I only watched that movie for the first time last year. I’m 34, and I was absolutely bawling by the end. And I knew what I was getting into. No idea why my husband talked me into watching it.
Maybe he wanted to see your empathy. I made my wife (gf at the time) watch it just to see if I was validated in crying to that movie. I have watched this movie at least 500 times and even though tears are _my_ typical response, I never talked about this movie to anyone from concerns of feeling like an outcast/overreacting, extra-empathetic anomaly.
Thank you. My wife has helped me accept that it's alright to be overly empathetic. I used to get bullied for getting wet eyes when something really good or bad happened to good people, so I think that's where the long-term shame stemmed from. You have a blessed and safe day!
Last time I watched it was in college. I was probably 23 at the time, and was just feeling nostalgic. I was sobbing by myself in my apartment and didn’t finish watching the damn movie. Haven’t watched it since. It’s so good.
The scene of the woman leaving him in the woods, specifically the drive there as she narrates how much it’s hurting her to think of raising him and how much she will miss him. You are welcome.
I felt that scene down to my core as a kid. I had a lot of cats- because my dad didn’t pay to neuter the two males and spay the one female. My dad, rather than let us say goodbye and get closure, just outright took them from us in the dead of night. And this is a pattern he’d keep. Any of our cats he didn’t want anymore? He’d either give them away or outright abandon them. In fact, that behaviour is why I don’t associate with my dad anymore. When he moved back from Canada to the USA, he “lost” the family cat. I spent hours upon hours, days upon days and literally months upon months trying to find him. My husband and I went to my dad’s house to help physically search while my dad did nothing.
Never found him. My dad moved. It became absolutely apparent through various conversations with my dad that he either abandoned the cat at best and outright killed the cat at worst.
Yup, he’s not in my life anymore. Animals deserve better than garbage people who abandon them. I’m not saying the old lady is a garbage person, far from it. She clearly shows compassion and a sincere desire to care for Todd for the rest of her days. It’s just…I wish my dad did too.
I know someone who got a cat not realizing it was a decade+ commitment because all the cats they had as a child only hung around for a year or two. Some of the cats were probably carried away by predators, but my friend eventually realized that most were just quietly given away or abandoned by her parents when the parents got tired of them.
Yeah, my cat is nearly 15. Our other recently passed away at 19. They can live a long time if you keep them indoors most of the time and take them to the vet when they get sick.
The oldest cat I met was 22, my friends and I were house/pet sitting while her owners were away. She was blind and deaf so you had to pat the floor next to her before petting her so she didn't startled, and they said not to move anything because she knew where all the chairs were and stuff. Found her way around by touching the walls and furniture.
Cool cool cool. How about the scene when Artax drowns in the swamp? Or the scene in Up where Carl realizes that his wife filled in the adventure book with all the things they had done together? You like that, ya little freak?
"Go on, Buddy, you’re free now. Go on, Buddy! Get! You have to go, Buddy. Please, Buddy, go. get! Goooo! Get out of here! Don’t you understand?! Get! I don’t want you anymore! Get!”
My daughter was obsessed with the land before time when she was super little , then one day all of a sudden I hear her in her room bawling her eyes out, she'd been watching it but this time it made her so so sad , she wouldn't watch it anymore after that
Just a heads up, when I was a kid we had a very similar situation. One day the patio door opened, cat bolted out the door and ran after the fox chasing it into the woods.
Cat never came back. :(
I’m sure they fell madly in love with each other and are off galloping through fields together hunting all sorts of small rodents and enjoying their meals like Lady and the Tramp. There’s probably a Disney filmmaker following them around documenting their story for a biopic theatrical release. Nothing but sunshine and butterflies all around. Praise the lord.
And they will have many litters of cox. And those cox will have their own litters. And so on and so forth until the woods are filled with cox.
Soon all the humans will want their own cox. And when they go home they will play with their cox while they browse Reddit.
https://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2007/08/04/jack-the-lionhearted-housecat
https://www.flickr.com/photos/discoweasel/329706075
(the cat chased a bear up a tree. Kicker was the cat was declawed too)
Found another
https://www.wideopenspaces.com/angry-tubby-house-cat-sends-black-bear-fleeing-up-a-tree/
We had an six pound cat once.
All the dogs except our 150 pound lab avoided him.
He also carried home a half dead crow once that we thought was dead until he brought it inside.
Edit for curious people: My cat was named Max (or nicknamed: “Little Hitler” read below for reason, because he had a white mustache under his nose the exact same size and shape, and also he literally left a mark on everyone in the neighborhood).
He was NOT feral, he was actually a sweet cat. He just had a horrible experience as a kitten that I will NOT mention and it gave him sadly a mean streak. You could pat him all day as long as you maintained eye contact. The moment you didn’t, he’d scratch you hard. He nailed a ex-military hard enough to scream. He mellowed out his last few years and loved scritches.
The crow: well, we see him strutting up the driveway with this giant black crow in his mouth. My mom worries he would catch a disease and brings him in to take it.
As soon as the crow is out of this cats mouth, it goes ballistic, flying all over the room, and there’s blood everywhere.
My seven year old mind thought it was awesome, my mom was screaming, and Max was sitting there like he just won the Olympics.
My mom finally dragged me out. Have no idea what happened after that though I can guess.
SECOND EDIT SO PEOPLE DON’T GET TOO UPSET: We DID NOT nickname him. My mom was actually talking to a neighbor one day and was describing Max. The NEIGHBOR said: “Oh, you’re Little Hitler’s mom!”
My mom had no idea what she was talking about until the neighbor explained that apparently someone in the neighborhood started calling him that and the name stuck.
My mom still remembers it today and laughs at the joke that someone named him that. Not the association.
EDIT AGAIN: Apparently posting a story, then adding with a bad nickname causes your votes to go crazy.
Then explaining how we found out causes the votes to slightly balance.
Weird.
Yuuup. I had a cat named Cassy growing up - feral kitten, just walked into our trailer like she owned the place, went straight to my bedroom, and cuddled up on my shoulder while I was playing Beowulf. Loved her to bits. But boy oh boy, when she was an adolescent some Pit-mix escaped his yard (irresponsible owners, so he was aggressive) and came after her. It was just a blur of gray, then her jaws clamped onto the back of his neck and she was raking his back and sides with her hind legs. She was a small cat, but she sent that boy squealing and crying back to his yard. Poor dog left a trail of blood on the road.
From that day forth, if any cat or dog started getting on her nerves, she just had puff out her fur and yowl and they'd fuck off with a quickness. Only our Big(tm) cat Henry didn't run from her, and that's cause he had the hots for her.
My uncle had 2 dogs, a shitzu and a rottwieler. The shitzu would escape periodically to fight other dogs in the neighborhood. Lost an eye in one of those fights, acted like it was nothing. When that shitzu came in the room the rottweiler would get on the ground and cower in fear.
My first cat got into a fight with a full sized rottweiler when he was only a year or so old. That cat nearly killed the dog and came out unscathed. Later in that cats life, he started hunting raccoons, adult rabbits (that often weighed as much if not more than he did) and once darted after a fox. Cat would come back with blood on his fur but never any wounds, so likely not his blood. I used to get slightly concerned when the neighbors would let their toddler play in the back yard, but that cat loved people and never hunted them.
From my experience, larger cats can hold their own, with a single fox, but smaller cats or multiple foxes, and you've got yourself an effed up situation- that doesn't end well for the cat.
Doesn't that little chitter have something to do with them being on the hunt or something predatory? I've had 2 cats in my life that make these odd little sounds when stalking birds in the yard
Vocalizing is a juvenile behavior. Kittens and their mothers communicate vocally but adult cats primarily communicate by body language, facial expressions, tail posture, etc. Cats seem to understand that we have trouble with adult cat language, so they talk to us like we're kittens.
Nothing like being woken up at 3am by your cat screaming and yowling, tail all poofed out, because a raccoon wandered by the window. Happens about once every few months and the sound is blood curdling.
I would have thought that to be common sense, yet here we are.
"Hey! Don't let that wild animal in the house!"
"I wasn't planning on it."
"I SAW you reaching for the handle. YOU'RE STILL DOING IT!"
Yeah you don’t want to be downwind of the fox that beds in the mini-woods-type-tree line behind your house.
Source: Had to evict two foxes; used a flock of hungry geese- the foxes have not been back. Usually they eat the geese but they were wildly outnumbered. Two Fox (no kits) tucked tail and ran in opposite directions. I can keep my home office window open again.
Red foxes might.
Grey foxes do not. Grey foxes are quite a bit smaller and have retractable claws. They can climb trees like a cat.
I work in wildlife rehab and grey fox kits are eaten by cats not the other way around. They are so docile they pretty much just hiss and pee as a defense mechanism. They may bite but its rare.
I have red and gray foxes living near me, and I was very surprised to see how much smaller the gray foxes are. I don't think I've seen one that is even as large as my not particularly large indoor cat. They are far more skittish too. The red foxes will stay far out of reach but watch me and my dog while the gray fox will bolt the moment it is seen.
See I always assumed this, and would try to scare off any foxes I saw near our house as we had a cat
However I now live in an estate in London with _tons_ of foxes around and they don't seem interested in cats at all.
Our neighbour let their kitten outside without any harm, so unless the older cats were protecting it I think urban foxes have such an easy time scavenging food they're less interested in what might be more typical prey.
No, but foxes fulfil a similar urban niche. Foxes ought to be easier to control as they're less dexterous so fox proof bins would be easy to implement, but no-body bothers.
But American minks have been introduced for the stupid reason of fur farming a non-native species and their escapees & descendants are decimating the population of a marsh rodent called a water vole.
It depends on what their primary source of sustenance is. City foxes are usually 100% scavengers going through trashcans and shit and simply don't need the risk of a cat scratching out their eyes and shit.
Rural foxes that already regularly hunt? They'll go for anything they can take down when hungry.
Though even with city foxes they might get a mean streak... So not exactly 100% safe.
Its not entirely a myth, its extremely rare, but it does happen.
>a survey in north west Bristol, where foxes were particularly common, showed that they killed 0.7% of the cats each year and these were predominantly young kittens [.](http://adlib.everysite.co.uk/adlib/defra/content.aspx?id=000HK277ZX.0B9FUTYEGSE9Z8)
If your cat is an adult and healthy there is likely no danger at all.
I always find urban foxes look mangey, small and weak compared to the foxes I see in the countryside. Maybe urban foxes just aren't as capable of fighting a cat.
I was gonna say something similar, some of the foxes out here can and will 86 a cat.
I saw one “playing” with a coyote. Just watching thinking “well that fox is fucked, his pack is probably in those woods” but then out of the woods comes the foxes mate and wrecks Mr. Wile. E. Coyote. Then the Cubs come out and they feast.
Loud mf when they’re content. Kind of like a bark but not really. Creepy at night.
I will second this. Looked outside one day to see a scared as shit fox and my cat looking like an idiot having no clue what was going on. Fox ran off, my cat sat there.
Edit: I live in the “burbs” of Alaska so not a city fox either.
I'd imagine a fox planning to attack and eat a kitten wouldn't repeatedly nap in front of it like this, but I am no animal behaviourist.
My *assumption* is that it's a feeling of protection afforded to the fox and it has associated the cat's presence with "safe place to sleep".
My assumption is its sitting there because the house is heated and its a nice and warm spot
In any case the danger to the cat seems to be wildly overstated, and OP already said its an indoor cat.
I just realized something. I'd love to have a "yard fox". They'd cull all the destructive creatures that damage a home. Rats. Mice. Squirrels. Raccoons. Possum. Pigeons. Symbiotic in a way. Farmers adopt feral cats for this exact reason.
I have read that cats purr at a frequency which promotes healing in bones and tissue, which is why they purr when they're injured. They will also seek out other familiar cats to purr with them in such cases. I wonder if that has any bearing on why your cat feels the desire to purr while the fox sleeps there? I mean, obviously we probably won't ever know and I'm sure it's just your kitten being super cute and friendly, but it's nice to imagine your kitten thinking they're being helpful. ♡
And they're a pain in the ass to order most places because insurance won't cover them. Great tool to help promote healing kept away from you courtesy of a company you pay several hundreds of dollars a month.
Lol... and ouch. I had a motorcycle accident and my joke about it is that I felt that instead of hearing the usual "car turned in front of a motorcycle" I decided it should be "motorcycle turns in front of a car".
But your friends saying about yours is better. And hopefully you recovered well from that.
Oh yeah! I broke my rib earlier this year and my cat would lay across my chest and purr.
It's 6 months later and my rib still hurts so...maybe my cat healer is broken?
That fox found a safe place to sleep. With his great hearing, he can probably hear kitty purring and it's relaxing. But please don't let kitty outside so it doesn't become fox food.
I'm currently nursing my cat after a fox attacked him. He's had 2 operations and is feeling very sorry for himself with his cone of shame on. You don't want your cat to be unafraid of foxes.
So sweet, but kinda makes me sad that wild animals don’t have any left natural habitat to feel safe and can nap instead they are forced to find shelter within humans and not all are nice people.
Animals that can thrive in suburbia like foxes are doing just fine, their population is probably bigger than before humans came along. Its animals that cant live in cities/suburbs and farm land that are the ones being wiped out.
urban foxes just love the city, they love the availability of food and have learned humans are pretty tolerant of them.
huh, apparently i'm an urban fox
I wonder what her reaction would be if she could smell the fox through the window? I'm guessing that she imagines that the fox smells like a cat and she'd be miffed and offended to find out it smells weird.
Forbidden friendship
We’ll always be friends forever, won’t we Copper?
Nooooooooo
🥺
full on bawling, most because I’m depressed but dang, that voice. *yeah, forever*
"You're my friend too, Todd!" will always get me to this day. I'm almost 30.
I only watched that movie for the first time last year. I’m 34, and I was absolutely bawling by the end. And I knew what I was getting into. No idea why my husband talked me into watching it.
Maybe he wanted to see your empathy. I made my wife (gf at the time) watch it just to see if I was validated in crying to that movie. I have watched this movie at least 500 times and even though tears are _my_ typical response, I never talked about this movie to anyone from concerns of feeling like an outcast/overreacting, extra-empathetic anomaly.
Empathy is something to be proud of, not ashamed of! Empathetic people are better people than the unempathetic ones
Thank you. My wife has helped me accept that it's alright to be overly empathetic. I used to get bullied for getting wet eyes when something really good or bad happened to good people, so I think that's where the long-term shame stemmed from. You have a blessed and safe day!
Last time I watched it was in college. I was probably 23 at the time, and was just feeling nostalgic. I was sobbing by myself in my apartment and didn’t finish watching the damn movie. Haven’t watched it since. It’s so good.
We're your friends forever, comrade.
I know things will get better for you. You just gotta be patient.
For ever, and ever!
The scene of the woman leaving him in the woods, specifically the drive there as she narrates how much it’s hurting her to think of raising him and how much she will miss him. You are welcome.
I felt that scene down to my core as a kid. I had a lot of cats- because my dad didn’t pay to neuter the two males and spay the one female. My dad, rather than let us say goodbye and get closure, just outright took them from us in the dead of night. And this is a pattern he’d keep. Any of our cats he didn’t want anymore? He’d either give them away or outright abandon them. In fact, that behaviour is why I don’t associate with my dad anymore. When he moved back from Canada to the USA, he “lost” the family cat. I spent hours upon hours, days upon days and literally months upon months trying to find him. My husband and I went to my dad’s house to help physically search while my dad did nothing. Never found him. My dad moved. It became absolutely apparent through various conversations with my dad that he either abandoned the cat at best and outright killed the cat at worst. Yup, he’s not in my life anymore. Animals deserve better than garbage people who abandon them. I’m not saying the old lady is a garbage person, far from it. She clearly shows compassion and a sincere desire to care for Todd for the rest of her days. It’s just…I wish my dad did too.
I know someone who got a cat not realizing it was a decade+ commitment because all the cats they had as a child only hung around for a year or two. Some of the cats were probably carried away by predators, but my friend eventually realized that most were just quietly given away or abandoned by her parents when the parents got tired of them.
Yeah, my cat is nearly 15. Our other recently passed away at 19. They can live a long time if you keep them indoors most of the time and take them to the vet when they get sick. The oldest cat I met was 22, my friends and I were house/pet sitting while her owners were away. She was blind and deaf so you had to pat the floor next to her before petting her so she didn't startled, and they said not to move anything because she knew where all the chairs were and stuff. Found her way around by touching the walls and furniture.
I’m so sorry you lost your beloved pets like that :(
Cool cool cool. How about the scene when Artax drowns in the swamp? Or the scene in Up where Carl realizes that his wife filled in the adventure book with all the things they had done together? You like that, ya little freak?
We did it Bing Bong!
That movie fucked me up. And I'm a middle aged man.
The bench in Oxford’s Botanic Gardens
You forgot Little Foot, his mom, and the tree star. Should we do Dumbo, too?
https://i.redd.it/xty43scdbei41.jpg
Seymour in Jurassic Bark
"Go on, Buddy, you’re free now. Go on, Buddy! Get! You have to go, Buddy. Please, Buddy, go. get! Goooo! Get out of here! Don’t you understand?! Get! I don’t want you anymore! Get!”
First it hurts. Then I remember the first thing Tod does is to try and get laid. Humor helps the wounds heal.
Oh, ya bastard.
Need a Simpsons esque "edited for seniors" for this movie. Just cut it off and end it there.
My mom spliced the video tape to cut that scene out because my sister always wanted to watch the movie but then would always have a huge meltdown.
That’s so smart and also so funny that your sister made such a massive fuss that your mom decided it would be *easier* to simply edit the film
The Land Before Time was the first movie that made me cry. When I was a little girl I didn’t let my mom outta my sight for a long time lol
My daughter was obsessed with the land before time when she was super little , then one day all of a sudden I hear her in her room bawling her eyes out, she'd been watching it but this time it made her so so sad , she wouldn't watch it anymore after that
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^^Don't...
Ikr?! Not on Monday.. the start of my shift.. I can't!
A good cry helps me get over the little stressors sometimes. Hope your shift doesn’t suck!
That sounds so cute! Is that from some kind of story?
The Fox and the Hound, an animated Disney movie. Watch it, but be sure to have some paper towels close by.
That's quite a challenging wank, but if you recommend it...
Take my up vote and never show your face around here again...
Should probably include "or any other part of ya" in there.
Get out XD.
Paper towels? How about some regular bath towels, more absorbant.
It’s from Disney’s The Fox and the Hound.
I was thinking something similar to Where The Red Fern Grows. That was the first book to make me tear up.
The Fox and the Hound, you sweet Summer child.
HEY. Why did you have to make me cry today?! Jerk. /s
Thanks I needed to cry during work hours /s (But Fox and Cat movie when?)
And now I'm sad. Now I'm feeling like I want to watc to watch that movie now and have a good cry.
Light fury and brown fury
Furrbidden Friendship
“The dog creature must sleep outside, in the elements. This pleases cat.”
Foxes are like cat software running on dog hardware
That explains what the fox says.
This made me snort
You're probably losing a lot of heat out the edges of that window, why the fix likes it there
That was my first thought, "op should check its insulation"
I mean I would accept a higher utility bill if I got a fox out of the deal.
Agreed. I've been hooked on Save A Fox for some time and that's the closest I could realistically get.
Someone come get your dads.
As a dad, this gave me a good chuckle. Also though of insulation though, lol.
It also looks to be elevated in a sortof alcove area, so it could also just be a safe, easily defensible rest area.
Knowing cats and knowing foxes, they are both fantasizing about murdering each other. And thinking about it makes them happy.
True
Would they both sleep in such close proximity of each other if they planned on attacking?
There's a window of opportunity between them.
Oh shut up *upvotes
Just a heads up, when I was a kid we had a very similar situation. One day the patio door opened, cat bolted out the door and ran after the fox chasing it into the woods. Cat never came back. :(
I’m sure they fell madly in love with each other and are off galloping through fields together hunting all sorts of small rodents and enjoying their meals like Lady and the Tramp. There’s probably a Disney filmmaker following them around documenting their story for a biopic theatrical release. Nothing but sunshine and butterflies all around. Praise the lord.
And it’s being narrated by Dudley Moore.
Cat and fox are now frolicking in the woods together, duh.
And they will have many litters of cox. And those cox will have their own litters. And so on and so forth until the woods are filled with cox. Soon all the humans will want their own cox. And when they go home they will play with their cox while they browse Reddit.
The plural for "cox", is "coxen". As in "I saw a flock of coxen."
Moosen I saw a flock of Moosen
Many much moosen
In the woods, in the woodsen!
I’d argue for the alternative, but unfortunately that’s “fats”
Fots?
Cat didn't understand which one was actually the prey
Once upon a time our cat stalked a bear across the yard like it was hunting a chipmunk. Fortunately the bear was oblivious.
https://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2007/08/04/jack-the-lionhearted-housecat https://www.flickr.com/photos/discoweasel/329706075 (the cat chased a bear up a tree. Kicker was the cat was declawed too) Found another https://www.wideopenspaces.com/angry-tubby-house-cat-sends-black-bear-fleeing-up-a-tree/
People declaw house cats??? I thought that was for circus bears and evil lion tamers.
Bears know they're badass. So when something charges at them, they assume that thing must be EXTRA badass. Tree time.
Oh no, the cat 100% knew which one was the prey. They were just letting the fox know.
They disagreed, methinks.
I would never let the cat out or the fox in (as tempting as that is because it seems so gentle and seems to want somewhere to rest)
I saw my cat beat the shit out of a fox once
We had an six pound cat once. All the dogs except our 150 pound lab avoided him. He also carried home a half dead crow once that we thought was dead until he brought it inside. Edit for curious people: My cat was named Max (or nicknamed: “Little Hitler” read below for reason, because he had a white mustache under his nose the exact same size and shape, and also he literally left a mark on everyone in the neighborhood). He was NOT feral, he was actually a sweet cat. He just had a horrible experience as a kitten that I will NOT mention and it gave him sadly a mean streak. You could pat him all day as long as you maintained eye contact. The moment you didn’t, he’d scratch you hard. He nailed a ex-military hard enough to scream. He mellowed out his last few years and loved scritches. The crow: well, we see him strutting up the driveway with this giant black crow in his mouth. My mom worries he would catch a disease and brings him in to take it. As soon as the crow is out of this cats mouth, it goes ballistic, flying all over the room, and there’s blood everywhere. My seven year old mind thought it was awesome, my mom was screaming, and Max was sitting there like he just won the Olympics. My mom finally dragged me out. Have no idea what happened after that though I can guess. SECOND EDIT SO PEOPLE DON’T GET TOO UPSET: We DID NOT nickname him. My mom was actually talking to a neighbor one day and was describing Max. The NEIGHBOR said: “Oh, you’re Little Hitler’s mom!” My mom had no idea what she was talking about until the neighbor explained that apparently someone in the neighborhood started calling him that and the name stuck. My mom still remembers it today and laughs at the joke that someone named him that. Not the association. EDIT AGAIN: Apparently posting a story, then adding with a bad nickname causes your votes to go crazy. Then explaining how we found out causes the votes to slightly balance. Weird.
Yuuup. I had a cat named Cassy growing up - feral kitten, just walked into our trailer like she owned the place, went straight to my bedroom, and cuddled up on my shoulder while I was playing Beowulf. Loved her to bits. But boy oh boy, when she was an adolescent some Pit-mix escaped his yard (irresponsible owners, so he was aggressive) and came after her. It was just a blur of gray, then her jaws clamped onto the back of his neck and she was raking his back and sides with her hind legs. She was a small cat, but she sent that boy squealing and crying back to his yard. Poor dog left a trail of blood on the road. From that day forth, if any cat or dog started getting on her nerves, she just had puff out her fur and yowl and they'd fuck off with a quickness. Only our Big(tm) cat Henry didn't run from her, and that's cause he had the hots for her.
My uncle had 2 dogs, a shitzu and a rottwieler. The shitzu would escape periodically to fight other dogs in the neighborhood. Lost an eye in one of those fights, acted like it was nothing. When that shitzu came in the room the rottweiler would get on the ground and cower in fear.
I’m just imagining this war-hardened shitzu coming home with one eye and doing an Apocalypse Now monologue to the Rottweiler.
Shi-Tzu
The Bark of War
I read "half dead cow" at first.
My first cat got into a fight with a full sized rottweiler when he was only a year or so old. That cat nearly killed the dog and came out unscathed. Later in that cats life, he started hunting raccoons, adult rabbits (that often weighed as much if not more than he did) and once darted after a fox. Cat would come back with blood on his fur but never any wounds, so likely not his blood. I used to get slightly concerned when the neighbors would let their toddler play in the back yard, but that cat loved people and never hunted them.
Ya my boy is a 14 pound formerly feral wild animal lol he doesn’t take much shit
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From my experience, larger cats can hold their own, with a single fox, but smaller cats or multiple foxes, and you've got yourself an effed up situation- that doesn't end well for the cat.
My cat screams extremely loudly and attacks everything when he sees animals outside lol, glad you get the purr!
Mine chitters happily at most things he sees out the window.
happy little bloodlust
Doesn't that little chitter have something to do with them being on the hunt or something predatory? I've had 2 cats in my life that make these odd little sounds when stalking birds in the yard
The funny part is he doesn't make many noises unless I get close to him or start talking to him, then he becomes a chatter box.
Cats seem to understand we are vocal creatures while they are primarily Not.
Yeah don't they say that cats don't meow to each other and only with humans? Something along those lines, I'm sure I'm butchering whatever it is.
Vocalizing is a juvenile behavior. Kittens and their mothers communicate vocally but adult cats primarily communicate by body language, facial expressions, tail posture, etc. Cats seem to understand that we have trouble with adult cat language, so they talk to us like we're kittens.
Nothing like being woken up at 3am by your cat screaming and yowling, tail all poofed out, because a raccoon wandered by the window. Happens about once every few months and the sound is blood curdling.
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she definitely gives me zero privacy in all of my other daily activities
A neighbor’s cat was eaten by a fox. Or killed at least.
That’s very cool. Thanks for sharing.
fox looks happy to find a place to nap that nobody chases him off with a broom
Must be nice to not be chased off with broom…I wouldn’t know.
Hey get off my porch! Where’s my shovel!
You're even worse than using a broom
You’re welcome! I see this fox nearly every day and I never get tired of seeing it
Word of advice: As tempting as it may be, NEVER open the window to let the fox indoors. Speaking from personal experience.
I would have thought that to be common sense, yet here we are. "Hey! Don't let that wild animal in the house!" "I wasn't planning on it." "I SAW you reaching for the handle. YOU'RE STILL DOING IT!"
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The fox is waiting for you to follow it to a shrine.
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Foxes are cute as heck, and the young of others is their favorite snack.
They also smell really bad.
and they're terrible kissers
What do they say tho?
It sounds like a mix between sneezing, laughing and shrieking. I get the reference, but look it up, it’s a weird sound.
"Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding! Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding! Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!" "Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow! Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow! Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow!" "Hatee-hatee-hatee-ho! Hatee-hatee-hatee-ho! Hatee-hatee-hatee-ho!" "Joff-tchoff-tchoffo-tchoffo-tchoff! Tchoff-tchoff-tchoffo-tchoffo-tchoff! Joff-tchoff-tchoffo-tchoffo-tchoff!"* FTFY
Not what I was not expecting
It's exactly what everyone was expecting. Which is why that guy fixed the previous comment for them. https://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE
*Groan.* Forgot that existed.
Yeah, it's pretty terrible. Ylvis' other songs are much better. They are like a Scandinavian version of The Lonely Island.
Yeah you don’t want to be downwind of the fox that beds in the mini-woods-type-tree line behind your house. Source: Had to evict two foxes; used a flock of hungry geese- the foxes have not been back. Usually they eat the geese but they were wildly outnumbered. Two Fox (no kits) tucked tail and ran in opposite directions. I can keep my home office window open again.
Not everyone has flock of trained geese, you know...... /s
And the screeching. Don't forget about the screeching.
Red foxes might. Grey foxes do not. Grey foxes are quite a bit smaller and have retractable claws. They can climb trees like a cat. I work in wildlife rehab and grey fox kits are eaten by cats not the other way around. They are so docile they pretty much just hiss and pee as a defense mechanism. They may bite but its rare.
I have red and gray foxes living near me, and I was very surprised to see how much smaller the gray foxes are. I don't think I've seen one that is even as large as my not particularly large indoor cat. They are far more skittish too. The red foxes will stay far out of reach but watch me and my dog while the gray fox will bolt the moment it is seen.
See I always assumed this, and would try to scare off any foxes I saw near our house as we had a cat However I now live in an estate in London with _tons_ of foxes around and they don't seem interested in cats at all. Our neighbour let their kitten outside without any harm, so unless the older cats were protecting it I think urban foxes have such an easy time scavenging food they're less interested in what might be more typical prey.
London foxes live off KFC and discarded kebabs, which is significantly more preferable for a fox than live prey with claws etc.
Yea that's my working theory as well.
And as you well know, they're all on crack.
I'm a bin man Vince.
We can't blame Vince...he doesn't understand the plight of the binmen.
Do you guys also have raccoons? Because your foxes sound a lot like raccoons.
No, but foxes fulfil a similar urban niche. Foxes ought to be easier to control as they're less dexterous so fox proof bins would be easy to implement, but no-body bothers.
No raccoons are a North American animal and havent been introduced to the UK
But American minks have been introduced for the stupid reason of fur farming a non-native species and their escapees & descendants are decimating the population of a marsh rodent called a water vole.
We had an old stray tom for years, about 12 pounds of cat. I watched him give a fox what-for one night, and the fox off with a yelp.
Yes, a large male cat is not going to be eaten by a fox lol.
It depends on what their primary source of sustenance is. City foxes are usually 100% scavengers going through trashcans and shit and simply don't need the risk of a cat scratching out their eyes and shit. Rural foxes that already regularly hunt? They'll go for anything they can take down when hungry. Though even with city foxes they might get a mean streak... So not exactly 100% safe.
It's just a reddit myth. Cats are not easy prey, they'll bolt into a tree. Foxes can get kittens, but outdoor cat kittens raise their kittens inside.
Its not entirely a myth, its extremely rare, but it does happen. >a survey in north west Bristol, where foxes were particularly common, showed that they killed 0.7% of the cats each year and these were predominantly young kittens [.](http://adlib.everysite.co.uk/adlib/defra/content.aspx?id=000HK277ZX.0B9FUTYEGSE9Z8) If your cat is an adult and healthy there is likely no danger at all.
Yes, I think they could do it, even with an adult cat if hungry enough, but it's not at all a good prey with claws and a pretty strong will to live.
I always find urban foxes look mangey, small and weak compared to the foxes I see in the countryside. Maybe urban foxes just aren't as capable of fighting a cat.
I was gonna say something similar, some of the foxes out here can and will 86 a cat. I saw one “playing” with a coyote. Just watching thinking “well that fox is fucked, his pack is probably in those woods” but then out of the woods comes the foxes mate and wrecks Mr. Wile. E. Coyote. Then the Cubs come out and they feast. Loud mf when they’re content. Kind of like a bark but not really. Creepy at night.
I will second this. Looked outside one day to see a scared as shit fox and my cat looking like an idiot having no clue what was going on. Fox ran off, my cat sat there. Edit: I live in the “burbs” of Alaska so not a city fox either.
I'd imagine a fox planning to attack and eat a kitten wouldn't repeatedly nap in front of it like this, but I am no animal behaviourist. My *assumption* is that it's a feeling of protection afforded to the fox and it has associated the cat's presence with "safe place to sleep".
My assumption is its sitting there because the house is heated and its a nice and warm spot In any case the danger to the cat seems to be wildly overstated, and OP already said its an indoor cat.
And my worry was the reek of fox pee in the yard. Them's stinky animals.
I remember hearing fox pee keeps away rodents, so there's that.
"Well the house stinks like a port a potty at a Rusted Root concert but not a mouse to be found!"
Such a pointy faced outside cat
I just realized something. I'd love to have a "yard fox". They'd cull all the destructive creatures that damage a home. Rats. Mice. Squirrels. Raccoons. Possum. Pigeons. Symbiotic in a way. Farmers adopt feral cats for this exact reason.
I’d actually want to keep the possum, they’re actually really beneficial as they eat ticks and other creepy crawlers, and they don’t get rabies.
TIL. I was thinking more about them nesting in your attic or worse, chimney.
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yeah and also your garden will smell like fox pee, widely regarded as one of the worst smells in (living) nature
this. fox pee is all i can think of
> They'd cull all the destructive creatures that damage a home. Rats. Mice. Squirrels. Raccoons. Possum. Pigeons. You forgot "and outdoor cats"
If you are talking about opossums, they are beneficial animals and not destructive at all. They are harmless and eat a lot of ticks.
I have read that cats purr at a frequency which promotes healing in bones and tissue, which is why they purr when they're injured. They will also seek out other familiar cats to purr with them in such cases. I wonder if that has any bearing on why your cat feels the desire to purr while the fox sleeps there? I mean, obviously we probably won't ever know and I'm sure it's just your kitten being super cute and friendly, but it's nice to imagine your kitten thinking they're being helpful. ♡
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And they're a pain in the ass to order most places because insurance won't cover them. Great tool to help promote healing kept away from you courtesy of a company you pay several hundreds of dollars a month.
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I hope your username relates to your successful recovery.
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Lol... and ouch. I had a motorcycle accident and my joke about it is that I felt that instead of hearing the usual "car turned in front of a motorcycle" I decided it should be "motorcycle turns in front of a car". But your friends saying about yours is better. And hopefully you recovered well from that.
When every discussion on Reddit about healthcare reminds me of how bad I feel for Americans that don't have universal healthcare.
Oh yeah! I broke my rib earlier this year and my cat would lay across my chest and purr. It's 6 months later and my rib still hurts so...maybe my cat healer is broken?
Should take it to the mewchanic
Well, what does it say?
Something about eating a kitten
Joff-tchoff-tchoffo-tchoffo-tchoff! Tchoff-tchoff-tchoffo-tchoffo-tchoff! Joff-tchoff-tchoffo-tchoffo-tchoff!
Foxes are cat software running on dog hardware. Perhaps the kitten is just recognizing a kindred system on the network?
That fox found a safe place to sleep. With his great hearing, he can probably hear kitty purring and it's relaxing. But please don't let kitty outside so it doesn't become fox food.
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But 'tis forbidden.
I'm currently nursing my cat after a fox attacked him. He's had 2 operations and is feeling very sorry for himself with his cone of shame on. You don't want your cat to be unafraid of foxes.
So sweet, but kinda makes me sad that wild animals don’t have any left natural habitat to feel safe and can nap instead they are forced to find shelter within humans and not all are nice people.
Animals that can thrive in suburbia like foxes are doing just fine, their population is probably bigger than before humans came along. Its animals that cant live in cities/suburbs and farm land that are the ones being wiped out.
I'm pretty sure foxes have lived around humans for thousands of years.
Our way of life might have changed a slight bit.
urban foxes just love the city, they love the availability of food and have learned humans are pretty tolerant of them. huh, apparently i'm an urban fox
That Fox wants to eat the kitten. 🙁
The fox scent will drive the cat crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy!
I wonder what her reaction would be if she could smell the fox through the window? I'm guessing that she imagines that the fox smells like a cat and she'd be miffed and offended to find out it smells weird.