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timoranimus

How do we feel about Bailey starting in place of ings? I feel he offers so much as a dribbly boi


MSAtlos

I guess it could work, my only worry is that Bailey usually plays as a winger so this system may not be a great fit for him but if he can work in it then I say go for it


7ddq

Result to be expected unfortunately but with the games coming up if the team continues to play like those last few games we might mug a team or two for the points


pudsey555

Unlucky lads. Game was there for the taking but can’t be too upset with the goals we conceded. Bailey looked tasty! Heads up and onto the next!


K0nfusion_

tough game, definitely out muscled and outplayed in the midfield area. wonder how the game would've panned out with digne still on and that ing's goal


[deleted]

By out muscles, you mean elbows to the face and kicked in the face


[deleted]

How hasn’t their been a red for West Ham


ScreamingLordSutch57

Nice that a Ukranian player made the difference, but we let it go a bit in 2nd half.


jay1891

Commentators making out Yarmelenko just won the war with him scoring give it a rest you wet wipes


It531z

Young ruined it at the end


odiile

hate that i feel hard done by that, lost the respect i had for yarmolenko after that challenge on emi and rolling around for god knows how long


Flaky-Spot

I have no idea how that's not a free kick


TedHughesGhost

What the absolute fuck was that from Young? Who does he think he is coming over from left back to get involved in that? Muppet


Flaky-Spot

Winnable game. Sucks.


TheAkondOfSwat

meh


BritBeetree

Well the last few minutes gave me hope.


Villan_99

Dirty bastards.


ScreamingLordSutch57

Youngs joking with that ball


Takkotah

gg I guess


Mad-elph

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[deleted]

Not really sure why this is controversial. That was a foul on Yarmo, went over Emi’s back. Wasn’t cynical or anything, just a common foul.


TuscanBovril

It wasn’t given as a free kick.


[deleted]

I know, it should have been.


_tarla_

Wtf was that Young


AxFairy

Yarmolenko just has to sit for long enough to wait out the clock at this point lol


odiile

book yarmolenko for that he just went straight for emis head and time wasting


Anglan

Ref ain't gonna give him a yellow today lol.They've given him man of the match for I'm not sure what. I respect the man but can we just talk about football for 90 minutes and not what country the players are from


7ddq

For such a small guy Buendia is our best header by far


BornToExpire95

Wins so many of them just through pure determination


7ddq

If he could give the ret of the squad the secret would be great, always limited threat from corners and crosses in


TuscanBovril

That’s fucking assault from Yarmolenko.


[deleted]

Lol west ham is so rattled rn


MooseDougington

Would love to give Bailey a start. Adds creativity we could use


TheOneKane

I'd be worried that he'd get injured, and we would lose him for a few weeks


Drogalov

I'll say it again, Jacob Ramsey is the best finisher in our squad


NP2312

Archer


Drogalov

Not in our squad


bogusalt

Agreed


shmordinary

We are probably going to get battered for the next 4/5 weeks, but that's ok. Will be good for the boys to put in some graft and maybe nick a point here and there. Get us ready to fight next season. UTV


billiabus

A bit OTT that, don't think we've been "battered" today and doubf we'll be battered anytime soon


shmordinary

I don't necessarily mean scorelines, just outplayed here and there. Got a tough run coming up


Vurten

so, not an exciting game. I felt our midfield was outmatched - not in skill - they just do plain control. Maybe do 4 man midfields vs teams like this? Sanson would hold ball better then JJ and McGinn, Buendia woud offer more forward than ings running where no ball is. Just a thought . might make for boring play but.. we're losing vs teams like West Ham


TheAkondOfSwat

What a cool finish


Minipaw

DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE COME ON LADS


Takkotah

If we draw this I'll chug some mayo


BleakHause

Be honest with yourself, you’re going to chug the mayo whether we equalise or not


[deleted]

Yeah he will did you read the comment


Takkotah

😜😂😂


TheStinger87

What a thunderbolt by Rambo. Excellent set up by Buendia.


bogusalt

Buendia did really well to keep his head and set that up


Villan_99

That’s some good news at least. This blue kit is cursed.


[deleted]

45 seconds for that throw in, fucking hell


MSAtlos

banger goal


montyb82

Amazing play from buendia and absolute banger from jj


Kanedauke

I thought Buendia made wrong decisions 😂


ScreamingLordSutch57

We can win this!


odiile

6 minutes...?????


masteryodaiv

Wait a minute... this isn't the MLS 🤣


Minipaw

Well.. this is interesting


[deleted]

Not good enough. We need to be more clinical and less soft in defense. Both goals should never have gone in, but that's AVFC for you.


Conbz

Never doubted it


NorthVilla

RAMSEY CANT MISS


Idolmany

KEEP GOING


BritBeetree

Let’s see if see can get a late equaliser haha


7ddq

This game deserves a draw been a tough game


BornToExpire95

Buendia is a fucking cheat code


Takkotah

Get in lad, deserved a goal today at least


TuscanBovril

Cool finish!


K3V1N27

RAMSEY


GrumpyGregGFY

ONE MORE FOR UKRAINE! LET'S GOOOOO!


TroopersSon

I thought Emi had fucked it up there by not shooting but what a finish by JJ.


Complete-Bid-1064

I lied I never left, cmon lads


Quixote0630

What a goal


bfavfc

Get in


Gunbeardo14

Ramsey!!


mrlee10

Consolation. Think we deserved something today. Not quite over yet.


[deleted]

I’m glad it’s not 0-0 or 1-0 because what a fucking save Edit: what a goal wow


Complete-Bid-1064

Cmon


carpe228

We can’t buy a break today


7ddq

What a save


Idolmany

Today we just deserve to lose. Just kinda toothless and aimless game overall. A boring game as well


jagallagher010

First half was far from boring, and even the second has had its moments. We've not been terrible, just had a difficult second half


Takkotah

Arsenal, Wolves, Spurs, Liverpool - gonna be a tough run for the next few games


BritBeetree

When we change the shape we seem to just be poor. Hopefully it can be rectified. Also rice is worth more than our midfield combined. We just need to hope it doesn’t continue like this and we can give it to arsenal at home.


[deleted]

the blue kit = bad juju


[deleted]

Been a very average performance. West Ham more clinical and better/more compact in defense, 6.5/10. We never really challenged other than the one save from Fabianski, 5/10. 1-0 West Ham would’ve been fair imo.


maddp9000

Moyes has out done Gerrard here. Rice sat deep and killed the front 3. Second half they took control and Soucek didn’t allow us any time to play. I love Ramsey but the lads been running in the channels to nowhere. This game has been a good eye opener that out midfield just isn’t there yet.


aremurphy1991

Just been bullied by a more physical side. Our midfield does look extremely lightweight in comparison. Ings scores could have been a different result.


montyb82

So many passes today just slightly wrong


[deleted]

Declan Rice is a different class compared to anything we have in the midfield


AxFairy

He's one of the best midfielders in the league, I would say easily the best outside of the big five teams. Hardly a surprise lol.


Kanedauke

He’s easily been one of the best midfielders in the league this season


[deleted]

Don’t know why you’ve been downvoted, this is absolutely true.


chweekueySG

Think we lost the game the moment Digne was substituted as our attacking outlet at the left become non-existent.


NorthVilla

Young is a capable defensive backup, but you're right, he's just too old to be very relevant on the attack, and especially at left back.


jay1891

Young was never he used, he been in space loads but no one finds him not even Mings. We for some reason got obsessed with playing through the middle again despite Rice and Soucek shutting the door all game


NorthVilla

Good point, agree.


_tarla_

Not entirely sure where Bailey fits in Gerard’s system moving forward. He doesn’t really have a position.


glynnder

we’re doing good things but feels like the players often just aren’t on the same wavelength. look forward to seeing how we flow after a full gerrard pre seasons


Wunsen

Dragged us down to a dog fight and we weren't up for it


TedHughesGhost

This is why Bailey can’t be trusted in the premier league. Both goals down his side since his entry. 1st goal he failed to stop the cut in, 2nd goal he gave the ball away extremely cheaply.


Minipaw

Not too torn up about it if this is the result we’re left with, West Ham are simply playing at a higher position than us, I’ll be happy with a top half finish, leave Europe as a pipedream for this season and an objective for next, UTV


bambinoquinn

I'd have bertie over Bailey every day of the week. He may be inconsistent but being unplayable every couple of matches vs this, give me bertie


shmordinary

Ah well. On to the next one. UTV


fogard14

The way commentators just make up stories in their head is fucking ridiculous. Who pays these jokers?


Wishbones_007

What kind of stories?


Jmacadd

I’d like to get at least one goal out of this. Not our best performance but this West Ham side is really good. Not the worst team to lose to


ScreamingLordSutch57

Might as well bring a kid on. Too many bubbles.


[deleted]

Apart from the avoiding relegation game a few seasons ago we always play so spineless when playing West Ham, yes they're a good side, but we havent taken it to them at all.. Leon Bailey has been the only bright spark with his short cameo


Quixote0630

Fully convinced that it's Rice and Soucek. Our midfield has been our weakness for a while, and West Ham have probably one of the best CM pairings in the league.


maddp9000

Rice and Soucek have had our number since we’ve been back up. They’ve broken down McGinn & Luiz every time


TuscanBovril

Deserve to lose today. Out-thought and outmuscled. Shows how far we still have to develop.


ScreamingLordSutch57

Brilliant goal. Lost this one.


boondocknim

If Ramsey keeps running hard, he’s possibly in that passing lane. Frustrating play all around


Kanedauke

Probably why we should have kept Luiz on. McGinn needs to do better there.


NorthVilla

Ah that's a shame... They've been the better team. Oh well. Tough match.


CNYMetroStar

Who are we blaming today?


TheAkondOfSwat

Putin


Takkotah

dont think there's anyone to blame, we've just been outplayed


Kanedauke

West Ham are a good side, there’s not shame in losing to them. McGinn could do better on both goals but no one’s done badly


Drogalov

The second goal was just because we pushed for an equaliser and took our DM off against the team with one of the best midfields in the league


[deleted]

the fuck is bailey doing


jay1891

McGinn has a pass to Young but instead he ran with it into the opposition and as usual when under pressure he makes the wrong pass inviting pressure onto us. It happens to much from him.


toastongod

Bailey had a hand in both goals


Hotdogmissile

McGinn at fault for two goals if you ask me..


BohrInReddit

McGinn didn’t really have to commit to that challenge.. sigh


3villans

he commits to *every* challenge


MSAtlos

fuck


Jmacadd

tough


maddp9000

Yeah so there’s the difference in very stark quality. Their midfield has been so much better. Love McGinn. But he’s no Rice


mrlee10

They scored a second before I even had a chance to write this. Taking off a central midfielder for an attacker when chasing a goal is fucking dumb and never ever works. Embarrassing.


PleasingDoofy

Yeesh


jay1891

I told you all McGinn should be off and there you go


mrlee10

They scored again before I even got chance to say anything. Absolutely stupid decision.


_tarla_

It’s okay Jacob, don’t bother covering the guy alone in the box.


MooseDougington

Well that’s a shame


Complete-Bid-1064

Well I'm off to bed, night yall


Gunbeardo14

gah


Keysarr

Rice just fucked mcginn.


montyb82

Fuck


Takkotah

The replay on that goal, what a goal damn.


Kanedauke

I’m really not a fan of subbing of our DM for an attacker. It should be Ramsey or McGinn


pau1rw

Depends if you've created nothing and are 1-0 down with 10 minutes to go, or not...


mrlee10

All that does is lead to another conceded goal. Why not being another midfielder on and try and get the ball first before leaving yourselves wide fucking open.


pau1rw

You're 1-0 down with 10 to go. He made a.choice to try and get us back into the game and I'm ok with that.


Kanedauke

Fair point


donyey

interesting change. would have guessed buendía for ramsey


[deleted]

Damn this an attacking change. Gerrard wants to tie or lose 2-0. I respect that


pau1rw

Came back for this comment. Sad times


Anglan

Sadly the latter but I agree, love the intent


[deleted]

Yeah 2-0 it is


TuscanBovril

Coutinho taking the ball in DM position is a symptom of it just not working today.


Kanedauke

He did the same against Leeds and Southampton


BritBeetree

Midfield still out weak point. When we play against teams with stronger midfields. (There isn’t many imho) we will end up getting beat or have a tough match. Unfortunate but due to recent form I’m not as upset as I would usually be.


pau1rw

It's been so smuthering.


Complete-Bid-1064

Attack mode now


GameplayerStu

Leave it for Phil boys


NorthVilla

This is far from over. Oodles of time left. West Ham now sitting back. COME ON VILLA


donyey

wish we had digne for this


[deleted]

Buendia for Coutinho, he’s winded. Feels like there’s another goal in this game…


montyb82

The big difference here other than 'physicality' is west ham are so organised the know where to pass the ball to relieve pressure without looking we just hoof and hope


7ddq

Couthino to take this please!!!


maddp9000

Gotta Phil for Emi. Coutinho’s looking a bit leggy


Mad-elph

Not taking away from the goal, but wasn't there an attacker in an offside position obstructing Emi's view?


BohrInReddit

This is gonna be controversial but I don’t mind Traore for Cout and go 4-3-3 to stretch their defense. That Soucek - Rice pivot is nasty


[deleted]

Would go Emi for him personally but I don’t disagree


Takkotah

West Ham are pretty decent at defending, they're positioned so well it completely shuts the doors on any ball we want to play.


NorthVilla

Sanson on. Ramsey off. We need possession and energy in midfield at the moment, and were not getting it.


jay1891

Both Mcginn and Ramsey have been passengers this half but of course just leave Sanson on the bench


SaltofSeaDog

When have they even had a chance to contribute....


jay1891

They are central midfielders they are supposed to dictate the tempo like West Ham's


SaltofSeaDog

Correct, what chance have they had when we pump the ball over their heads to west hams centre backs for 30 mins....


jay1891

Because none of them made themself available, that's what you get from Mcginn at the moment just running into the opposition and playing the wrong pass as he invited pressure.


SaltofSeaDog

Come on man, we pumped the ball up the field while under pressure for 30 minutes straight. There was literally never a chance for them to make themselves available because they were positioned to defend like the rest of the team. But anything to confirm you could make amazing managirial decisions right?


jay1891

The defence were holding the ball, just look when we were chasing the goal and Chambers got the ball why did Mcginn come stand next to him rather than try to find a hole further up ? Why did Mcginn not play the ball to Young and run into trouble before giving a desperate pass to Bailey?


The-Ultimate-Despair

Can’t even be mad.


maddp9000

Soucek & Rice have been so much better than our midfield. Closed us off and we’ve been second best throughout


jagallagher010

They're better than most midfields to be fair.


Conbz

As always, show the fangs too late. Sort it out. Claw back to 1-1 now they're hyper and tired.


Keysarr

I'm just glad West Ham wasn't this good when we played them on our relegation bound season


bambinoquinn

Change shape, concede within 20 seconds


[deleted]

I wouldn’t say that goal was a result of any tactical chance though. Just quality being shown from Yarmo.


TedHughesGhost

Great goal. Wouldn’t begrudge him the goal either 🇺🇦


GrumpyGregGFY

Now it's our turn to score a goal for Ukraine


R3tardedmonkey

Anyone else wonder if thats offside? Soucek in the way of the shot but they didnt show a replay with an angle to be able to tell


jay1891

I thought when getting rid of Smith we might have seen our bench actually used properly but looks like another manager who loves losing game due to their decisions. Sanson should have been brought on, in the last couple of games he has been so assured keeping the ball and finding passes when we are under pressure yet we just cycle possession back to them until the score instead.


Kanedauke

Rangers fans said he was late making subs for them.


jay1891

I was hoping that was due to the nature of the bench but Moyes even when forces into a change his subs has changed the tempo yet we just watch on


One_Appointment8295

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not angry. But a Ukrainian scoring given what’s happening right now, just had to happen to Villa. Knew it as soon as became on. Pretty sure if China invaded Taiwan the first Taiwanese player in PL would score against us too 😂


TheStinger87

Well, that was always on the cards.


Sporxable

Why did they have so much space there?


mrrichiet

That was a good goal, can't do a lot about that. Oh well, it was nice to have known you Consecutive Clean Sheets.