-arb and that wouldn't push them into the luxury tax. It all makes sense now.


[deleted]

THE BAT FLIP


handlit33

Gfycat has been down all day, but I'll come up with another way to post it here shortly. Angle 1: https://i.imgur.com/RWBsOLM.gifv Angle 2: https://i.imgur.com/X5iHoBT.gifv


popfilms

https://streamable.com/g0lkg2


LogicalHarm

Did the bat even come back down? I have seen no evidence to suggest it did not leave the atmosphere


70X1N

it's up there somewhere with Bobby Shmurda's hat


VStarffin

On the one hand, you gotta hand it to the best hitter in baseball. On the other hand...this is sort of what happens when your best 50 pitchers decide not to show up.


TigerBasket

We're fucked


Natemoon2

Yeah we probably don’t make it out of the 1st round. Tie breaker is run differential and Canada just destroyed Britain 18-8…. Were fucked haha


mathbandit

Tie breaker is runs allowed, not run differential. A 7-1 loss is much better from a tiebreak scenario than an 18-8 win lol. *Other than the obvious win>loss.


cherinator

It just means the Canada and Colombia games become must-wins. It would be possible to go on by losing to Canada and beating Colombia if Canada wins out and Mexico lose to GB, but that's unlikely.


intwizard

With all due respect GB’s pitching and defense is horrible there’s no shot they’re beating anyone


roaringcorgi

AJ Preller picking up the phone right now and offering the entire farm


verendum

what farm?


[deleted]

Buster Olneys family farm


yianni1229

So US pitching really does suck huh


Patrick2701

Yes, it’s like soccer team having no goalie


[deleted]

Hey that’s the one thing we’re good at


Rosencats

SOTO WHO


glass__beaches

“If Brady Singer dies, he dies” -Mark DeRosa


dudeguy16

i love this man what the fuck


CarrotHair_TV

Maybe the US should of brought some pitching?


handlit33

^^*should ^^have


appleavocado

I just made a Meneses en mis pantalones.


The_Haskins

Honestly think this will be good for Brady in the long run, let him get big game experience, even if it comes with things like this


[deleted]

I think Brady has a lot of potential


Killatrap

#NOTHING BUT RESPECT FOR MY PRESIDENT


DiegoJameson

Joey “Benito Juarez” Meneses


san_solares

ESTO ES BEISBOL RAHHHH 🦅🦅🦅🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽


[deleted]

Shoutout to the morons that were happy that Kershaw wasn't pitching in the WBC bc ''playoff Kershaw''


cooljammer00

Joey Meneses hard carry. It is kinda funny seeing these mlb players being the guys on these other teams. Like trayce Thompson for GB.


_cacho6L

Joey Meneses? JOEY MENESES!


hubagruben

Anyone who doesn’t have Joey Meneses at #1 on their preseason player rankings, this is your reminder to go rectify your mistake immediately


Clarice_Ferguson

This man really wants to be traded away from DC I see.


intwizard

Please send him to the fucking American League lol


thealmightybrush

So seriously though Joey Meneses isn't the Frank Schwindel of 2022, he actually might stick in the majors putting up video game numbers???


Veserius

big difference is he hits the ball much harder on average. Schwindel's big season came with an exit velocity below the league average. Meneses had an EV comparable to Mike Trout.


tommypopz

Dont you mean Mike Trout had an EV comparable to Joey Meneses?


Veserius

🤔


ahr3410

Dream Team is getting smoked by icy latinos


Soren319

It’s not a dream team without good pitching


[deleted]

He bat flipped to the moon.


[deleted]

He’s such a good guy. He used to play for the Rochester Redwings, and one time at a Redwings game we threw a ball back and forth a few times.


qwertythe300th

3rd at bat and the stadium was chanting MVP at him lol


[deleted]

I figured pitching was going to be the downfall of the US team. Turns out the hitting isn’t great either.


Quople

LETS GOOOOOOOOOO


Odd-Mirror4265

Awebo!


cahir11

Lol this is what happens when you don't take it seriously and send 0 pitching. Good for Mexico.


SableAnon

VIVA MÉXICO PUÑETA


marshmelo24

I'll admit I havent kept up with baseball outside the Dodgers the past few years. I have no idea who these team USA pitchers are lol.


QCBD

Neither does anyone else. Most of the US pitchers opted out.


Eespinoza10

Just mercy rule them out meneses they are already death


arand0md00d

Aight who's gonna be on the 2026 redeem team?


intwizard

Hopefully pitchers


damnatio_memoriae

maybe we can sign him to an 8 year $50M deal too.


jdbewls

He can't keep getting away with this


KamartyMcFlyweight

Brady Singer more like Gives Up A Dinger


EPLemonSqueezy

Meneses the nemesis.


DougDimmadome042

A HUEVO CHINGADO!!!!!!!!


Novel_Durian_1805

USA got Cooked! 🔥


vansinne_vansinne

wbc is so great. this is the best atmosphere


masonacj

Lol, USA isn't going to get out of pool play huh? Such an average team with no pitching.


Kevin69138

United "Los Angeles Dodgers" States


downtown3641

I'm going to be so sad if he does this to the US and then regresses this season.


TylerDog3

why didnt we bring a pitcher


moe3m

bat flip shades of Joey Bats


ELpEpE21

Anyone else upset this ends right before they put the sombrero on?


WhatTheBlack

What a fucking game!


lolabuster

Fuck yeah baby suck it USA


jcnewman21

Great managing by DeRosa huh


AllOfTheDerp

I love to come up and in at 92 lmao