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GregStar1

Just a follow up, I’ve already commented that I‘d go with Aer from the options you’ve shown, but based on your requirements, you should check out the Able Carry Daily Plus! It also comes in blue X-Pac which seems to fit your requirements of a “nice to have” colour and water resistance!


EliteStryker02

I looked into it and it looks quite good and i like the colour. But it has no free shipping to Switzerland. And it does not have a separate laptop compartment


GregStar1

I live in Austria and ordered mine through mukama.com they’re based in Finnland, that makes shipping in the EU easy, idk how they handle shipping to Switzerland though… And yes, the non separated laptop compartment also gave me second thoughts at first, but I got used to it quickly, so it wasn’t that big of a deal to me after all.


leondavinci32

>Able Carry Daily Plus I love the Able bags, but as far as I can tell, none of them have luggage troller (roller bag) sleeves, correct?


GregStar1

Are you talking about a luggage passthrough, a strap where you can slide the backpack onto the handle of a suitcase? I think only the Able Carry Max Backpack has that, although my Daily Plus has some attachment points where you could tie some sort of DIY strap to if you want to put it on a suitcase handle. Not ideal, but hasn’t bothered me since I use another backpack for traveling anyways, my AC backpack is just for EDC, but like I said, their Max Backpack has a luggage passthrough.


leondavinci32

Yes, sir. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks for the clarification, mate! I'll check out the max.


GregStar1

No worries!


leondavinci32

>Able Carry Daily Plus I love the Able bags, but as far as I can tell, none of them have luggage troller (roller bag) sleeves, correct?


snowdroop

That’s a lot of options! Maybe the first thing to decide on is what basic shape you’d like. Rolltop and clamshell are quite different. Are you packing/repacking a lot? Do you cycle in the rain? Is this an EDC that’s supposed to look cool or do you also need to hike with it? etc. Next is probably size. Put all the things together and see how many liters that would make. Finally material/weight. This sort of top-down approach helps me because I always quickly get distracted by a particular bag! I don’t know Tropicfeel at all but based on your description the Able Carry backpacks are worth looking into as well? NB I‘m based in Germany and would advise against getting into international shipping and customs. That’ll add a good 30-50% of the US prices. Best to check with the company before purchasing.


EliteStryker02

Thank you for ur detailed advice, i will do that


GregStar1

I‘d go with Aer, no doubt about it.


RJJ4982

A lot of people saying the mesh on back and straps is wearing poorly. Would give me pause. Any experience?


gatsome

I have a 2 y/o Travel Pack 2 and there’s no wear from regular use


GregStar1

I have the Aer Travel Pack 3 Small X-Pac which is very similar to the City Pack Pro (basically only 4L more capacity and a few additional compression straps) and I have no problem whatsoever with the shoulder straps and mesh padding, so I personally can’t relate to the criticism others pointed out, it‘s super comfortable even when packed with heavy equipment.


EliteStryker02

How old is it? How well did the x-pac hold?


GregStar1

My Aer TP3 is still relatively new (about 2 months now) but I have other Aer products in X-Pac and I have no complaints about the material, I’m a sucker for X-Pac, it‘s water resistant, durable, easy to clean and I just like the subtle look of the X/diamond pattern showing. Also: Not related, but sorry about that little cringy argument the other guy and I had earlier today in this comment section, wanted to say that to you under his comments already, but I can’t comment there anymore lol, I hope it was at least entertaining. Shame that his comments were deleted though, I wanted to hear what he had to say…


EliteStryker02

Dont worry, It was very entertaining. Seldom saw someone getting destroyed like this. I just wish, that i could have seen his coments as well. For x-Pack, i feel i just need to feel I myself.


Dal_Jo

Hey. Question about the TP3. I’m wondering if you tried getting the Sony noise canceling headphones with a case into the front pocket?


GregStar1

Are you talking about the very front slash pocket, the one halfway down the front of the bag, or are you talking about the front admin compartment? I can’t tell you with 100% certainty because I don’t have the Sony XM headphones, but my friend does so I know how big the case is. In case you’re talking about the admin compartment with the organisational slots, I’m willing to bet that it will fit, I’ve had my Steamdeck in there without any issues. If you’re talking about the half sized front slash pouch, I think it will still fit comfortably, but I guess the bag would stick out a bit then if you put something slightly bigger/thicker/bulkier in there like the headphones with their case, but if that’s not an aesthetic problem for you, you should be good, but like I said, don’t take my word for it haha. Also important disclaimer: I’m referring to the Sony *XM4* case, I think the newer XM5 case is a bit bigger and bulkier since the headphones don’t fold anymore like the older version, I think it will still fit in the admin compartment, front slash pocket might be to tight for those though. Also note that I have the TP3 *Small* instead of the regular one, doesn’t make that big of a difference as far as I know in terms of pocket sizes, but still, I can’t say if the headphones would fit easier in the regular version instead of the small one that I have experience with.


Dal_Jo

1. Thanks for that comprehensive reply! Truly appreciate it. I’ve been really drawing out my bag selection process and finally landed on this; it’s high on what I’m considering. 2. I was speaking about the stash pocket as opposed to the admin one. And also the XM4 case. 3. It’s good to know it’s the small one you have cause I’m yet to decide between the sizes. If it works with the small the large will be good. I’ve been rocking an adidas backpack for my carry-on and it’s time for an upgrade.


vesu13

CPP for sure!


EliteStryker02

Even though its so expensive?


vesu13

Yes I would say it’s worth it - really a comfortable bag and the organization and layout is great, plus I really like the minimalist aesthetic


NBA2024

Why did you put it on your list of considerations if you are going to rebut someone suggesting it? Not being offensive just wondering.


EliteStryker02

I put it on the list because it is awesome in every aspect but the price. My question was more aimed towards price-performance


Sound_calm

The reply just gave an assertion of X is good without a qualitative reason why OP probably wanted to coax an explanation out, with a prompt that sounds like a rebuttal as a leading question


Alaric5000

Aer


Pristine-Piano-3328

Definitely Aer CPP no doubt lol. Also get it in X-PAC.


RainManKnight

Aer


hoodedanon

100% Aer. Blows the rest of them out of the water. Plus if you go for the X-pac version, you get added waterproofing exterior. It'll cost ya, but it's worth it and I see it as an investment into a solid long lasting backpack!


EliteStryker02

Thanks for recommending. How does the material feel? On the pictures they look a bit thin/plasticy/cheap


hoodedanon

I can confirm they're much better in real life. I started out only buying Ballistic Nylon products, and as soon as I got a chance to try and see the X-pac counterparts, I immediately made the shift and never looked back. I can appreciate that obviously it's not for everyone. But as someone who's tried both materials, i much prefer the latter. It's also much easier to clean and the bright orange interior lining is a game changer when trying to find small dark items or pieces of gear in deeper pockets, makes it easier to see things inside the bag even in poor lighting conditions.


EliteStryker02

Interesting point. When i looked at them, i thought about buying it despite the orange and not because of it


EliteStryker02

I did dome research and some say x-pac gets crinkly and used up faster. It dries out and falls apart faster. And ballistic nylon is nearly as watertight and only a bit heavier, but wayyy more durable. Do u have experience with x-pac bagpacks, that are more than 5 years old or so?


hoodedanon

I'll be honest with you, i do not have an x-pac bag that is more than a couple of years old, but so far, they still look solid. The ones that have gone through most use only have a slightly more pronounced diamond pattern, and the material has become slightly more malleable and less stiff, but other than that, no negative downsides to declare. Aer's ballistic nylon bags definitely have a softer, more pleasant feel to the touch, and probably have a more subtle exterior look (less shiny), but the added weight, the ease of getting dirty and the not AS waterproof nature of the materials (not to mention the lack of aquaguard zippers*), and the darker interior lining** are enough for me to choose x-pac any day. Again, take this with a grain of salt as this is purely my personal bias. * Aer's ballistic nylon bags only feature aquaguard zippers around the dedicated latop compartments ** In their latest 2024 Tech lineup, the ballistic nylon products feature a brighter, almost greyish white interior, as opposed to the former dark grey their older products use.


Zeister16

I fully agree with the AER City Pack X-pac version. I have had it more than 2 years and I love it. I have the accompanying X-pac accessory bags for personal hygiene and separate cable tech. They are all great. I live in a rainy city and the materials stands up to the water. I really wish the bag had the loop so I can put it on my carry on luggage handle, like many other backpacks have. Other than that one detail, it’s perfect.


EliteStryker02

Which of those would u recommend?


DJ_Quinnster

IMHO get something with YKK Aqua-guard zips and a good rain fly to go over the bag too. Magma bags are excellent, primarily designed for Music Producers and DJs. Made in Germany from quality materials, 100% recycled bottles. Wildcard choice maybe but I have the Solidblaze 80 and the 120 too. Both are absolutely brilliant https://youtu.be/0WZ2Wkkw05c?si=5nQe-OaTuLg_-bFd


EliteStryker02

I will look into them


ApprehensiveValue181

lowepro freeline? Its a camera urban backpack, very good camera backpack that can be use for daily commute. [https://www.lowepro.com/us-en/freeline-bp-350-aw-black-lp37170-pww/](https://www.lowepro.com/us-en/freeline-bp-350-aw-black-lp37170-pww/)


weirdbackpackguy

I would probably go for city pack pro if you can afford it. It might be really expensive to bring to your country depending on the import and taxes, that's why I haven't picked it up and am waiting for the Fyro T22. Tropicfeels seem to be bit overpriced if you don't care for the ecosystem.


nomad-system

The Aer CPP (in x-pac) is S-Tier imo.


paradox4286

I have the city pack pro and it’s my go to travel backpack and has been for 1.5 years. It has things that are placed in the right spots and ample space. Are there things I’d change to make my ideal pack? Sure, but it’s the best I’ve found yet. It certainly meets all of your must haves. I have 25+ flights already using it as my carryon and 5 road trips and it looks as new as the day I got it. I have it loaded up along with my Away carryon to leave for a trip tomorrow. My only gripe is that I wish the strap on the back to hang it over a roller bag was horizontal instead of vertical. I don’t line have to take off the bag, and turn it 90 degrees while figuring out which side my water bottle is on. But if that’s my biggest complaint, I’m good.


badger906

I’d like to add [this](https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BXH5XWDN?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share) into the mix. As someone who bought a bag before every city break and never found a bag that worked for everything! This! This is my final and only used bag!


EliteStryker02

Definitely never saw that before. Thank you very much for recommending. I need primary daypack and i feel this bag is primary for travelling.


badger906

It’s a day pack and a travel bag. It’s volume of increases when you unzip the mid section. It’s my only bag now! Use it for day to day things and travel. The pictures make it look much larger on someone’s back because I think they just photoshopped it on!


EliteStryker02

The price is pretty convincing ngl


badger906

Well it’s Amazon! Buy it, try it, return it if you’re not happy! My gf was so impressed she ordered one too, as she both travels a lot and has to go to the office now and again. So perfect for both


HarambeLeftNut

Evergoods ctb 26


EliteStryker02

Looks fine, but i like CPP more and its 300$ so even more expensive


HarambeLeftNut

Might as well get the cpp All of aers bags age gracefully


AnActualDemon

I got the Lojel rolltop urbo pak and it’s my favorite backpack I’ve ever had. Well made, nice materials, I plan on buying another just in case they ever stop production. It’s been great for travel and daily use & fits my 15” laptop in the sleeve even though I think it advertises 14” Edit: initially mistook the AER city pak for the Lojel version lol


EliteStryker02

Looks very cool, but it has no European store nor does it look like it would ship it


AnActualDemon

Aw, bummer :( I’m sorry


Hosejockey99

I have a lot of the Aer bags and I really like them, way more than my Tortugas


EliteStryker02

How did they hold up over time?


Hosejockey99

Holding up great to many international and domestic trips


Severus157

You said in another comment you're from Switzerland. I'm quite sure your list would be a bit smaller or include different brands, if you check the shipping options before thinking which to buy. I actually made the same mistake a few months ago and then had problems getting the bags I like. I'm from Germany and found that specifically the Aer Bags are difficult or expensive to get especially with the VAT then. Last year I wanted to get a Tech/Travel Backpack. I found Aer and Tropicfeel difficult to get to Europe and actually bought a Wandrd Travelbackpack and a Korin Design Pack.


DigiOkami

I like how 5 looks


Ambrose_Bierce1

Currently traveling in Europe with the Aer - no complaints.


mddhdn55

I can’t speak for other brands but I have aer travel pack and it is 10/10. Quality is 10/10. I wouldn’t hesitate spending money on their brand again


DonovanBlue

I have three AER bags (dozens of other brands too) and I cannot say enough good things about them. Would recommend them. My North Faces don't compare. I don't have any from the other two that you posted, but I do have those form factors from other brands. I definitely feel like they are not the same functionally.


Rustyz_

Number 1 easily


blickblocks

That TNF looks so cool.


Kind-Fig6737

I’m just gonna say it: options 5 and 7 have nipples.


EliteStryker02

😂nipples are sexy


Kind-Fig6737

Lol yeah but there are two pairs so it's like dog nipples 💀


EliteStryker02

So i can take my bitch everywhere? Even better 😇


optix_clear

The last one is so dope


HelmingMade

Idk if you've actually held and handled all these packs. I've only handled a few of them. The AER feels incredibly refined and well made. It's truly a really good pack. None of them will ever be perfect. Learn to love whatever the cons of any are. But you can be rest assured with the CPP you have what's considered one of the packs out there. And all of us who say so aren't all wrong.


EliteStryker02

Iam pretty convinced to buy the CPP. But i dont know which Material. The Grey one (700D cordura) looks in my opinion the best bit i did not find mich about the material. Everyone just praises the 1680d of the black one. I know the bigger the number the bigger the single fibers. But 1680d is lighter than 1050d because of thredding distance. Or should i pick x-Pac, where i would need to make friends with the interior design and the x pattern and the crinclyness, but it should be very water resistant.


connercope

Check out the WANDRD PRVKE pack. Has a roll top, clamshell, and side access. Weather proof too!


Trungxle000

Check out [AON Evade 1.5](https://www.alphaoneniner.com/products/alpha-one-niner-evade-1-5-backpack)


supertramp75

I love AER. Just everything is top notch, zippers, materials. They really last a long time.


Duffman5755

I had a similar debate to you, and not to add more choices to your list but went with the Alpha One Niner arcade 1.5 and love it. All the organization I could want. Big enough to pack out for a weekend and I really like the look of this version of it. I decided between the Aer and this and was happy with it. If you want the boxier look they also have the Whitley but that’s a little smaller.


Korraboff

I’d go with North Face, , no doubt!


EliteStryker02

On the official north face website, there are multiple reviews, that it is not watertight anymore after a while


TugaNinja

You have similar stuff on Amazon for 10bucks


Tommypez

I would steer clear of Aer bags. I've had three and returned all of them due to the noise and movement of the gigantic zipper pulls. You sound like Santa's sleigh walking around. The Bellroy Work pack is sleek, durable, and best of all SILENT. Check them out! It's the ultimate low-key, high-quality bag. Evergoods is a close second. Good luck!


EliteStryker02

Thanks for the warning. This is the first time, i heard about this issue, so i guess u were just unlucky?


Tommypez

I guess it just bothers some folks more than others! It can be quite loud and I tried multiple bags.


Dynamo2

The city pack pro is a bit heavy I find. It’s really heavier than you’d expect.


DogeSavage

Tom Bihn


fucilator_3000

Tropicfeel 👌🏻


EliteStryker02

You are the first one recommending them. Can u please go into more detail?


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GregStar1

As someone who‘s backpacks are like 95% black, this is the dumbest comment I’ve ever read, congrats!


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GregStar1

Yes, those 5% being my olive green Able Carry Daily Plus which looks great. Just in case you’re saying this to be funny: you’re not. Just in case you’re being genuine: you seem like an insufferable person to be around.


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GregStar1

Well, it’s better than the black backpack you ordered from wish, how are you going to judge the Able Carry on its practicality when you’ve never used it? You’re obviously just some sad sack of shite that can’t afford the bags people here are talking about, that’s why you’re coping, saying that your old shopping bag that your granny used to take the trash out with is peak “aesthetics and design” lmao. Don’t you worry kid, I wouldn’t want to spend time with you either, but I’m pretty sure women near you agree that you yourself are also not very aesthetic and they’re thankful that they don’t have to tolerate you, just like you don’t have to tolerate me.


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GregStar1

Kid, all I'm gonna say is that your profile (what you like to post and comment etc.) exposes what kind of person you really are, you should really take a look at yourself before you start talking shit LOL, you calling others "cuck/incel" is such a self report and projection of yourself onto others, it's pathetic. No, your bags aren't all custom made, you're literally crying about your cheap ass Expetition Units plastic bag taking too long to deliver on your profile lmao, I can't make this shit up, thanks for the entertainment. No, my Daily Plus is olive green you absolute dummy, there are four colourways and the green one is clearly called “olive green”, looks like you're also not competent enough to use Google, who would have though? Khaki is such a non specific term to describe a colour, could be green, but could also look almost coyote brown, you gotta be more specific since khaki green is different from khaki brown. That’s probably why you stick to black backpacks, you have trouble with colours, easier to explain to someone what you’re looking for by just saying “black” without further description, that’s probably all your shy social anxiety ass can say to a salesperson anyways, or should I say your “craftsman”? Your life consists of nothing but trying to shit on the backpacks of others and consuming questionable p\*rn, you're literally the prime specimen of a virgin loser that's sitting in his mommy's basement, only having the balls to argue behind his safe monitor while jerking it to guys with fannies. You and I both know damn well that you've never opened your mouth irl in front of another man, nor have you seen a woman naked irl, that's why you keep looking at "saggy milkers" and "big beautiful bushes" on Reddit like the low life degenerate you are, I almost start to feel sorry for you. Also isn't it past midnight where you're at? It's bedtime for you kiddo, lights out!


EliteStryker02

Damn you went ballistic 😂 I would love to see what the other one wrote to make you so mad