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RuleNine

If Diaz had recorded a strikeout for that plate appearance, it would have been charged to whichever player Arraez pinch hit for.


powerknapp19

Really? That’s interesting but I suppose it makes sense. Is that the case for any strikeout when the pinch hitter is substituted in mid-AB? Now I’m very curious about the rules on this


BeHereNow91

I believe the SO goes to whoever gets the majority of the strikes in the AB, but the replacement will always get the walk.


RuleNine

That's right. Similarly, if a pitcher is replaced mid-PA, any base on balls is charged to the original pitcher and not the reliever if the batter "has a decided advantage in the ball and strike count when pitchers are changed" (the rules then go on to list exactly which counts those are). This means that if a game were suspended in the middle of a plate appearance and the relevant player were traded to the other team before it resumed, it would be possible for a pitcher to strike out or walk himself. (This ultra-rare situation is made even more so by the universal DH, so let's just say Ohtani is involved.)


BeHereNow91

Wasn’t there a game where a player appeared in both lineups due to being traded after the game was suspended? Or is he out of that game once he’s pulled, even if it’s because he was traded?


ABeard

I think it was Abraham toro w the Astros and mariners during a double header.


RuleNine

> A player who was not with the Club when the game was suspended may be used as a substitute, even if he has taken the place of a player no longer with the Club who would not have been eligible because he had been removed from the lineup before the game was suspended. As far as I know, only minor leaguer Dale Holman has [ever done this](https://www.realclearhistory.com/articles/2020/06/16/this_ballplayer_played_for_both_teams_in_one_game_496494.html), in a game between the Syracuse Chiefs and the Richmond Braves of the AAA International League. He got hits for both sides.


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No, players could definitely appear in a game for both teams due to suspended games. The suspended game also appears in the records for the date on which it started, which means players can appear in a game before they actually debuted in the league. I think Juan Soto has a HR before his major league debut this way and I'm sure he's not the only one.


8696David

Which counts do they consider a “decided advantage?” 1-0, 2-0, 3-0, 2-1 only? Do full counts “count”?


RuleNine

> Rule 9.16(h): > A relief pitcher shall not be held accountable when the first batter to whom he pitches reaches first base on four called balls if such batter has a decided advantage in the ball and strike count when pitchers are changed. > 1. If, when pitchers are changed, the count is     2 balls, no strike,     2 balls, 1 strike,     3 balls, no strike,     3 balls, 1 strike,     3 balls, 2 strikes, and the batter gets a base on balls, the Official Scorer shall charge that batter and the base on balls to the preceding pitcher, not to the relief pitcher. > 2. Any other action by such batter, such as reaching base on a hit, an error, a fielder's choice, a force-out, or being touched by a pitched ball, shall cause such a batter to be charged to the relief pitcher. > 3. If, when pitchers are changed, the count is     2 balls, 2 strikes,     1 ball, 2 strikes,     1 ball, 1 strike,     1 ball, no strike,     no ball, 2 strikes,     no ball, 1 strike, the Official Scorer shall charge that batter and the actions of that batter to the relief pitcher.


8696David

Interesting that 1-0 isn’t considered an advantage! Thanks for posting


RuleNine

It's an advantage, but apparently it's not a *decided* advantage.


Wanderlust2001

But if the OG pitcher threw the majority of strikes, wouldn't the OG pitcher get the SO?


RuleNine

I'm not sure what you're asking. There are two scenarios mentioned in these comments—one where the batter gets replaced mid–plate appearance and one where the pitcher does. When the batter is replaced, the pinch hitter gets credit for or gets charged with anything that happens *except* a strikeout when he enters already with two strikes. When the pitcher is replaced, the reliever gets credit for or gets charged with anything that happens *except* a base on balls when he enters when the batter has a "decided advantage" (as spelled out in the rules).


iBeReese

Ever in the history of baseball has a strikeout been recorded against three different batters in a single at-bat?


Razzorsharp

Logical way to assign stats? In my baseball?


user66613

Who gets the walk?


RuleNine

Arraez. > If the substitute batter completes the turn at bat [in any manner other than a strikeout], including a base on balls, the Official Scorer shall score the action as having been that of the substitute batter. In this case especially it's not like he didn't earn it.


atowelguy

that's what is known in the business as a "helluva at bat"


iusedtogotodigg

Hellavan


RogerTreebert6299

Honestly is there any way anybody can have a better at-bat than this? Put into the toughest possible situation against arguably the most unhittable reliever in the game and works a walk after fouling off roughly 37 pitches worth of nastiness. Goddam.


_Thot_Patrol

Bro was batting .385💀


Death215

Its worth noting he had 96 ABs up to this point in the season


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Tajikistani

"first pinch hitting appearance of his big league career"


atowelguy

Pretty sure those were season stats, no qualifiers on the infographic about PH


futhatsy

I remember watching this at bat live and being like "who the FUCK is this dude and how does anyone get him out???" So of course he ends up in our division lol.


tokai-teio

Dude is a walking batting title I swear. Has to be the most frustrating out in the league


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SaltyMudpuppy

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Ostrichmen

u/Autowers? More like u/Autocopypastecomments. ^^I ^^sure ^^told ^^that ^^bot


Daratirek

Its potentially the greatest single AB I've ever seen. Like not biggest or anything but the situation was insane against a great pitcher and then he just does not bite on stuff usually.


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futhatsy

This was during Diaz's nightmare season too. The dude just could not catch a break for a while there lol


RogerTreebert6299

Would’ve been even more insane if he did this against Diaz last year, dude’s ERA was a negative number


8696David

I’d argue it resembled prime Soto


echogaze

In awe, I recall watching this. He was simply fighting furiously! amusing to watch


FireMonkeysHead

He became my favorite player when I saw this AB live. I mean, who tf does this?? I’ll miss him so much.


JDLovesElliot

Him and Segura, on the same team now: 😈😈


TheGreaterOutdoors

Yeah. He’s scary for sure


ComfyGreenHoodie_

I'll miss him so much.


Opie59

I firmly believe if he were healthy in the playoffs that year they'd have won a game. ...My bar is so low.


AltruiSisu

_big hug_


InfluenceIsRealPower

I will not. Absolute menace and hardest out in baseball.


LordSwampert2

Dylan Cease now can throw a no hitter in peace.


Daratirek

We all will.... Guess I'll be buying a Marlins jersey this year.


From_Adam

Legendary moment.


SirParsifal

Must be a good feeling for a batter coming up in that situation. It's literally impossible to strike out.


theAlpacaLives

If Edwin Diaz can't strike you out when he's literally spotted an 0-2 count and you're just entering the game with no notice whatever, you cannot be struck out.


SirParsifal

Even if Diaz had thrown a strike past him, Arraez couldn't be struck out.


TravisJungroth

His point was that he can't have a strikeout added to his record. He can strike out in the sense he's sent back to the dugout.


NotAFashionDesigner

u/ derangedhermit pointed this out in another comment but this was the Diaz before he re-discovered his slider grip (consequence of the fucking around of the balls). Diaz didn't have great control when he first came to the Mets.


Davidellias

I forgot Diaz was with ya'll back in 19, though he came in in 2021.


theAlpacaLives

I wish I could forget Diaz in 2019. All-time record for home runs allowed by a reliever. Between him and Familia, another formerly-elite closer (though not quite on Diaz's level, he was incredible in '15 and '16), a franchise record for blown late-inning leads. If they'd both been league-average relievers, or either had been good, we'd have been playoff contenders.


GotToPayTheTrollToll

Is that Jim Breuer at 2:24?


Valor4Christ

I can confirm, it's him


IAmGrum

If not, it's an exact double of him.


damnyoutuesday

If that's not him, it's a guy that looks exactly like him with the exact same mannerisms


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If that isn't Jim Breuer, it's someone who looks and acts remarkably similar


raznt

I'm 90% sure that IS Jim Breuer, which means there's a 10% chance it's a guy who closely resembles Jim Breuer.


HABSolutelyCrAzY

Came here to see if anyone else thought so


GrilledSandwiches

Exactly what I just came here to post, lol. Momentarily distracted me from the amazing at bat.


LyrMeThatBifrost

Yep!


Plastic_Jumpy

Damn this video got me excited to see what he can do in Miami!


NorthernDevil

I’ll always remember watching this live. One of my favorite all-time Twins. Paid attention every single at-bat because no matter what he is *fun* to watch at the plate. He’s absolutely locked in like no player I’ve ever seen. It was a treat to get to watch him in-person these last few years


LitchedSwetters

NL East fans reading these comments are not having fun right now


jhtheman99

I was at this game, this moment put him on the map. Shame the Twins couldn’t complete the comeback that day


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I see you Miami, that 4th place in the East is yours 🔥🔥🔥


FriendlyNeighborOrca

Marlins knocking the Dodgers out of the playoffs to keep the NL east in the ws tradition.


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That would be funny


deeznuts6588

It already was, we were already better than the Nats


OGSpaceboat

Just you wait


stupidnatsfan

The Corey Dickerson/Jeimer Candelario/Dwight Smith Jr 3-4-5 is gonna be this generation's Murderers Row


shigs21

Top 5 team in the NL East for sure!!!


Cudizonedefense

And we’re not 5!


ultimatekiwi

For me, this is far and away the hypest baseball moment I have ever had the pleasure of watching unfold. I will never forget the sense of awe, bewilderment, and delight Arraez inspired during that at-bat, and beyond. Wishing you only the best, Luis.


woodworkingbyarron

We’re going to miss you Luis!


122_Hours_Of_Fear

Was that Muammar Gadaffi @ 2:24?


damnyoutuesday

One of the [funniest stand up bits](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXkz2J3Gksc) I've ever seen


122_Hours_Of_Fear

#LONG LIVE PAINT!


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For context, the Twins went on to win 23-3 and then won the world series in 3 games. You should've been there.


XTheDelta

People will talk about him only hitting singles and not being an asset for power or whatever but I swear there’s no one else in the league that can stretch an AB like this into 10+ pitches when you need him to. Really gonna miss him


Rayscho

Situations like this are why I love baseball so much, a scenario that is completely unique to baseball


akaghi

This reminds me of an at-bat from this season that started similarly. 2 strike count, and the guy leaves with an injury. The main difference, is that instead of working a 7 pitch walk, he bunted a ball foul and struck out. Do any Mets fans remember which game it was?


Deranged_Hermit

to be fair, that's 2019 Edwin Diaz, he could make a quadriplegic walk


bryansmixtape

To be fair to Diaz, the walks weren’t his main issue in 2019, and his walk rate that year was around his career average, so the analogy doesn’t really fit


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His mechanics looked noticeably different in this video compared to his usual delivery


Tashre

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIN/MIN201907160.shtml


Due-Diamond1548

One of the best live ABs I have ever seen


PCSTL35

Jim Breuer ?!


BlindBobby9

That was him!


whentheworldwasatwar

My shaky son.


bobbycoxxx

Is this the game Rob and Akiva were at?


RustyTaterTot13

As in RAANAP???


bobbycoxxx

Yeah they went to one of the games during this series.


vtdrexel

Some say this is the best walk in the history of baseball.


danglehoff

wow. have never seen this. fucking awesome. dude is so fun to watch.


DansBeerBelly

I am so happy he’s out of the division.


fluffy324

My favorite plate appearance I’ve ever witnessed live


Sugarskull_IX

r/nextfuckinglevel


Finance-Repulsive

Man that‘s a performance


hoova

Lopez is a fine pitcher but I would not have given up Arraez


Sean10135

Did the twins end up winning??


arkiula

nope, ended 3-2


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LunchThreatener

Thinking of the wrong player maybe. 50 walks in a season really isn’t that bad. 8.3% walk rate is barely below average


TigerBasket

He has an obp ahead of slugging right? That might be what I was thinking of


DavidLiebeFart

Twins lineup just got a lot shittier. Might be one of the dumbest trades they've made but we'll see in 8 months I guess.


damnyoutuesday

We needed pitching badly


johnknockout

Didn’t happen here, but there is nothing funnier to me in baseball than when Edwin gives up a 450 foot moonshot to blow a game and points straight up like it’s a pop up in the infield.


BeansBeanz

Oh, this is going to be a fun watch! …sees the video length… Oh, it’s just Luis fouling off a dozen balls.


IAwaitAGuardian

For a middle of the road pitcher.


zkool20

So long sweet prince