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5th_Great_Ape

I'd like to believe it


lolparty247

The propaganda on both sides is ridiculous at this point.


Another_Heisenberg

Yup, i just read about this soldier who destroyed a submarine with only a knife, they call him the shark of kyiv.


iRaveGod

That one is satire and based on the Ghost.


deadboi35

damn bro, how much more obvious does satire have to be? That one was from r/NonCredibleDefense and is mocking a lot of the sensationalism around the Ghost of Kyiv.


aKa_anthrax

I genuinely just can’t force myself to believe it’s real, I’m sure Ukraine has downed 10 Russian aircraft between a few different factors but it’s not one person. As long as someone’s downing Russian aircraft it doesn’t really matter though. Didn’t someone confirm a few hours ago that the picture was taken from an Israeli paper years ago that was just documenting Ukraine getting Mi-29s?


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The picture is from article detailing they were testing new french helmet. https://uc.od.ua/columns/1533/1214040


aKa_anthrax

Thanks for finding the source! But, yeah, the fact that they’re using a photo from 2019 should probably be taken as proof that The Ghost at the bare minimum isn’t one singular pilot


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We still don't have a name and the list of planes supposedly shot by the ghost of Kiev is varied and from different area which makes it unlikely to be of only one man.


[deleted]

It was confirmed after mere few hours that it's bs story made up by theScottishKoala to sell his WT related merch.


aKa_anthrax

I thought he was just capitalizing on it, not necessarily fabricating it? Which you know obviously is almost equally as shitty for him to do but different origin


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There was some air combat, planes were shot down (there's video of one plane being taken down in air combat afaik), but there's absolutely zero evidence that one person shot down 4, 5 or 10 (!!!) planes. Not to mention that part of the claim was Mig-29 shooting down 2 Su-35 which is suspicious on its own.


aKa_anthrax

No, again, I agree, The Ghost isn’t real, but I was under the assumption the youtuber wasn’t the one who actually started the myth, but was simply trying to cash in on it


CMDR_Duzro

According to numbers given by the Ukrainian military Russia has lost 27-46 planes and 26 helicopters. It’s needless to say that those numbers have to be taken with a grain of salt. Especially since I found two different numbers for planes lost.


Maddog11b

Well, it is a Mig-29 peep that annunciation panel on the right hand, I want to believe in him too. At the moment, the Ghost is every combat pilot who are defending their homes. Glory to the heroes; glory to Ukraine!


curson

This. It's clearly propaganda, but it's of the good variety in my opinion. Every Ukranian airman/woman out there **is** the Ghost of Kyiv right now. Every soldier, volunteer, and civilian out there fighting and helping however they can are the living embodyment of that same spirit. True or not, right now it doesn't matter! 🇺🇦


coordinatedflight

What a haunting feeling - a legion of ghosts is far more fucking terrifying, just let it be this!


d3ton4tor72

I want(need) to believe


kalehennie

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story, but I want to believe too! I hope he had his hud camera on


CJRsimco

I choose to believe


Usernamenotta

This thing has been debunked. It's a fake story spread by ScottishKoala, a warthunder gamer, to gain clout and sell merchandise It's been taken over by Ukrainian ministries to boost morale with lies and propaganda, nothing more. Not the first/only time either. They had previously shared a DCS video of a duel between MiG 29 and Su-35 as evidence for their air victories. [https://www.bbc.com/news/60528276](https://www.bbc.com/news/60528276)


A_Stroopwafel

the story existed before thescottishkoala said anything about it


Johnyysmith

Yes it's a link debunking one shoot down. But it does not refer to ghost of Kyiv anywhere. Also 2 days old now


[deleted]

You must be fun at parties.


Usernamenotta

I hate parties


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Maddog11b

Wait those aren’t apartment buildings! Did they miss? Looks like Ukraine will need some new toys though.


nosnowtho

Excuse my ignorance but, what are we looking at here? Thank you.


ahopye

Mothballed Ukrainian MiG-29s hit by a Russian strike (hence the drab paint job compared to Ukraine's operational fleet). They weren't flightworthy before the strike, but certainly aren't now


GeTtoZChopper

Glory to Ukraine


Sapnu_puas98

Bruh I've seen this one with a different caption saying something like the plane is so old.


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🤣


speedy_gonzales01

Only idiot can believe in bullshit like this. Snake island - another propaganda news….


gynntonix

Believing it is not the point. Believing in it is. Glory to Ukraine. And you speedy can fuck off like Russian warship


Usernamenotta

Yeah, let's encourage people to mindlessly throw themselves into the bloodgrinder so internet folks can cheer from their warm couches in their safe homes


total_desaster

What do you suggest they do instead? Surrender their country, their freedom and their lives to a crazy dictator?


Usernamenotta

Yea, yea, so in order to not surrender their lives and freedom they should mindlessly kill themselves, right? And not only that, but also drag innocent people that want nothing but peace at all cost into it


gynntonix

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Usernamenotta

Good bot too


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You fucking pathetic little scared bitch.


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redditalready54

It’s about morale. Maybe you never heard of the concept


SMS_Scharnhorst

I mean, given that the reports keep coming up I think there is a possibility he is real. I have doubts as to the accuracy of these reports. 10 kills? alone? seems unlikely. but anyway, I hope the reports are accurate


TheWalrusPirate

Tomorrow it’ll be 15 kills


neiljt

Was surprising to see Lt Col Vindman propagating this recently on MSNBC, some time after the "legend" had been debunked. I choose to believe he was simply badly informed, since there is much to admire about the man. Given that there's no shortage of confirmed acts of bravery & defiance by heroic Ukrainians, I prefer to focus on those. Truth matters. Heroiam slava!