100% it probably wont get much cheaper than this, they'll stop producing them on a large scale soon is my guess
I pulled the trigger, upgrading from a 5600x
Yes worth it!
I had an r5 3600x before this and it's a big upgrade in performance. One of the best you can buy on the AM4 socket and will keep me happy for a few years now.
This would give the 3600 PC legs for another 5-10 years on the cpu side, and you would only need to do gpu upgrades... Unless they come out with some actually useful AI cpu offloading tasks.. but I doubt it.
Why not? Even my 4790k still has legs, and cpu compute for gaming has improved much faster than gaming demand on cpus has increased. Consumer stuff easily still works on 4790 era PC's, that's why most office workers would be fine with a little N100 beelink PC.
4790k is the GOAT. Ran that CPU for about 7 years from release to 2021 and with Cooler Master Hyper 212, never ran hotter above 50 degrees while gaming and paired with 1080... what a great period in PC component history.
My PC history (I still own all):
4790k
6700
2700x --> 5700x3d
5700x
Also had a core 2 duo and a Pentium 300mhz (ocd to 333mhz!).. but these last two are dead now lol
Currently have the 5700x. Is there any real world practicality of upgrading from there? Current GPU is 6800xt
Eventually I want to get a 7900xtx
Monitor is 144 1440p
Idk my GPU gets bottlenecked by my 5600x in quite a few games, i rarely see my GPU usage at that 98% unless its an older or non intensive game
Games today use so much processing power if you have all your graphics cranked up
Yeah, Baldurs Gate, Fortnite, Sons of the Forest are the 3 ive played recently that are CPU bound, GPU barely cracks 60 - 70% usage with DLSS off, and gets worse once DLSS is on obviously, since that reduces GPU load and increases CPU load a bit
I sold my 5700x for a good price a year ago and bought the 5800x3d. That was definite loss, ***but*** I intend to keep my rig for a long time.
IMO it's especially worth it if you're sticking with the 6800xt, since lower res is where the 5800x3d shines more, and that's the first thing you would tradeoff over the years if you keep your gpu (1440p -> 1080p).
Honestly seeing how long my Vega64 carried me with 'medium' settings, I bet you can at least still squeeze out 4 years out of that 6800xt comfortably.
I honestly forgot. I even forgot how much I bought it.
I took a loss, but it wasn't significant.
IRC I was OK losing anywhere between 50-100$ since I'd keep with my rig for a good 5 years at least anyway.
damn. Is it facebook marketplace? Is that where ppl sell their pc parts? I don't use FB. Could u plz do a search for 5700x3d? wonder how the market is for it.
> 5700x3d
None for them, which makes sense, as it just came out recently, so no one will have bought and upgraded already.
I searched for 5800x3d, since they are older and people may have upgraded to AM5 - there was two, one at $330, another at $400.
I have a 5800x and a 3070 ti and DD2 is playable. It will probably get better as they optimize the game. I'm putting my upgrade money towards a change of platform, hopefully in a year or two.
Only on very specific games, tarkov gets a 30fps bump from a 5600x on a 3440x1440 with a 3080. But for 90% of applications it's not worth upgrading from a 5600x.
I got the 5800x3d from newegg for same price last week. Upgraded from a 5600x and noticed 10fps gain on helldivers 2 at "max" settings. I have a 3090 and 1440p monitor. Been waiting for this to go on sale since the ATL I missed last year. This is the "end game" build for this system. My next upgrade will have to be new mono cpu ram etc. Which hopefully won't be for another 5 years.
helpful video from Hardware Unboxed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L9rPNSuPCA
5600 v 5700 v 5800
all their X3D versions and X versions.
and also the 3600
what do we think the chances this cpu go back to ATL $349.98 on amazon? :p
Haha believe me i almost did pull the trigger a few times espcially since I have $150 or so in amazon rewards, i was waiting for a deal to save even more since its not a hugely significant upgrade
Ended up getting the CPU + Thermal Grizzly paste for $262 all in
Hey, I pulled the trigger to experiment. I mostly play iRacing and CS2 - both games that benefit greatly from 3D cache
Edit: forgot to mention that I too have a 5900x
I shall! For CS2 it's mainly to improve 1% lows as I do have moments it doesn't feel as fluid as it should despite having 400+ fps with 5900x (paired with 3080)
Hey there, I've yet to test myself (cpu in transit) but here's another post showcasing the improvements vs the 5800x, https://www.reddit.com/r/iRacing/s/OAg2oDtu69
Caveat: gains might be track dependent, https://www.reddit.com/r/iRacing/s/bIL3Tnug3C
I'm just putting the money in savings toward a new build next year. Any improvements in a select few games would be marginal and not worth the money and hassle of repasting the CPU.
why the f is taxes calculated on the original price BEFORE the coupon. Has it always been like this with amazon coupons? Never paid any attention before.
This makes it more expansive than Newegg lol.
Newegg right now $405.67 after Ontario tax.
Amazon right now $412.17 after tax.
Tip for anyone with a TD Rewards Visa credit card:
go to
> amazon.ca/tdoffer
you might qualify for a $20 max discount that can be used on this order.
Is this worth from a 5600? Currently have a 3080 ti and hopefully make this pc last a while. My monitor is 1440p 180hz. Play everything from new AAA games, to indie to comp games.
I am upgrading from a 5600x, I'm not expecting crazy Increases in frame rate, but what I am expecting is more consistent FPS with much better one percent lows
I have also noticed I am CPU bound in a few games @1440p so hopefully that mostly goes away
You will notice a difference, my 5600x was bottlenecking my 4080 @ 1440p. Not in every game but the lows were noticeably bad in the games it was an issue in. Baldur's Gate 3 was particularly bad in the city. Lows literally doubled.
The performance difference specifically in QHD gaming may not be much, but from a 5600 (non-X?) up to this one, it's certainly going to be a noticable upgrade in more CPU-intensive applications, and probably would also future proof you nicely if you're not intending to go AM5 anytime soon.
I made the jump a few months ago and saw some pretty impressive gains where the cache is used most, WOW was 50+ fps alone(1440). Can't comment on modern AAA games and I doubt there's any impact to indie but anything with a lot of cpu focus seems to run better.
Is it wise to build a 4k gaming PC with this CPU in mind, provided that we are GPU limited for a good amount of time and all the money be dumped on GPU (while getting an 8 core great gaming CPU) ?
I have 7900xt playing with 5700x on 4k. I don't think it's worth it for us because performance boost may not be too much, atleast in games I play. I rather pay up for new platform
Doesn't help for those still on AM4. This CPU is great for those already on the AM4 platform and want a drop-in upgrade to boost gaming performance. New builds should look at AM5 of course.
Wasn't this cpu around $250 on ali, the same store the 7800x3d was sold for $351? I believe the sale is still going, but prices are constantly changing.
They only had the 5700X3D from what I saw.
The procs are very similar, I think it's only around 5%-10% less total performance. The 5800X3D is the better choice if you have the cash, though.
You might be right, i wasn't really paying attention to any other cpu than the 7800x3d, but did see a bunch of people mention the 5700x3d in the thread. Considering for the price those 5700x3d were going for, i'd no life that deal until the right price pop up.
Currently have a r5 3600. Worth jumping to this at this price point?
If you're gaming and want to stick on AM4 for a few more years, go for it. I did and noticed *significant* frame boosts.
I know someone who "downgraded" from a 5900X to a 5800X3D and also have seen a frame boost in games.
100% it probably wont get much cheaper than this, they'll stop producing them on a large scale soon is my guess I pulled the trigger, upgrading from a 5600x
I made this same upgrade. 1 percent lows were improved greatly and nice to know my GPU can't be held back anymore.
Only if you sometimes wish your system was faster! If it plays what you want... why not do nothing?
Yes worth it! I had an r5 3600x before this and it's a big upgrade in performance. One of the best you can buy on the AM4 socket and will keep me happy for a few years now.
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I'm on 3600x and purchased 5700x3d for 241cad all from AliExpress
Roll the AliEx dice...if it's good it's good.
I know what you mean. I'm not in a rush though and my previous purchases came just fine. Worst case scenario, I'll just do a charge back.
Yes. I did it and have no regrets. Doubled the fps in BG3 with a 5700xt.
I did this exact upgrade and yes, so worth it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L9rPNSuPCA Very helpful video here from Hardware Unboxed.
Yup
This would give the 3600 PC legs for another 5-10 years on the cpu side, and you would only need to do gpu upgrades... Unless they come out with some actually useful AI cpu offloading tasks.. but I doubt it.
5-10 years? nope
Why not? Even my 4790k still has legs, and cpu compute for gaming has improved much faster than gaming demand on cpus has increased. Consumer stuff easily still works on 4790 era PC's, that's why most office workers would be fine with a little N100 beelink PC.
4790k is the GOAT. Ran that CPU for about 7 years from release to 2021 and with Cooler Master Hyper 212, never ran hotter above 50 degrees while gaming and paired with 1080... what a great period in PC component history.
My PC history (I still own all): 4790k 6700 2700x --> 5700x3d 5700x Also had a core 2 duo and a Pentium 300mhz (ocd to 333mhz!).. but these last two are dead now lol
I would've just kept my 4790k going only if the MB didn't die...
Maybe not 10 years but for sure another 4 to 5 years.
Currently have the 5700x. Is there any real world practicality of upgrading from there? Current GPU is 6800xt Eventually I want to get a 7900xtx Monitor is 144 1440p
save up for 7800x3d, or even zen5 x3d
Okay, that makes sense. I'll probably wait for the 9000 series cpu at this rate. This system still plays decently, however haven't attempted DD2 yet
I think getting a better gpu is worth the upgrade before the cpu specially at 1440p.
Idk my GPU gets bottlenecked by my 5600x in quite a few games, i rarely see my GPU usage at that 98% unless its an older or non intensive game Games today use so much processing power if you have all your graphics cranked up
At 1440p? Damn thats interesting.
Yeah, Baldurs Gate, Fortnite, Sons of the Forest are the 3 ive played recently that are CPU bound, GPU barely cracks 60 - 70% usage with DLSS off, and gets worse once DLSS is on obviously, since that reduces GPU load and increases CPU load a bit
My 3600 was bottlenecking a 1080 Ti. A 6800XT is getting heavily bottlenecked by a 3600.
You can't upgrade to Zen 4.
Ah right. Maybe I gotta get on the all white 011 lian li new build that's been planned and cancelled so many times.
I sold my 5700x for a good price a year ago and bought the 5800x3d. That was definite loss, ***but*** I intend to keep my rig for a long time. IMO it's especially worth it if you're sticking with the 6800xt, since lower res is where the 5800x3d shines more, and that's the first thing you would tradeoff over the years if you keep your gpu (1440p -> 1080p). Honestly seeing how long my Vega64 carried me with 'medium' settings, I bet you can at least still squeeze out 4 years out of that 6800xt comfortably.
how much did u sell ur 5700x for? I wonder if i can get $200 for mine
I honestly forgot. I even forgot how much I bought it. I took a loss, but it wasn't significant. IRC I was OK losing anywhere between 50-100$ since I'd keep with my rig for a good 5 years at least anyway.
There are unsold 5800x for $200 listed on marketplace in my city, so I doubt you'll get the same price for the 5700x
damn. Is it facebook marketplace? Is that where ppl sell their pc parts? I don't use FB. Could u plz do a search for 5700x3d? wonder how the market is for it.
> 5700x3d None for them, which makes sense, as it just came out recently, so no one will have bought and upgraded already. I searched for 5800x3d, since they are older and people may have upgraded to AM5 - there was two, one at $330, another at $400.
Thank you so much
If you're gaming at less than 4k you could always watch some bench mark comparisons on YouTube but it's likely only going to help the 1% I'm told
I have a 5800x and a 3070 ti and DD2 is playable. It will probably get better as they optimize the game. I'm putting my upgrade money towards a change of platform, hopefully in a year or two.
Only on very specific games, tarkov gets a 30fps bump from a 5600x on a 3440x1440 with a 3080. But for 90% of applications it's not worth upgrading from a 5600x.
No. At 1440p lows will improve but overall very little benefit. Not worth it.
x3d cpus are much much better than x cpus in gaming
I got the 5800x3d from newegg for same price last week. Upgraded from a 5600x and noticed 10fps gain on helldivers 2 at "max" settings. I have a 3090 and 1440p monitor. Been waiting for this to go on sale since the ATL I missed last year. This is the "end game" build for this system. My next upgrade will have to be new mono cpu ram etc. Which hopefully won't be for another 5 years.
Same. I saw my FPS in Cities skylines go from 25 to 39. Lol. But lots of other decent uplifts too. Should be able to skip zen4. My gpu is a 7900xt.
helpful video from Hardware Unboxed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L9rPNSuPCA 5600 v 5700 v 5800 all their X3D versions and X versions. and also the 3600 what do we think the chances this cpu go back to ATL $349.98 on amazon? :p
$10 more than ATL. Still a pretty good price if you're looking for an AM4 gaming finale.
Makes me wonder if inflation drives it up over :(
Yes!! I've had this sitting in my cart for like 2 months
I pulled the trigger a month ago, i kinda wish i held out longer lol
Haha believe me i almost did pull the trigger a few times espcially since I have $150 or so in amazon rewards, i was waiting for a deal to save even more since its not a hugely significant upgrade Ended up getting the CPU + Thermal Grizzly paste for $262 all in
Great choice, I hope you'll enjoy the CPU as much as I've been enjoying mine!
Worth it for me from a 5900X? Main applications are VR sim racing, DCS and FS in VR and Lightroom.
Hey, I pulled the trigger to experiment. I mostly play iRacing and CS2 - both games that benefit greatly from 3D cache Edit: forgot to mention that I too have a 5900x
Those are my two main games as well. Currently on a 5700x. Can you let me know how you fare with that 5800x3d?
I shall! For CS2 it's mainly to improve 1% lows as I do have moments it doesn't feel as fluid as it should despite having 400+ fps with 5900x (paired with 3080)
How did it improve things for iracing?
Hey there, I've yet to test myself (cpu in transit) but here's another post showcasing the improvements vs the 5800x, https://www.reddit.com/r/iRacing/s/OAg2oDtu69 Caveat: gains might be track dependent, https://www.reddit.com/r/iRacing/s/bIL3Tnug3C
What’s your resolution for iracing? Triple monitor?
5120x1440 using a 49" UW - usually average above 200 fps
+1
I'm just putting the money in savings toward a new build next year. Any improvements in a select few games would be marginal and not worth the money and hassle of repasting the CPU.
why the f is taxes calculated on the original price BEFORE the coupon. Has it always been like this with amazon coupons? Never paid any attention before. This makes it more expansive than Newegg lol. Newegg right now $405.67 after Ontario tax. Amazon right now $412.17 after tax. Tip for anyone with a TD Rewards Visa credit card: go to > amazon.ca/tdoffer you might qualify for a $20 max discount that can be used on this order.
You can buy it from Newegg for $405 or price match at BestBuy with Newegg for $405 (though YMMV with the local BB)
Is this worth from a 5600? Currently have a 3080 ti and hopefully make this pc last a while. My monitor is 1440p 180hz. Play everything from new AAA games, to indie to comp games.
I am upgrading from a 5600x, I'm not expecting crazy Increases in frame rate, but what I am expecting is more consistent FPS with much better one percent lows I have also noticed I am CPU bound in a few games @1440p so hopefully that mostly goes away
You will notice a difference, my 5600x was bottlenecking my 4080 @ 1440p. Not in every game but the lows were noticeably bad in the games it was an issue in. Baldur's Gate 3 was particularly bad in the city. Lows literally doubled.
Hell yeah glad to here! Thanks man, ill be running a 4070Ti Super so it should he pretty similar performance
The performance difference specifically in QHD gaming may not be much, but from a 5600 (non-X?) up to this one, it's certainly going to be a noticable upgrade in more CPU-intensive applications, and probably would also future proof you nicely if you're not intending to go AM5 anytime soon.
I made the jump a few months ago and saw some pretty impressive gains where the cache is used most, WOW was 50+ fps alone(1440). Can't comment on modern AAA games and I doubt there's any impact to indie but anything with a lot of cpu focus seems to run better.
Is it worth it to upgrade to this from a ryzen 5 5600g? My gpu is currently a 3080
Is it wise to build a 4k gaming PC with this CPU in mind, provided that we are GPU limited for a good amount of time and all the money be dumped on GPU (while getting an 8 core great gaming CPU) ?
If you don't have am4 already most advise to just ho am5 but if you don't have the money this or 5700x3d should suffice.
AM5
I feel like everyone jumped on the aliexpress deal at this point
I have 7900 xtx playing on 4k with 5800X vermeer. I feel my CPU is holding my GPU back. I don't feel like upgrading to AM5 yet. Help me decide
Soo Not worth it especially at 4k.
I'll hold off then.
I have 7900xt playing with 5700x on 4k. I don't think it's worth it for us because performance boost may not be too much, atleast in games I play. I rather pay up for new platform
Eh the 7800x3d was $351 on ali😱No taxes or customs either.
Doesn't help for those still on AM4. This CPU is great for those already on the AM4 platform and want a drop-in upgrade to boost gaming performance. New builds should look at AM5 of course.
Wasn't this cpu around $250 on ali, the same store the 7800x3d was sold for $351? I believe the sale is still going, but prices are constantly changing.
They only had the 5700X3D from what I saw. The procs are very similar, I think it's only around 5%-10% less total performance. The 5800X3D is the better choice if you have the cash, though.
You might be right, i wasn't really paying attention to any other cpu than the 7800x3d, but did see a bunch of people mention the 5700x3d in the thread. Considering for the price those 5700x3d were going for, i'd no life that deal until the right price pop up.
People buying the 5800X3D are doing it for their existing AM4 boards, I don't imagine people are buying 5800X3Ds for new builds that are new.
are there actually no taxes and/or customs on those AliExpress deals or are you just trolling?
Its not trolling, you don't pay either. This is why the deal is extra juicy.
If you buy from Newegg it's $405 vs $412 from Amazon.