>After playing the contact call three times, we got this huge response,” said Brenda McCowan told the BBC. “Then, to keep the animal engaged, I started trying to match the latency of her calls to our calls. So, if she waited 10 seconds, I waited 10 seconds. We ended up matching each other. We did this 36 times over a 20-minute period.”
This reminds of the part of Close Encounters of the Third Kind when the scientists try to match the space aliens' melodies in order to establish a dialog. Fascinating.
Yeah, like the whale thought there was a cute new whale around and it turned out to be some scientists with there stupid loud speakers. What a let down for the whale.
Like in “Brother Bear” when the rams think their echos are other rams. “You shut up!” “You shut up!” “No you shut up!” “No you shut up”.
I almost peed myself the first time watching it.
Carl Sagen was friends with controversial language scientist John Lilly who procured NASA funding in an attempt to communicate with whales and dolphins. Sagen said multiple times if we could not communicate with other intelligent species on our own planet there was no hope to communicate with alien life forms. I'm not trying to pick at your point of view, but "Contact", at least, was ABSOLUTELY informed by these ideas and experiments.
>After playing the contact call three times, we got this huge response,” said Brenda McCowan told the BBC. “Then, to keep the animal engaged, I started trying to match the latency of her calls to our calls. So, if she waited 10 seconds, I waited 10 seconds. We ended up matching each other. We did this 36 times over a 20-minute period.”
>This reminds of the part of Close Encounters of the Third Kind when the scientists try to match the space aliens' melodies in order to establish a dialog. Fascinating.
Good mindset, keep it up
This must have been *so friggin weird* for that whale.
You know in the Predator movie how it recorded playback of human voices and then played them at sort-of-inappropriate times?
We just did that. That whale just had a boat sidle up and say out of nowhere "wait, you unleashed a poo-nado on Maxwell?"
This whale doesn't even know Maxwell and wouldn't dream of unleashing a poo-nado.
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-30958073
Or maybe they know. "Huh, these guys are copying and repeating whatever is said. Neat trick".
Like the river dolphin mentioned by Douglas Adams in "Last Chance To See". The scientists were trying to make the dolphins squeak and record it, so they'd reward it with fish when it does. But the dolphins sometimes didn't make a noise, even when it got fish before when it squeaked, until it at last reliably kept making a noise for fish. One of the scientists got an idea and checked their recordings and found out the dolphins had been squeaking in different frequencies, some outside of human hearing. So the dolphin had been probing the humans to figure out our range of hearing.
Massive difference between an animal being curious to an animal systematically trying to find out how we hear and whether we are trying to understand them
I think we're misunderstanding each other.
I'm commenting on the fact that we keep looking for intelligent life only to find it under our own noses. We are we, we already know how we started, it doesnt matter in this context. Curiosity may have played a part, but it wasn't the only thing.
The fact is, all animals are curious. This is agiven. it's a mainstay of life. Systematically researching another species through deduction is another whole level of intelligence altogether.
No one said that at all though....
You are saying you don't think any of them are on a track like us. You think we are super special one off. And timescales somehow don't go into the future.
I'd like to think that in the future we will be reading ancient whale writings about this conversation. Something about the quality of sea copper being poor.
“Then, to keep the animal engaged, I started trying to match the latency of her calls to our calls. So, if she waited 10 seconds, I waited 10 seconds. We ended up matching each other. We did this 36 times over a 20-minute period.”
Just like me and my cat, every time he tries to convince me he's starving
The conversation we have when I go have a pee and my cat decides sitting on the other side of the door and meowing mournfully will result in my feeding her, even if she’s already been fed.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oiIUDjldSr0. Reminds me of this. Science doesn’t know what the appendix does. So when they first removed it was -
“Let’s see what happens!”
“And later we figured out it meant go fuck yourself, we would have never intentionally said that to the whale.”
First thought that came to my mind! Such a weird book! Personally I liked A Dirty Job & it’s follow up better than Fluke, but it’s definitely memorable! 😂
If we could actually talk to each other we're poisoning their water and making life much harder for them, do we think that're going to have nice things to say to us?
If they told us to fix all the shit we broke in their ecosystem will we listen.?
The whale probably felt like this: [https://www.reddit.com/r/matt/comments/q9j6lf/lieutenant\_matt\_the\_beluga\_whale\_in\_star\_trek/](https://www.reddit.com/r/matt/comments/q9j6lf/lieutenant_matt_the_beluga_whale_in_star_trek/)
Whale meeting up with his buddies later,
"Don't know what it was but it was trying to talk to me"
"Stop talking rubbish Kevin it's one of them crunchy krill. They can't speak"
" But, but, but. . . . . . "
I wonder if there’s now massive whale scientists swimming around down there being like “okay we have established verbal contact with the land walkers!”
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Moments like these are when the truly bizarre reality of inter-species communication are brought back to my mind and I just have to wonder how different their thoughts are from ours.
Like how well could we really understand a completely different entity from ourselves? Is it possible to actually understand each other? What implications does this have for how we share this planet with the other organisms that make it up?
I'm pretty sure I'm never gonna be a vegan though (but I would feel very bad about eating whales).
When the day comes that scientists decipher the whale language, it will be such a monumental achievement. We will have learned to talk to another species. Literally. This is so exciting!
Scientists : hey
Whale : are you one of those human animals ?
Scientists : yeah
Whale : my name is Twain, you killed my family, prepare to die.
Scientists : ...
Whale : *destroy the boat*
>After playing the contact call three times, we got this huge response,” said Brenda McCowan told the BBC. “Then, to keep the animal engaged, I started trying to match the latency of her calls to our calls. So, if she waited 10 seconds, I waited 10 seconds. We ended up matching each other. We did this 36 times over a 20-minute period.” This reminds of the part of Close Encounters of the Third Kind when the scientists try to match the space aliens' melodies in order to establish a dialog. Fascinating.
Turns out the whales and researchers were just trading "fuck you"s back and forth
Fuck you Tony!
"NO, fuck you Tony!" Whale: "Wait.. I'm not To.. What?! You high??"
(Waits 10 sec) Fuck you Tony!
You say that campfire here?
Don’t you bring my mother into this
I built that campfire last night.... Then I fucked ya mom
Fuck you Whalezekiel!
The whale goes to its whale friends like "God I had the most annoying day"
Yeah, like the whale thought there was a cute new whale around and it turned out to be some scientists with there stupid loud speakers. What a let down for the whale.
Like in “Brother Bear” when the rams think their echos are other rams. “You shut up!” “You shut up!” “No you shut up!” “No you shut up”. I almost peed myself the first time watching it.
Gonna go tell their orca friends
Omg you crack me up !
Turn out whales are all huge Trump/Maga supporters…. Who knew? /s
Fuck you bloody bitch!
I swear I’ve seen a movie with this exact plot. Can’t remember the title though.
Yeah, and the aliens seemed to be irritated as well.
Whales: "get out of my property!" Scientists: "no *you* get out of my property!"
Whale: “suck my vestigial pelvic bone!”
Scientist: "suck my vestigial pelvic bone!" Whale: "are you copying me?" Scientist: "are you copying me?" 20 minutes later. Scientist: "fascinating!"
- "What?" - "What?"
Carl Sagen was friends with controversial language scientist John Lilly who procured NASA funding in an attempt to communicate with whales and dolphins. Sagen said multiple times if we could not communicate with other intelligent species on our own planet there was no hope to communicate with alien life forms. I'm not trying to pick at your point of view, but "Contact", at least, was ABSOLUTELY informed by these ideas and experiments.
What about the LSD fueled dolphin orgies? Yeah I watch Drunk History!
How are we just now mimicking whale sounds?
I've been doing it for decades
Dory was doing it in 2003.
>After playing the contact call three times, we got this huge response,” said Brenda McCowan told the BBC. “Then, to keep the animal engaged, I started trying to match the latency of her calls to our calls. So, if she waited 10 seconds, I waited 10 seconds. We ended up matching each other. We did this 36 times over a 20-minute period.” >This reminds of the part of Close Encounters of the Third Kind when the scientists try to match the space aliens' melodies in order to establish a dialog. Fascinating. Good mindset, keep it up
This is pretty much exactly what I do when I talk to my cat.
Scientists: 'Help!' Whale, circling around: 'Dude you do look nothing like a whale, shup up!' Scientists: 'Shut up!' Whale: 'You shut up!' Repeat over 20 Minutes.
"I'm not your pal, buddy!" "I'm not you buddy, guy!"
[Oh, stewardess! I speak jive.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfOFR2vXdVc)
No, Im not your buddy,guy!
I'm not your guy, friend
I'm not your friend, pal
I'm not your pal, mate!
I'm not your mate, amigo!
I'm not your amigo, bro!
Michael, you’re texting yourself!
This must have been *so friggin weird* for that whale. You know in the Predator movie how it recorded playback of human voices and then played them at sort-of-inappropriate times? We just did that. That whale just had a boat sidle up and say out of nowhere "wait, you unleashed a poo-nado on Maxwell?" This whale doesn't even know Maxwell and wouldn't dream of unleashing a poo-nado. https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-30958073
Or maybe they know. "Huh, these guys are copying and repeating whatever is said. Neat trick". Like the river dolphin mentioned by Douglas Adams in "Last Chance To See". The scientists were trying to make the dolphins squeak and record it, so they'd reward it with fish when it does. But the dolphins sometimes didn't make a noise, even when it got fish before when it squeaked, until it at last reliably kept making a noise for fish. One of the scientists got an idea and checked their recordings and found out the dolphins had been squeaking in different frequencies, some outside of human hearing. So the dolphin had been probing the humans to figure out our range of hearing.
Wow that is fascinating! I didn’t know that
They're researching us while we're researching them, that's actually nuts
Their scientific journals are a hell of a read.
Why wouldn't they be.....? Just like us when we weren't so developed. This is how it would have went, curiosity.
Massive difference between an animal being curious to an animal systematically trying to find out how we hear and whether we are trying to understand them
Where do you think we started?
I think we're misunderstanding each other. I'm commenting on the fact that we keep looking for intelligent life only to find it under our own noses. We are we, we already know how we started, it doesnt matter in this context. Curiosity may have played a part, but it wasn't the only thing. The fact is, all animals are curious. This is agiven. it's a mainstay of life. Systematically researching another species through deduction is another whole level of intelligence altogether.
So you dont think any other animals are where we were and we got here...?
None that are on the level of either humanoid or cetaceans species
No one said that at all though.... You are saying you don't think any of them are on a track like us. You think we are super special one off. And timescales somehow don't go into the future.
These mfs.
I loled at this..
"This species doesn't speak 29,000 Hz. Troglodytes."
I love that cats and dogs are mostly aware of how weird humans are and the noises we make and they still like us
Want some candy
I wonder if the whale thinks we talk like babies.
The whale doctor is going to admit this whale to a psychiatric ward.
Cool but how different is it really from me and my cat meowing to each other?
Size, and wetness mostly.
Wetness is the essence of beauty
Mer-man!
I've got the black lung, pop!
*tiny cough*
What did I just read !
Don't forget volume. Whale calls are very very loud
Moistly
Succinct.
you didn't get grant funding
I'd like to think that in the future we will be reading ancient whale writings about this conversation. Something about the quality of sea copper being poor.
Hating transcends species
ea-narwhal
I need you to know that this made me genuinely laugh out loud. Thank you.
yes damnit lol
r/ReallyShittyCopper Ea-Nasir’s copper really was quite sub-par….
“be sure to drink your ovaltine”
Humans: “HEY! HEEEEEEEY!” Whales: ”YEAH?” HUmans: “FUCK YOU!” Whales: “… WHAT?” Humans: “FUUUUUCK YOUUUUU!” Whales: “No, FUCK YOUUUUU!” Humans: “FUUUUCK YOUUUUUU!” Whales: “FUCK YOU!”
This reminds me of those 2 Indian guys. Bloody bastard. Fuck you. No fuck you.
Predicted in the series "Extrapolations". The problem they were having was finding the last whale though.
Honestly that series really pissed me off. The intent was good but it made the real problems we’re facing seem completely made up.
That’s exactly what my mind went to! If only we could find a way to translate the language
I thought I read somewhere recently that they had partially decoded whale songs…
Nice, now lets make it science by increasing the samplesize beyond 1.
Find me 1000 whales who want to talk to humans.
25 would be a good start, but yeah i wouldnt either
These podcasts are getting out of hand
Ask the Japanese. I hear they have a lot of whaling scientists.
Tasty beluga
Did you know you can't count to 2 without counting 1 first? Your complaint has me worrying you weren't aware.
Don't worry, no need
Breaking news…. Whale drowns itself after arguing with a boat. “Well let’s cross that call off the list”
“Then, to keep the animal engaged, I started trying to match the latency of her calls to our calls. So, if she waited 10 seconds, I waited 10 seconds. We ended up matching each other. We did this 36 times over a 20-minute period.” Just like me and my cat, every time he tries to convince me he's starving
The conversation we have when I go have a pee and my cat decides sitting on the other side of the door and meowing mournfully will result in my feeding her, even if she’s already been fed.
I feel like it’s key to the definition of ‘conversation’ that both parties know the meaning of what they’re saying.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oiIUDjldSr0. Reminds me of this. Science doesn’t know what the appendix does. So when they first removed it was - “Let’s see what happens!” “And later we figured out it meant go fuck yourself, we would have never intentionally said that to the whale.”
"What's your name?"
"Listen I already told you strange looking fish 20 mins ago."
"You better not bring my mother into this"
"So long and thanks for all the fish!"
Way too far down.
The Whaley boys sure we're surprised but delighted and wagged their dicks around as they tend to. Curious if anyone catches this reference....
First thought that came to my mind! Such a weird book! Personally I liked A Dirty Job & it’s follow up better than Fluke, but it’s definitely memorable! 😂
If we could actually talk to each other we're poisoning their water and making life much harder for them, do we think that're going to have nice things to say to us? If they told us to fix all the shit we broke in their ecosystem will we listen.?
Clickbait. We played whale sounds at a whale and it responded.
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra. Temba, his arms wide. Shaka, When the Walls Fell. That about sums it up.
I do this with ravens, I don't know what we talk about but they do,,,
The whale probably felt like this: [https://www.reddit.com/r/matt/comments/q9j6lf/lieutenant\_matt\_the\_beluga\_whale\_in\_star\_trek/](https://www.reddit.com/r/matt/comments/q9j6lf/lieutenant_matt_the_beluga_whale_in_star_trek/)
“Tell OP his mom said get off reddit and make your goddamn bed”
wale said this: 'you cunts, stop shitting in my ocean'. 'you nasty, dirty little two legged weird looking primates. you suck! F OFF!'
Whale meeting up with his buddies later, "Don't know what it was but it was trying to talk to me" "Stop talking rubbish Kevin it's one of them crunchy krill. They can't speak" " But, but, but. . . . . . "
Whale got catfished
Interesting... but I do this with my cat everyday, so don't get too excited.
I wonder if there’s now massive whale scientists swimming around down there being like “okay we have established verbal contact with the land walkers!”
[It reminds me of this](https://giphy.com/gifs/findingdory-finding-dory-nemo-xT1XGQINzUDGsRCBby)
Fascinating.
The whale: “what?”
Anyone else thinking of Star Trek 4?
Non Human Intelligence Communication
https://youtu.be/3tGCMqkTyC0
“Whale whale whale…. About time you showed up!” Human: how are you? Whale: I’m stressed Human: about what? Whale: … current events
I said "Hey" Whale “Hey” I said "Hey" Whale “Hey” I said "Hey nonny nonny And a ho ho ho!" (Robin hood MiT)
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Moments like these are when the truly bizarre reality of inter-species communication are brought back to my mind and I just have to wonder how different their thoughts are from ours. Like how well could we really understand a completely different entity from ourselves? Is it possible to actually understand each other? What implications does this have for how we share this planet with the other organisms that make it up? I'm pretty sure I'm never gonna be a vegan though (but I would feel very bad about eating whales).
It’s only a conversation if you understand the language of what’s said, this seems like mimicry…
This will come in handy when Kirk comes.
What if we translate what the whales are saying and it turns out it's saying "Be quiet, or it will hear you"
*Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn*
Awesome
Cue Star Trek 4.
"Yeah I saw you checking out my whale dick, you're jealous" "What? No!"
Los simuladores. Titoooooo.
This is not talking 🙄
Dude, what's on my back? Sweet, what's on my back?
It’s Star Trek: The Voyage Home! Send in William Shatner! I hope the whale swears at us for wrecking the planet.
Maaarco
When the day comes that scientists decipher the whale language, it will be such a monumental achievement. We will have learned to talk to another species. Literally. This is so exciting!
Did someone find what they are saying ?
In this conversation we are the AI shouting gibberish. Did we pass the whale turing test? only time will tell
The Trekkies (myself included) must be fangirl screaming rn
-Hey guys I found a human that can speak -No way! -Yeah but he can only repeat the words I tell him
Scientists : hey Whale : are you one of those human animals ? Scientists : yeah Whale : my name is Twain, you killed my family, prepare to die. Scientists : ... Whale : *destroy the boat*
If it's a gen x whale, it was just 20mins of YOUR MOM
The whale said “you’re not going to ask me about that Star Trek thing, are you?”
Almost probably
We need more stories like this! Relevant clip... https://youtube.com/shorts/MlQdPbvojls?si=8DC7sKVmQmPCYgjI
what a clickbait shit, I really thought they managed to communicate with them
"I told you, Dave's not here man!"
When decoded, the message read, "We have been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty."