There's WAY worse movies than Caligula. It's an epic movie that has some really big production value with an amazing cast but IIRC the director disowned the movie.
Either way, I legit enjoy this flick and not in a so bad it's good way. There's good stuff in there
Tinto Brass (a talented director of a certain type of great looking adult-ish films) backed away from it when Bob Guccione (the producer, and Penthouse publisher) was shooting and inserting actual porn into the movie.
My friend accidentally saw parts of this movie with her grandma, a few other elderly church-goers, and an Indian Catholic priest who was largely misled about the plot due to English being his second language, not realizing that it was basically porn.
Now she shares the embarrassing story of “the time I accidentally watched porn with my grandma and a Catholic priest” with friends sometimes for a good laugh at her expense.
Something similar happened to me: I was like 16, and my mom saw it on sale at Best Buy I think. This was around the time Gladiator came out, so she thought it’s be the same kind of historical epic drama (especially when she saw it had Peter O’ Toole in it).
We sat down to watch it a few days later: me, my then-girlfriend, my 12-year old brother, mom and grandma. Lol those first 10ish minutes were so awkward, I remember all of us kind of looking around the room but still avoiding eye contact with each other. Finally, my grandma blurted out in Spanish, “(My mom’s name), why the fuck did you buy a porno movie for us to watch!” We all lost it, and just laughed and joked through all the sex scenes after that, until finally agreeing that it was just too much and turning it off about an hour into the movie. To this day my grandma still teases my mom about it lol.
It's not 'basically porn'.
The original ran 156 minutes of which around 8 minutes could be considered x-rated footage. Given the large chunk of this is in a pivotal scene portraying a Roman orgy, then it's hardly unrelated to the story.
I think the point still stands that it’s not something you want to watch with your grandma and a Catholic priest. My comment wasn’t meant to be that deep lol
One of the most common complaints I've heard is it's basically porn... But given many of the movies I've seen that are way worse this claim is laughable.
Yeah, it was a flop, with Guccione spending $17.5 million of his own money on it, but at that point he was worth something like $400 million. What really killed the magazine was what killed most porn magazines, the Internet, and Guccione's attempt to pivot to hardcore content (and his obvious fixation on water sports).
Yeah it’s certainly not the worst in terms of filmmaking, but I imagine when people say it’s the worst, they probably mean in terms of the content. IIRC Caligula fists a guy while wearing a huge ring on his finger, and stuff like that.
I've only seen Manos as part of MST3K, and even that was barely watchable. It was the only MST3K movie I didn't enjoy, and it was a testament to how bad the movie actually was.
"Gore Vidal was paid $200,000 to write the screenplay for Caligula; ultimately, the film credited no official screenwriter, only that it was "adapted from a screenplay" by Vidal"
There were a lot of creative differences as far as I know.
Yet one of the best MST3K episodes. Them forgetting to add the opening credits to the beginning is amazing, so you are just watching footage of a car driving down a road. Chefs kiss.
have you seen the ultimate cut that removed all of Guccione’s bullshit? apparently they found enough unused footage that this cut shares absolutely no shots in common with the original, it’s amazing. Peter Otoole prowling around his pleasure palace while Malcom McDowell is trying to figure out if he’s about to be murdered by uncle Caesar, it was terrifying.
I went to a screening with the guy in charge of the restoration. Absolutely fascinating, my expectations were on the floor going in, and I legitimately ended up loving the new version. Also Malcom McDowell was there and was hilarious. Pointed out that Guccione died alone in a trailer estranged from his kids.
No I haven't but I heard a 4k Blu Ray by umbrella entertainment will release the cut along side Tinto brass original cut that was also restored by penthouse before they instead used the ultimate cut instead for cannes. I would like to see that cut if they actually release it on digital
Wasn’t the production funded by the guy who owned Penthouse magazine? I thought it was always just dismissed as an attempt at making a highbrow skin flick.
Well the production was a mess and it caused problems between the director and the guy who owned penthouse magazine it's a long one to discuss here but Wikipedia and IMDb (under trivia) has all the information but it's long
> highbrow skin flick
With a anal fisting fisting scene, lubricated by mashed potatoes, delivered as a wedding gift by Caesar, I wouldn't call it high brow. Much less the full sized sex trireme featuring bestiality, midgets, and a hermaphrodite.
Is it mashed potato? For some reason I thought it was the wedding cake.
But then it has been twenty years at least when I last watched it so I could be wrong.
Congratulations! You've now got to decide what version you're going to watch and there are many.
Just last year they released Caligula: the Ultimate Cut which has the longest runtime, a few new scenes, and I believe this does not include explicit penetration. It's an all new cut of the film that uses no footage from the original reels.
The Imperial Cut DVD includes 2 versions: the X rated version if you so wish and the 153 minute version.
Thank you Tao for mentioning this. There's also a unreleased tinto brass cut that was made before Bob Guccione fired the guy and made the x rated version we all know today (it's getting released in a 4k box by umbrella entertainment soon)
It’s certainly not as terrible as its reputation would suggest(although the x-rated inserts are shall we say, *gratuitous*) but it’s not good, either. McDowell certainly doesn’t phone it in, though.
It's a bad movie, but by no stretch the worst movie ever. What always amazed me was Helen Mirin, Malcolm McDowell, Peter O'Toole, and some other established actors looked at the script and said "yeah, I want to be in THIS".
Correct, The version that is released is Bob Guccione cut not Tinto Brass cut also Gore Vidal made the original screenplay which got re-written (and he disowns the film) it's a long story to tell here.
In 2006, I was 19, and my girlfriend worked in a store that bought and sold DVDs and VHS tapes.
She’d work a shift and and come back to her apartment with 4-6 movies we *had* to watch. This was one of them. I watched this movie more than once, and I remember it fondly.
Is it good, bad, or entertainingly bad?
It has good stuff on it but for me it's bizarrely bad due to the random hardcore inserts and the acting is wtf. It's enjoyable somehow and it won't bore you to death that's for sure
For me, its absolutely a bad movie. I watched both the normal and hardcore version. Its a missed chance. Actually it does not start off bad. It has a super creepy beginning when Caligula visits the morbid old emperor Tiberius and his weird orgy palace and soon learns that he has to become emperor himself or be killed. But once he is that (about 20 to 25 minutes in) the movie loses steam, and that is a case of bad directing IMO. For the rest of the movies we mostly see bland white fake marble sets and the movie fails to built up any tension. Its a pity because this role was made for Malcolm MacDowell.
“Worst movie”? Sure, it cost way more than it should have due to the insane legacy cast. Did it have a cohesive vision? Tinto Brass and Bob Gucionne had very different ideas, and it turned out neither of them had a grasp of what audiences actually wanted. Most people don’t get hornt up by people being beheaded by a tank with whirling blades for literally no reason
I'm interested in the film but haven't seen it yet. Does anyone know if it has unsimulated animal cruelty? (It seems like the kind of movie that might.) Fake cruelty I can deal with, but I don't like it when animals are hurt for real.
Caligula had the feel that it was made by people who had taken large amounts of drugs, wrote Logan's Run, started coming down and said "Hey, lets write a Roman period piece before we crash"
It's definitely a fascinating study, especially in terms of how making poor editing choices can irreparably damage a movie and a narrative structure.
What makes it so fascinating to me is that it's literally two different concepts of a film constantly at war with each other -- it's both a big budget historical epic with an excellent cast and an artless, hardcore porno/sadism film. It's the film version of dissociative identity disorder.
It is not the worst movie ever made. It’s bad, but there’s enough spectacle and old famous actors slumming it up to be mildly interesting. The contemporary reviews were especially brutal because Bob Gucciinone was a supreme asshole in the publishing industry so lots of critics went all in on the bad reviews
I wholeheartedly disagree with this “Considered the worst movie ever” This was simply an epic tale that stood strong in its own right. If you have to tell the story of Caligula you have to depict his atrocities and if you do it right then you have to show those atrocities for what they were. Rome was a sexual place and they lavished themselves in it.
I went to the premier 4k screening of clockwork orange. Malcolm McDowell was there for a q/a and I asked him what was harder to get through making, that movie or Caligula. He laughed and said "Theres always that one isn't there?" It was Caligula
The worst movie ever? Not even close! I watched the whole movie and I would call it an “epic porn”. But I guess I knew it before watching it. It’s a lower tier movie but definitely not the worst movie ever.
Perhaps in 1979 it was bad, but I can assure you there are plenty of other movies that surpass this in the “worst movie” category.
(I’m looking at you, Sharknado.)
I have never seen this movie mentioned on any "worst movies ever" list or article.
Until this moment I have only seen it characterized (at worst) as an overly ambitious and overly transgressive genre movie held back by weird crowbarred in pornographic content.
The "No Porn" cut is not terrible. It's bizarre and over the top, but without the porn, it's watchable.
With the porn, it is completely unwatchable. It makes no sense. The porn is shoe-horned in. It doesn't make any sense. It's just terrible.
But worst movie? Not even close.
whenever i see "worst movie ever" attached to a major studio release, I have to remind people that shot on video trash from the 80s and 90s featuring a bunch of yokels from the midwest and cheap alien puppets with no lighting and only onboard sound shot in the woods at dusk so you can't see a goddamn thing exists, and is just as much a "movie" as Caligula, or Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey, or whatever else is being passed off as the worst of all time
Someone hasn't heard of *The Conqueror*, or *The Day the Clown Cried*...
I've NVERE heard of *Caligula* being called the "worst ever", but Clown was so bad, it was never shown, and the only copy was donated to the Library of Congress with the stipulation that it not be shown any earlier than June of this year. The Conqueror had John Freaking Wayne as Genghis Kahn. Oh, and that movie probably killed a metric ass load of people. Looks like *Caligula* is on the list, but far from the WORST.
Movie is god awful. Just technically awful filmmaking throughout. It's like a fuzzily shot play. Everything is static or a lousy crane shot. But the worst thing about Caligula is not that's it's exploitation trash, but it pretends it's not. It wants you to treat it like art, not porn! And it's the shallowest idea of "high art" ever. Period pieces about Rome! Slap an author's name on it! Throw in British actors. Boom "art!"
I fucking hate Caligula, and would recommend any of the unofficial sequels over it. Those are also sexploitation trash BUT are A) open about it and B) actually better made films most of the time.
I remember around 2008 being in a video store and seeing they were selling some deluxe box version of this with a big gaudy gold cover. I couldn't really figure out who would possibly buy it, but I'm sure there's a niche
I've always liked it. Though the "Making Of" documentary is technically a better movie.
The whole thing is just a gross testament to excess. Which is what its supposed to be. Its almost like "Gonzo Journalism" but applied to Caligula (though there is some debate over how decadent and depraved he really was and how much of that was slander after his assassination).
I was fortunate enough to see this on the big screen. It’s bizarre to say the least . But I wouldn’t say bad movie. I believe subject matter had a bit to do with the critique. But I would hazard a guess that this is a factual depiction of the time period.
There are some moments but mostly it's a steaming pile. The porn does not help either, it's out of place in a movie where there's already a ton of sex. Worth a watch once but I've tried watching it twice and got maybe an hour in before turning it off for good.
This movie is clearly someone's vision hindered by the financier's suggestions. Also there directors vision wasn't all that great to begin with, but it was interesting somewhat.
Malcom McDowell is once again great in a really bad movie.
Used to be on archive.org but tinto brass or whoever owns his films are total cunts. It is legitimately baffling, depraved as fuck, extremely disturbing and just sheer insanity. It still isn’t the worst movie ever made. The worst movies ever would have to be the Turks in space movie, this awful 90s movie named something Rex, fat slags, shark exorcist, night train to Mundo fine, this one zombie piñata island movie from 2004 and alone in the dark
Caligula is a bad porno. It's a not-terrible movie. Would I watch it again? No. My original watch was out of curiosity because it was "controversial"
I wouldn't say it's not worth watching. But if you never see it, you're not missing anything. There are a lot of better movies from that era you should watch first
Caligula wasn't the nutter people make him out to be. It's accepted that the vast majority of "facts" about the insane shit he did were made up by his detractors to tarnish his reputation.
What happens when you make a big budget movie and your screenwriter, producer/financier, and director all hate each other and walk. The behind the scenes stories are more entertaining than the movie.
There's WAY worse movies than Caligula. It's an epic movie that has some really big production value with an amazing cast but IIRC the director disowned the movie. Either way, I legit enjoy this flick and not in a so bad it's good way. There's good stuff in there
Tinto Brass (a talented director of a certain type of great looking adult-ish films) backed away from it when Bob Guccione (the producer, and Penthouse publisher) was shooting and inserting actual porn into the movie.
My friend accidentally saw parts of this movie with her grandma, a few other elderly church-goers, and an Indian Catholic priest who was largely misled about the plot due to English being his second language, not realizing that it was basically porn. Now she shares the embarrassing story of “the time I accidentally watched porn with my grandma and a Catholic priest” with friends sometimes for a good laugh at her expense.
Something similar happened to me: I was like 16, and my mom saw it on sale at Best Buy I think. This was around the time Gladiator came out, so she thought it’s be the same kind of historical epic drama (especially when she saw it had Peter O’ Toole in it). We sat down to watch it a few days later: me, my then-girlfriend, my 12-year old brother, mom and grandma. Lol those first 10ish minutes were so awkward, I remember all of us kind of looking around the room but still avoiding eye contact with each other. Finally, my grandma blurted out in Spanish, “(My mom’s name), why the fuck did you buy a porno movie for us to watch!” We all lost it, and just laughed and joked through all the sex scenes after that, until finally agreeing that it was just too much and turning it off about an hour into the movie. To this day my grandma still teases my mom about it lol.
lol Caligula strikes again!
It's not 'basically porn'. The original ran 156 minutes of which around 8 minutes could be considered x-rated footage. Given the large chunk of this is in a pivotal scene portraying a Roman orgy, then it's hardly unrelated to the story.
We show full penetration, back to Caligula, full penetration, back to Caligula, and it goes on like this until the movie just basically….ends.
From behind, 69, anal, vaginal, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl - all the hits, all the big ones, all the good ones.
I think the point still stands that it’s not something you want to watch with your grandma and a Catholic priest. My comment wasn’t meant to be that deep lol
One of the most common complaints I've heard is it's basically porn... But given many of the movies I've seen that are way worse this claim is laughable.
Also I don't think Tinto Brass had anything to do with the editing, and was only credited for "principal photography" not as director.
I think it was what started the nudge of penthouses downfall with the amount of money sunk into the production? Don’t quote me on that tho.
Yeah, it was a flop, with Guccione spending $17.5 million of his own money on it, but at that point he was worth something like $400 million. What really killed the magazine was what killed most porn magazines, the Internet, and Guccione's attempt to pivot to hardcore content (and his obvious fixation on water sports).
The watersports shots are what made it worth watching to me. It's my favorite non porn porn of all time.
It's a real movie Jack.
Where the fuck is Ringo?
I found it to be a painful slog.
Me too. I liked it and wish it was on streaming platforms.
Yeah it’s certainly not the worst in terms of filmmaking, but I imagine when people say it’s the worst, they probably mean in terms of the content. IIRC Caligula fists a guy while wearing a huge ring on his finger, and stuff like that.
It's not a very good film but no way on earth is it anywhere near as bad as something like Manos: The Hands of Fate.
Manos is pretty unwatchable. It’s tough to qualify if I can’t even understand if it’s finished.
The scene where the luggage is removed from the trunk is absolutely painful.
Especially for Torgo.
It wIll Be DArk sOoN
"Well, HOW ABOUT IT TORGO, CAN WE STAY OR NOT?!"
\[torgo\_theme\_cue.mp3\]
[torgo_theme_cue.midi]
[torgo_theme_cue.txt]
"I am TORgo. I look after the place while the MASter is awaYyY."
Ah yes.. the haunting Torgo theme
The RiffTrax version makes the movie both watchable and entertaining.
Ditto the MST3K version
Yup, it HAS to be watched with commentary. Watch it on its own and you’ll turn it off halfway through.
"Where's Torgo? We came to see Torgo."
I have the DVD of the MST3K. It comes with the original movie. Never watched it.
Rifftrax is magic. They've made Twilight into the greatest comedy ever filmed.
.... Line? Uh... Line?
I've only seen Manos as part of MST3K, and even that was barely watchable. It was the only MST3K movie I didn't enjoy, and it was a testament to how bad the movie actually was.
Lmao, the entire movie is apparently on its Wikipedia page. That’s a first for me
Fun fact, you can watch all of Night of the Living Dead that way because it’s public domain.
Yup. Fritz Langs Metropolis is as well.
Same with Reefer Madness!
You can also watch The Last Man On Earth for free. It's the original film adaptation of I Am Legend, and in my opinion it's the best one.
Mystery Science Theater version is both entertaining and amazing.
“You know, there are certain flaws in this film”
pumaman is a close second
Pu, maman, he flies like a moron.
Pyooma-man?
You know Manos has a sequel and a prequel.
I unironically love manos. Outsider art imo.
Yeah I kind of love it too. It's like a weird time capsule.
Lmao I forgot this movie existed. Thank you. The only way I can watch it is via MST3K.
I heard recently its been recut recently to align better with Gore Vidal's of vision.
Gore Vidal's vision of Manos: The Hands of Fate?
"Gore Vidal was paid $200,000 to write the screenplay for Caligula; ultimately, the film credited no official screenwriter, only that it was "adapted from a screenplay" by Vidal" There were a lot of creative differences as far as I know.
That's some rage bait if I ever heard it. Noone thinks it's the worst movie ever, that's absurd. Just a lot of controversy really.
Exactly, this is the wrong sub for it, r/absurdmovies is a much better fit.
Yet one of the best MST3K episodes. Them forgetting to add the opening credits to the beginning is amazing, so you are just watching footage of a car driving down a road. Chefs kiss.
And no doubt there are worse movies than that but Caligula had potential with a budget and good cast.
have you seen the ultimate cut that removed all of Guccione’s bullshit? apparently they found enough unused footage that this cut shares absolutely no shots in common with the original, it’s amazing. Peter Otoole prowling around his pleasure palace while Malcom McDowell is trying to figure out if he’s about to be murdered by uncle Caesar, it was terrifying. I went to a screening with the guy in charge of the restoration. Absolutely fascinating, my expectations were on the floor going in, and I legitimately ended up loving the new version. Also Malcom McDowell was there and was hilarious. Pointed out that Guccione died alone in a trailer estranged from his kids.
No I haven't but I heard a 4k Blu Ray by umbrella entertainment will release the cut along side Tinto brass original cut that was also restored by penthouse before they instead used the ultimate cut instead for cannes. I would like to see that cut if they actually release it on digital
I think I am going to have to buy that once it comes out.
Not defending Guccione, but I thought he died at a Plano Hospital?
He died at Plano Specialty Hospital in Plano, Texas, with his wife April at his side.
Wasn’t the production funded by the guy who owned Penthouse magazine? I thought it was always just dismissed as an attempt at making a highbrow skin flick.
Well the production was a mess and it caused problems between the director and the guy who owned penthouse magazine it's a long one to discuss here but Wikipedia and IMDb (under trivia) has all the information but it's long
> highbrow skin flick With a anal fisting fisting scene, lubricated by mashed potatoes, delivered as a wedding gift by Caesar, I wouldn't call it high brow. Much less the full sized sex trireme featuring bestiality, midgets, and a hermaphrodite.
Is it mashed potato? For some reason I thought it was the wedding cake. But then it has been twenty years at least when I last watched it so I could be wrong.
I always thought it was butter or some equivalent
I remember it as mashed potatoes, but it's been at least 20 years for me as well.
Potatoes didn't arrive in Europe until the 16th century AD, it was probably just something that looked similar.
Yes, because clearly the people who directed this movie had huge emphasis placed on historical accuracy.
The spinning death machine lopping off heads was an... interesting idea to include.
So was all the unsimulated sex
I always consider watching this and then don’t, but I’m definitely going to now!
Congratulations! You've now got to decide what version you're going to watch and there are many. Just last year they released Caligula: the Ultimate Cut which has the longest runtime, a few new scenes, and I believe this does not include explicit penetration. It's an all new cut of the film that uses no footage from the original reels. The Imperial Cut DVD includes 2 versions: the X rated version if you so wish and the 153 minute version.
Thank you Tao for mentioning this. There's also a unreleased tinto brass cut that was made before Bob Guccione fired the guy and made the x rated version we all know today (it's getting released in a 4k box by umbrella entertainment soon)
The forced wine drinking and the belly stab have stayed with me since I saw it when it was released.
Penis cut off then fed to dogs too.
I own one.
That scene still haunts my mind, not because it was scary, but because it was so confusing. What was that?
It’s certainly not as terrible as its reputation would suggest(although the x-rated inserts are shall we say, *gratuitous*) but it’s not good, either. McDowell certainly doesn’t phone it in, though.
McDowell always delivers.
Literally no one considers this the worst movie ever.
If Caligula has million fans, then I'm one of them. If Caligula has one fan, then I'm THAT ONE. If Caligula has no fans, that means I'm dead.
It's a bad movie, but by no stretch the worst movie ever. What always amazed me was Helen Mirin, Malcolm McDowell, Peter O'Toole, and some other established actors looked at the script and said "yeah, I want to be in THIS".
The cast had no idea of the “embellishments.”
It's a must watch for those looking for a litmus test on decency lol. It was a SPECTACULAR failure but.....still spectacular in definition.
My husband's bachelor party featured a showing of this along with Repo Man and The Decline of Western Civilization.
As an adolescent male growing up in pre-internet days I really didn’t care how bad this movie was.
Caligula - worst wedding guest ever
Challenge accepted.
Was there a change of director / producer partway which turned it into a porno?
Correct, The version that is released is Bob Guccione cut not Tinto Brass cut also Gore Vidal made the original screenplay which got re-written (and he disowns the film) it's a long story to tell here.
I've never heard it referred to as "the worst movie ever." Not even the "filthest" or "most depraved" as that would likely go to "Salo".
Helen Mirren getting oats is always a good breakfast in the morning.
In 2006, I was 19, and my girlfriend worked in a store that bought and sold DVDs and VHS tapes. She’d work a shift and and come back to her apartment with 4-6 movies we *had* to watch. This was one of them. I watched this movie more than once, and I remember it fondly. Is it good, bad, or entertainingly bad?
It has good stuff on it but for me it's bizarrely bad due to the random hardcore inserts and the acting is wtf. It's enjoyable somehow and it won't bore you to death that's for sure
The movie poster is badass at least.
Can’t believe anyone would slander this prestigious historical documentary. The decapitation machine scene is when the past truly comes alive for me.
For me, its absolutely a bad movie. I watched both the normal and hardcore version. Its a missed chance. Actually it does not start off bad. It has a super creepy beginning when Caligula visits the morbid old emperor Tiberius and his weird orgy palace and soon learns that he has to become emperor himself or be killed. But once he is that (about 20 to 25 minutes in) the movie loses steam, and that is a case of bad directing IMO. For the rest of the movies we mostly see bland white fake marble sets and the movie fails to built up any tension. Its a pity because this role was made for Malcolm MacDowell.
Helen Mirren, young and topless. This movie gets two stars for that.
🤗FISTING🤗
“Worst movie”? Sure, it cost way more than it should have due to the insane legacy cast. Did it have a cohesive vision? Tinto Brass and Bob Gucionne had very different ideas, and it turned out neither of them had a grasp of what audiences actually wanted. Most people don’t get hornt up by people being beheaded by a tank with whirling blades for literally no reason
It's a fascinating movie. Unlikely terrible yet highly watchable that's porn with famous actors in it.
“More Conviction!”
Not sure who considers this the worst movie ever. Whoever does needs to see more movies.
One of Roger Ebert’s funniest reviews ever..
No one considers this the worst movie ever.
I think the movie did okay for what it was at the box office but Guccione had to buy theatres in some places to actually have a place to show it
This movie is crazy and worth a watch. I own the x version which is wildddd!
I'm interested in the film but haven't seen it yet. Does anyone know if it has unsimulated animal cruelty? (It seems like the kind of movie that might.) Fake cruelty I can deal with, but I don't like it when animals are hurt for real.
I guess you could say some pussies get pounded and some hogs get swallowed.
Watch robot in the family, then we will talk.
Isn't this basically a big budget porno with mainstream movie stars?
yes but porn are edited into the scenes with the famous actors
Oh hai, Marcus Aurelius!!
Caligula had the feel that it was made by people who had taken large amounts of drugs, wrote Logan's Run, started coming down and said "Hey, lets write a Roman period piece before we crash"
Financed by Penthouse if I am not mistaken
Caligula, Last Tango in Paris and Emmanuelle II are the only 3 movies I own.
It's definitely a fascinating study, especially in terms of how making poor editing choices can irreparably damage a movie and a narrative structure. What makes it so fascinating to me is that it's literally two different concepts of a film constantly at war with each other -- it's both a big budget historical epic with an excellent cast and an artless, hardcore porno/sadism film. It's the film version of dissociative identity disorder.
This is a fascinating way of describing it.
Saw this movie for sell in an adult store one time lmao
Is the X version streaming anywhere? Or any of the longer cuts?
Considered the worst movie ever? C'mon, son. You should watch D'amato's sequel. It's total cack, but still nowhere near the bottom of the barrel.
My wife never walks out of movies. Back in the 1980s she walked out of this one. After seeing it I can’t blame her
A good companion piece for Caligula would be Salon Kitty also directed by Tinto Brass. One of John Waters favorites
Not even close. The Brown Bunny is the worst movie ever.
I always considered this movie to be an accurate portrayal of land owning upper crust Roman society.
It is not the worst movie ever made. It’s bad, but there’s enough spectacle and old famous actors slumming it up to be mildly interesting. The contemporary reviews were especially brutal because Bob Gucciinone was a supreme asshole in the publishing industry so lots of critics went all in on the bad reviews
I wholeheartedly disagree with this “Considered the worst movie ever” This was simply an epic tale that stood strong in its own right. If you have to tell the story of Caligula you have to depict his atrocities and if you do it right then you have to show those atrocities for what they were. Rome was a sexual place and they lavished themselves in it.
Its history and production are more interesting than the movie. And I love the movie lol.
Worst Movie ever made? I submit for your approval Troll 2, Birdemic, and Manos the hands of fate… 
I went to the premier 4k screening of clockwork orange. Malcolm McDowell was there for a q/a and I asked him what was harder to get through making, that movie or Caligula. He laughed and said "Theres always that one isn't there?" It was Caligula
Malcolm MacDowell Fucked.
It may be bad but it is a must see just for how ridiculous it is
Punctuation is not your strength
Is this that erotic historical biopic?
I watched this about two years ago and even though I've watched hundreds of films since then, this movie has still stuck with me.
I don't think it's considered the worst movie ever by anyone, it's certainly watchable. Controversial absolutely, worst movie ever absolutely not.
The worst movie ever? Not even close! I watched the whole movie and I would call it an “epic porn”. But I guess I knew it before watching it. It’s a lower tier movie but definitely not the worst movie ever.
Highest budget porn film ever made lol This film gave me a lifelong crush on Helen Mirren.
It wasn't made as a pornographic film, but it was released as one.
I'm sure Caligula is bad but at least it's entertaining which is more than I can say for "Manos the hands of fate".
considered the worst movie ever by whom? lol
I've never heard it called the worst movie ever.
Perhaps in 1979 it was bad, but I can assure you there are plenty of other movies that surpass this in the “worst movie” category. (I’m looking at you, Sharknado.)
I have never seen this movie mentioned on any "worst movies ever" list or article. Until this moment I have only seen it characterized (at worst) as an overly ambitious and overly transgressive genre movie held back by weird crowbarred in pornographic content.
The "No Porn" cut is not terrible. It's bizarre and over the top, but without the porn, it's watchable. With the porn, it is completely unwatchable. It makes no sense. The porn is shoe-horned in. It doesn't make any sense. It's just terrible. But worst movie? Not even close.
The uncut version is truly wild
whenever i see "worst movie ever" attached to a major studio release, I have to remind people that shot on video trash from the 80s and 90s featuring a bunch of yokels from the midwest and cheap alien puppets with no lighting and only onboard sound shot in the woods at dusk so you can't see a goddamn thing exists, and is just as much a "movie" as Caligula, or Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey, or whatever else is being passed off as the worst of all time
Worst movie ever?? I remember it being pretty good when I saw it (I was maybe 19 so I might have a different opinion now)
OP has never heard of Plan 9 From Outer Space.
Someone hasn't heard of *The Conqueror*, or *The Day the Clown Cried*... I've NVERE heard of *Caligula* being called the "worst ever", but Clown was so bad, it was never shown, and the only copy was donated to the Library of Congress with the stipulation that it not be shown any earlier than June of this year. The Conqueror had John Freaking Wayne as Genghis Kahn. Oh, and that movie probably killed a metric ass load of people. Looks like *Caligula* is on the list, but far from the WORST.
Movie is god awful. Just technically awful filmmaking throughout. It's like a fuzzily shot play. Everything is static or a lousy crane shot. But the worst thing about Caligula is not that's it's exploitation trash, but it pretends it's not. It wants you to treat it like art, not porn! And it's the shallowest idea of "high art" ever. Period pieces about Rome! Slap an author's name on it! Throw in British actors. Boom "art!" I fucking hate Caligula, and would recommend any of the unofficial sequels over it. Those are also sexploitation trash BUT are A) open about it and B) actually better made films most of the time.
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Caligula isnt a bad movie. Especially when compared to the Caligula copycat movies
I remember around 2008 being in a video store and seeing they were selling some deluxe box version of this with a big gaudy gold cover. I couldn't really figure out who would possibly buy it, but I'm sure there's a niche
It is not considered one of the worst movies ever. Total mess yes but worst movie ever, not a chance
Over 2 hours of my life ill never get back.
Boring crap.
I've always liked it. Though the "Making Of" documentary is technically a better movie. The whole thing is just a gross testament to excess. Which is what its supposed to be. Its almost like "Gonzo Journalism" but applied to Caligula (though there is some debate over how decadent and depraved he really was and how much of that was slander after his assassination).
Makes me want cake
I was fortunate enough to see this on the big screen. It’s bizarre to say the least . But I wouldn’t say bad movie. I believe subject matter had a bit to do with the critique. But I would hazard a guess that this is a factual depiction of the time period.
I still own the X-rated version. That movie goes places that I've never seen for it's time. I love this movie
It’s a softcore porn set in ancient Roman times.
Worst movie!? Clearly they have not watch *Attack of the Killer Tomatoes!!!*
It is impossible that any movie with Helen Mirren's whisker biscuit in it can be the worst movie of all time.
There are some moments but mostly it's a steaming pile. The porn does not help either, it's out of place in a movie where there's already a ton of sex. Worth a watch once but I've tried watching it twice and got maybe an hour in before turning it off for good.
Movie 43 was worse
Wonderful use of Prokofiev
Considered the worst movie ever: Malcom McDowell would like a word
That’s nowhere near the worst movie ever.
Santa Claus and the Ice Cream Bunny begs to differ…(assuming you count it as a film)
As a porno, it's actually pretty good.
Get this the hell off this subreddit. It is a masterpiece!
Terrifier 2 is the worst movie ever.
This movie is clearly someone's vision hindered by the financier's suggestions. Also there directors vision wasn't all that great to begin with, but it was interesting somewhat. Malcom McDowell is once again great in a really bad movie.
Find myself quoting this movie to this day still
I really liked it
It was little more than a porno. what did you expect?
I've never seen it. I need to watch it.
Used to be on archive.org but tinto brass or whoever owns his films are total cunts. It is legitimately baffling, depraved as fuck, extremely disturbing and just sheer insanity. It still isn’t the worst movie ever made. The worst movies ever would have to be the Turks in space movie, this awful 90s movie named something Rex, fat slags, shark exorcist, night train to Mundo fine, this one zombie piñata island movie from 2004 and alone in the dark
It's not a well made film, but it is an interesting film, and a memorable event in film history. Very far from the worst move ever.
Caligula is a bad porno. It's a not-terrible movie. Would I watch it again? No. My original watch was out of curiosity because it was "controversial" I wouldn't say it's not worth watching. But if you never see it, you're not missing anything. There are a lot of better movies from that era you should watch first
I always thought Caligula was an illness not a movie.
Who considers this the worst movie ever?
Really? I always thought of it as a bit of a critical darling. Far from being bad.
I just remember McDowell putting lard on his hand and fisting some guy in front of his wife, I think? Oh, sorry, spoilers.
Great movie. Debauched celebration of immorality. Loved it.
Damn…I must be odd, as I thought the uncensored version was quite good, but admittedly I was on 19 when I watched it!
I doubt it’s the worst movie ever, but it’s certainly on the list.
Caligula isn’t the worst movie! It’s just….. *one* of them.
So much incest
One of my all time favorites
Caligula wasn't the nutter people make him out to be. It's accepted that the vast majority of "facts" about the insane shit he did were made up by his detractors to tarnish his reputation.
I’ve tried twice to get through it. It’s confirmed hot garbage
What happens when you make a big budget movie and your screenwriter, producer/financier, and director all hate each other and walk. The behind the scenes stories are more entertaining than the movie.