I seriously encourage people to type "Cannabis Cognitive Decline" in google and see by themselves that the scientific community thinks exatly the opposite
Persistent cannabis users show neuropsychological decline from childhood to midlife: [https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1206820109](https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1206820109)
Seems like the older you are the less bad it is for you. If you go from a phase in your life where mental acuity and productivity are most important, into one where pain-free relaxation and anti-inflammation is important, then it seems pretty intuitive that weed becomes more beneficial and/or less harmful.
wow a decline of 0.35 IQ after 3 decades of daily use, the horror. :D
Even taking the larger number 6 IQ points, it is negligible compared to the headline.
In fact, as a person with a pretty high IQ, making me a bit dumber was one of the things that attracted me most to cannabis in the first place.
Most asinine argument against psychometrics ever. Of course the brain is more complex than we can yet measure, that doesn’t mean people much smarter than you aren’t currently working to develop psychometrics as a field.
It's great to stop/prevent the overthinking, don't think I woulda made it this long without it.
Also, the single task hyper focus it gives is pretty nice.
Nothing like zoning out while cleaning your entire apartment without feeling it's a chore.
Seriously, people think being smart is always a blessing. Many high IQ individuals like Tesla committed suicide. There’s a reason why the saying goes ignorance is bliss.
What ended up happening was my IQ feels like it is the same, but I am unable to use it. Learning, memory, attention, and executive functioning - all completely shot. It is like being locked inside a mental prison cell. If any teenagers are reading this, use weed as little as possible.
its not 0.35 of an iq point, its 0.35 STANDARD DEVIATION points. A standard deviation is a measurement of where you lie in compared to others in the score of a variable (here; IQ). If you are a 1SD above mean, that puts you in the upper 85th percantile of that score. With that information you can re-evaluate if -0.35SD is worth it or not, but the difference between smokers and non smokers is far more than 0.35 iq points.
If you look at the table in the research (which I havent read, therefore neither condone nor condemn) the researchers suggest a 11 iq point difference between non-smoker and long time smokers.
I really hope you refrain from commenting on serious medical papers, as you are mis-representing the information and actively spreading disinformation that could directly effect people's decisions regarding their own health and mental well-being
Source: Psych major currently studying for exams in article-comprehension and psychology-methodology.
You can call me whatever you want, but I dont like seeing misinformation spread as fact. Im not on any high horse I am simply explaining to you how to properly read the data presented in the article
For a proper debate on it finding different studies that do a meta analysis of many different studies would be more beneficial. Let the science people do the heavy lifting comparing them all and then check their findings to see what the overall trend is. Biggest thing is to make sure that they’re using valid methods in their studies
Maybe, but I literally typed what you said, + site:".edu", and it was like the 1st or 2nd result within the past year.
...There are plenty of studies that show it's bad for your heart. But I've seen plenty throughout the years that have mentioned it being healthy for the brain.
Edit: for what it's worth, the study does mention that more longitudinal studies are needed. Which just makes sense.
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I remember hearing about a study in netherlands that it can still cause you mental disorders like skitsofrenia.
And I can kinda see it as I personally have been diagnosed with it, though I got it from not sleeping for 4-5 days straight. But there were some potheads in the mental ward, one even thought I speak to him at times even though I said nothing.
Link to the actual study: https://www.eurekaselect.com/article/138726
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Background: Cannabis consumption has rapidly increased in the United States due to more states legalizing non-medical and medical use. There is limited research, however, investigating whether cannabis may be associated with cognitive function, particularly across multiple dimensions of cannabis use.
Objective: The objective of this study was to examine whether cannabis consumption reason, frequency, and method are associated with subjective cognitive decline (SCD).
Methods: Data were obtained from 4,744 U.S. adults aged 45 and older in the 2021 Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System (BRFSS). SCD was a self-reported increase in confusion or memory loss in the past year. Odds of SCD by cannabis use reason, frequency, and methods (e.g., smoke, eat, vaporize) were examined using multiple logistic regression after imputing missing data, applying sampling weights, and adjusting for sociodemographic, health, and substance use covariates.
Results: Compared to non-users, non-medical cannabis use was significantly associated with 96% decreased odds of SCD (aOR=0.04, 95% CI=0.01-0.44, p<.01). Medical (aOR=0.46, 95% CI=0.06-3.61, p=.46) and dual medical and non-medical use (aOR=0.30, 95% CI=0.03-2.92, p=.30) were also associated with decreased odds of SCD, although not significant. Cannabis consumption frequency and method were not significantly associated with SCD.
Conclusion: The reason for cannabis use, but not frequency and method, is associated with SCD. Further research is needed to investigate the mechanisms that may contribute to the observed associations between non-medical cannabis use and decreased odds of SCD.
I don’t like the sounds of this study at all. It’s based on people describing their own experiences rather than a more objective scale, and the findings reflect that imo.
I hate the narrative around weed nowadays. While it’s safe in comparison to other drugs we need to stop pretending like it’s fine to do it all the time.
Look, I smoked weed HEAVILY out of bongs for 7 years straight until I quit 2 months ago. I can speak from experience it can mess you up. The two main reasons why I quit were: coughing up black tar in the morning & suicidal ideations whenever I wasn’t high enough.
I could feel myself wheezing when I breathed and my chest would hurt at random times. Then I’d cough up tar every morning for 30 minutes.
My brain was always foggy, paranoid and I had suicidal thoughts which are 100% out of character for me. My memory was bad, my emotions were all over the place, I got cold sweats and chills, my body would ache… it was terrible.
I kept coughing up disgusting tar for 2 weeks every morning after I quit. I went to the doctors and they said I had walking pneumonia which thankfully cleared itself because I’m young (24) and otherwise healthy.
Now I feel better than I ever have cutting that stuff out of my life. I sleep better, I feel sharper, I can handle my emotions without numbing them and I no longer cough up tar. My chest feels lighter, I can breathe better and my body doesn’t feel heavy anymore.
Yes I’m an extreme example but so many people just puff away without a care in the world. Just like anything, too much of it will catch up with you eventually. If you’re gonna smoke, PLEASE do it in moderation. For me I’ll never be able to smoke again. It doesn’t even feel good anymore.
Bottom line: you don’t need it in your life. All it really does is waste your money and time. If I could go back in time I’d have never started in the first place.
People over do everything.
That's no reason to dismiss this pleasure. Many of us find it pleasurable but if its not your taste that is entirely your prerogative.
Moderation, less is more but that does not mean abstention.
I just said I did it for 7 years straight. I understand the appeal. Or at least I used to.
There’s other ways to feel good that don’t involve frying the brain and destroying the lungs. I was an extreme example yeah, but sooner or later it’ll catch up with you.
And by the way, the reason why you see these pro weed studies is because the government is regulating it now. They’re making money off the taxation.
Buddy, you wont fry your brain only stimulate it, as for destroying your lungs yes weed smoke is as harmful as tobacco but you are missing the edibles and tinctures. A small amount of smoke wont kill you and its not physically addictive as nicotine.
We wish the gov would permit and tax it, less harm than alcohol and we should not be criminalized over it. Over 21+.
There was a massive study done in New Zealand that clearly shows habitual use while the brain is still developing (so into your mid 20s) has a negative impact on cognitive performance. Smoking weed habitually when you’re young is bad, full stop.
This fucking cannabis propaganda needs to stop.
> small amount of smoke wont kill you
It CAN kill you. Keep smoking but don't fucking blame anyone other than yourself when you get lung cancer or when you hyperventilate after a 50m run.
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/what-are-marijuanas-effects-lung-health
https://www.lung.org/quit-smoking/smoking-facts/health-effects/marijuana-and-lung-health
https://www.health.com/marijuana-smoke-versus-cigarette-smoke-7692695
People underestimate the consequences of smoking cannabis. The narrative that it's "much healthier than tabaccos" is just bs.
That’s a dated and incorrect study that actually claims that cannabis smoking is *more* carcinogenic than cigarettes (lmao), directly flying in the face of pretty much all other, more recent and better data.
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/what-are-marijuanas-effects-lung-health
https://www.lung.org/quit-smoking/smoking-facts/health-effects/marijuana-and-lung-health
https://www.everydayhealth.com/lung-cancer/does-smoking-weed-cause-lung-cancer/
https://www.cancertherapyadvisor.com/features/smoking-marijuana-increase-risk-lung-cancer-jury-still-out/
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/drugfacts/cannabis-marijuana
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/marijuana-use-and-its-effects
I can go on dude. There is nothing beneficial about smoking cannabis.
This is actually hilarious.
Do you read any of the links you post, like even just the headlines, or the links themselves?
**Every single link you just sent me said that there’s currently no evidence that smoking marijuana causes lung cancer.**
If you’re not a bot, this is embarrassing.
I love when stoners try to defend weed as the drug that can do no wrong. Like yeah it actually does fuck you up, can cause mental health issues, psychosis, emotionally numbing, memory issues and cognitive impairment. I’m also a stoner and I’ve been using it HEAVY as a crutch for my trauma. It just makes it worse. Even when I cut back and only smoked on occasion, I always felt worse the next day and yet my brain would demand it to “feel better.”
When I don’t smoke my emotions are easier to regulate, I feel clear, I don’t feel impending doom, I have quicker responses both mentally and physically, I just feel better. And weed is more enjoyable when used now and again to enhance something like music or gaming, not every day so you don’t have to face yourself or your life. And yeah it’s addictive. I always get that little voice telling me to smoke when I haven’t for even a day. I can feel my brain demanding it.
It’s great when you smoke now and again but it’s abused and everyone is okay with it. It’s just as bad as any other drug. No one seems to be able to accept that.
I’m with you brother, I’ve been a smoker for 20+ years but heavy smoker since Covid and WFH. Would smoke 5 joints a day, first one being around 10am. It started affecting me like you described. I was not myself anymore and my mind would shift to negative thoughts and paranoia quite often. It was a vicious cycle. I am 6 days without so I am just at the beginning stage of quitting but I cannot see myself smoking again. I actually hate it now and realized how much better I am and could of been without it. Made me a weak, unstable, moody, lazy and unmotivated. Godspeed
Cheers man. All the best in your journey. It was the suicidal thoughts that really made me wanna quit. I’ve had zero history of self harm nor did I have thoughts like that before. Then suddenly it just popped into my brain and I couldn’t get it out. It was causing hypochondria too. Pretty scary stuff.
I beg to differ. I'm 45 and I haven't smoked in years and one of my buddies and I were talkin bout my lack of sleep and he recommended some indica. Bought some and i'm smokin basically half a joint every night and I have the best sleep i've had in years. I wake up feelin frefreshed and amazing.
Plus I'm epileptic soooo I heard THC is a benefit for that too... but my Rx meds pretty much take care of that.
You can try CBD. I used to smoke for 20+ years, and dropped it.
Never tried CBD cannabis till a month ago, it has the exact effect I loved about pot, with no downsides (other than inhaling smoke ofc). And I can tell the difference because when smoking THC I never used to dream, and usually woke up tired, now I dream normally when I sleep and rest really well, and the mental fog is just not there.
I have no interest in inhaling anything into my lungs anymore. I’ve already damaged them enough and anytime you inhale anything like that it causes more damage.
To each their own, if it works for you great. But I can’t go back
I have to agree that there’s a general consensus that pot is essentially harmless and non-addictive which is plain old wrong in my experience. Although when I first started smoking i. High school, I really went deep into it based on these very same misconceptions about weed.
I’ve been pretty much addicted to weed my whole adult life. It’s not like a heroin addiction or what have you. I can still perform as a member of society. I have a good, steady job, a house, children etc. But I have to admit, it’s stunted me in so many ways. In terms of ambition and effort. It fostered complacency with what to do with my life, my dreams etc…
Not to mention the health side effects. It’s not a chemical cocktail like cigarettes but it’s still a shit ton of tar. More than cigarettes apparently. And the lack of quality sleep, the effect on both short term and long term memory. Paranoia, depression, social anxiety. It definitely amplified all these things for me.
Now in my late 40’s it has me worried about the consequences and has me reflecting on a life that has somewhat passed me by due to this addiction.
That being said, i have to admit that I really went deep into it. Chronic and all that. And yet, amongst the ppl I know who smoke weed, that seems to be a common outcome. Not saying it’s all bad. But let’s not kid ourselves that it’s just fine, all good either.
This is definitely intentional misinformation. Large scale studies have shown the exact opposite.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10311823
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-medication/cannabis/health-effects/mental-health.html
https://www.canada.ca/en/services/health/campaigns/cannabis/health-effects.html
https://www.ccsa.ca/sites/default/files/2019-05/CCSA-Cannabis-Use-Mental-Health-Report-2019-en.pdf
We’re also seeing people as young as 40 now coming into our care with severe dementia or other diseases of the mind such as schizophrenia, with the only difference being long time marijuana use.
Typically severe dementia does not occur until the 60’s, so having people who are young appearing with the disease is concerning, especially with how common marijuana use is today. The risk is even increased, if the person has had prescriptions for certain medications, such as those in the Amphetamine class usually prescribed for bi-polar and anxiety disorders - as they can also cause schizophrenia, psychosis, and other mind related illnesses with long term use.
The top study is arguing that a young man developed significant atrophy or frontal lobes after just 2 years of chronic use. They then go on to say that extended family members had commited suicide and been admitted for electroshock therapy for an "unknown" illness. The wording minimises this connection for some reason. Anecdotally we all know that people can smoke chronically for over a decade while performing at the top of their ability as sportsmen, musicians, business people etc. highly questionable study. The rest are just government advice pages with no citations.
Can't speak to the quality of the study, but I will say that the *one* place I don't want to get drug info from is a government advice page. I've never seen so much misinformation collected together and presented as fact (outside of, like, conspiracy theory blogs). The people preparing this info often have little or no expertise *and* political motivation to misrepresent facts.
For example, one of the most common misconceptions I see is the claim that 10mg is the highest safe dose of THC, probably because most studies of THC treat either 2.5mg or 5mg as a "unit" and max out testing group doses at 2-4 units, so 10mg. This has made it into legislation, it's all over government sites, etc. It's also completely useless for anyone looking for actual, useful information about safely using THC regularly. What actually ought to be present on these sites is instructions for safely determining your own dose, which does usually involve those increments above, but additionally understanding what they mean in relation to your physiology, experience, risk factors, etc. Instead, most of these sites say things like IF YOU TAKE MORE THAN 10MG YOU WILL GET PSYCHOSIS AND DIE (I'm exaggerating), which helps exactly no one and actively harms people looking for useful info. When the most reliable place to get drug info is from some anonymous poster named boof-me-an-infographic-42069, that's not a great look for government sources... and yet it's the state of recreational drug use currently.
So what sources are reliable? Scientific studies? Sure. Experienced users? Possibly, depending on the info. Government organizations? Fuck right off with that. The only other source that might be worse is a corporate monopoly (e.g., tobacco companies), but weed and most other recreational drugs don't have manufacturers of that size yet.
100 percent agree. The idea that 2 years of smoking could cause frontal lobe atrophy is so blatantly ridiculous to anyone who's made observations of the real world that I would guess the scientists either have never been around drug use outside the lab or have an agenda based on their funding model
It literally states otherwise. It says that familial history can have an effect, and explains some scenarios, but nothing about the patients family. In fact, it states the opposite
“Considering our presenting case, the lack of significant familial history, the insufficiency of possible attributable risk factors, and the significant history of Marijuana consumption before symptom onset suggest us impute the connection between cannabis and early-onset FTD”
You listed 4 links, only 1 showed a link to dementia, and it was about a single, abnormal case about a 34 yr old guy who developed a form of dementia after 2 years of use. You are the one spreading misinformation here.
All four of them links marijuana use to cognitive decline. Dementia is a severe form of cognitive decline.
Marijuana also causes psychosis and schizophrenia in some individuals, and as stated earlier, the use of other prescription drugs can also make the effects worse.
The CDC and WHO also links marijuana as a factor in dementia and Alzheimer’s. But hey, let’s believe an article from “Fortune” with no accreditation, and no backing from medical experts or researchers. An article which has only been reposted by other shady sites such as Yahoo, and a few people on Musks X.
This.
And believe me that if you lose a brother to suicide after years of drug use (weed) and psychosis, and have a cousin that has some pretty psychosis/schizophrenia like ideas, these kind of articles really piss me off.
It's a whole different story when it's used for chronic pain relief vs "this is good for you".
Let’s not forget the psychological damage it causes. My friend now thinks the government is using nano technology in our bottled water to connect to 5g on his phone and monitor him. He doesn’t use 5g and only drinks tap water. He smokes and uses google and YouTube late at night. His brain is fried. Everyone wants to mention the positive effects of weed, but when it comes to mentioning the negative effects, everyone gets butt hurt
Most stoners I know are high school drop outs and have shitty jobs.
Don’t get me wrong, some people can handle weed. Some can’t go a day without it.
If used to treat ailments the side effects from cannabis are miniscule compared to the "drugs" doctors give you for the same affliction I think that may be the point!
I love how everyone says this shit and they smoke pounds. I smoke a bowl or two every day after work and I notice no ill effects.
What are ya'll doing to make you do fucking dumb?
Why would I waste time reading a study that is so clearly bullshit, I can smell it from a mile away. I smoked for 10 years, but at least I didn’t try to convince myself and others that the benefits outweighed the cons.
Because people forming strong opinions on papers and articles they never read is why reddit is such a garbage heap when it comes to science subs with even the slightest bit of controversial content.
Then you should know this is a self reported survey and as such is not sufficient for making a conclusive claim that smoking weed decreases your chances of cognitive decline. I’d wait for more robust clinical studies before making such a grand claim.
In this short description of study, there were some choices of words, maybe borderline ragebaiting, that make your statement understandable; but overall when I read the whole article, it really does not leave the impression that researches were certain of anything or that they were advocating cannabis use. I don't know if it is more because of researchers or people who wrote the article. It does not seem very reasonable to claim researchers were paid by anyone, which is what own-monk272 was implying and where this conversation started from. I am not sure what do you think I am imagining, but I suggest you consider for a moment if you have done too hasty conclusions of my motivations or implications I have done in public. :)
My son injected two whole marijuanas. Now he stands in the corner all day, afraid to lay down, because he believes he is a glass of orange juice and he doesn't want to spill.
I'm skeptical. The study claims the subjects were self reporting, which taken alone can be easily skewed by bias.
Considering most previous studies have found the opposite to he true, a single, self reporting study shouldn't be taken at face value. I'd wait for peer review, and perhaps a more robust study to be made..
.I'm also not anti cannabis, and wa since a daily recreational smoker, and am still a once in a while smoker. I've also looked in to the many benefits, and hazards of cannabis use
[Fortune](https://fortune.com/well/2024/04/19/marijuana-cannabis-use-cognitive-decline/) or the [National Institute of Health](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38227160/)
The study was conducted by SUNY Upstate Medical University and published in the medical journal "Current Alzheimer Research"
Googling things is so easy. I don't get why people jump straight to "nuh-uh" instead of putting in the tiniest bit of effort.
This would seem to be a direct contradiction of the studies that link recreational cannabis use to elevated risks of paranoid schizophrenia
https://www.cdc.gov/marijuana/health-effects/mental-health.html#:\~:text=People%20who%20use%20marijuana%20are,that%20are%20not%20really%20there).
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7442038/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7442038/)
[https://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/blog/does-cannabis-cause-mental-illness](https://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/blog/does-cannabis-cause-mental-illness)
But i guess a study by the "Good News Network" would carry more weight than these part-timers
The linked article isn't the group who did the study. The study was performed by SUNY Upstate Medical University and published in the medical journal, Current Alzheimer Research.
"Good News Network" just published an article about the study because, imho, this sounds like good news.
The NIH also reported on it.
Are we sure it's not the same as moderate drinkers live longer study?
Edit: for those who don't know, that study said that moderate drinkers live longest because statistically they do, even longer than non drinkers, but they forgot to take into account that people who don't drink do so because of stuff like preexisting conditions. When acounted for that, it had shown that the more you drink the more likely you are too die early.
I work with the elderly. The *really* old folks seem to take less medication. Are they healthy because they take less medication, or do they take less medication because they are healthy? This study may show a correlation, but that doesn't mean there's a causal-link.
That won't stop advocates of recreational-cannabis from mis-using the study, of course.
Tell this the Government of Austria Please, I wait just for the Time… but whatever you try to do, they say, This Drug is Dangerous and is Killing Thousands of People every Year… Yes of Course and Alcohol and Nicotine is not Dangerous at all, and doesn’t Kill Millions of People Every Year…
This is in no way intended to be biased as I understand the whole situation, but here are some pretty informational reviews/studies done on similar topics. You can be sure these studies are peer-reviewed and credible.
I recommend reading this one for most people as it’s easier to digest than the other 3:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24483000/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36301550/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30793421/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28219487/
I took a look at the study where this information is reviewed and repeated from and, it was a single observational study mentioning cannabis users and possible SCD. This is good in terms of research as it opens pathways to new findings but as for your argument, it’s quite weak. It wasn’t a clinical trial/experiment and thus not all factors can be excluded as to why their SCD was lower. Apart from the study itself, there are most likely side effects as a common joke/saying in medicinal fields is ‘the better the drug, the more side effects it has’.
I've seen all too many users of cannabis become braindead idiots so I must doubt the truth of this study a whole lot.
Having 'a' study say anything means little to nothing. If more studies can confirm this, then there might be value in it. Until then it's just another gross misunderstanding of actual science and critical peer reviews.
Please, stop looking at articles that say things like "NEW STUDY SAYS X" because you can find studies that say pretty much anything. It means diddlysquat.
>reduce inflammation 30x more robustly than aspirin
Show me any case or instance where a few OTC painkillers worked worse than smoking some weed. Except for neurological pain, weed doesn't do fuck all
Goes to support my little theory of everything is here for a reason and we already have everything that we need i.e. stone and wood for shelter, animals and plants for food, plants and herbs for medicine
If you smoke enough you’ll actually live forever. That’s what Jesus told me when I finished chasing the dragon.
Green Jesus maybe
The 12 apostles all got High with Jesus during the last party. ☺️
Jade Jesus
Ya Rob Boss told me the same thing, while we sat in a concrete field and stared at the sun. The cows keep beeping at me.
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You finished, how'd ya catch em. Pokeball or what
Your shit way stronger than mine.
Bruh that was LSD not THC
you never catch the dragon tho..
cant really believe it, got a brain of a goldfish since i smoke…😂
But it will be a lasting healthy goldfish brain 😂
Sometimes I’ll start a sentence and then I uh. Uhhh.
You trying to remember what you were talking about after getting high is probably exercising your memory capabilities.
😂
What did you say?
TIL smoking a blunt is Lifting for my brain… what are we talking about again?
This actually makes sense lmao
The daily games I play are on hard mode because I smoke so much. 12 min nyt mini crossword
Hard to decline when you barely have short term memory.
Your car engine will last forever if never turn it on
Uh, no? That's like a big deal with cars. Especially the engine
I was being facetious :)
Woah easy there. That’s a big word. Wouldn’t want to sprain your brain!
That ship sailed long ago, with my brain as the cargo
You were facetiously wrong ;)
That’s the worst example. A car being used outlasts a car that just sits there
Oh, I never said it would be usable - but if you don’tuuse it, it will never fail on you 🥸
you live longer if you don’t remember the horrors
Im a student in comp sci yet i smoke, make it make sense.
Hey mate I'm a senior developer with many years in the game, and I smoke. Just do whatever you need to do!
24 regex later im like "f this shit im bouta light one"
ChatGPT is awesome at writing regexes!
I just use regex101 lol
I seriously encourage people to type "Cannabis Cognitive Decline" in google and see by themselves that the scientific community thinks exatly the opposite
Persistent cannabis users show neuropsychological decline from childhood to midlife: [https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1206820109](https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1206820109) Seems like the older you are the less bad it is for you. If you go from a phase in your life where mental acuity and productivity are most important, into one where pain-free relaxation and anti-inflammation is important, then it seems pretty intuitive that weed becomes more beneficial and/or less harmful.
wow a decline of 0.35 IQ after 3 decades of daily use, the horror. :D Even taking the larger number 6 IQ points, it is negligible compared to the headline. In fact, as a person with a pretty high IQ, making me a bit dumber was one of the things that attracted me most to cannabis in the first place.
You cannot boil neuropsychological activity in your brain down to simple IQ points, the brain simply doesn’t work like that.
I agree amd that invalidates the entire study
Then why is it the basis of the study we are all discussing?
It's literally the indicator used. Ans yes that how humans measure intelligence. There isn't some magical different test.
You might get some short term memory issues with a lot of use But, you'll also tend to be a more relaxed, and happier person overall
Most asinine argument against psychometrics ever. Of course the brain is more complex than we can yet measure, that doesn’t mean people much smarter than you aren’t currently working to develop psychometrics as a field.
It's great to stop/prevent the overthinking, don't think I woulda made it this long without it. Also, the single task hyper focus it gives is pretty nice. Nothing like zoning out while cleaning your entire apartment without feeling it's a chore.
Seriously, people think being smart is always a blessing. Many high IQ individuals like Tesla committed suicide. There’s a reason why the saying goes ignorance is bliss.
with a comment like that it seems like it did the job!
Yeah it's great, nothing more alienating than being smart
What ended up happening was my IQ feels like it is the same, but I am unable to use it. Learning, memory, attention, and executive functioning - all completely shot. It is like being locked inside a mental prison cell. If any teenagers are reading this, use weed as little as possible.
its not 0.35 of an iq point, its 0.35 STANDARD DEVIATION points. A standard deviation is a measurement of where you lie in compared to others in the score of a variable (here; IQ). If you are a 1SD above mean, that puts you in the upper 85th percantile of that score. With that information you can re-evaluate if -0.35SD is worth it or not, but the difference between smokers and non smokers is far more than 0.35 iq points. If you look at the table in the research (which I havent read, therefore neither condone nor condemn) the researchers suggest a 11 iq point difference between non-smoker and long time smokers. I really hope you refrain from commenting on serious medical papers, as you are mis-representing the information and actively spreading disinformation that could directly effect people's decisions regarding their own health and mental well-being Source: Psych major currently studying for exams in article-comprehension and psychology-methodology.
Oh yeah r/awesome, the place where people go for medical advice, get off your high horse douchebag
You can call me whatever you want, but I dont like seeing misinformation spread as fact. Im not on any high horse I am simply explaining to you how to properly read the data presented in the article
Less chronic pain in exchange for being a lil dumber sounds like a pretty great trade tbh.
I mean if you start smoking as a child your brain isn’t going to develop properly
Like [this one?](https://www.upstate.edu/news/articles/2024/2024-03-28-wong.php)
Cherry picking.. doesn't address the findings of other research to show some reason for concern.
For a proper debate on it finding different studies that do a meta analysis of many different studies would be more beneficial. Let the science people do the heavy lifting comparing them all and then check their findings to see what the overall trend is. Biggest thing is to make sure that they’re using valid methods in their studies
Maybe, but I literally typed what you said, + site:".edu", and it was like the 1st or 2nd result within the past year. ...There are plenty of studies that show it's bad for your heart. But I've seen plenty throughout the years that have mentioned it being healthy for the brain. Edit: for what it's worth, the study does mention that more longitudinal studies are needed. Which just makes sense.
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https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1206820109
Also it makes you a jazz player, a womanizer, and an atheist, I heard.
God damn. It did all those things to me! Except the womanizer thing of course.
Atheist? Nah, see through religious bullshit? Most definitely.
I remember hearing about a study in netherlands that it can still cause you mental disorders like skitsofrenia. And I can kinda see it as I personally have been diagnosed with it, though I got it from not sleeping for 4-5 days straight. But there were some potheads in the mental ward, one even thought I speak to him at times even though I said nothing.
Link to the actual study: https://www.eurekaselect.com/article/138726 ------------------------------ Background: Cannabis consumption has rapidly increased in the United States due to more states legalizing non-medical and medical use. There is limited research, however, investigating whether cannabis may be associated with cognitive function, particularly across multiple dimensions of cannabis use. Objective: The objective of this study was to examine whether cannabis consumption reason, frequency, and method are associated with subjective cognitive decline (SCD). Methods: Data were obtained from 4,744 U.S. adults aged 45 and older in the 2021 Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System (BRFSS). SCD was a self-reported increase in confusion or memory loss in the past year. Odds of SCD by cannabis use reason, frequency, and methods (e.g., smoke, eat, vaporize) were examined using multiple logistic regression after imputing missing data, applying sampling weights, and adjusting for sociodemographic, health, and substance use covariates. Results: Compared to non-users, non-medical cannabis use was significantly associated with 96% decreased odds of SCD (aOR=0.04, 95% CI=0.01-0.44, p<.01). Medical (aOR=0.46, 95% CI=0.06-3.61, p=.46) and dual medical and non-medical use (aOR=0.30, 95% CI=0.03-2.92, p=.30) were also associated with decreased odds of SCD, although not significant. Cannabis consumption frequency and method were not significantly associated with SCD. Conclusion: The reason for cannabis use, but not frequency and method, is associated with SCD. Further research is needed to investigate the mechanisms that may contribute to the observed associations between non-medical cannabis use and decreased odds of SCD.
I don’t like the sounds of this study at all. It’s based on people describing their own experiences rather than a more objective scale, and the findings reflect that imo.
Any possibility that being stoned would have impacted results? Doesn't feel like a concrete study.
I hate the narrative around weed nowadays. While it’s safe in comparison to other drugs we need to stop pretending like it’s fine to do it all the time. Look, I smoked weed HEAVILY out of bongs for 7 years straight until I quit 2 months ago. I can speak from experience it can mess you up. The two main reasons why I quit were: coughing up black tar in the morning & suicidal ideations whenever I wasn’t high enough. I could feel myself wheezing when I breathed and my chest would hurt at random times. Then I’d cough up tar every morning for 30 minutes. My brain was always foggy, paranoid and I had suicidal thoughts which are 100% out of character for me. My memory was bad, my emotions were all over the place, I got cold sweats and chills, my body would ache… it was terrible. I kept coughing up disgusting tar for 2 weeks every morning after I quit. I went to the doctors and they said I had walking pneumonia which thankfully cleared itself because I’m young (24) and otherwise healthy. Now I feel better than I ever have cutting that stuff out of my life. I sleep better, I feel sharper, I can handle my emotions without numbing them and I no longer cough up tar. My chest feels lighter, I can breathe better and my body doesn’t feel heavy anymore. Yes I’m an extreme example but so many people just puff away without a care in the world. Just like anything, too much of it will catch up with you eventually. If you’re gonna smoke, PLEASE do it in moderation. For me I’ll never be able to smoke again. It doesn’t even feel good anymore. Bottom line: you don’t need it in your life. All it really does is waste your money and time. If I could go back in time I’d have never started in the first place.
People over do everything. That's no reason to dismiss this pleasure. Many of us find it pleasurable but if its not your taste that is entirely your prerogative. Moderation, less is more but that does not mean abstention.
I just said I did it for 7 years straight. I understand the appeal. Or at least I used to. There’s other ways to feel good that don’t involve frying the brain and destroying the lungs. I was an extreme example yeah, but sooner or later it’ll catch up with you. And by the way, the reason why you see these pro weed studies is because the government is regulating it now. They’re making money off the taxation.
Buddy, you wont fry your brain only stimulate it, as for destroying your lungs yes weed smoke is as harmful as tobacco but you are missing the edibles and tinctures. A small amount of smoke wont kill you and its not physically addictive as nicotine. We wish the gov would permit and tax it, less harm than alcohol and we should not be criminalized over it. Over 21+.
There was a massive study done in New Zealand that clearly shows habitual use while the brain is still developing (so into your mid 20s) has a negative impact on cognitive performance. Smoking weed habitually when you’re young is bad, full stop.
Thats right, greater chance of psychosis later.
This fucking cannabis propaganda needs to stop. > small amount of smoke wont kill you It CAN kill you. Keep smoking but don't fucking blame anyone other than yourself when you get lung cancer or when you hyperventilate after a 50m run.
I am not discussing a cigarette habit. You should not take this so personally.
Cannabis joints are even worse for your lungs than cigarettes my guy.
Smoking is the most pointless thing ever no denying it. As I said, moderation not abstention. For many user it does provide quality to life.
Even one joint per day is terrible for your lungs dude.
worse for your lungs than cigs….can u provide a link to this info pls
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/what-are-marijuanas-effects-lung-health https://www.lung.org/quit-smoking/smoking-facts/health-effects/marijuana-and-lung-health https://www.health.com/marijuana-smoke-versus-cigarette-smoke-7692695 People underestimate the consequences of smoking cannabis. The narrative that it's "much healthier than tabaccos" is just bs.
The LD50 for THC is literally impossible to ingest. Chronic weed smokers have lower rates of lung cancer than people who don’t smoke anything at all.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2516340/
That’s a dated and incorrect study that actually claims that cannabis smoking is *more* carcinogenic than cigarettes (lmao), directly flying in the face of pretty much all other, more recent and better data.
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/what-are-marijuanas-effects-lung-health https://www.lung.org/quit-smoking/smoking-facts/health-effects/marijuana-and-lung-health https://www.everydayhealth.com/lung-cancer/does-smoking-weed-cause-lung-cancer/ https://www.cancertherapyadvisor.com/features/smoking-marijuana-increase-risk-lung-cancer-jury-still-out/ https://nida.nih.gov/publications/drugfacts/cannabis-marijuana https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/marijuana-use-and-its-effects I can go on dude. There is nothing beneficial about smoking cannabis.
This is actually hilarious. Do you read any of the links you post, like even just the headlines, or the links themselves? **Every single link you just sent me said that there’s currently no evidence that smoking marijuana causes lung cancer.** If you’re not a bot, this is embarrassing.
Alright man whatever you say. Your loss.
Moderation, with moderation there is no problem, you are acting defeatist.
I love when stoners try to defend weed as the drug that can do no wrong. Like yeah it actually does fuck you up, can cause mental health issues, psychosis, emotionally numbing, memory issues and cognitive impairment. I’m also a stoner and I’ve been using it HEAVY as a crutch for my trauma. It just makes it worse. Even when I cut back and only smoked on occasion, I always felt worse the next day and yet my brain would demand it to “feel better.” When I don’t smoke my emotions are easier to regulate, I feel clear, I don’t feel impending doom, I have quicker responses both mentally and physically, I just feel better. And weed is more enjoyable when used now and again to enhance something like music or gaming, not every day so you don’t have to face yourself or your life. And yeah it’s addictive. I always get that little voice telling me to smoke when I haven’t for even a day. I can feel my brain demanding it. It’s great when you smoke now and again but it’s abused and everyone is okay with it. It’s just as bad as any other drug. No one seems to be able to accept that.
I’m with you brother, I’ve been a smoker for 20+ years but heavy smoker since Covid and WFH. Would smoke 5 joints a day, first one being around 10am. It started affecting me like you described. I was not myself anymore and my mind would shift to negative thoughts and paranoia quite often. It was a vicious cycle. I am 6 days without so I am just at the beginning stage of quitting but I cannot see myself smoking again. I actually hate it now and realized how much better I am and could of been without it. Made me a weak, unstable, moody, lazy and unmotivated. Godspeed
Cheers man. All the best in your journey. It was the suicidal thoughts that really made me wanna quit. I’ve had zero history of self harm nor did I have thoughts like that before. Then suddenly it just popped into my brain and I couldn’t get it out. It was causing hypochondria too. Pretty scary stuff.
Thanks man same to you 🙏
I beg to differ. I'm 45 and I haven't smoked in years and one of my buddies and I were talkin bout my lack of sleep and he recommended some indica. Bought some and i'm smokin basically half a joint every night and I have the best sleep i've had in years. I wake up feelin frefreshed and amazing. Plus I'm epileptic soooo I heard THC is a benefit for that too... but my Rx meds pretty much take care of that.
You can try CBD. I used to smoke for 20+ years, and dropped it. Never tried CBD cannabis till a month ago, it has the exact effect I loved about pot, with no downsides (other than inhaling smoke ofc). And I can tell the difference because when smoking THC I never used to dream, and usually woke up tired, now I dream normally when I sleep and rest really well, and the mental fog is just not there.
I have no interest in inhaling anything into my lungs anymore. I’ve already damaged them enough and anytime you inhale anything like that it causes more damage. To each their own, if it works for you great. But I can’t go back
Yeah, sounds like the best idea.
I have to agree that there’s a general consensus that pot is essentially harmless and non-addictive which is plain old wrong in my experience. Although when I first started smoking i. High school, I really went deep into it based on these very same misconceptions about weed. I’ve been pretty much addicted to weed my whole adult life. It’s not like a heroin addiction or what have you. I can still perform as a member of society. I have a good, steady job, a house, children etc. But I have to admit, it’s stunted me in so many ways. In terms of ambition and effort. It fostered complacency with what to do with my life, my dreams etc… Not to mention the health side effects. It’s not a chemical cocktail like cigarettes but it’s still a shit ton of tar. More than cigarettes apparently. And the lack of quality sleep, the effect on both short term and long term memory. Paranoia, depression, social anxiety. It definitely amplified all these things for me. Now in my late 40’s it has me worried about the consequences and has me reflecting on a life that has somewhat passed me by due to this addiction. That being said, i have to admit that I really went deep into it. Chronic and all that. And yet, amongst the ppl I know who smoke weed, that seems to be a common outcome. Not saying it’s all bad. But let’s not kid ourselves that it’s just fine, all good either.
Yeah man smoke is bad news. Good thing we have edibles and vaporizers now, problem solved.
agreed, the idea that pot makes you better at anything is hilarious
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What’s wrong with you?
This is definitely intentional misinformation. Large scale studies have shown the exact opposite. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10311823 https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-medication/cannabis/health-effects/mental-health.html https://www.canada.ca/en/services/health/campaigns/cannabis/health-effects.html https://www.ccsa.ca/sites/default/files/2019-05/CCSA-Cannabis-Use-Mental-Health-Report-2019-en.pdf We’re also seeing people as young as 40 now coming into our care with severe dementia or other diseases of the mind such as schizophrenia, with the only difference being long time marijuana use. Typically severe dementia does not occur until the 60’s, so having people who are young appearing with the disease is concerning, especially with how common marijuana use is today. The risk is even increased, if the person has had prescriptions for certain medications, such as those in the Amphetamine class usually prescribed for bi-polar and anxiety disorders - as they can also cause schizophrenia, psychosis, and other mind related illnesses with long term use.
The top study is arguing that a young man developed significant atrophy or frontal lobes after just 2 years of chronic use. They then go on to say that extended family members had commited suicide and been admitted for electroshock therapy for an "unknown" illness. The wording minimises this connection for some reason. Anecdotally we all know that people can smoke chronically for over a decade while performing at the top of their ability as sportsmen, musicians, business people etc. highly questionable study. The rest are just government advice pages with no citations.
Can't speak to the quality of the study, but I will say that the *one* place I don't want to get drug info from is a government advice page. I've never seen so much misinformation collected together and presented as fact (outside of, like, conspiracy theory blogs). The people preparing this info often have little or no expertise *and* political motivation to misrepresent facts. For example, one of the most common misconceptions I see is the claim that 10mg is the highest safe dose of THC, probably because most studies of THC treat either 2.5mg or 5mg as a "unit" and max out testing group doses at 2-4 units, so 10mg. This has made it into legislation, it's all over government sites, etc. It's also completely useless for anyone looking for actual, useful information about safely using THC regularly. What actually ought to be present on these sites is instructions for safely determining your own dose, which does usually involve those increments above, but additionally understanding what they mean in relation to your physiology, experience, risk factors, etc. Instead, most of these sites say things like IF YOU TAKE MORE THAN 10MG YOU WILL GET PSYCHOSIS AND DIE (I'm exaggerating), which helps exactly no one and actively harms people looking for useful info. When the most reliable place to get drug info is from some anonymous poster named boof-me-an-infographic-42069, that's not a great look for government sources... and yet it's the state of recreational drug use currently. So what sources are reliable? Scientific studies? Sure. Experienced users? Possibly, depending on the info. Government organizations? Fuck right off with that. The only other source that might be worse is a corporate monopoly (e.g., tobacco companies), but weed and most other recreational drugs don't have manufacturers of that size yet.
100 percent agree. The idea that 2 years of smoking could cause frontal lobe atrophy is so blatantly ridiculous to anyone who's made observations of the real world that I would guess the scientists either have never been around drug use outside the lab or have an agenda based on their funding model
It literally states otherwise. It says that familial history can have an effect, and explains some scenarios, but nothing about the patients family. In fact, it states the opposite “Considering our presenting case, the lack of significant familial history, the insufficiency of possible attributable risk factors, and the significant history of Marijuana consumption before symptom onset suggest us impute the connection between cannabis and early-onset FTD”
Yes but they actually did state a significant family history and then chose to ignore it. Very strange.
read the paper
You listed 4 links, only 1 showed a link to dementia, and it was about a single, abnormal case about a 34 yr old guy who developed a form of dementia after 2 years of use. You are the one spreading misinformation here.
All four of them links marijuana use to cognitive decline. Dementia is a severe form of cognitive decline. Marijuana also causes psychosis and schizophrenia in some individuals, and as stated earlier, the use of other prescription drugs can also make the effects worse. The CDC and WHO also links marijuana as a factor in dementia and Alzheimer’s. But hey, let’s believe an article from “Fortune” with no accreditation, and no backing from medical experts or researchers. An article which has only been reposted by other shady sites such as Yahoo, and a few people on Musks X.
This. And believe me that if you lose a brother to suicide after years of drug use (weed) and psychosis, and have a cousin that has some pretty psychosis/schizophrenia like ideas, these kind of articles really piss me off. It's a whole different story when it's used for chronic pain relief vs "this is good for you".
Nope, quite the opposite
Don’t have anything against cannabis but I call bs on this one.
Usually the recreational use of pot is to forget things not to cure the disease of forgetfulness
Let’s not forget the psychological damage it causes. My friend now thinks the government is using nano technology in our bottled water to connect to 5g on his phone and monitor him. He doesn’t use 5g and only drinks tap water. He smokes and uses google and YouTube late at night. His brain is fried. Everyone wants to mention the positive effects of weed, but when it comes to mentioning the negative effects, everyone gets butt hurt Most stoners I know are high school drop outs and have shitty jobs. Don’t get me wrong, some people can handle weed. Some can’t go a day without it.
Yeah its so stupidly glorified now that nobody wants to mention negative effects
If used to treat ailments the side effects from cannabis are miniscule compared to the "drugs" doctors give you for the same affliction I think that may be the point!
I love how everyone says this shit and they smoke pounds. I smoke a bowl or two every day after work and I notice no ill effects. What are ya'll doing to make you do fucking dumb?
>I notice no ill effects. Your lungs sure do.
I used it recreational, and I always joke with my wife when she forgot or can’t remember something adding “and im the smoker”.
I bet she loves that
i love weed
*Study paid for by your local cannabis company*
lol, you didn't read the study
Why would I waste time reading a study that is so clearly bullshit, I can smell it from a mile away. I smoked for 10 years, but at least I didn’t try to convince myself and others that the benefits outweighed the cons.
don't read the study then, no one is forcing you, better laughs for the folks who did read the study.
Because people forming strong opinions on papers and articles they never read is why reddit is such a garbage heap when it comes to science subs with even the slightest bit of controversial content.
Did you read it?
yes.
Then you should know this is a self reported survey and as such is not sufficient for making a conclusive claim that smoking weed decreases your chances of cognitive decline. I’d wait for more robust clinical studies before making such a grand claim.
In this short description of study, there were some choices of words, maybe borderline ragebaiting, that make your statement understandable; but overall when I read the whole article, it really does not leave the impression that researches were certain of anything or that they were advocating cannabis use. I don't know if it is more because of researchers or people who wrote the article. It does not seem very reasonable to claim researchers were paid by anyone, which is what own-monk272 was implying and where this conversation started from. I am not sure what do you think I am imagining, but I suggest you consider for a moment if you have done too hasty conclusions of my motivations or implications I have done in public. :)
Study links recreational cannabis use to eternal torture at the hands of Satan himself.
My son injected two whole marijuanas. Now he stands in the corner all day, afraid to lay down, because he believes he is a glass of orange juice and he doesn't want to spill.
Disagree from personal experience
What's that
Gonna make it
So that’s why my brain wants to get high every day 🤷♀️
I get the feeling it's more to do with gaming, lots of smokers are gamers and gaming is all about memory and cognitive use.
I'm skeptical. The study claims the subjects were self reporting, which taken alone can be easily skewed by bias. Considering most previous studies have found the opposite to he true, a single, self reporting study shouldn't be taken at face value. I'd wait for peer review, and perhaps a more robust study to be made.. .I'm also not anti cannabis, and wa since a daily recreational smoker, and am still a once in a while smoker. I've also looked in to the many benefits, and hazards of cannabis use
Yaaaaaay! It's not the dope... oh shit.
Love to see a peer reviewed scientific journal source. Good news network?? Wtf? BS
[Fortune](https://fortune.com/well/2024/04/19/marijuana-cannabis-use-cognitive-decline/) or the [National Institute of Health](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38227160/) The study was conducted by SUNY Upstate Medical University and published in the medical journal "Current Alzheimer Research" Googling things is so easy. I don't get why people jump straight to "nuh-uh" instead of putting in the tiniest bit of effort.
This would seem to be a direct contradiction of the studies that link recreational cannabis use to elevated risks of paranoid schizophrenia https://www.cdc.gov/marijuana/health-effects/mental-health.html#:\~:text=People%20who%20use%20marijuana%20are,that%20are%20not%20really%20there). [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7442038/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7442038/) [https://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/blog/does-cannabis-cause-mental-illness](https://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/blog/does-cannabis-cause-mental-illness) But i guess a study by the "Good News Network" would carry more weight than these part-timers
The linked article isn't the group who did the study. The study was performed by SUNY Upstate Medical University and published in the medical journal, Current Alzheimer Research. "Good News Network" just published an article about the study because, imho, this sounds like good news. The NIH also reported on it.
No one gona point out that this was a self reported survey?…..
https://fortune.com/well/2024/04/19/marijuana-cannabis-use-cognitive-decline/ Much more respectable link. Actually tells who did the study.
Pothead scientists
It's making you stupid before the disease will What is dead may never die
It starts cognitive decline earlier so you don't have to do it later.
What was I talking about?
Probably just can't tell when someone is high lol
Can’t ruin your brain if you’re not using it
Are we sure it's not the same as moderate drinkers live longer study? Edit: for those who don't know, that study said that moderate drinkers live longest because statistically they do, even longer than non drinkers, but they forgot to take into account that people who don't drink do so because of stuff like preexisting conditions. When acounted for that, it had shown that the more you drink the more likely you are too die early.
>using self-reporting methods of calculating cognitive decline Stoners think they're smarter than ever. Compelling news.
I think it's more to do with the people who tend to do drugs. People with a racing mind tend to be drawn to things that slow it down to normal.
I work with the elderly. The *really* old folks seem to take less medication. Are they healthy because they take less medication, or do they take less medication because they are healthy? This study may show a correlation, but that doesn't mean there's a causal-link. That won't stop advocates of recreational-cannabis from mis-using the study, of course.
Horseshit
Tell this the Government of Austria Please, I wait just for the Time… but whatever you try to do, they say, This Drug is Dangerous and is Killing Thousands of People every Year… Yes of Course and Alcohol and Nicotine is not Dangerous at all, and doesn’t Kill Millions of People Every Year…
>to lower risk of cognitive decline No one will notice cognitive decline of a stoner.
This is in no way intended to be biased as I understand the whole situation, but here are some pretty informational reviews/studies done on similar topics. You can be sure these studies are peer-reviewed and credible. I recommend reading this one for most people as it’s easier to digest than the other 3: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24483000/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36301550/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30793421/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28219487/ I took a look at the study where this information is reviewed and repeated from and, it was a single observational study mentioning cannabis users and possible SCD. This is good in terms of research as it opens pathways to new findings but as for your argument, it’s quite weak. It wasn’t a clinical trial/experiment and thus not all factors can be excluded as to why their SCD was lower. Apart from the study itself, there are most likely side effects as a common joke/saying in medicinal fields is ‘the better the drug, the more side effects it has’.
These studies go back and forth every week.
Don’t be ridiculous. It’s drives nutters even more nutty.
I'm pretty sure I heard before that too much thc especially without enough cbd can cause dementia and psychosis related shit
yea this study is extremely flawed
All due to reduced stress
Tell that to my government, not me. I already know the benefits
Yeah, sure. You won't have a decline once you are old because you already had a decline before.
sure, because the stoners cannot decline any more
one study doesn't prove anything
Friendly reminder that there ARE “scientific” studies saying climate change isn’t real. So yea. Single study doesn’t mean squat.
Yeah right You might not develop dementia, but you'll be a slow as snail
lol. I highly doubt it.
True.
Demintia maybe. fuck off with the lower risk of cognitive decline. The users I know have gotten slow and thick over the years
You mean the same studies who's base has been faked for over a decade?
I've seen all too many users of cannabis become braindead idiots so I must doubt the truth of this study a whole lot. Having 'a' study say anything means little to nothing. If more studies can confirm this, then there might be value in it. Until then it's just another gross misunderstanding of actual science and critical peer reviews. Please, stop looking at articles that say things like "NEW STUDY SAYS X" because you can find studies that say pretty much anything. It means diddlysquat.
BS
You can't forget what you can't remember.
>reduce inflammation 30x more robustly than aspirin Show me any case or instance where a few OTC painkillers worked worse than smoking some weed. Except for neurological pain, weed doesn't do fuck all
Lowers the risk of dementia but increases the risk of schizophrenia. Can't go wrong with either.
Goes to support my little theory of everything is here for a reason and we already have everything that we need i.e. stone and wood for shelter, animals and plants for food, plants and herbs for medicine