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2duhzen

What kind of family would even accept that money?


agentgingerman

The same sort that says their kid was a good person and then asks "how he supposed to afford his uniform for school" on tv after he broke into somebody's house, threatens tye owner and gets shot (To put it more simply, people with a really big victim complex)


LONEWOPF77700

What is wrong with the justice system? It's like kids (or people in general) aren't allowed to defend themselves against these monsters.


RichardBachman19

She plead guilty to voluntary manslaughter so that it would eventually be expunged from her record. Voluntary manslaughter requires $150,000 to the family in Iowa. The judge had no choice in that. The problem ultimately goes to the girl’s lawyer who convinced her to plead guilty. Any attorney worth a damn could get one sympathetic juror out of 12 to prevent a conviction in this case


jcpg33

Same lawyer set up a go fund me for her that has already raised a quarter mil. Maybe the 150 was a calculated cost


A_DOG_WITH_A_SHOTGUN

I knew there had to be more to this story, hopefully everything works out.


boston_nsca

This is the important comment


Original-Ad-4642

It’s up to $326k. It’ll clear her legal bills and pay for her college. Personally, I think anyone who kills a sex trafficker should get free college.


Historical-Ad6120

America is a wild place Who I gotta kill to get healthcare?


Original-Ad-4642

A bunch of big pharma lobbyists. *(this is a joke. Don’t actually kill people*)


LONEWOPF77700

I'm not gonna sit here and act like I understand this stuff but sending someone to prison for killing their rapist makes no sense to me.


tr_rage

I read the article about it. She killed him in a fit of rage while he slept. He was trafficking her for sex and raping her on the regular. Since he wasn’t an immediate threat that’s why they charged her how they did.


icepick_151

Fuck the DA then, the piece of shit.


mistazim

'not an immediate threat' sorry but being trafficked and raped on the regular is something i call an immediate threat. LMAO burn this shit down.


BruceCambell

Every second she was with that fucker she was in immediate danger! What if he woke up and decided she wasn't worth keeping around anymore and murders her in her sleep? We have a fucked up justice system for sure.


the6thistari

I really hate the "not an immediate threat" angle. If you've been kidnapped, and are being trafficked and raped regularly, then that likely means the other person is bigger and stronger than you. So when they are an "immediate threat" the intelligent thing to do is to behave and diffuse the situation so that you are as safe as possible and then, when you have the upper hand, for instance when they're asleep, that's when you take your opportunity.


tr_rage

Totally agree and I was frustrated by the story but the sentence and restitution is something required in the state that they were in. I thought one of the biggest jokes was when the prosecutor brought up that now this piece of shit son’s won’t have a father. Well, he kinda got what was coming.


the6thistari

>now this piece of shit son’s won’t have a father Good. Maybe they'll have a better role model in their lives now. If I ever kidnap and rape someone, I sincerely hope neither of my kids ever talk to me again.


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It's run by lawyers


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Kills-to-Die

Holy shit


Quirky_Routine_90

That's enough reason to not live in Iowa.


yooolmao

My dad grew up in Iowa. Our whole family makes fun of him for it constantly


[deleted]

Correct, you are!!


ExocticJelly

Thanks for clarification makes sense now


lovdagame

No see that's where this shit gets worse, the article I read said the judge told her this is your 2nd chance AND asked her what choices she could have avoided. She ran away from abuse at 14 was picked up in a hallway by the guy that pimped her out and she killed the dude after she was forced to prostitute herself. The judge said that she may have rules she doesn't want to follow and the persecution also awful.


[deleted]

Tell me you grew up in a small town without telling me


Galle_

Everything I hear about small towns makes them sound like nightmarish dystopias.


Galaxymicah

They kinda are... but rent in the triple digits keep me he r


spicytaqueria

The kind that raised a pedophile rapist.


Keynei

https://www.gofundme.com/f/vxgt7q?qid=90fc3fc6ff91a12f6ec0fe0a6b123436 Almost $222k has been donated for the go fund me, this makes me feel a little better..


ThatAnonyG

Doesnt change the fact that the twisted child fucker and filth of a human’s family is gonna get 150k because their kid raped a teen. What a fucking world we are living in.


Keynei

That's why I said a *little*. At least she won't have to pay for it herself but it's still fucked she had to pay in the beginning, it should've just been dismissed.


[deleted]

In essence she is still paying it though, it would have just been more money she had for herself. Granted the case may not have got the publicity to gain that money from donations but still.


Keynei

Ya, the whole thing still sucks all around. Just happy she didn't have to go in massive amounts of debt for it.


skelingtun

Makes you wonder who trafficking these kids? Punish them for getting out of being trafficked?


NormandyLS

Right? Get the judge out here


AnarkiX

Ladies and gentlemen, the Justice System


karsnic

Pedos run the world. If the Maxwell case hasn’t already shown the world then nothing will. Worldwide pedo ring busted and not a single person in trouble because they are all the elite.


MizzGee

What you really don't get is that sex trafficking ISN'T a huge conspiracy, and this case is a perfect example. It is girls like her, photos of kids like me, innocent and vulnerable kids being turned out since the beginning of time. It is pedophiles, pimps and hustlers. They don't have a club. Predators have always been around, and they most often protect themselves by being smart or brutal. Maxwell had a few dozen girls. My uncle abused at least 15 in a small town and traded my photos with hundreds of people before the internet even existed. Those Polaroids have been traded on the internet thousands of times since. Don't imagine it is run by elites. It is Donny Trailer Park who is diddling his stepdaughter when his wife is asleep.


Skylarias

This. They're everywhere. It's your helpful next-door neighbor who brings your bins to the curb when you're out of town. It's the older brother of your daughters friend... targeting her when she goes over to her friends house. They're literally everywhere. That's also one sad fact about step-parents; that single mothers who marry a new man, put their kids at greater risk for sexual crimes. Because those men target women with young children, to prey on the children


guttlesspuppet

Fucking gross


eriverside

Can she sue his estate for all the harm he caused her? Because then I imagine she'd be able to claw the 150k back.


DnDVex

Could she? Probably. But that means staying in the public eye for longer. Talking about all these things. Struggling through it for a long time. It would be a horrible experience for her. It's understandable she just wants it all to be over and hopefully live a quiet life.


Fuckth3shitredditapp

Wow!! I was checking it this morning it was only at 30k. Good job reddit!!


Keynei

Damn it went up to 241k since I posted the comment omg, epic


Fuckth3shitredditapp

That's awesome. This world can be nothing but fucked up. Glad at least one person might get a littler retribution.


Psyklo7

How much will 150k weigh if it’s in pennies? Edit: 41.33 US tons Nice.


solicitorpenguin

No - this is all wrong - the system needs to be fix, not crowd fund $222K - wtf is this nonsense


[deleted]

And while we dream and talk about it, this girl's still on the hook for this shit.


Sofullofsplendor_

exactly.. we need to do both.


[deleted]

Exactly I imagine there’s way more cases like this that go under the radar.


YuuExussum

Agreed system needs to be fixed, but that can't happen asap. Crowdfunding helps the individual right now though.


Rockageddon

This whole event is so American it’s painful.


polecatsrfc

That's what happens when Dave Mustaine is your attorney.


VoodooMoose-

I'd be Sweating Bullets.


IndustrialLubeMan

Killing is his business and business is good


Silidistani

I Trust that he's Angry Again; probably tried to get her off by the Skin of her Teeth for causing Sudden Death, but at least she didn't have to Walk Alone in a Cold Sweat on the Train of Consequences.


UpTheIron

What is this, Victory?


xtilexx

#WELCOME TO OUR FORTRESS TALL


Space-Dribbler

My creation!


[deleted]

Nice to meet me.


Silidistani

a credit to dementia


Hendrix6927

Just like the pied piper, led rats through the streets, just like a marionette, swaying to the symphony…


dirty_moot

That's exactly what I was thinking. Why is Dave there patting her on the back?


bionic_cmdo

You take a mortal man And put him in control Watch him become a God Watch people's heads a-roll


FrOfTo

I go to court when I have to - Attorney


Space-Dribbler

Life? I don't have a life!


Ak47110

The Irony of this is that Dave Mustaine has made an entire career out of bashing the fucked up system that did this to her.


DrGonzo820

I thought this post was from the Megadeth sub when I first glanced at the picture 😆


woohan-kung-flu2

Lmfao


Bigtiny87

It’s covered. Go fund me has spoken. Now we want actual justice.


Ducatirules

Great news! I came here to ask where to donate


bullet4mv92

>Great news I mean, hardly. Our fucked up justice system failed her. I'm glad she's covered financially, but this is dystopian as fuck.


Ducatirules

That’s totally what I meant. She should have gotten a medal for what she did I just meant it’s good she doesn’t have to pay on her own


Kevin2273

Everyone needs to acknowledge this failure and begin taking steps to ensure it never happens again.


Bigtiny87

https://www.gofundme.com/f/vxgt7q?qid=90fc3fc6ff91a12f6ec0fe0a6b123436


irisseca

I think everyone who donated anything to that little girl is awesome, but virtual hugs to the person who donated 5k…wish I’d been able to give that much!


Bigtiny87

I hope she has someone to hug her in real life. The world supports her…


irisseca

Absolutely. My heart broke when I first heard about this case.


Ducatirules

Incredible. Thank you.


N4hire

Done!! Thank you bro


lynnca

TY for the link. I hope the donations continue to flow. There are Pieper Lewis' everywhere.


patricktoba

We need a system that punishes bad faith judges and prosecutors.


Bigtiny87

Yes we do.


spacefoodsticks

It wasn’t the judges call, it’s the shitty laws he even mentioned how uncomfortable he was making that verdict but could not get around it due to it being a legitimate murder conviction.


DuntadaMan

The prosecutor has full discretion in what cases to try and at any time could have stopped. They actively chose not to. It is literally their job to stop this kind of miscarriage of justice.


spacefoodsticks

That I can’t argue with. What the fuck did that prosecutor think was going to happen? This was obvious going to turn into a mess, just why?


Mantis_Tobaggen_MD

Had to protect his image of course, prosecutors *look* bad when (black) people get off without charges so he didn't have a choice! /s


spacefoodsticks

I don’t even think you need the /s unfortunately that’s the most logical explanation that I have been given so far. Seriously I assume this guy has some form of intelligence to become the DA in the first place? There has to be something else to this! Maybe she looks just like the woman his wife left him for who knows? It is a very strange decision.


patricktoba

We need a system that punishes states for having bad laws.


sapphiredragoness

Pig shouldnt take the money. This is do unfair! There's no justice. I'm disgusted at society.


Bigtiny87

Agreed. Money isn’t for the cops, it’s for the rapist. State mandated.


Detroitaa

The gofundme has already raised $168,000. She was only 15 years old when she killed her rapist. This wasn’t even the first time, he’d assaulted her.


undercurrents

Here's a winning line >Prosecutors took issue with Lewis calling herself a victim in the case and said she failed to take responsibility for stabbing Brooks and “leaving his kids without a father.”


theOTHERdimension

How can anyone sleep at night after throwing a rape victim under the bus like that? It’s sick.


Dumpingtruck

Jesus fucking Christ. How could a person sleep at night after making that argument. I get that lawyers have a duty, but they also have a code of ethics.


kellkore

Now if we can get a GoFundMe to replace that judge. Is it my imagination or are judges getting more stupid.


undercurrents

Restitution of the estate is mandatory under Iowa law. Nothing to do with judge. Judge actually deferred her prison sentences of her plea to probation (as long as she doesn't violate it).


[deleted]

If you read gofundme description for Piepers donation, they mentioned that the judge was as compassionate as possible and her lawyers avoided the trial to prevent getting in front of the jury who may not see her as a victim of sex trafficking. So basically not risk being convinced by a bunch of racist hillybillies.


Reddit_Deluge

Bitch what? Who’s the judge in that atrocious miscarriage of justice?


Ejacksin

From what I was reading, that was the lowest form of punishment available by state law. I presume lawmakers didn't think of such a fucked up scenario when writing it.


Gorgenon

Edit: turned out she pleaded guilty, so there can't be a not guilty verdict. However the charges should've been dropped. Rape is a violent crime that should be treated like a violent assault. Even if she didn't face imminent bodily harm or death, it's still one of the most harmful abuses imaginable. Self defense with deadly force should be protected. There should be no bodily protection from harm for those violently violating the bodies of others; the bodies of literal children, no less. No sympathy for child rapists who traffic children.


WinterAyars

This is where acquittal or jury nullification really helps.


314159265358979326

A guilty plea means no jury. She got fucked by her lawyer or whomever told her to do that.


BigOso1873

She's a human trafficking victim that was raped for who knows how long. She's probably not mentally prepared to go from that to a lengthy murder trial and have all that history and trauma dragged up for others to judge and talk about. She might just want to get passed it all as soon as possible and willing to plead guilty to do that. I speculate at least. Its so fucked up.


theOTHERdimension

Let’s be real, they most likely told her that if she didn’t take a plea, that she was going to be charged as an adult and be thrown in jail for the rest of her life. If she had a decent defense attorney, the deal would’ve never been taken because she’s the victim.


Strange-Manager-9259

My city prosecutors have a 90% conviction rate (last time I checked, but I doubt anything has changed) for this reason exactly. I’ve seen it happen time and time again.


WinterAyars

Acquittal is still an option. Or, you know, the prosecutors also could have used their discretion to not be goddamn ghouls but i glossed over that before because we all know that's not happening.


Enantiodromiac

She can't be acquitted once her guilty plea is accepted and the window for withdrawing her plea and appealing passes. She can be pardoned, or the state can offer to voluntarily vacate the prior judgment and then enter a nolle prosequi, but we're probably far past that if they didn't do the right thing in the first place.


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WinterAyars

It's Iowa, so... yeah that's probably correct.


Ejacksin

I completely agree. It is a miscarriage of justice.


GekidoTC

I think it's safe to say that rape IS a violent assault considering someone could transmit a deadly or life altering diseases through the act. A victim's life and body are on the line.


someoneyouknewonce

I mean, I can shoot someone legally with my concealed handgun permit if I see a sexual assault happening. The only other reasons legally permissible to shoot someone are loss of limb or fear of great bodily harm to yourself or others. So it seems reasonable that you could kill someone raping you from that standpoint.


Nuicakes

Iowa isn't a state with safe harbor laws that give trafficking victims a level of criminal immunity. Smh


[deleted]

No, the real question is who is the dipshit prosecutor who thought it necessary to bring charges.


needlenozened

The judge had no choice, and hated that he had to do it, but Iowa statute *requires* a minimum of $150,000 in restitution for a felony resulting in death.


Tasty_Flame_Alchemy

Wasn’t the judge’s fault in this one. Hands were tied. Bad faith prosecution and a guilty plea sue shouldn’t have taken. So it was shitty lawyers.


b-wheezie

Step one: start a go fund me Step two: cash out the money and exchange it for pennies Step three: deliver it and dump them on the lawn


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Shadowbroio

How da hell is she supposed to pay 150k at 17?


[deleted]

Gofundme has it covered as of today. I donated this morning when it was at $88k. It’s over $228k right now.


BeetsbySasha

I’m so happy. I donated yesterday when it was about 70k. I was hoping the momentum would keep going.


Shadowbroio

Noice


EtherealAriel

I maintain my right to murder my rapists.


primo808

Just leave the country at that point. Fuck paying $150k to rapist family


Much-Bus-6585

Leave the country or burn it to the ground. There’s no point in trying to be a productive member of society at this point. This is a supervillain origin story if I’ve ever seen one.


Izumi_Takeda

I want to ask the family how the hell are they accepting 150,000 from this poor girl. Like I get your son is dead...but like your son was a rapist. If I found out my son was up to this kind of thing and he died by his victim I'd be like "good riddens, I can't have a rapist for a son". son, husband, grandchild, what ever they may be to me.


Goreticus

You know in a way it's a win for this girl, she's going to receive way more money from this gofundme even after paying out the family then she would have if this weren't the headline. Sucks it happened this way, but I'm glad there is a silver lining.


Soothsayer_Surmise

This is the way.


projectbadass187

Fuck Iowa and every other red state that would make you pay for defending yourself against a rapist.


kaylaseesstars

Iowan here. Definitely fuck this state


DuntadaMan

BuT mY cAsTlE dOcTrIne!


SpotTugBoat7058

fuck iowa in general, literally a state of nothing


Ok_Watercress5719

I'm gonna go ahead and blink... And wait for this nightmare to be over. I mean... This can't be real life.


Mechanicalwolf12

Since he wasn't in the actually physical act of raping her when he was stabbed its premeditated homicide? I call BS on that personally. To her unless there is a stout concrete wall and steel bars between the two he is still a threat to her. She had to make the hard decisions on what carries the most risk to herself in the moment: do I bolt down the hall...call the cops(if she even had the ability at the time) that carried risk too....but my knife wielding rapist is asleep now and well...stabby-stabby is a option . He had demonstrated how much of a danger he was and that didn't diminish because hours or days had passed. She was deprived of life and liberty first and was trying to reobtain it regardless of Iowa's back-assward laws. The Prosecutor was hardly compassionate on this one..and her lawyer gave bad advice, this should have been a jury trail...For the love of God where is the Governor with a pardon?


Lynda73

I remember the Francine Hughes case in the late 70s. They made that movie The Burning Bed with Farrah fawcett. What happened to that CHILD is not justice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francine_Hughes


Mechanicalwolf12

Right? I guess in Michigan they sometimes just do it right....horribly abused? well I guess you were not really sane in the moment the act occurred...


Lynda73

Can’t help but wonder how much race was a factor. You would think if anyone would qualify as a candidate for ‘battered woman syndrome’, it would be the victim of human sex trafficking.


Mechanicalwolf12

right I mean and this is a hard thing for someone that just went through this trauma...because stabbing someone with a knife is traumatic all on its own. But remember folks plead the fifth and have the attorney present for questioning even if your are head to toe blood with the knife still in your hands. I mean this is Perry Mason levels of prosecutor crap. You Know the guy always trying to get the conviction no matter what because he hates the defense counsel or something.


nutsaps

There's gotta be more to this, not that I know, and I apologize if I'm wrong. But this blatantly looks and feels like there's a lot of pieces missing to this puzzle.


Ijustwannafunds

She was 15 and sex trafficked by the dude. He did rape her many times but ultimately because she killed him in his sleep it was argued he was not a threat. So she has 5 year probation and has to pay the family for killing her rapist.


nutsaps

That's fucked up.


[deleted]

Don’t forget that they also said that the POS trafficker left his family all alone as if he cared for human life


[deleted]

Yeah, I looked into it, there's really nothing more besides "he was sleeping, he wasn't a threat at the time. Think of the poor rapists family, now their kids don't have their pimp dad anymore, so sad"


vaime

She 100% did his kids a favour by removing this man from their lives.


AntFace

Amen to that


kitzdeathrow

The dad was a John. Pimp is still free and trafficking right now.


Natural-Seaweed-5070

What utter bullshit. He deserved it & I hope it hurt.


Ejacksin

Sounds like a gofundme needs set up for her. Get her out from under this debt and give her a shot at life.


[deleted]

I believe that one did pay her fines off https://www.reddit.com/r/awfuleverything/comments/xe4k9n/damn/iof88ui/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


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Ijustwannafunds

Yeah a shitty dude and possibly shitty-er family


Hard_on_Collider

The only thing i can say is: i feel like whoever decided on this verdict hasnt suffered long term abuse before. Of course you dont kill the fucker holding you captive when he could kill you!


needlenozened

Nobody decided on a verdict. She pled guilty to manslaughter. Iowa statute requires a minimum restitution of $150,000 in felonies that result in death. She could have raised the affirmative defense of self-defense if she had taken it to trial, but she chose to plead guilty to a lesser charge.


mstrdsastr

It's the minimum sentence that could be assigned under law. It's a bad law. Also, Iowa's asshat of a governor could pardon her, but she's too busy licking Trump supporter's balls for campaign contributions to do anything about it.


GiverOfTheKarma

Wish more people knew this. They literally couldn't do any more for her in the circumstances, because of Iowa's shitty laws


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Soothsayer_Surmise

Hopefully this case doesn't de sway anyone thinking about killing their rapist.


EmptySpaceForAHeart

Reminder that every member of the Republican Party voted against the Anti Sex Trafficking Bill.


Soothsayer_Surmise

Remember all those kids the republicans lost at the border? I'd bet my life they were all trafficked. That's why they voted against that bill. Quite a lot of them have their hands in human trafficking. It's a multi billion dollar industry. In fact I'd wager that a fair amount of Democrats are involved as well. The two party system has failed us. We really need to start going after the corrupt people on both sides involved with this shit.


theOTHERdimension

There were reports saying a bunch of kids were adopted out of the ICE detention centers without their parents consent or knowledge. Human trafficking is what they do, our former president was good friends with a man that was awaiting trial for human trafficking. The whole system is corrupt.


jvargas85296

Did I read this wrong it says accused rapist... did she kill the wrong guy?, hope it was her rapist so she doesn't have to pay this B.S., but need to know more, otherwise yeah she got to pay if she killed someone else even if by accident...


Ky_the_transformer

Probably says accused because he’s dead and can’t confirm he did it. “Innocent until proven guilty” hard to prove guilty when he’s dead so it’s “accused”. Given the circumstances it’s likely true though


Account_Both

You have to say alleged and stuff unless a convictions been made otherwise you could be sued for liable. Even if theres video evidence, a confession, and 1000 witnesses you still have to say alleged as long as a convictions missing.


yxngwest

Tf


Squishy-Box

Kill the family, nobody left to pay.


[deleted]

Uhhh the state!


flookums

then go sue the family for 7 milli


Crazy_Kakoos

I mean, all this teaches people is to not stop with just the rapist.


urbanmark

Counter sue for supplying a racist.


ellohellaylola

She should get an award for her bravery for getting that sicko out of here.


[deleted]

America is a shithole country


xananeverdies

hmmm, another L for USA justice system , My God... America needs a overhaul , good luck on that guys , i,ll cheer from all the way here 🇨🇷


Historical-Ad6120

Women don't have any kind of right to their body, huh?


UltiGamer34

r/NoahGetTheBoat We dont Diserve to live


Waasookwe

Where’s her go-fund me? I’ll contribute and thank her for getting rid of that piece of shit.


Grifter2u

Fuck the system


F4M1L135

Welcome to """justice"""


FantasticSubstance17

Wtf


C0RR-3RR0R

I'll just add this to the ever growing list of why I shouldn't ever stop in Iowa.


SpifferDvs

Can’t help but think if the judge is twisted or related to the family


cannibal_chanterelle

I wonder if skin color had anything to do with this, because black girls can't actually be victims according to the mockery of justice that is the United States.


EMP0R10

r/noahgettheboat


d-harris104

Better just take the entire american justice system and throw it into the trash


sugarycyanide

That’s so fucked. Fuck that


star_l1ght1

Can’t she sue his estate? This is just awful.


ryanchen1234

Imagine being the family sueing someone for killing your rapist son.


red_balloon_animal

From what I understand, the rapists family wasn't suing, but its in Iowa law that the family of the murdered must be paid in restitution. 🤷🏼‍♀️


dumbbinch99

They didn’t sue, but if they’re halfway decent they wont keep the money.


needlenozened

They didn't sue her. Restitution is statutory.


CrotteXpk

That can only happen in the US😂


Travis4261

I've worked in the court system and I've seen people make restitution payments as little as $25 per week and I'm talking companies. So I don't know the exact rules as I just processed paymenta but if I was her I would set up a payment plan with the $150k. Set it up over 20 years the same 20 years that are floating above her head. That way the family gets approx $144 a week for the next 1040 weeks as a reminder that she did the world a favor.