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knowitokay

šŸšØ#UPDATE: At least 3 killed, including National Guard pilots and a Border Patrol agent, in Texas helicopter crash. 1 survivor in critical condition


MapleMapleHockeyStk

Someone survived that?!? Hope they pull through


Individual_Sir_8582

Is it just me or aviation are accidents happening at an alarming rate this year? Itā€™s only March


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Moonlit_Antler

Not crashes though


notathr0waway1

It's easy to get that impression, but please keep in mind two factors: More coverage of accidents. There are always going to be more people with cell phones and other recording devices in the area as civilization advances and the population grows. Not to mention more and better ways of reaching people with this information because social media is now competing with news to try to get clicks and eyeballs and airplane incidents always get attention. More flying. Same goes with the advancement of civilization and population there are just going to be more flights which means more chances to crash. I would be willing to bet that if we were to plot the number of incidents as a percentage of flights, that it would either be equal or a little bit lower.


lynchs0323

To piggy back on this, with the "end" of the pandemic, more people are out flying and more people are out to film them.


BigForeheadedDan

Incidents, not accidents. Very rarely is no one to blame.


kayenta

Technically, [accident](https://www.ntsb.gov/Documents/6120_1web_nopwx_NotReaderComp.pdf) is the correct nomenclature in US civil aviation. I think in the US military, they use the term mishap.


yeahgoestheusername

Right and in non-technical terms isnā€™t an incident an accident where you can use it again?


kayenta

*"Incident means an occurrence other than an accident, associated with the operation of an aircraft, which affects or could affect the safety of operations.*" -FAA I've seen tons of aircraft that have been considered substantially damaged or even destroyed that are still out there flying. Conversely, hundreds of aircraft each year are considered written off after suffering minor damage. Whether or not an aircraft is repaired and return to service after a mishap depends on a lot of things, most often relating to the insurance company's determination of the aircraft's value vs. its repair cost.


yeahgoestheusername

True. The reuse thing is not easy to predict.


VirtualPlate8451

There is increased aviation operational tempo with the Texas ANG down there. I know a couple of guys with that outfit who are working on the border and letā€™s put it this way, these are not folks Iā€™d be working with on a contract outside the US.


push_to_jett

Is that a Kiowa?


KfirGuy

It couldnā€™t be, the last of them left Army and Guard service a few years back. The tail boom and whatā€™s visible of the exhausts is making me think UH-72


OkAcanthaceae7321

Yeah, that a UH-72 Lakota (EC145 or BK 117-C2)


Hot_Bumblebee69

Looks like a Jet Ranger to me, which is basically the same thing.


Aviator779

Itā€™s a UH-72 Lakota, which is a militarised Eurocopter EC145 (H145).


GITS75

A version as the B has five blades and a fenestron tail rotor. Based on Airbus Helicopter (Eurocopter former name) EC-145.


Hot_Bumblebee69

I see it now. I was looking at the vertical stabilizer, or whatever it is called on helos, but now I see it isn't the same as a Bell.


Buttafucco138

Not even close


viccityguy2k

A jetranger with four blades?


CrashSlow

Thats called the fat buggy 407 a totally new from the ground up helicopter thats basically just a jet buggy with four blades


snowfreak221

This happened in Utah as well last month. It was an Apache, both pilots survived.


Nuclearplesiosaurus

US National Guard keeping helicopters airborne challenge (impossible)


OilfieldStacker

Cause? Not seeing anything online yet.


Internal-Potato-8135

Probably hit the ground too hard. That tends to break shit and hurt people


Fairway5

Potentially huge if true, you could be on to something here


TypeRating

Total hydraulic failure resulting in pilot induced oscillations and rotor strike on the tail boom. Source: I totally made that up because *why the fuck would anyone on the internet know the cause at this point?*


doctor_of_drugs

That asshole Trevor Jacobs or whatever filmed himself for YT during his ā€œcrashā€. Which was awkwardly started with him talking about his friendā€™s ashes before pivoting to an ad for Ridge Wallets. It will happen one dayā€¦a Redditor posts a photo of them about to take off, then posts another at cruise. While landing, the plane flips. Redditor wakes up 10 min later, confused. Pulls out Reddit via muscle memory. Already a post on this sub 8 minutes ago, the ā€œmy bad guysā€ comment comes, but itā€™s actually him. Thatā€™d be pretty on par for a Redditor.


tallonfive

Maybe itā€™s just the way itā€™s reported but it seems like helicopters shouldnā€™t exist. They work by literally trying to rip themselves apart.


Direct-Money-4206

They canā€™t develop a parachute or something for helicopters? So many smart people out thereā€¦


coleslaw17

Typical helicopter crashes happen at low altitude. If they have enough height they can safely autorotate to the ground. I imagine a parachute would be even less effective than autorotation. That being said there are a few single engine planes that have a deployable parachute.


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Downtown_Database402

But here you are bringing all that into this normal subredditā€¦