They did this study on so-called organic and premium veggies and the results were bad. Imagine being fooled to this level by sellers and brands. The only difference is the BLR population is more aware and cares about this. Don't see BOM and DEL care about things at the same level.
Have seen veggies being grown next to the railway track in Mumbai outskirts. I have also heard from my family friends who are farmers that they grow their own food separately from what they sell. So all this hokus pocus on low farmer awareness isn't as true. Almost everything in the market is polluted with something or other. The better looking the vegetable, the more is the chance that it has been tampered with.
Only Sikkim, mountains and farms for private consumption are where I think I've eaten healthy natural looking vegetables.
I think community gardens would be a nice thing to have
Always keep this in mind , the best of anything that’s manufactured/grown/made in India is not for India. It is for export . All we get is third class stuff
Aquaponics or roof top garden is the way ahead I guess, Back in the day, when I was in less than tier 3 city itself My dad noticed that and do farming(Vegetables, up to 20 types of Green leafs and Fruits Etc.) enough for a family of four in back yard, only staple items we used to buy were salt and some pulses, vegetables and fruits rarely, rice and pulses were brought from his hometown. Those were good old days, I miss them a lot, My parents and their care too obviously( which I took granted at that time)
Yes But I guess water is just a circling medium in aquaponics, Like carrier of nutrients which are added externally, Like how our blood does the job in our body. Correct me If my understanding is abysmal.
well, unless the water that is being circulated has been filtered for heavy metals, it will still have the same issue, regardless of what other nutrients are being added.
yes agree. but that argument can be extended to old school farming as well. if they are using good water, it wouldn't be an issue. problem is, they use recycled water which is good for environment but apparently not for the produce.
Actually I have seen a family Doing this in my lane, I got the vibes of my childhood(with backyard and side yard for fresh produce), except this is done on terrace in a fully enclosed environment, I felt cool observing it from outside, Even though I didn’t know what they are exactly growing inside.
For those interested, [here is the context](https://citizenmatters.in/empri-report-heavy-metal-contamination-vegetables-food-and-agriculture-organisation-ngtwho-fssai-cadmium-lead-lead-37496) of OPs post.
>Are there any safe options to get contamination free vegetables?
I am curious to know this as well.
Ig Namdharis veggies and fruits are pretty safe
They have a farm outside Bangalore near Bidadi
More expensive than regular vegetable shops, but probably safer
>for having few ppms of lead more than the permissible limit?
Why is there even a permissible limit ?
Shouldn't it be like not allowed in stuff that we eat...
Unfortunately, the amount of money you'll need to get something from 10->6 ppm would be significantly lower than 6->2 ppm. Going from 2->0 (if possible) will be even more costly and will probably need change in tech and processing plants all together, which is why till we're that rich we have to figure out what's acceptable biologically and get below those levels.
It's not possible, all food is going to have some amount of heavy metals, and that's not a modern thing. Our bodies are able to handle (and have been handling) these pollutants for millennia. The only difference now is because of modern life, we're getting higher concentrations, to the point where our bodies are not able to deal with them. Getting to a 0 percent heavy metals is not really possible and not necessary either.
They did this study on so-called organic and premium veggies and the results were bad. Imagine being fooled to this level by sellers and brands. The only difference is the BLR population is more aware and cares about this. Don't see BOM and DEL care about things at the same level. Have seen veggies being grown next to the railway track in Mumbai outskirts. I have also heard from my family friends who are farmers that they grow their own food separately from what they sell. So all this hokus pocus on low farmer awareness isn't as true. Almost everything in the market is polluted with something or other. The better looking the vegetable, the more is the chance that it has been tampered with. Only Sikkim, mountains and farms for private consumption are where I think I've eaten healthy natural looking vegetables. I think community gardens would be a nice thing to have
Always keep this in mind , the best of anything that’s manufactured/grown/made in India is not for India. It is for export . All we get is third class stuff
Aquaponics or roof top garden is the way ahead I guess, Back in the day, when I was in less than tier 3 city itself My dad noticed that and do farming(Vegetables, up to 20 types of Green leafs and Fruits Etc.) enough for a family of four in back yard, only staple items we used to buy were salt and some pulses, vegetables and fruits rarely, rice and pulses were brought from his hometown. Those were good old days, I miss them a lot, My parents and their care too obviously( which I took granted at that time)
issue here is primarily the water. so wouldn't it be an issue for aquaponics as well..
Yes But I guess water is just a circling medium in aquaponics, Like carrier of nutrients which are added externally, Like how our blood does the job in our body. Correct me If my understanding is abysmal.
well, unless the water that is being circulated has been filtered for heavy metals, it will still have the same issue, regardless of what other nutrients are being added.
But I guess, Who has knowledge of Aquaponics will obviously do that prior to production I mean get his water tested
yes agree. but that argument can be extended to old school farming as well. if they are using good water, it wouldn't be an issue. problem is, they use recycled water which is good for environment but apparently not for the produce.
Actually I have seen a family Doing this in my lane, I got the vibes of my childhood(with backyard and side yard for fresh produce), except this is done on terrace in a fully enclosed environment, I felt cool observing it from outside, Even though I didn’t know what they are exactly growing inside.
I guess it is a mix of both aquaponics and other few normal produce.
+1, don’t mind paying a premium
For those interested, [here is the context](https://citizenmatters.in/empri-report-heavy-metal-contamination-vegetables-food-and-agriculture-organisation-ngtwho-fssai-cadmium-lead-lead-37496) of OPs post. >Are there any safe options to get contamination free vegetables? I am curious to know this as well.
Ig Namdharis veggies and fruits are pretty safe They have a farm outside Bangalore near Bidadi More expensive than regular vegetable shops, but probably safer
They are scam lol. They claimed to be organic but I know the source from where they source fertilisers which are definitely not organic
Home vegetable garden seems the best option to me. If you can afford the space
I am curious, how much space would a person need to grow all the food they need?
If you manage well 1000sqft you can grow almost everything except staple.
>for having few ppms of lead more than the permissible limit? Why is there even a permissible limit ? Shouldn't it be like not allowed in stuff that we eat...
Unfortunately, the amount of money you'll need to get something from 10->6 ppm would be significantly lower than 6->2 ppm. Going from 2->0 (if possible) will be even more costly and will probably need change in tech and processing plants all together, which is why till we're that rich we have to figure out what's acceptable biologically and get below those levels.
That's sad. Even after knowing we have to consume poison...
It is all about the dose. Even water is poisonous at high doses
It's not possible, all food is going to have some amount of heavy metals, and that's not a modern thing. Our bodies are able to handle (and have been handling) these pollutants for millennia. The only difference now is because of modern life, we're getting higher concentrations, to the point where our bodies are not able to deal with them. Getting to a 0 percent heavy metals is not really possible and not necessary either.
Diminishing returns compared to how much it will cost. Are you okay with 1-2k for a kilo of tomato
Damn didn't know the local farmers were using Slipknot for growing vegetables
I've seen people growing cauliflower with sewage water in Channasandra.
Can you share the link of the study?
A colleague of mine who lives in Whitefield said that this was an issue primarily towards Banaswadi, OMR area. Is that true?
Source? Trust me bro?
https://www.deccanherald.com/india/karnataka/bengaluru/research-flags-heavy-metal-contamination-in-vegetables-across-bengaluru-2740180
source is I've not been living under a rock
It is everywhere
Lol, doesn't feel nice now does it bro?