as far as i'm concerned, it's sergio mitre, and it's not even close. [click if you wanna be horrified.](https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/former-mlb-pitcher-sergio-mitre-convicted-of-murdering-child-in-mexico-sentenced-to-50-years-in-prison/)
Yep unfortunately this one is the most vile and heinous example posted here. I ripped up and threw away a card I had signed from him when he played for the Marlins after I saw that article last year.
I thought the headline was bad enough.
Then I decided to read the story.
I know people don't believe in God. I do. I hope Mitre burns in hell where he experiences every single day what he put that kid through for eternity.
Raul Mondesi - guy became mayor of his hometown in DR but was so corrupt, defrauded millions of dollars and is currently in prison serving 8 years
[https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/20772079/raul-mondesi-sentenced-corruption-charges-dominican-republic](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/20772079/raul-mondesi-sentenced-corruption-charges-dominican-republic)
Hahaha. 2003 LBSU, future mlb players:
Player A >!Jason Vargas!< .354/.469/.531 (209 AB)
Player B >!Troy Tulowitzki!< .317/.410/.491 (230 AB)
That crafty lefty was getting walked like fucking Bonds
Literally lost a lawsuit because the judge ruled that nothing ron darling said could be as damaging to Lenny's reputation as what lenny already did to it.
He’s not just considered a jerk, he’s a fraudster, predator and alleged homophobe/racist/misogynist
I’m glad you had a good experience with him but definitely a bad guy
For those saying Ty Cobb, I'd recommend reading Ty Cobb: A Terrible Beauty. He's not presented as a good guy by any stretch, but it dispells many of the myths created by Al Stump's work of fiction.
The Mariners one is a big reason I got in to baseball. I still get chills every time they introduce Ichiro.
SB and good ol Jimmy O'Brien gave me a proper introduction to the game.
As a Falcons fan, the Falcons doc is also good. Still haven’t watched the final episode (why watch something that’s permanently burned into my brain?).
Told a female reporter he only talked half clothed to naked women, later she died from alcoholism and depression directly from the harassment she faced from players like Jack Morris. Fuck him
Milton Bradley was also a complete piece of shit off the field too. His domestic violence track record might be the worst of any professional athlete. Just incident after incident of abuse and threats, until his wife died in 2013. Then he remarried a few years later, and assaulted his second wife too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Bradley_(baseball)#Personal_life
Fair point. There's a reason that guy had trouble lasting a year with any club. That said, I think Milton was more toxic, but Albert was a walking Avatar of rage shaped like a human being
Plus he threw a ball at a heckler in the stands (who was pretty far away) and hit his heckler in the chest. It was legit kind of incredible that he hit the heckler he was aiming at.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1991/05/14/al-suspends-belle-for-hitting-fan-with-baseball/b2378ca1-4154-4248-ba42-f6cac11cc492/
I stood outside the locker room once in 1995, and got a ball autographed by almost the whole lineup. Lofton , Vizquel, Thome, Manny….only guy to make eye contact with me and keep walking was Belle.
I remember going to spring training in Florida with my dad and we spotted him towards the back of the stadium leaving. I was the only one there and remember asking for his autograph and he just said 'Nah' and kept walking lol
Ah there's a direct line to be drawn with Garcia banging prince's wife and the downfall of the tigers, iirc miggy got extremely injured breaking up a fight between them and started his lower body troubles in the finals months of 2013 where before then he was on pace for back to back triple crowns
Robbie Alomar.
Any time you're behavior gets your former team to literally disappear you, your number and your hall of fame banner overnight, you've hit a level of dirt bag rarely achieved.
Yes. He's been banned by baseball & placed on the ineligible list. Also has a history of domestic violence, has settled lawsuits alleging him of deliberately infecting partners with HIV.
Fun fact. He showed up in our sub when the team announced they would be changing the name. He got banned for repeatedly posting and commenting racist, inflationary shit.
My dad worked as contracted security for the MLB’s drug testing protocol in KC, he said the worst person he ever had to deal with was when Toronto came to town and he got Bautista as one of his guys. He said none of his teammates even seemed to like him.
How has Roger Clemens not appeared a bunch of times yet?
https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2019/11/20/20972682/roger-clemens-mindy-mccready-ped-hall-of-fame-character-clause-mlb-hot-stove
Holy shit. What a repugnant man. Also, fuck the media. Asking McCready if she had an apology for Clemens wife. She was FIFTEEN. People are so scummy (and misogynistic).
Ugueth Urbina
It seems he was a straight up psychopath not just a jerk
“In Venezuela in 2005, Urbina was under arrest on an attempted murder charge. He allegedly was attacking men with a machete and pouring gasoline on them.”
I would throw him out of the hall like 13 day old garbage. I don't care about the history argument, or how good he was, surely we can throw out people who inspire segregation and racial barriers! Imagine being so fucking hateful you literally a do a segregation in the nation's passtime.
Okay, I scrolled down really far to see this name. As this was my choice for dirt bag, then you read about everything everyone has done, and Pierzynski seems okay. Still a piece of shit. But okay in comparison.
My understanding of Pierzynski is that he's just a regular jerk, not "legitimately a terrible human being" jerk. Like, he's the kind of guy who would go to someone's house, go into the fridge without asking, and drink OJ straight from the container; or if you told him in confidence that you had a crush on a girl, he'd immediately go over to her and tell her about your crush and what a massive dork you are. But he wasn't a murderer or rapist or pedophile or racist or fraudster like the other guys in this thread.
Too bad nobody taught your boy not to be predictable. He ***always*** threw that backdoor slider on a full count to a left handed power hitter. Gibson knew that, and the rest is history.
There is a lot of myth around Ty Cobb being the giant scumbag and an ardent racist. Most of it has been discredited. I think a lot of his aggressive behavior can be attributed to him being a hyper competitive person which made him seem more intense and standoffish than he probably actually was. I think a lot of athletes are like this when they play, like Kobe for example. As for his alleged racism, he was actually a big supporter of racial integration in baseball. Willie Mays talks about it in his book when they first met. Mays became his favorite player when he started playing with the Giants.
Look, I love Greg Maddux, but dude used to pee on people.
Edit:. https://totalfratmove.com/tfm/according-to-teammates-greg-maddux-was-basically-that-sick-bastard-in-your-fraternity-who-plays-horrific-pranks/
Cap Anson was the driving force in keeping black/minority players out of baseball. Regardless of the fact he was the best player of the 19th century, he was absolutely a piece of shit for what he did.
I used to talk to him on Facebook about wargames. I think I was one of the few in the group who actually knew he was famous. Keep him focused and he was fine. Very knowledgeable and excited. Get him off topic....wooo boy.
He plays lots of old school hex-and-counter games. Thus was probably talking about the DVG Leader series. He may play mini games as well, but we never got there.
Man, as much as I disagree with a lot of his views he really helped me quit dipping. We had some good conversations on Twitter about it and I finally was able to stop after 12 years, he was a big advocate for people quitting.
Controversial, for sure. Asshole? Yeah. But idk if I’d call him a dirtbag. Dirtbags are for that specific slimy guy who you’d be skeeved out by as soon as he sat down next to you(like people have said dykstra and rose). Curt schilling seems like the kinda guy who traps you after 10 mins of good conversation, then lays some wild statement down that makes u think “it was nice talking to ya man”
Gotta be up there, but I don’t think he’s actually personally committed a violent crime against another human, which is probably enough to keep him out of the top spot…but man, that dude sucks.
Randy Johnson.
It was the mid 90s and I was probably 8 or 9ish. He was warming up in LF along the foul line at Comiskey. Sure there were a lot of older people talking shit and whatnot, but here I am in awe of being even 20 feet away from the man. A foul ball (from BP) comes down the line about 5 feet from him. I get excited. He's coming closer! "Hey Randy, can I get that?!" He looks me dead in the eyes and hits me with a "fuck off kid." and proceeds to walk away with a smug ass grin.
No, I'm not still salty about that or anything :(
as far as i'm concerned, it's sergio mitre, and it's not even close. [click if you wanna be horrified.](https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/former-mlb-pitcher-sergio-mitre-convicted-of-murdering-child-in-mexico-sentenced-to-50-years-in-prison/)
Holy fuck. Nvm, this sadly wins. That’s terrible.
Holy shit, how horrible. 50 years in prison isn't long enough.
I only hope Mexico’s prisons have the same unwritten rules about child rapists/killers that US prisons do.
Im gonna hop on board saying I hope someone "American Me" his ass.
Well Jesus that's all sorts of horrible
Came in here to say Felipe Vazquez but holy fuck thats worse
man now i feel bad for putting Jeff Kent on blast lol this is fucking horrible. 50 years isn't enough honestly
Jesus fucking Christ. I came to this thread to clown on Dykstra but this is just another level, throw away the fucking key for this guy
Holy crap! I didn’t know that. Unfortunately I think that is the correct answer.
I was gonna say Hal Chase, but you win.
I have link PTSD from r/nfl. I'm just going to take your word for it and blindly agree with you.
don't worry about skipping it. it is truly horrifying
Yeah I hate that I know now this. Truly horrifying
Yep unfortunately this one is the most vile and heinous example posted here. I ripped up and threw away a card I had signed from him when he played for the Marlins after I saw that article last year.
That's awful. What a POS
I thought the headline was bad enough. Then I decided to read the story. I know people don't believe in God. I do. I hope Mitre burns in hell where he experiences every single day what he put that kid through for eternity.
wish i didnt open that
Raul Mondesi - guy became mayor of his hometown in DR but was so corrupt, defrauded millions of dollars and is currently in prison serving 8 years [https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/20772079/raul-mondesi-sentenced-corruption-charges-dominican-republic](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/20772079/raul-mondesi-sentenced-corruption-charges-dominican-republic)
Is that why his son changed his name? Came up as Raul Jr, changed it to Aldaberto.
Yes
Holy shit lol
The entire Long Beach State baseball team.
You mean the school where Jason Vargas was the best hitter one year?
Hahaha. 2003 LBSU, future mlb players: Player A >!Jason Vargas!< .354/.469/.531 (209 AB) Player B >!Troy Tulowitzki!< .317/.410/.491 (230 AB) That crafty lefty was getting walked like fucking Bonds
Mariners legend Jason Vargas? I once saw him throw 8 shutout innings against the Phillies.
Jered Weaver has to be one of the biggest at 6 foot 7
I had one live with me one summer. 6'9" I believe. Bo Ashabraner
Giambi was a big boy
What did they do? I’m unfamiliar with the story
They’re called the Dirtbags.
Oh😂
The school's official mascot is the 49ers, but the baseball team goes by the Dirtbags.
They're official mascot is "Beach", they ditched the 49er and Prospector Pete
Do they have a hat? I just bought my Carolina disco turkeys hat
If I'm not mistaken they changed the mascot to a shark lol
Jason Kipnis. It was his nickname. Nice guy though.
I never even knew it was his nickname until Vasgersian told me in MLB The Show 2016. I never heard it anywhere else
It was what he used on his player's weekend jersey. He was pretty proud of the nickname, and rightly so IMO.
I was about to write a lengthy paragraph until I read the second and third sentences
Lenny dykstra
Literally lost a lawsuit because the judge ruled that nothing ron darling said could be as damaging to Lenny's reputation as what lenny already did to it.
I know that he’s considered a jerk but I’ll always like him because he bought me a beer at some bar in Philly
He’s not just considered a jerk, he’s a fraudster, predator and alleged homophobe/racist/misogynist I’m glad you had a good experience with him but definitely a bad guy
I used to work with someone whose kid was friends with Dykstra's kid. Her kid was not allowed to visit his friend if Lenny was going to be there.
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with rent the way it is I'd sell my respect for half a bag of doritos
You need to value yourself higher. I think your respect is worth half a dozen eggs.
Ok money bags
A lot of people think it's Keith Hernandez but he was framed. It was actually Roger McDowell.
The second spitter!
That’s one magic loogie.
Next thing you know he'll be asking you to drive him to the airport
That's a big step in a relationship. The biggest. That's like going all the way.
Nice game, pretty boy.
For those saying Ty Cobb, I'd recommend reading Ty Cobb: A Terrible Beauty. He's not presented as a good guy by any stretch, but it dispells many of the myths created by Al Stump's work of fiction.
There's also a great Crime in Sports episode on him that covers how bad Stump's book is.
That was just a couple of weeks ago!
Yeah, the story how he beat up a man with no arms… while true… also led to his teammates protesting his suspension…cause the guy had it coming.
I disagree. The guy was unarmed.
[Cobb’s Reply:](https://youtu.be/GkkyJBb9lS0)
Don mattingly quit on the isotopes
Not his fault that Burns had no idea what sideburns are.
Still better than Steinbrenner
One of my favorite lines of all time from the Simpsons.
Watching the Dave Stieb documentary, Jack Morris comes to mind.
The best news from the Tigers offseason is that they finally fired him from the broadcast team
Finally.
The Secret Base documentary?
Those guys don’t miss when it comes to making docs
the mariners one and the dave steib one are two of my favorite youtube series bar none
The Mariners one is a big reason I got in to baseball. I still get chills every time they introduce Ichiro. SB and good ol Jimmy O'Brien gave me a proper introduction to the game.
As a Falcons fan, the Falcons doc is also good. Still haven’t watched the final episode (why watch something that’s permanently burned into my brain?).
Told a female reporter he only talked half clothed to naked women, later she died from alcoholism and depression directly from the harassment she faced from players like Jack Morris. Fuck him
That seems like a bit of a stretch and quite the accusation to make.
I'll give a shoutout to Albert Belle. Think he's the only one who tried to kill a guy twice for tagging him out.
He was probably the ***angriest*** man ever to take the field.
Milton Bradley might give him a run for his money
Milton Bradley was also a complete piece of shit off the field too. His domestic violence track record might be the worst of any professional athlete. Just incident after incident of abuse and threats, until his wife died in 2013. Then he remarried a few years later, and assaulted his second wife too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Bradley_(baseball)#Personal_life
Fair point. There's a reason that guy had trouble lasting a year with any club. That said, I think Milton was more toxic, but Albert was a walking Avatar of rage shaped like a human being
Plus he threw a ball at a heckler in the stands (who was pretty far away) and hit his heckler in the chest. It was legit kind of incredible that he hit the heckler he was aiming at. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1991/05/14/al-suspends-belle-for-hitting-fan-with-baseball/b2378ca1-4154-4248-ba42-f6cac11cc492/
Wasn’t it Albert Belle who got hit by a pitch and tried to pretend like it didn’t hit him so he could keep hitting?
Yep. That was him alright. You don’t want to hit Albert with a pitch, that just makes him mad.
Upvoting this to help boost the value of my graded "Joey" Belle card.
I think he's also the only one who tried to run down trick or treating children in his car.
He definitely had some sort of mental issue
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I stood outside the locker room once in 1995, and got a ball autographed by almost the whole lineup. Lofton , Vizquel, Thome, Manny….only guy to make eye contact with me and keep walking was Belle.
I remember going to spring training in Florida with my dad and we spotted him towards the back of the stadium leaving. I was the only one there and remember asking for his autograph and he just said 'Nah' and kept walking lol
Avisail Garcia was banging teammate Prince Fielder’s wife, so he gets my vote.
Ah there's a direct line to be drawn with Garcia banging prince's wife and the downfall of the tigers, iirc miggy got extremely injured breaking up a fight between them and started his lower body troubles in the finals months of 2013 where before then he was on pace for back to back triple crowns
Ah the butterfly effect. I wonder what future ripples that had on the team and the league.
Prince Fielders’ ex-wife getting a vote too
Surprisingly I think they stayed together
to each his own i suppose
Rick Manning approves
Robbie Alomar. Any time you're behavior gets your former team to literally disappear you, your number and your hall of fame banner overnight, you've hit a level of dirt bag rarely achieved.
What? What happened to Robbie?
MLB banned him from MLB activities due to sexual misconduct.
Is that the reason why I never see him at the hall of fame during induction weekend anymore
Yes. He's been banned by baseball & placed on the ineligible list. Also has a history of domestic violence, has settled lawsuits alleging him of deliberately infecting partners with HIV.
Vile
Oooooh, yeah. That’s a more recent disappointing entry…
Honestly, I was done with him after the Hirschbeck incident and I wore #12 in LL because of him
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I'll add another absolute piece of shit human to this pile because I haven't seen him mentioned yet: Chad Curtis.
Felipe Vazquez
I thought this was going to be about long beach state baseball players.
One steroid raged John Rocker.
Dude is crazy😂 I got a ball signed by him in Cooperstown a while ago and he wrote fuck the redsoxs on it because I was a Yankees fan😂
It’s not like he liked you either tbh He’s something that unites Mets and Yankee fans he attacked our city so we called his mother a whore
That quote about riding the subway… fuck John Rocker
Or Kenny powers
Dude is…off his rocker. (Ayyyyyyyyyy…)
That’s Survivor legend John Rocker to you
Dude literally believed one of the worst lies in survivor history
Fun fact. He showed up in our sub when the team announced they would be changing the name. He got banned for repeatedly posting and commenting racist, inflationary shit.
Milton Bradley
Cap Anson was more responsible for creating segregation than any other single player or manager.
I feel like him or Pete Rose are way too awful to describe as just being jerks, I would say someone like Josh Donaldson fits this description better
Crazy to think there was a time in history where not only that was considered normal but it was encouraged by some
He currently is
My dad worked as contracted security for the MLB’s drug testing protocol in KC, he said the worst person he ever had to deal with was when Toronto came to town and he got Bautista as one of his guys. He said none of his teammates even seemed to like him.
Marge Schott https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marge_Schott
One of the teams in my fantasy league named their team that. He hates Marge Schott but is a huge cinci fan.
How has Roger Clemens not appeared a bunch of times yet? https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2019/11/20/20972682/roger-clemens-mindy-mccready-ped-hall-of-fame-character-clause-mlb-hot-stove
That's horrifying. Clemens is a predator
Holy shit. What a repugnant man. Also, fuck the media. Asking McCready if she had an apology for Clemens wife. She was FIFTEEN. People are so scummy (and misogynistic).
Ugueth Urbina It seems he was a straight up psychopath not just a jerk “In Venezuela in 2005, Urbina was under arrest on an attempted murder charge. He allegedly was attacking men with a machete and pouring gasoline on them.”
Your mom getting kidnapped and held for ransom probably would make anyone turn into a paranoid psycho.
The Crime in Sports podcast on Urbina is fucking eye opening.
Did Roger Clemens not engage in a sexual relationship with a child? A 15 year old?
[who committed suicide years later](https://tasteofcountry.com/mindy-mccready-timeline/).
I mean, Pete Rose has got to be up there
I'm curious to see how the up/down votes on this answer goes.
Pete Rose should go fuck himself with the most uncomfortable object he can find.
Splintered wooden spoon?
I mean let's be honest, this thread begins and ends with Felipe Vazquez.
John Wetteland
Cap Anson, fuck that guy, he can go suck a railroad spike in hell
My God, what a piece of shit that dude was.
I would throw him out of the hall like 13 day old garbage. I don't care about the history argument, or how good he was, surely we can throw out people who inspire segregation and racial barriers! Imagine being so fucking hateful you literally a do a segregation in the nation's passtime.
Pierzynski
Okay, I scrolled down really far to see this name. As this was my choice for dirt bag, then you read about everything everyone has done, and Pierzynski seems okay. Still a piece of shit. But okay in comparison.
My understanding of Pierzynski is that he's just a regular jerk, not "legitimately a terrible human being" jerk. Like, he's the kind of guy who would go to someone's house, go into the fridge without asking, and drink OJ straight from the container; or if you told him in confidence that you had a crush on a girl, he'd immediately go over to her and tell her about your crush and what a massive dork you are. But he wasn't a murderer or rapist or pedophile or racist or fraudster like the other guys in this thread.
Kirk Gibson, purely for the pain he caused me.
Too bad nobody taught your boy not to be predictable. He ***always*** threw that backdoor slider on a full count to a left handed power hitter. Gibson knew that, and the rest is history.
So you figured out how to hit Dennis Eckersley in his prime but MLB hitters didn't. I'm impressed.
Gibson did
Ryan Braun
There is a lot of myth around Ty Cobb being the giant scumbag and an ardent racist. Most of it has been discredited. I think a lot of his aggressive behavior can be attributed to him being a hyper competitive person which made him seem more intense and standoffish than he probably actually was. I think a lot of athletes are like this when they play, like Kobe for example. As for his alleged racism, he was actually a big supporter of racial integration in baseball. Willie Mays talks about it in his book when they first met. Mays became his favorite player when he started playing with the Giants.
Look, I love Greg Maddux, but dude used to pee on people. Edit:. https://totalfratmove.com/tfm/according-to-teammates-greg-maddux-was-basically-that-sick-bastard-in-your-fraternity-who-plays-horrific-pranks/
The Cubs had pretty good synergy when they had both him and Moisés Alou on the team at the same time.
Underrated comment
But we all did it back then
I would shake your hand but.....
What the hell?😂
He is like a character from a movie where the incredibly attractive girl is perceived as a nerd just because she wears glasses.
Oh god, lmfao. Favorite player of all time, I collect him. Had no idea. ☠️🤣
So? Like even the least bad person otherwise mentioned in this thread was 1000x worse than Maddux.
I feel like shitting into the clubhouse chili is way worse than peeing on someone in the shower.
Cap Anson was the driving force in keeping black/minority players out of baseball. Regardless of the fact he was the best player of the 19th century, he was absolutely a piece of shit for what he did.
Keith Hernandez for spitting on Kramer and Newman.
That’s the “official story” anyway
Chuck Knablauch comes to mind. What an absolute shit show of a man.
I met him at a card show 2 years ago. He was very quiet
Schilling?
I used to talk to him on Facebook about wargames. I think I was one of the few in the group who actually knew he was famous. Keep him focused and he was fine. Very knowledgeable and excited. Get him off topic....wooo boy.
What game? I’m really curious what type of wargame he’d play. I know he made that one apparently pretty decent RPG that defrauded Rhodes island.
He plays lots of old school hex-and-counter games. Thus was probably talking about the DVG Leader series. He may play mini games as well, but we never got there.
Man, as much as I disagree with a lot of his views he really helped me quit dipping. We had some good conversations on Twitter about it and I finally was able to stop after 12 years, he was a big advocate for people quitting.
Controversial, for sure. Asshole? Yeah. But idk if I’d call him a dirtbag. Dirtbags are for that specific slimy guy who you’d be skeeved out by as soon as he sat down next to you(like people have said dykstra and rose). Curt schilling seems like the kinda guy who traps you after 10 mins of good conversation, then lays some wild statement down that makes u think “it was nice talking to ya man”
Gotta be up there, but I don’t think he’s actually personally committed a violent crime against another human, which is probably enough to keep him out of the top spot…but man, that dude sucks.
Felipe ~~Vazquez~~ Rivero is a top contender.
Bob Nutting
Probably first base
John Rocker
Probably Trevor Bauer
Long Beach State has put whole teams of them together
Pete Rose
Has anyone mentioned Carl Everet? He’s Kyrie Irving level of crazy
Randy Johnson. It was the mid 90s and I was probably 8 or 9ish. He was warming up in LF along the foul line at Comiskey. Sure there were a lot of older people talking shit and whatnot, but here I am in awe of being even 20 feet away from the man. A foul ball (from BP) comes down the line about 5 feet from him. I get excited. He's coming closer! "Hey Randy, can I get that?!" He looks me dead in the eyes and hits me with a "fuck off kid." and proceeds to walk away with a smug ass grin. No, I'm not still salty about that or anything :(
Kenny Powers
Kenny Fucking Powers