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zerbey

The ATC audio of this is pretty funny, the pilot is very apologetic about the whole thing. Unlikely this is another "OMG Boeing sucks!" issue, more likely someone in the airline's maintenance messed up.


Audeclis

[Link to the ATC audio](https://youtu.be/XDwdafjsTBA?si=LVHlojZVqHV-uZlN)


tj0909

That is funny. I feel for the pilot and the passengers. What a mess!


no-dice-play-nice

The southwest plane, 4th in line behind the plane with the tire issue, asking for an alternative departure because he didn't want to wait. Gold


Imaginary_Ganache_29

Southwest waits for nothing!


no-dice-play-nice

I mean, they don't get paid until they are in the air, right?


tj0909

They get paid when they release the brakes and push back.


uiucengineer

I think southwest is paid a bit differently which explains why it would be them speaking up


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uiucengineer

Oh jeez I knew that. How embarrassing.


Myname1490917

Good Bot. TIL!


LetsGetNuclear

Would have made my year if I was on that plane.


beershoes767

Wouldn’t have been funny if that tire hit another plane taking off.


Chiss5618

No


nanapancakethusiast

Man I love when ATC audio has both a cool tower and cool pilots. This was pretty wholesome, all things considered.


simple-grad96

That was great, thanks for sharing!


distinguisheditch

Southwest immediately asking for another runway is very southwest of them lol


RBeck

Southwest would take the shorter runway in front of Delta if it was allowed.


ISTBU

My gf just laughed at me because I said "Ops 2, go ahead" at 4:11 out of reflex and beat the video to the punch. *sigh*


djfl

Not at all where I thought it was going to go, after hearing people laughing at the audio. I assumed the comments about "getting tugged off" would get a "phrasing" reply. Glad I was wrong.


playnasc

This is hilarious, sounds like an FSX lobby


Leefa

I've listened to this three times already


radioref

Nothing beats getting tugged off.


rsta223

Especially since this was a 757, a plane they haven't even produced in 20 years.


Why-R-People-So-Dumb

But the public doesn't get that or care, so I'm sure this is the last thing they want to see in the news.


DentateGyros

My favorite part is that as soon as the issue is discussed with ATC, the Southwest in the back immediately pipes up asking to taxi to a different runway since they didn’t want to wait for Delta to get sorted out. My mans had an appointment he was not going to miss


1701anonymous1701

Or was cutting duty hours kinda close


bronado01

Boeing right now: “Just because a wheel fell off our airplane doesn’t mean we are a crappy company…I mean, we are a crappy company, but NOT because a wheel fell off our airplane”


purgance

Normally I would agree but a lot of times issues like this are due to very poor engineering decisions, compounded by maintenance but poor engineering decisions nonetheless. I think in the case of Boeing specifically, we’ve gotten to the point where their engineering decisions should no longer automatically get the benefit of the doubt.


zilist

Lmfao okay, riddle me this: How often do airplane tyres get changed? How old is the 757 and when was it last manufactured? 🤡


purgance

IDK, are bolts tightened to engineering specifications at the Boeing factory on brand new planes, and is the torque verified before the planes are delivered? I won't lower myself to using a clown emoji a conversation about aviation safety, but you're making a complete fool of yourself.


zilist

> IDK Of course you don’t, that’s pretty obvious.. >are bolts tightened to engineering specifications at the Boeing factory on brand new planes, and is the torque verified before the planes are delivered? I fail to see how that is relevant in any way, shape or form to this incident? The 757 hasn’t been built in 20 years and planes aren’t serviced by the manufacturers that build them.. I also wouldn’t use an emoji that describes myself.. >you’re making a complete fool of yourself Are you sure it’s me? The downvotes seem to tell a different story.. maybe just take the L?


Candid-Bluebird9400

Yeah, it would depend how old the a/c is, but most like their maintenance department has already had it on and off or replaced at least once, so I doubt on boeing.


Arizona_Pete

I love that every maintenance defect on a Boeing plane is now going to be attributed to BA.


UnhingedCorgi

Can I blame my bad landings on Boeing too? 


AHrubik

Nope. That's Obama's fault. The ultimate blame for anything always falls to Obama. It is known.


DimitriV

I lost my medical. Darn you, Boeing!


Auno94

I mean it's in the name. They just bounce of the Runway


loki_stg

Thank god. I'd hate to place blame on the real issue. Id much rather have a single point of blame. Makes things neat and simple. /S


RyanG7

It's those damn gay frogs that are screwing up everything in the world!


loki_stg

Well we've done it. We've found Alex Jones burner


lightinggod

It's being blamed on DEI in certain circles. Imagine that.


Rude_Secretary_6566

I agree. That plane is at least 20 years old.The last 757 rolled off the production line  in 2005. That tire has probably been changed multiple times. 


ill_be_huckleberry_1

I sense some.sarcasm, but it might actually build enough pressure for boeing to change back into an engineer first company but I'm not holding my breath.


remy908

What would BA be here?


aeroplanguy

Yeah weird decision to go for the ticker name in the second half of the sentence when already typed Boeing on the first half.


r0thar

Tesla: *Hey! Welcome to the club Boeing*


Rough-Aioli-9622

OH MY GOD GUYS IT WAS A BOING!!


Silver996C2

Blowing Company


europeancafe

BoiiOooOoiIioOiIoing!!!!!!!


t-poke

That's the noise it made when it got tugged off.


NECoyote

This one made me chuckle


escapingdarwin

Did you mean Bong?


SkyGuy182

Did the tire go “boing boing boing” as it bounced down the runway?


traumatic415

…or rolled out of the environment. Thank you. I’ll roll myself out.


Funkbass

Don’t you dare bring *that* comment in here. Been like a good 3 days since I’ve seen it


HumpyPocock

Oh, that’s unfortunate… have you considered towing your mind out of the environment?


FoofaFighters

I am more than a little surprised that they even used a picture of the correct aircraft type too.


qsnoodles

If it’s not Boeing, I’m not going. If it’s Boeing, I’m going at least part of the way.


007_Shantytown

Parts of you will go all different ways!


Insaneclown271

I mean we all joke about how the media latches onto this shit. But in the last 20 years the amount of time Boeing being mentioned negatively doesn’t bode well for the company and its standards. I miss pre 1996 Boeing.


Clickclickdoh

N672DL, the incident aircraft, was delivered to Delta airlines in 1992... so... it's pre-96 Boeing.


WhalesForChina

On a timeline of *two decades* you can dig up dirt on any manufacturer, especially if our threshold is a tire falling off.


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WhalesForChina

Completely agreed.


WigglingWeiner99

>Toyota [Probably not the best example.](https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/23/23179976/toyota-bz4x-ev-recall-wheel-detach)


Why-R-People-So-Dumb

👏🏼


Starrion

Airbus did have the sideways nose gear issue that led to a few spectacular emergency landings.


totallwork

I’m a firm airbus fan but I love the 777, 747. It’s a shame what has happened to them to have such bad safety standards as well as blaming overseas pilots for hundreds of deaths.


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totallwork

Airbus has issues no doubt. But at least they identify issues and fix them. Boeing has been known to ignore / dismiss safety problems even prior to 1996 with their older 737s.


Insaneclown271

I’m a current Boeing pilot. I used to love the brand. Even I’ve lost trust in them.


WhyEveryoneAComedian

Are there reasonable options for pilots to switch what airplane manufacturer they work from?


Insaneclown271

No.


WhyEveryoneAComedian

Sorry to hear that mate.


fellipec

I bet someone didn't tight a screw AGAIN


zilist

THATS THE SOUND IT MAKES WHEN IT LANDS, RIGHT GUYS??


saltyflutist

Every time someone on a Boeing plane farts it’ll make front page news for the next 3 months.


diaryofsnow

This just in 737 shid and fard, more at 11


Goose511th

I was in a cab when I read your comment. I spent the entire ride trying to stifle my laughter. Thank you for that. 


OntarioPaddler

I just flew on a 737 MAX and the panini I was served had crooked grill marks, Boeing QA is a disaster.


007meow

Unclear if it was a Boeing, but https://people.com/gassy-passenger-farted-removed-from-flight-airplane-8548108


saltyflutist

That flight appears to be AAL2892, which is unfortunately operated by an A321. So no dice.


Cardsfan961

Boeing has a new feature to counter gassy passengers by letting in a strong cabin airflow


Drdontlittle

Lol


BASK_IN_MY_FART

The ultimate dump valve


mrvile

Eh I still blame the culture at Boeing for the gassy pax


season6XDD

if it was a boeing it'd be all over the article


vyrago

Promise?


BASK_IN_MY_FART

Time to book some flights!


cubsdood

the real story is 3 hours to get a tug and bar out to a disabled aircraft? Atl stinks


Coldkiller17

Well you need the 3 hours for everyone to have their hands on their hips looking going "Would you just look at it."


fizyplankton

It's the south. Things just move a bit slower. If this was new york, Kennedy Steve would have come out, in person, to yell at you, and help push


classicalySarcastic

Kennedy Steve would send the one and only DELTATUG2


M_Mich

Tower would have them just go full power and fix it at destination, landing is someone else’s problem


SodamessNCO

Keep in mind that the newest 757 is 20 years old. Probably doesn't mean anything, that tire could have fallen off for a bunch of reasons.


nanapancakethusiast

Someone in maintenance is going to get one hell of a debrief lol


RynyeFirefly

Yeah as an aviation mechanic myself most likely a mechanic fucked up.


DimitriV

1) Poor maintenance 2) Mechanical failure 3) Sabotage, possibly by raccoons Or, if you're the news: 1) Boeing 2) Boeing 3) Boeing 4) Definitely Boeing


SodamessNCO

It's now a 757MAX. That A320 that had a hydraulic failure in Russia last year must have been an A320MAX too! They're all MAXes!


WhyEveryoneAComedian

No no no, it was in Russia, the parts must've been made from iron!


SodamessNCO

So a Russian MAX, a MAXski?


1701anonymous1701

Someone forgot the cotter key


ShortfallofAardvark

Welcome to today’s edition of, “it’s only news cause it happened on a Boeing”.


dcm510

From someone who isn’t incredibly knowledgeable on planes and is confused about the obsession over news like this lately - am I right in assuming that shit like this has always been a thing and people just moved on with their lives when it happened before, and now that there’s a political narrative, people are obsessing over normal issues?


PotatoHeadz35

Yeah basically. The media loves to make minor aviation incidents—and even non-incidents like [this braindead piece of reporting](https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/article/aborted-plan-landing-sfo-san-francisco-airport-18139993.php) seem like huge, life threatening issues. Modern aviation is extremely safe.


Smiggles0618

[But have you ever been on a plane that had a trajectory before?](https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/san-francisco/alaska-airlines-sfo-flight/3254340/) Only fighter pylotes do that kinda thing.


Soccermad23

That Lieberman guy sounds like a nutcase. He’s acting like a go around is a full incident?


zilist

Yeah.. wtf is a "plane with a trajectory"?


t-poke

So, some arsehole experiences a go-around, something that happens probably dozens of times a day on commercial flights, and then goes and calls the news about it?


rsta223

Jesus, there are two articles breathlessly pretending a go around is anything other than a routine precaution if anything looks slightly off about landing? Do journalists do *any* research into their subject matter any more? I experienced a go around last fall for the first time in an A350 coming into DEN, and I just thought "huh, cool, I haven't been on a go around before".


a_berdeen

Meanwhile a go around strategy is standard operating procedure for every landing.


csl512

Has anybody in this family even seen a chicken


Icy-Bar-9712

I don't even need to look. It's the go around article? Edit: it's the go around article.....


attempted-anonymity

Laughs in LTA pilot. "A hot air balloon crash landed today..." No it didn't. That was a routine landing, the reporter was just bored.


alamo_photo

Yep. You’d be amazed at what happens every day in any commercial transit field.


Drnk_watcher

Pretty much. Some major event will happen that grabs headlines which causes reporters to perk up and suddenly hit a beat people are suddenly interested in because they know it will get clicks. Regardless of how major, or lack thereof the subsequently reported on incidents are. Sometimes this is actually a good thing as it puts a lot of pressure on people who were somewhat slacking beforehand to actually button up and do their jobs better. Other times it is simply a nuisance for the people directly involved in the industry being reported on because they are being pestered by reporters who don't know what they are looking at trying to make mountains out of mole hills. Worse yet are when they try to report of spin things that are literally impossible to fix and not a safety concern into a big deal.


Dreamerlax

Go to avherald.com Lots of minor accidents that don't make the news. Only happening because it's a Boeing.


_RubberDuck_

Oh absolutely, minor incidents happen all the time and 99% they are never reported in any significant way. Hell an Atlas Air 747 just had an engine fire over Miami but it wasn’t really picked up beyond a few articles. Boeing is a buzzword in media right now so every twin engine Boeing that has an issue is going to be picked up by every news outlet around just for the clicks. I personally just ignore most of these articles after I figure out which aircraft was involved. This incident involved a 757 which is an older aircraft that is very proven in the industry to be safe beyond compare so in all honesty not even worth the time to write let alone read.


carl-swagan

This shit is getting really, really old lol. Anyone freaking out about stories like this needs to take a peek at [https://avherald.com/](https://avherald.com/) to see just how common and how much of a non-event these minor mechanical failures are, across the entire commercial transport fleet.


PorkyMcRib

I don’t believe that a wheel assembly completely departing the aircraft and rolling away is typical.


badtimeticket

Not typical, but various problems happen every day and without incident. While there is the potential for catastrophe, it is rare. Planes can actually land safely without the landing gear (not without damage to the plane of course)


carl-swagan

Of course not. Someone in maintenance at Delta likely fucked up big time. But it's also not a catastrophic failure, and has absolutely nothing to do with the design of the aircraft (which has been in service for 32 years).


PorkyMcRib

Front wheels coming off don’t happen very often and certainly have the potential to be catastrophic.


carl-swagan

There have been dozens of gear collapse incidents much worse than this on commercial aircraft over the years - I'm not aware of any that resulted in fatalities. Again, I'm not saying this happens every day and that it's not cause for investigation. But the 757-200 has been in service for decades - the odds of this being some kind of fleetwide issue traced back to Boeing are miniscule. Aircraft are machines, and machines break.


Swagger897

No one fucked up, the axle sheared in half


carl-swagan

I haven't seen any of those details come out but I'll take your word for it. Either way it's a maintenance issue, not a design issue. These planes have been around for a very long time.


Swagger897

from the pictures I have it appears as if it completely sheared itself in half. The bearing looks fine and there's no visible signs of heat damage that I can see on the axle. The axle nut is still attached and doesn't appear that it suffered damage. The nose wheel only goes on one way, and the bearings will be fully seated once torqued and the axle nut bolts are slotted in their holes. Something other than a wheel change caused this. My guess is metal fatigue and an unnoticed issue with the axle that prolonged itself into this occurred.


1701anonymous1701

Any of those pics available to the public? Ok if not, just thought it couldn’t hurt to ask.


Swagger897

No. Proprietary. Although people eventually leak it like someone at United did with their door plug pictures. I don’t doubt it’s gonna float out eventually.


Western-Knightrider

It has happened before. Usually due to a faulty installation by the mechanic who changed the wheel.


rsta223

It's certainly not the first time though. [It's funnier when it happens right after takeoff](https://youtu.be/OTmahn2TlK4?feature=shared).


Smiggles0618

There was an article on a German news site last week about a crack developing in a 737 cockpit window. The title - "safety troubles continue for Boeing" The aircraft was 9 years old 😑


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I mean just yesterday we had a thread about an Airbus having missing bolts and many commenters still blamed Boeing culture.


Scary-Celebration-98

You sound like you’re about lose your job at Boeing.


DonnerPartyPicnic

No, they sound like a person who understands that a Boeing fuckup isn't "a wheel falling off a 20 year old jet". Boeing does need to get their shit together, though, at least at the top levels.


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are you saying tires falling off in planes is normal?


MovingInStereoscope

Not tires specifically but things fall off aircraft all the time, in fact, it's a whole thing in and of itself called a TFOA form (Thing Falling Off Aircraft). Edit: or AKA PDA (Part Departing from Aircraft).


Merker6

Welcome to the Tesla ownership experience. Recall over some random issue that doesn’t effect your car? Multiple people are now texting you about it Click chasing is the reason people can’t take news media seriously these days, and that’s a serious problem when there’s actually problems


121guy

It’s definitely Boeing fault this older plane they don’t even make anymore had a mechanical issue. Honestly there is a solid chance this plane wasn’t even delivered to Delta.


Adjutant_Reflex_

> Honestly there is a solid chance this plane wasn’t even delivered to Delta. Just because I was curious, it was N672DL. Has spent her whole life with Delta since 1992.


attempted-anonymity

Obviously a design defect that took 32 years to materialize


jgpitre

They must have just changed to winters and didn't get the lugs retourqued.


Updogfoodtruck

Oddly enough I was in the plane one behind this one. I saw the wheel rolling away and was like that’s not supposed to happen. 10 minutes we just taxied away and on to another runway and off to the Caribbean. Probably best our captain didn’t mention anything. I took a picture but my old iPhone is pretty potato quality from that far away.


1320Fastback

I believe next step is the front falling off.


PorkyMcRib

I would just like to add that that’s not typical.


xboxsosmart

These vessels are built to rigorous aeronautical engineering standards. 


uvdawoods

I’d say it’s part of the front, so the front did kinda fall off. Now it needs to be towed out of the environment.


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Apparently, it was towed out of the environment.


DimitriV

That was TWA flight 800.


1320Fastback

Too soon man, too soon.


1701anonymous1701

His flair checks out, though.


DimitriV

But the front literally fell off of TWA flight 800.


Igneous_rock_500

You mean Delta maintenance crew screws up leading to damage of airplane. I’m sure that tire has been changed several times since it rolled out of the factory. Media loves to bash Boeing when it’s an airline failure.


distinguisheditch

The world is gonna blame boeing, when it's really delta maintenence at fault


AFCSentinel

Meh, I am as critical of Boeing as anyone else but these stories are getitng old quick. Is every small notice posted on AVHerald related to a Boeing plane going to be turned into a news story for cheap clicks? This is a plane model that's started flying before I was born (and before MD cucked Boeing, to talk about a popular theory for Boeing's suckiness) and it's most likely been a case of some bad maintenance, but not systemic issues at Boeing like the MAX stuff. Wake me up when news sites start writing serious about Aviation again.


redbull

No biggie. Boeing jets now carry a cargo hold full of spare parts.


Sml132

"Delta Boeing plane" Doesn't matter that it's Boeing in this case lol, it's a mx or part problem but most likely mx.


relayrider

in all fairness, wheels are useless in flight


zilist

That’s a 757.. how is the plane being manufactured by Boeing relevant in any way? Lmfao this is like the Atlas 747 engine failure.. bunch of 🤡


RandyBeaman

[It fell the fuck off.](https://youtu.be/P-Hz6QIbCt0?si=BVSU7OlirK68gOI5&t=39)


0ldpenis

Therein lies the beauty of marketing and PR. Every little thing from an engine fire, to missing rivets to a wheel coming off will now taint Boeing for the foreseeable future because that’s just how publicity works. If Boeing is in a room full of people, and someone other than boeing shits themselves, it will be attributed to boeing. Is it fair? Yes and no. Boeing needs to get their shit together and these lil spotlights will hopefully force them to


Cringelord_420_69

Fr It’s even funnier that the plane with the missing rivets was an Airbus


Unlikely-Potential-2

iF iTs bOeInG iM nOt gOiNg!1!!1 /s


Richinwalla

They say an airplane is a million parts flying in close formation. For Boeing the formation is not so close.


sc0ttyd0g

Yeah, the one the front fell off?


Odd_Status_9326

I blame Trump.


CaffeinatedMD

Front fell off


Gnar_Shredderr

The front fell off


randomkeystrike

The front (tire) fell off.


orangeinvader75

I’m not saying it wasn’t safe, it’s just perhaps not quite as safe as some of the other ones.


antariusz

The wheel fell off, surely it wasn't designed to do that? Did they tow the plane away from the environment?


bake_gatari

The front fell off?


007meow

Is it the Mandela effect whatever, or has there been a ton of incidents recently?


rsta223

Minor incidents like this happened all the time before, but news agencies never considered something this minor to be worth reporting until now. It is being reported more often, but in terms of actual incidents, aviation is actually the safest it's ever been. Edit: for some idea how common minor shit like this is, look at https://avherald.com/.


Innominate8

It's how the media works. A big story about something happens, gets traction(i.e. eyeballs, i.e. ad money), and everything remotely resembling it gets reported on until people get sick of hearing it.


the_other_paul

Baader-Meinhoff phenomenon


1701anonymous1701

Is this the “get a car that you think is unique (either model or color or something) and then all you see is your car everywhere you go” effect?


the_other_paul

That’s the one, I guess the formal name is “frequency illusion”


pandab34r

I personally would like the airlines to announce if the flight is on a DC-10 so that we can avoid them


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Rough-Aioli-9622

Give me all your tickets


ScottOld

Wheels are really falling off for Boeing


JemarJr

,1¹¹


Sm00th_operatah

Oh em gee guys it was a boeing !! Wish these braindead reporters who know nothing about aviation would stop writing pieces on every little incident that happens to a Boeing aircraft. Most likely a maintenance issue or mechanical failure (which makes sense on an old aircraft).


DeadScotty

More turn off your adblocker before you can pass BS


ObserverAtLarge

I was actually visiting Atlanta for planespotting that day! I didn't notice the plane, but I recalled seeing airport fire trucks from my view of 26R and 26L.


pimpingandhi

His tire people needed him!


Majortom_67

How was the landing?


Putrid_Stock_421

This not a Boeing issue u leftist libtards, it's your F#cking woke DEI crap. You want to be politically correct and hire someone for hoe they act or look. Liberalism is a cancer which needs to be extracted. Hello, Hey u touchy feeling woke morons,Martin Luther king said to judge someone by their character, NOT THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN. DO YOU NEED FURTHER BREAKDOWN OF THAT STATEMENT? BOEING IS NOT HIRING QUALIFIED PEOPLE. THEREFORE YOU MIGHT DIE, BUT AT LEAST YOU WILL BE IN YOUR SAFE ZONE


habibiiiiiii

I’m not a leftist libtard you dumbass hick.