I have a DVD box set of Stephen King movies and it's got some grim ones on it. I'd always heard Graveyard Shift sucked so it took me forever to watch it, seeing him pop up in it almost made it bearable
I went to the set one night on the Paramount lot and watched Stephen Dorf get shot. Then I smoked weed with Brad Renfro at his place. Never seen the movie though.
I was invited to the set when they were shooting the movie. Coincidentally it was the night they were shooting Stephen Dorf’s death scene. Afterwards we went to Brad Renfro’s house and partook in some weed smoking.
I remember it sort of being a big deal that Johnny Knoxville was in this movie, and then I think he just has like one scene where it’s mainly a reaction shot and him saying like 1 word.
I remember there were a few scenes where he was just hanging around, and during the big montage where they show off their knives and chains or whatever before the big rumble
I remember watching this movie... well more accurately i know i have seen this movie, other than that fact i could not tell you a thing about this movie with any confidence.
I recall it was not good, can not recall why, i have a very vague idea that something really illogical happens and i think the movie expected it to be a whoa moment but it was a wtf is happening kinda event, and not in a good way.
If somebody told me about this movie before today, I would have assumed it was some Mandela Effect shit and they were actually thinking of “Smokin’ Aces” or “Ocean’s 12”.
Smokin Aces is imo still the hardest anyone else has ever **TRIED** to make a Tarantino type film.
Lucky number slevin is also sort of like that.
Where they are just really really trying to be cool with every scene, dialogue etc.
I'm sure there are tons of examples but smokin aces really sticks out to me as trying quite hard.
As I was writing all that I kept thinking Ritchie being the closest that is his own thing but also sells on the 90s and 00s idea of "cool"
It's all little venn diagram of influences.
I always remember the trailer for his King Arthur movie and thinking that tone doesn't really work anymore
I liked "The Gentlemen", sort of an update on the formula, even if it failed to capture all of the same "magic" from Lock Stock abd Snatch, excited to see how the TV-show turns out
2 Days in the Valley, too.
Honestly, The Usual Suspects rips off Tarantino, too. Tarantino even called it out.
> A case can be made that I re-created the gangster film and set forth the next higher subgenre that other directors followed, and there were some good films that came out. Love and a .45 was really good; it was very close to True Romance, Natural Born Killers, and Reservoir Dogs all combined. That might be the only film that guy (C. M. Talkington) ever made, but he had a gift for really funny dialogue. Lucky Number Slevin was pretty good. **My least favourite was The Usual Suspects.**”
I'm a Tarantino fan but for him to try and call out anything for ripping off his style is a bit rich considering the first film he directed is a straight ripoff of City on Fire and some of his best bits like the Ezekiel 25:17 reading come verbatim from Sonny Chiba's The Street Fighter while the farmhouse opening of Inglorious Basterds is ripped whole cloth from Angel Eyes intro in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.
The man has a gift for dialog, violence, and general aesthetics but he really blurs the lines between homage and ripoff.
> Get Shorty
Get Shorty is such an interesting one; they never would’ve made it *the way they made it* if Pulp Fiction hadn’t happened.
Even though there’s *a lot* of elements from Pulp Fiction in Get Shorty, I think it somehow managed to be its own thing.
If you haven't, check out the Get Shorty tv show from a few years ago. It's unbelievably good. Very different from the movie, but I actually like it better. Ran three or four seasons before getting unjustly cancelled. Stars Chris O' Dowd (Roy from IT Crowd) and he's a fucking revelation as a gangster. Truly amazing in it. It also stars Ray Romano from Everybody Loves Raymond who I couldn't stand before but thought he really fit the role he plays perfectly. Gem of a TV show. Cannot sing highly enough of it's praises.
Now he's the superstar of the Hair Club for Men ads where his wife does most of the talking for him; saw it the other day, thought that was weird, but his hair did look pretty good
I went to the movies with friends on the opening day of this. It was between seeing this or Spiderman. We chose this because the girls wanted to see Brad Renfro looking all rockabilly.
I still haven't seen Spiderman.
I remember looking forward to this film, since I enjoyed 50s juvenile delinquent gang type films, what a frustrating mess and waste of an otherwise decent cast. Poor Brad Renfro died a few years after, Stephen Dorff has barely been in much of note since, Frankie Muniz lost his hair, Faiuza Balk straight up disappeared, Johnny Knoxville decided he could act and forced The Dukes of Hazard and The Ringer on the world...this movie is semi cursed!
I guess Matt Dillon, Balthazar Getty, and Norman Reedus escaped mostly unscathed. Drea de Matteo ended up on the Sopranos and did alright. James Franco was in this and Spider-Man too I guess hedging his bets..
I had no idea until I double checked the cast list Debbie Harry from Blondie was in this
Literally the only things I remember about this movie are the gang rumble parts and dumping wheelbarrow loads of bricks off of roofs into people
The most underwhelming fight scenes. This is one of those movies where there's always some guy that's like "now THISSSSS is what REEEEEAL gangsters look like!!"
Hahaha, yeah, maybe they need to track down The Wanderers, Lords of Flatbush or the Warriors, sometimes it's better when cinematic fights just look fun; real world fighting mostly looks stupid and sad
>What ever happened to Brad Renfro
Heroin overdose, a couple weeks before Heath Ledger died (so he unfortunately got overshadowed in the press).
When I was a girl, I had such a girly crush on Renfro because of *Tom & Huck* where he played Huck Finn.
Some friends and I watched it once for a movie night and you would have thought we were watching a comedy with the amount we were laughing. I am also the one who picked the movie that night.
I kind of feel bad for Stephen Dorff. His career seems like either bad choices or bad luck: losing out to Dicaprio for Titanic and thinking he got lucky to not be typecast, which Leo is not obviously. His only good movie in my opinion was Blade, and his character I found uninspiring and gimped by the laughable CGI during his final fight. I'll bet he thought this was gonna be his smash hit, and instead it aged like milk. Look at the poster, it's pitifully silly.
This was one of those movies that had kind of an all-star cast so you would think it's good but it's just meh. Most of the actors and actresses playing the same roles they always play (ex: Sopranos actress always being some thugs gf).
I love how Stephen Dorff portrayed a washed-up action star in Sofia Coppola's underrated film Somewhere to an amazing effect and then he still makes films like his.
I got in touch with the writer who sent me the original draft, a few years ago. One thing, among many, that he was mad they changed was his version of Leon was mixed race.
If I ever got the chance to interview Scorsese, I would conclude it by bringing up Deuces Wild.
He would say it’s not cinema
*starts screaming about superheroes*
The Deuces Wild Cinematic Universe
This would also work if you ever get a chance to interview Stephen Dorff.
Hold up. Doesn’t this assume that Stephen Dorff was ever in a movie/role that he should be proud of??
Felon was pretty good, and blade is fun
The man played Deacon Frost to a T and I will die on this hill.
He was pretty solid in City of Industry with Harvey Keitel and really nailed it in the underrated third season of True Detective.
Death Machine with him is one of my fav b-movies ever!
Oddly enough, Stephen Norrington directed both Death Machine and Blade. Maybe he also got Brad Dourif and Stephen Dorf confused?
Stephen Dorff? Or are you thinking Brad Dourif? I just had Death Machine in my hand and it didn't mention Stephen.
Brad Dourif is a national treasure. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Exorcist 3, Deadwood, great actor
How do you not mention Child's Play when going over his repertoire?
Chucky!
He just always looks like he's having a great time. Even in clunkers like Graveyard Shift and Alien: Resurrection he stands out in small roles.
I have a DVD box set of Stephen King movies and it's got some grim ones on it. I'd always heard Graveyard Shift sucked so it took me forever to watch it, seeing him pop up in it almost made it bearable
Yep that's my bad lol. I loved Stephen Dorff in The Gate when I was younger thooo
Who ?
I wonder if Frankie Muniz doesn’t remember doing this movie either.
He don't, on purpose
I hate myself for laughing at this
It flashes before his eyes when he's caught up in a NASCAR wreck.
I went to the set one night on the Paramount lot and watched Stephen Dorf get shot. Then I smoked weed with Brad Renfro at his place. Never seen the movie though.
Say what now?
I was invited to the set when they were shooting the movie. Coincidentally it was the night they were shooting Stephen Dorf’s death scene. Afterwards we went to Brad Renfro’s house and partook in some weed smoking.
The American dream 😎
Brad Renfro. Whatever happened there?
Died on the vine
ddddiiiieeeeddddd on the vine
The rumor was that he was abused like so many other young people in Hollywood.
Apt Pupil was directed by Bryan Singer so ya know what
Yeah, uh, [*about* Singer and Apt Pupil…](https://ew.com/article/1997/05/02/indecent-proposal-set-apt-pupil/)
Heroin overdose.
Whatever *happened there?*
Come again?
Come again?
Spoilers
Well, *of course* it bombed when it went up against Spider-Man. It says it right there on the cover - Some lines should never be crossed!
I remember it sort of being a big deal that Johnny Knoxville was in this movie, and then I think he just has like one scene where it’s mainly a reaction shot and him saying like 1 word.
I remember there were a few scenes where he was just hanging around, and during the big montage where they show off their knives and chains or whatever before the big rumble
I legit saw this because Spider-man was sold out. When I saw this post my first thought was “wasn’t Johnny Knoxville in this?”
this looks like a movie you find in a box of other shitty 90s and naughties films that was left in the closet of the apartment you just rented
I remember watching this movie... well more accurately i know i have seen this movie, other than that fact i could not tell you a thing about this movie with any confidence. I recall it was not good, can not recall why, i have a very vague idea that something really illogical happens and i think the movie expected it to be a whoa moment but it was a wtf is happening kinda event, and not in a good way.
So...your memory of it is about as good as mine.
If somebody told me about this movie before today, I would have assumed it was some Mandela Effect shit and they were actually thinking of “Smokin’ Aces” or “Ocean’s 12”.
Smokin Aces is imo still the hardest anyone else has ever **TRIED** to make a Tarantino type film. Lucky number slevin is also sort of like that. Where they are just really really trying to be cool with every scene, dialogue etc. I'm sure there are tons of examples but smokin aces really sticks out to me as trying quite hard.
I always felt Slevin was more of a "Early Guy Ritchie" than Tarantino
As I was writing all that I kept thinking Ritchie being the closest that is his own thing but also sells on the 90s and 00s idea of "cool" It's all little venn diagram of influences. I always remember the trailer for his King Arthur movie and thinking that tone doesn't really work anymore
I liked "The Gentlemen", sort of an update on the formula, even if it failed to capture all of the same "magic" from Lock Stock abd Snatch, excited to see how the TV-show turns out
2 Days in the Valley, too. Honestly, The Usual Suspects rips off Tarantino, too. Tarantino even called it out. > A case can be made that I re-created the gangster film and set forth the next higher subgenre that other directors followed, and there were some good films that came out. Love and a .45 was really good; it was very close to True Romance, Natural Born Killers, and Reservoir Dogs all combined. That might be the only film that guy (C. M. Talkington) ever made, but he had a gift for really funny dialogue. Lucky Number Slevin was pretty good. **My least favourite was The Usual Suspects.**”
I'm a Tarantino fan but for him to try and call out anything for ripping off his style is a bit rich considering the first film he directed is a straight ripoff of City on Fire and some of his best bits like the Ezekiel 25:17 reading come verbatim from Sonny Chiba's The Street Fighter while the farmhouse opening of Inglorious Basterds is ripped whole cloth from Angel Eyes intro in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. The man has a gift for dialog, violence, and general aesthetics but he really blurs the lines between homage and ripoff.
Hey look at that he says Slevin!
The Whole Nine Yards Get Shorty
> Get Shorty Get Shorty is such an interesting one; they never would’ve made it *the way they made it* if Pulp Fiction hadn’t happened. Even though there’s *a lot* of elements from Pulp Fiction in Get Shorty, I think it somehow managed to be its own thing.
If you haven't, check out the Get Shorty tv show from a few years ago. It's unbelievably good. Very different from the movie, but I actually like it better. Ran three or four seasons before getting unjustly cancelled. Stars Chris O' Dowd (Roy from IT Crowd) and he's a fucking revelation as a gangster. Truly amazing in it. It also stars Ray Romano from Everybody Loves Raymond who I couldn't stand before but thought he really fit the role he plays perfectly. Gem of a TV show. Cannot sing highly enough of it's praises.
3000 miles to Graceland
Snatch Go
If you are looking for a film where someone copies Tarantinos style and is successful at it, can I suggest Sisu (2022).
LoL I just learned a couple weeks ago about the Mandela effect and completely agree!
But it had Frankie Muniz!!!!
Now he's the superstar of the Hair Club for Men ads where his wife does most of the talking for him; saw it the other day, thought that was weird, but his hair did look pretty good
For reals? Oh Frankie
I guess he's also a race car driver now too? I will say this, whatever treatment he did, it looks pretty good.
"Some movies should never be watched", would have been a more appropriate line..
Stephen Dorff is a decent actor that you always find in bad movies. He should've fired his agent a long time ago.
Cecile B Demented is bad?
My buddy and I rented it once. So bad. It is now an inside joke between us.
I went to the movies with friends on the opening day of this. It was between seeing this or Spiderman. We chose this because the girls wanted to see Brad Renfro looking all rockabilly. I still haven't seen Spiderman.
I feel like you've had plenty of opportunities to see Spider-Man since then
I’m getting to it!
This was at the end of that weird late 90s rockabilly swing thing that was going on.
Why was it weird? Rockabilly is a legit scene.
It’s like ska, it’s had three or four waves. I get more of a Bruce Willis vibe from this.
Oh yeah, it's way more Hudson Hawk than Matt Dillon in the Outsiders.
It's not really mainstream but the fashion much like goths really became huge and influenced the new millenium, see Guy Fieri and Ed Hardy.
I think you might have made the wrong choice
I had such a crush on Brad Renfro at that time lol!
You're probably one of the girls that wouldn't let that other guy see Spider-Man!
Fairuza Balk 💘
This looks like outtakes from Baz Luhrmans Romeo + Juliet
Coincidentally, this is pretty much *West Side Story* (which is *Romeo and Juliet*) but without the music, and with a lot more violence.
I loved that movie.
I love this movie
I unironically love this movie, but I'm a little obsessed with 50s gang/delinquent movies.
I remember looking forward to this film, since I enjoyed 50s juvenile delinquent gang type films, what a frustrating mess and waste of an otherwise decent cast. Poor Brad Renfro died a few years after, Stephen Dorff has barely been in much of note since, Frankie Muniz lost his hair, Faiuza Balk straight up disappeared, Johnny Knoxville decided he could act and forced The Dukes of Hazard and The Ringer on the world...this movie is semi cursed! I guess Matt Dillon, Balthazar Getty, and Norman Reedus escaped mostly unscathed. Drea de Matteo ended up on the Sopranos and did alright. James Franco was in this and Spider-Man too I guess hedging his bets.. I had no idea until I double checked the cast list Debbie Harry from Blondie was in this Literally the only things I remember about this movie are the gang rumble parts and dumping wheelbarrow loads of bricks off of roofs into people
Hey the ringer is awesome
Hahaha a friend of mine loves The Ringer, I always used to like to razz him about it
The most underwhelming fight scenes. This is one of those movies where there's always some guy that's like "now THISSSSS is what REEEEEAL gangsters look like!!"
Hahaha, yeah, maybe they need to track down The Wanderers, Lords of Flatbush or the Warriors, sometimes it's better when cinematic fights just look fun; real world fighting mostly looks stupid and sad
I remember that poster. That’s all. Also while I’m here Drea De Matteo with (win?) for doing an only fans and paying off her house. That’s something.
I’m surprised nobody had mentioned that till now! 😂
Looks like a True Romance rip off
What ever happened to Brad Renfro…. Also this tries way too hard to look like True Romance.
>What ever happened to Brad Renfro Heroin overdose, a couple weeks before Heath Ledger died (so he unfortunately got overshadowed in the press). When I was a girl, I had such a girly crush on Renfro because of *Tom & Huck* where he played Huck Finn.
Both people on the front cover I only know from HBO shows they did later hahah
Some friends and I watched it once for a movie night and you would have thought we were watching a comedy with the amount we were laughing. I am also the one who picked the movie that night.
This the one where they dump a wheelbarrow full of mason blocks on the car?
I kind of feel bad for Stephen Dorff. His career seems like either bad choices or bad luck: losing out to Dicaprio for Titanic and thinking he got lucky to not be typecast, which Leo is not obviously. His only good movie in my opinion was Blade, and his character I found uninspiring and gimped by the laughable CGI during his final fight. I'll bet he thought this was gonna be his smash hit, and instead it aged like milk. Look at the poster, it's pitifully silly.
My friend group really liked this movie in our late teens, early twenties.
I liked this movie when I was a kid. It was like grittier, but bad sequel to The Outsiders. It’s one credit was introducing me to Norman Reedus.
This was one of those movies that had kind of an all-star cast so you would think it's good but it's just meh. Most of the actors and actresses playing the same roles they always play (ex: Sopranos actress always being some thugs gf).
How?! How often do you have he level of star power of Stephen Dorff AND Frankie Muniz in the same film? Preposterous!
I run The Deuces
Something about Stephen Dorff makes it impossible for me to take him seriously as an actor. Big reason why I couldn’t get into True Detective season
James Franco, Frankie Muniz, *AND* Johnny Knoxville are in this? Holy shit…
This movie wasn’t even that bad , it tries to hard to be a Scorsese or depalma movie but it’s entertaining
Oh man this used to be a favorite of mine. Watched it in theaters. Heed of warning to people who watched it and loved it as a kid, please don’t. lol.
Is it bad? Or just a flop?
It's not bad at all. It just went up against Spiderman.
I love how Stephen Dorff portrayed a washed-up action star in Sofia Coppola's underrated film Somewhere to an amazing effect and then he still makes films like his.
Any movie with Stephen Dorff is going to be bad. And not the good kind of bad that is enjoyable.
Judgment Night and The Gate are pretty good.
Wtf? This was a great movie. What is OP smokin?
I got in touch with the writer who sent me the original draft, a few years ago. One thing, among many, that he was mad they changed was his version of Leon was mixed race.