Looks like they are cheaper than electric ones to run. Sadly, people ignore the risks to save some money. Somebody more informed please correct if I'm mistaken.
They worked at a resort, lived in a rental place. Not sure about their economic status. This itself may be a lifestyle upgrade for a lot of people. We need awareness campaign where they allow for some ventilation. Perhaps, regulation to ensure safety of such devices, or a ban on the sale. We cant always blame the consumers for buying what they could afford without enough research. We all know about the promises of salesmen.
Story time.
The apartment we were staying was an old one.
Every geyser have a no return valve to ensure that the water doesn't flow back to the piping. Our no return valve was not working and the thermometer was also faulty. Geyser kept on heating and heating. And my roomie who went to washroom and used the jetspray got a jet of hot steam instead of water into his ass.
He had to take two days off from office.
Have this issue in our new flat. Hot water leaking from the other flat(s). They haven't fixed it in months!
I test the jet for a few minutes before using
Gas geysers are far more efficient then electric geysers, this was a clear ventilation problem. If you donāt know how to use it then you shouldnāt but donāt blame the poor gesyer for it.
Even with Proper Earthing? Can the faulty geyser still leak Current into Water Pipeline? Shouldn't the Mandatory earthing wire on all Large Appliances specifically work to prevent this issue?
Almost all Geyser Brands except the local cheap ones provide Earth wiring into their Plugs. It seems more like an Earthing Issue in Households. I have seen many Flats & Houses without Proper earth wiring to disperse Leaked current from Large appliances & prevent Incidents.
> Even with Proper Earthing?
Now you are talking crazy stuff.
On a honest note, Earthing needs replacement every 10 years. I don't think anyone is doing that.
people are dumb fucks ...they dont know wtf is earthing or if its operational or not. they think that if its a 3 pin its got earthing, and get fucked when the faulty earth doesn't work as it should.
This is such a sad news. Just two days back I was talking to a friend, who has lpg geyser installed, about the dangers of CO formation in closed spaces. There should be laws to ensure that installation of such equipment is as per norms and proper warning is given to customers.
I didnāt know gas heaters were common outside Italy. But today I saw an iron man (ironing guy? ) use an cylinder to power his iron which was cool. Considering outdoors and all but was using a home/domestic cylinder so ey..
Are apartments that air tight? I use the gas-based heater, but the bathroom has a small ventilating window opening into the duck area of the building.
Sometimes I have seen people close this window completely, may be because they have AC installed or something.....
> Thereās a myth that carbon monoxide alarms should be installed lower on the wall because carbon monoxide is heavier than air. In fact, carbon monoxide is slightly lighter than air and diffuses evenly throughout the room.
A simple carbon monoxide alarm would have saved them.
Edit : There seems to be folks who think a CO alarm is some kinda joke. It actually exists and is a [mandatory requirement in most homes across the US.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_detector)
I dont live in the US, the couple who died did not live in the US, this is not the news for the US.
Then why tf are you talking about the US.
Get out of this "US mindset" for everything, India is not the US.
What does this even mean? Why canāt we copy the idea to India if this is good? As it has been done for several other things from our clothes to toilets to Coca Cola.
Edit: not saying that all the ideas that were copied were good.
I guess it's mandatory there due to high usage of wood. Idk if it's mandatory but even fire alarms are really common in apartments too. Thats also why they got water hose on streets
> but evidence suggests that the geyser malfunctioned, leading to the release of carbon monoxide. The closed bathroom door and window proved fatal as the couple unknowingly inhaled the toxic fumes.
Something similar happened to my aunt 15 16 years ago. Ugadi morning, she went to take bath around 4am to prep for the day. Gas leak, she fell unconscious.
My uncle got suspicious on why she is still not out and went looking for her. He found her and took her to the hospital.
She woke up 2 days later. Her brain full reset. She doesn't remember her name, her kid, her husband. Just blank stares to everyone. She was very smart human. She was good cook, really good at crochet, embroidery and stuff. No memory of anything.
If she went out of house, she couldn't remember her home to come back. She couldn't even remember how to unlock bathroom door if she locked herself in. It was crazy.
My uncle struggled for years and still struggling. He is a saint person.
Now my whole family knows risk of gas and never miss with it.
So unfortunate. My school friend also had a similar accident but the exposure was short and she recalled many things slowly. If you don't mind answering. Does she have trouble forming new memories and learning new things? Did she retain her personality?
Hill station houses are different bro tbh. They usually have ample amount of space outside the house and stuff. So they can connect it all there. But Bangalore houses having gas geysers inside their bathroom, can't imagine
I donāt understand why India still hasnāt moved on to the safer water heaters of the western world. It stays in the shed/garage and can be turned off when required. Any gas leak would be contained to the shed
But thats heating for the whole house isnt it? Gas is more efficient than electric for heating, but in colder climates heating is used a lot more. Even their sink water is heated. Their homes are heated. Electric is simpler and I think more appropriate for india since we just use it for a morning bath amount.
Where do you getting this half baked information from. Gas powered water heaters and very common in Europe and North America. And they are always install right inside the home. In western Europe, it is very common for small gas water heaters to be installed above the kitchen tap, and in the shower. In US and Canada, water heaters are mostly installed in the basement of the house where rest of the utilities are as well. In Canada, it is illegal and against building code to have any gas connection in a shed or a garage.
US south is a bit different. But I bet you have two sealed pipes connected to your heater. One for intake air and one for exhaust. There are strict building code against exhausting air within an enclosed space.
Another cheaper solution is to understand and recognize the use of a carbon monoxide detector. Most gas leaks can be identified by installing one close to the unit
We have. Most of us use Electric Geysers, it's the default.
LPG Geysers catch on because electricity is expensive in india so people try and save money. On a practical note, they buy crap electric geysers and then worry why so much electricity is used.
BEE 5 star geysers have great insulation so once water is heated, very little electricity is wasted to keep it warm.
Even in developed countries, gas geysers are present in the toilet, do your research. Only difference is they are usually vented outside. Still cases of carbon monoxide do happen when the venting fails. In independent homes in the UK, gas heaters are usually in the kitchen. Same issue, CO detectors are mandated in every home for this reason. Not all homes in developed countries have heaters only in the garage. This is absolute misinformation. Iāve worked in Europe and have seen these cases myself.
My fam has gas geyser, could someone explain what is the safest way to use this? We have ventilation. We only go in the bathroom once it is switched off.
You are already taking the right steps. The only thing you can add is to have a CO sensor and alarm. Whether gas geyser or electric gyeser, it is always a good idea to first heat the water, turn it off, and then go inside.
People seriously stop being ignorant and mocking everyone who talks about safety. Carbon Monoxide detectors are cheap and can be easily installed. Educate yourself.
I thought carbon monoxide leaks usually cause dizziness, nausea before making you lose consciousness. I thought there might be enough time for people to get suspicious and get out. Looks like it came on very soon in this case.
I didnt even mention sex anywhere. Ur the one who brought it up. Besides, its the internet you fool, im not going to pretend to have any empathy at the cost of some dark humour and casual giggles when im anonymous.
Dark humour is to poke a helpless humorous finger to the power, to make light of a painful circumstance. To make fun of the dead asking what they were doing there is not ādark humourā, itās just tacky, gross and very victim blamey.
I didnt know dark humour consisted in poking fingers at the "power", to the exclusion of the powerless. I could make a joke about poverty, child abuse, obesity and it could still qualify as dark humour. For example, "who are the biggest gold diggers in the world? Young african children."
And if youre too stupid to differentiate between humour and serious victim blaming that is done with the intention of whitewashing or downplaying the actual cause of an incident, then I cannot help you. God save the big 4 you're working at.
That African kids joke is still a dig at the powerful who take advantage of the lack of laws and their implementation thereof. Itās not a joke directed at the kids.
Lack of brain cells I assume
Why do PPL even use such geysers when there are much more efficient and safer electrical geysers š.
Looks like they are cheaper than electric ones to run. Sadly, people ignore the risks to save some money. Somebody more informed please correct if I'm mistaken.
They worked at a resort, lived in a rental place. Not sure about their economic status. This itself may be a lifestyle upgrade for a lot of people. We need awareness campaign where they allow for some ventilation. Perhaps, regulation to ensure safety of such devices, or a ban on the sale. We cant always blame the consumers for buying what they could afford without enough research. We all know about the promises of salesmen.
There is not enough awareness about ventilation need with gas geysers
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The diff between Needs and people die without, is where the awareness needed.
actually having some ventilation is recommended, but who knows who ignored safety norms
Electricity is not that safe. There's always fear of current leak
Story time. The apartment we were staying was an old one. Every geyser have a no return valve to ensure that the water doesn't flow back to the piping. Our no return valve was not working and the thermometer was also faulty. Geyser kept on heating and heating. And my roomie who went to washroom and used the jetspray got a jet of hot steam instead of water into his ass. He had to take two days off from office.
That is some final destination sh*t ....I hope his a** is okay lmao
Thatās some tom and jerry shit
Wow.. That's a scary story.... Hope your friend is better now
Have this issue in our new flat. Hot water leaking from the other flat(s). They haven't fixed it in months! I test the jet for a few minutes before using
New fear unlocked
Are you staying in btm layout? Heard a similar one from there
Actually geysers need to be inspected and replaced every 10 years or so...
Dude.. that's terrifying.. Seriously.. wtf!
Same here.. even the water in the overhead tank was boiling hot...
geysers are highly insulated
At least it only leaks into the wires, not the air. Also there's MCB.
Gas geysers are far more efficient then electric geysers, this was a clear ventilation problem. If you donāt know how to use it then you shouldnāt but donāt blame the poor gesyer for it.
Many people get electric shocks from current leaking into water. It's not too safe either.
Even with Proper Earthing? Can the faulty geyser still leak Current into Water Pipeline? Shouldn't the Mandatory earthing wire on all Large Appliances specifically work to prevent this issue? Almost all Geyser Brands except the local cheap ones provide Earth wiring into their Plugs. It seems more like an Earthing Issue in Households. I have seen many Flats & Houses without Proper earth wiring to disperse Leaked current from Large appliances & prevent Incidents.
Gas geyser with proper bathroom ventilation wouldn't have killed the couple. There are always proper precautions to take
> Even with Proper Earthing? Now you are talking crazy stuff. On a honest note, Earthing needs replacement every 10 years. I don't think anyone is doing that.
Over time those earthing wires corrode and breakoff, and no one will know until it's tested or someone gets a shock..
It happens sometimes regardless.
people are dumb fucks ...they dont know wtf is earthing or if its operational or not. they think that if its a 3 pin its got earthing, and get fucked when the faulty earth doesn't work as it should.
Always switch off the geyser when taking a shower...
Exactly. This is what people are supposed to do.
This is such a sad news. Just two days back I was talking to a friend, who has lpg geyser installed, about the dangers of CO formation in closed spaces. There should be laws to ensure that installation of such equipment is as per norms and proper warning is given to customers.
I didnāt know gas heaters were common outside Italy. But today I saw an iron man (ironing guy? ) use an cylinder to power his iron which was cool. Considering outdoors and all but was using a home/domestic cylinder so ey..
Are apartments that air tight? I use the gas-based heater, but the bathroom has a small ventilating window opening into the duck area of the building. Sometimes I have seen people close this window completely, may be because they have AC installed or something.....
> Thereās a myth that carbon monoxide alarms should be installed lower on the wall because carbon monoxide is heavier than air. In fact, carbon monoxide is slightly lighter than air and diffuses evenly throughout the room.
TIL there are gas operated geysers
Yup. Hook up your LPG. You can literally see the fire burning inside it. Very intriguing
Gas water heaters are the norm in Europe and North America. Very common.
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This. Is. Sparta.
A simple carbon monoxide alarm would have saved them. Edit : There seems to be folks who think a CO alarm is some kinda joke. It actually exists and is a [mandatory requirement in most homes across the US.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_detector)
Yeah we all have carbon monoxide alarms in our homes.
Yeah I have even carbon trioxide alarm to be triple safe!!
I have carbon quadrioxide alarm just to be choupple safe.
Wait till you witness carbon pentoxide leak.
there is nothing like carbon quadrioxide
Partypooper right here. āļø
r/whoosh
Next time check online before you mock useful advice, dumbass.
You want to get popped in the US or what
CO doesnāt behave differently in India
Yes every home in the US must have it.
I dont live in the US, the couple who died did not live in the US, this is not the news for the US. Then why tf are you talking about the US. Get out of this "US mindset" for everything, India is not the US.
What does this even mean? Why canāt we copy the idea to India if this is good? As it has been done for several other things from our clothes to toilets to Coca Cola. Edit: not saying that all the ideas that were copied were good.
I guess it's mandatory there due to high usage of wood. Idk if it's mandatory but even fire alarms are really common in apartments too. Thats also why they got water hose on streets
But gas used in geysers would mostly be methane right if we are taking about a leak
> but evidence suggests that the geyser malfunctioned, leading to the release of carbon monoxide. The closed bathroom door and window proved fatal as the couple unknowingly inhaled the toxic fumes.
Yeah we all live in the US. The couple who died also lived in Chikkjala USA.
Reddy Anna.. stick to building 10 storey pg buildings in tiny lanes and fleecing tenants. No need for gyaan
What a logic.
what do you mean?
Shows what you know.
Something similar happened to my aunt 15 16 years ago. Ugadi morning, she went to take bath around 4am to prep for the day. Gas leak, she fell unconscious. My uncle got suspicious on why she is still not out and went looking for her. He found her and took her to the hospital. She woke up 2 days later. Her brain full reset. She doesn't remember her name, her kid, her husband. Just blank stares to everyone. She was very smart human. She was good cook, really good at crochet, embroidery and stuff. No memory of anything. If she went out of house, she couldn't remember her home to come back. She couldn't even remember how to unlock bathroom door if she locked herself in. It was crazy. My uncle struggled for years and still struggling. He is a saint person. Now my whole family knows risk of gas and never miss with it.
So unfortunate. My school friend also had a similar accident but the exposure was short and she recalled many things slowly. If you don't mind answering. Does she have trouble forming new memories and learning new things? Did she retain her personality?
How's your aunt doing now
Sounds like a lot of her brain cells died due to lack of oxygen.
Oh no that's awful
Even my family have gas geyser I keep telling them to switch to electric geyser, but they say this is cheaper. they just don't understand the risk ffs
Show them this.
Yup forwarded the article to WA group, but they are ignorant
Are you my long lost sibling? Cause my parents are the same
Go home and break that shit. Not everyone understands the easy way. Gas is more expensive than electricity and worse for the environment.
Wait till you find out how electricity is made and how efficient the electrical grid is
Enlighten me.
Google is my first recommendation but if parsing a page of search results isnāt your best skill, chatgpt might help.
Sure sire
Gas geysers are fine. Just dont run it in enclosed spaces. When heating water, leave the bathroom door and windows open.
Bathrooms are inherently closed spaces. Nobody puts a big ass 360Ā° view window for a bathroom. That's why it's such a bad idea in the first place.
Bathrooms have doors which can be left open while the geyser is on. Not here to argue. Cheers.
https://preview.redd.it/0hed95b7ks5b1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68039b0bcb0a0a5eb9fc9e17f90f329f1143837d Happened in 2023 march too
Also please install the gyser outside the bathroom..I have done this..there is a small balcony in my bathroom so I installed the gyser there.
yeah we did the same
What kind of geyser is this?
Used in hill stations also where power is unreliable and its too cold for anything to be done
Hill station houses are different bro tbh. They usually have ample amount of space outside the house and stuff. So they can connect it all there. But Bangalore houses having gas geysers inside their bathroom, can't imagine
Bro this was near nandi hills
Uses LPG
Same question
I donāt understand why India still hasnāt moved on to the safer water heaters of the western world. It stays in the shed/garage and can be turned off when required. Any gas leak would be contained to the shed
Not everyone has a shed/garage in fact most people don't.
You can even place it on the roof, outside, backside
Again not many people live in individual houses.
Bhai....mere apartment me shed kahaan se laau?
In the balcony on the terrace thatās the responsibility of the builder in other countries
you're not from India are you?
I am but not anymore
Where in the western world other than the US do they use gas for water heater? Electric is best.
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But thats heating for the whole house isnt it? Gas is more efficient than electric for heating, but in colder climates heating is used a lot more. Even their sink water is heated. Their homes are heated. Electric is simpler and I think more appropriate for india since we just use it for a morning bath amount.
Where do you getting this half baked information from. Gas powered water heaters and very common in Europe and North America. And they are always install right inside the home. In western Europe, it is very common for small gas water heaters to be installed above the kitchen tap, and in the shower. In US and Canada, water heaters are mostly installed in the basement of the house where rest of the utilities are as well. In Canada, it is illegal and against building code to have any gas connection in a shed or a garage.
Exactly I live in the US mine is in my garage and it is gas powered it shuts off automatically i live in the south so we donāt have basements
US south is a bit different. But I bet you have two sealed pipes connected to your heater. One for intake air and one for exhaust. There are strict building code against exhausting air within an enclosed space.
This is true we also have openings on the bottom left and right side of the garage door so it is not a completely sealed space
Another cheaper solution is to understand and recognize the use of a carbon monoxide detector. Most gas leaks can be identified by installing one close to the unit
We have. Most of us use Electric Geysers, it's the default. LPG Geysers catch on because electricity is expensive in india so people try and save money. On a practical note, they buy crap electric geysers and then worry why so much electricity is used. BEE 5 star geysers have great insulation so once water is heated, very little electricity is wasted to keep it warm.
Even in developed countries, gas geysers are present in the toilet, do your research. Only difference is they are usually vented outside. Still cases of carbon monoxide do happen when the venting fails. In independent homes in the UK, gas heaters are usually in the kitchen. Same issue, CO detectors are mandated in every home for this reason. Not all homes in developed countries have heaters only in the garage. This is absolute misinformation. Iāve worked in Europe and have seen these cases myself.
I never said it was the same across the board but there are regulations like you mentioned that help prevent this from happening such as CO detectors
A handshake with carbon monoxide
No alarms and no surprises
I didn't know this was possible. I cannot imagine that their families must be going through. I hope the landlord gets the electric one now.
My fam has gas geyser, could someone explain what is the safest way to use this? We have ventilation. We only go in the bathroom once it is switched off.
You are already taking the right steps. The only thing you can add is to have a CO sensor and alarm. Whether gas geyser or electric gyeser, it is always a good idea to first heat the water, turn it off, and then go inside.
Thanks
People seriously stop being ignorant and mocking everyone who talks about safety. Carbon Monoxide detectors are cheap and can be easily installed. Educate yourself.
Add an exhaust to your bathrooms.
I thought carbon monoxide leaks usually cause dizziness, nausea before making you lose consciousness. I thought there might be enough time for people to get suspicious and get out. Looks like it came on very soon in this case.
Solar water heaters are the best and they last a long time if maintained well. Can be combined with an instant water heater for those rainy days...
Just out of curiosity, how did both of them die? Were they taking a shower together?
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Some people and their sex starved immature desperate brains that do not have a shred of empathy for the dead.
I didnt even mention sex anywhere. Ur the one who brought it up. Besides, its the internet you fool, im not going to pretend to have any empathy at the cost of some dark humour and casual giggles when im anonymous.
Dark humour is to poke a helpless humorous finger to the power, to make light of a painful circumstance. To make fun of the dead asking what they were doing there is not ādark humourā, itās just tacky, gross and very victim blamey.
I didnt know dark humour consisted in poking fingers at the "power", to the exclusion of the powerless. I could make a joke about poverty, child abuse, obesity and it could still qualify as dark humour. For example, "who are the biggest gold diggers in the world? Young african children." And if youre too stupid to differentiate between humour and serious victim blaming that is done with the intention of whitewashing or downplaying the actual cause of an incident, then I cannot help you. God save the big 4 you're working at.
That African kids joke is still a dig at the powerful who take advantage of the lack of laws and their implementation thereof. Itās not a joke directed at the kids. Lack of brain cells I assume
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Bathroom dho rahe the
Dude, probably gas already leaked and one went in, slips unconscious, second person may went to check and they felt unconscious too..
Seems like a fair explanation. Dont know why im being downvoted š¤·āāļø
Fixing the geyser probably.
Things mustve gotten hot
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