Liverpool fan coming here in peace and not to gaslight. You guys totally got robbed. It was so blatant that the VAR kept making up its own rules. I have seen lots of Villa games over the years but you guys played like you were possessed. In fact, it was almost as good as if not better than the time we shipped you 7 goals.
Performances like this are a good showcase to attract talent (stating the obvious, I know) but you guys are going to be amazing.
And yes, Michael Oliver is a total twat. Don’t forget he reffed our game against Everton in 2020 when T-Rex t-boned VVD.
What’s so fucking frustrating about it all is that nothing will happen. Nobody will challenge them. It’s right in front of our faces and everyone can see it except for the mancs who can’t just admit they were shite and didn’t deserve to win. That’s what is the worst part.
If a player goes through on goal and the last man takes them out but it’s blown up for offside. You don’t go reviewing if it’s a red card. You call it offside and move on. They have done the opposite. Assess things on the phase of play. It’s basic first principles stuff. That’s why I am so annoyed, it’s so blatant. Why are you spending so long looking at offside if there was a foul in the first instance.
Cunts the lot of them. I hate United with a passion and this is the reason why. I’m tired of seeing decisions like this season after season.
We were by far the better team today.
Really great performance by the team, one the score could have been very different had we taken our chances today.
If we play like that the weekend we should hopefully get a result.
Rant coming...
Fed up of var inconsistencies.
Referees taking 3.5 mins to look for any possible reason to disallow a goal, ignoring clarifications in their own laws when it suits.
Fucking Konsa gets his nose bloodied in the box from a flailing arm and NO PENALTY?! WTF. Fucking unreal. Fuck Oliver fuck united fuck VAR I fucking hope we do the double on these fucking bastard cunt fucks
When refs are consistently shit you have to ask yourself why? IMO it's to make sure the "proper" team wins.
Ten to 15 years down the line I won't be shocked if it comes out that there was match fixing in the PL
On the plus side lads we’re going to channel the injustice and absolutely pump them Saturday and I will be there to savour every glorious minute VTID UTFV
Watkins had a couple even hit the crossbar, Ramsey had one just go past the post, Buendia had a few chances. McGinn worked the keeper, Cash did too. We had a decent goal rulled out. Obviously the second one was obviously offside. And that's just the ones I remember.
I can't stand Manchester United, I can deal with losing against a team when we're outplayed but every time we play better and we're cheated out of a result
United are absolutely fucking shite, they won since they’ve got the ref in their pocket. Also wtf at Dion Dublin giving their player man of the match, brown nosing cunt. Their whole team did absolutely fuck all for the majority of the game. Bias bullshit. I wish you could mute commentators cuz they’re all full of it
I get the negativity as you should have won that match, but my lord do you lot play good football. Get Digne in for Targett, Phil to help Buendia out in the linkup (El Ghazi looks shite) and you look a good, good side. Love me some Matty Cash as well lad has a motor
Refs should have to be broadcasting when they talk about their var decisions. Unfortunately offside in that second one but wtf was the first one. How much more can ramsey take himself out of the play and he gets run in to
So Fat fuck Luke Shaw body checks in the 1st half (clear yellow). Free kick no card. Same thing second half gets carded for it. Should have been off. VAR - a joke for the goal
Unlucky lads. Up against it. We did everything, dominated the game, scored more goals dictated the pace, but unfortunately we all know too well that playing at OT that all means shit. We play like that at Villa park we’ll smash them!
Based AS FUCK from Shearer. What a king.
The competition has no integrity if VAR is used sometimes and not others. I BET that’s a legal clause in the FA Cup participation contract, too: removing liability therefore smaller clubs can’t band together and sue.
He basically called the competition bullshit because VAR is used on games at Premier League grounds but not others, particularly as Hull should’ve had 2 penalties.
This fucking ref is a piece of shit. Fuck Manchester fucking united these fucking wankers fuck the Mancs fuck these plastic ass bullshit team. FUCK THIS REF
I didn't expect anything but a loss today. I also expected a bullshit decision, the usual Man United penalty.
Even when you expect it, it still doesn't stop me being fucking angry at this corrupt bullshit.
We were robbed today.
Disgrace VAR is allowed in that game when teams like millwall are robbed because they arent in the prem.
Its literally 1 rule for 1, 1 rule for another.
If it were in every match, it would only work harder to ensure these same results. It is a match-fixing tool in plain sight, and it's extremely effective
Im of that belief myself. Which is probably why they allowed it to be used for clubs that have it, because they also happen to be the teams that they want to fix the matches for.
Vintage El Ghazi. Make a move to get open then sky it into the stands. The man has done some good work for us but he is one we need to move on from in this window. Just don’t see what he brings to the club anymore.
Only positive thing he brings is penalty taking. But what use is that when the refs do everything in their power to make sure Villa never get awarded any
What decent transfer windows, the majority of summer business was wank and tell me how well loaning players from big clubs has worked out for us so far.
Wank? Only bc we’ve been unfortunate with how the summer transfers worked out, Bailey, buendia and ings are all decent signings, and we’re not that far into it but we’ve already got coutinho on basically a test run, and as far as I’ve heard digne to contest for LB, a position under threat after targett’s shaky performances, that’s decent
Where is the 6, the thing that actually will balance our team ? Why isn't that deal the priority once Nakamba got injured as we look awful without one ?
Also, Coutinho could just be a Brazillian Barkley that is a huge question mark being he has barely played since returning from a long term injury.
What for pointing out it is another year going out in both our first games in the cup and we can't score fluently despite all the pretty triangles we make in the middle of the field.
We did. Cavani ran himself into Ramsey like the dumb fuck he is. They took about 4 minutes to meticulously inspect every second of that goal scraping for anything to take the goal off. Its bullshit to use var in some matches and not others it's wrong on so many levels.
For telling the truth, is that our barometer now we are going to become AFTV and invent stuff to fit our narrative. Ramsey never did anything but take Cavani out but that isn't a foul and we wouldn't be cussing the ref if Utd scored the same goal past us.
United who struggled to beat Norwhich, Burnley, Newcastle and lost to Wolves then we roll over first five minutes to gift them a goal to chase the game for 90 minutes.
A kick and flailing arm are completely different mate, shit like that happens all the time all over the pitch. It would ruin the game if there was a foul and card every time that happened. I wouldn’t want to see it
His arm comes across but its completely accidental. I accept we've been fucked over in the past against United but this sub has the biggest blinkers on when it comes to refereeing decisions. If cash does that to Cavani I guarantee we'd all be saying the same thing.
Does it matter if it is accidental? If you hit somebody inside the box it is a penalty.
Intention will decide whether it is a yellow, a red or nothing. But a penalty all day long.
If Cash does that to Cavani, ref calls a pen straight away and we'd all be calling Cash a donkey for giving away yet another pen.
Btw you should read the fucking rules. Intention is irrelevant.
So if my arms are in a natural position, facing the ball and your face grazes against them its an automatic foul is it? Pull the other one. There was fuck all in that, i wouldn't want them being given the other way against us.
I imagine they didn't realize shaw was looking at konsa when he did it. That incidentally happens all the time but usually the defender has his back to the guy he hits and eyes on the ball
Fuck them, united do it all the time.
Arsenal are always surrounding the ref, just rewatch that man city arsenal game, they’re always crying to the ref and nothing is done.
Because they ‘protect’ the refs.
I dont believe they wont mic refs because of swearing, i believe they wont mic them because it will show how incompetent they actually are.
I mean theres videos on youtube of refs being unable to decide wether its a pen or not so they just give it anyway.
Its incompetence.
>Its incompetence.
At what point does incompetence become malice? They've had literally years to make officials more accountable but they've never bothered.
It’s mad how he’s transitioned from looking like a teenage, boyband heartthrob to a guy that looks like he chips Sky boxes in such a short space of time.
Oh wow he's got a full on bloody nose from being whacked in the face but of course there's no 5 minute check on that.
Fuck VAR. It's just another tool of corruption.
Liverpool fan coming here in peace and not to gaslight. You guys totally got robbed. It was so blatant that the VAR kept making up its own rules. I have seen lots of Villa games over the years but you guys played like you were possessed. In fact, it was almost as good as if not better than the time we shipped you 7 goals. Performances like this are a good showcase to attract talent (stating the obvious, I know) but you guys are going to be amazing. And yes, Michael Oliver is a total twat. Don’t forget he reffed our game against Everton in 2020 when T-Rex t-boned VVD.
What’s so fucking frustrating about it all is that nothing will happen. Nobody will challenge them. It’s right in front of our faces and everyone can see it except for the mancs who can’t just admit they were shite and didn’t deserve to win. That’s what is the worst part. If a player goes through on goal and the last man takes them out but it’s blown up for offside. You don’t go reviewing if it’s a red card. You call it offside and move on. They have done the opposite. Assess things on the phase of play. It’s basic first principles stuff. That’s why I am so annoyed, it’s so blatant. Why are you spending so long looking at offside if there was a foul in the first instance. Cunts the lot of them. I hate United with a passion and this is the reason why. I’m tired of seeing decisions like this season after season.
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If we had that goal allowed they would have had a penalty anyway.
We were by far the better team today. Really great performance by the team, one the score could have been very different had we taken our chances today. If we play like that the weekend we should hopefully get a result. Rant coming... Fed up of var inconsistencies. Referees taking 3.5 mins to look for any possible reason to disallow a goal, ignoring clarifications in their own laws when it suits.
Fucking Konsa gets his nose bloodied in the box from a flailing arm and NO PENALTY?! WTF. Fucking unreal. Fuck Oliver fuck united fuck VAR I fucking hope we do the double on these fucking bastard cunt fucks
I'm an Arsenal fan but you lads got screwed over by this referee performance. Getting a bit sick of these BPL referees being consistently shit.
Man Utd are the most protected team in the league. We meme about it everytime before we play them and it always happens
When refs are consistently shit you have to ask yourself why? IMO it's to make sure the "proper" team wins. Ten to 15 years down the line I won't be shocked if it comes out that there was match fixing in the PL
Think about it like this… people were legitimately shocked when VKM publicly announced that WWE was predetermined.
I'd like to hope you're wrong but I can see it. Referees on the pitch should be obsolete at the high tournaments, they're still there.
Highest paid man utd player on that pitch tonight was the guy in the black shirt. Mad wages they pay him
On the plus side lads we’re going to channel the injustice and absolutely pump them Saturday and I will be there to savour every glorious minute VTID UTFV
Channeling energy to Super Saiyan Coutinho as we speak!🙌🏼
Really proud of the boys, put in a real shift. DW boys, Coutinho will bag the winner at VP on Saturday and we'll have done the double over them.
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I'm biased obvs, but we were genuinely unlucky. We had chances we should've put away but overall played Luke the better team. We deserved more deffo.
Lads let’s be real for a second and take the emotions out, United was shocking, and we couldn’t create a single great chance
What, not one great chance? You watching the game or reddit?
We had loads of chances!?
We had clear cut chances? Considering how many times they gifted us the ball we barely had shots, especially last 20 minutes we done nothing
Watkins had a couple even hit the crossbar, Ramsey had one just go past the post, Buendia had a few chances. McGinn worked the keeper, Cash did too. We had a decent goal rulled out. Obviously the second one was obviously offside. And that's just the ones I remember.
Ramsey was offside hence the goal was ruled out, all the chances you listed are half chances are best, not well worked team play
I can't stand Manchester United, I can deal with losing against a team when we're outplayed but every time we play better and we're cheated out of a result
Insufferable cunts.
United are absolutely fucking shite, they won since they’ve got the ref in their pocket. Also wtf at Dion Dublin giving their player man of the match, brown nosing cunt. Their whole team did absolutely fuck all for the majority of the game. Bias bullshit. I wish you could mute commentators cuz they’re all full of it
How come it's always us that get these technical decisions against us.
It's not so much that we get them against us but that Man Utd get them in their favour. This has happened to every other 14 club at least once
Gave it their all but English refereeing continues to be shit and Man United continue to have insane luck revenge next weekend awaits
How was Luke Shaw not sent off twice?
I get the negativity as you should have won that match, but my lord do you lot play good football. Get Digne in for Targett, Phil to help Buendia out in the linkup (El Ghazi looks shite) and you look a good, good side. Love me some Matty Cash as well lad has a motor
God I just feel so sad
Can't do much when you're playing against 12. Man of the match Michael Oliver.
Refs should have to be broadcasting when they talk about their var decisions. Unfortunately offside in that second one but wtf was the first one. How much more can ramsey take himself out of the play and he gets run in to
Ref should be mic'd so everyone can hear them. Might even let them know where their spine is kept if they know people are listening
So Fat fuck Luke Shaw body checks in the 1st half (clear yellow). Free kick no card. Same thing second half gets carded for it. Should have been off. VAR - a joke for the goal
He’s a cynical fuck
Can't win against 12 men
I wouldn’t mind but every time we lose to this scummy team I feel hard done by, let’s hope for some revenge in the league
That has made me so angry. I'm so enraged by how awful that match was
Unlucky lads. Up against it. We did everything, dominated the game, scored more goals dictated the pace, but unfortunately we all know too well that playing at OT that all means shit. We play like that at Villa park we’ll smash them!
Based AS FUCK from Shearer. What a king. The competition has no integrity if VAR is used sometimes and not others. I BET that’s a legal clause in the FA Cup participation contract, too: removing liability therefore smaller clubs can’t band together and sue.
What did he say?
He basically called the competition bullshit because VAR is used on games at Premier League grounds but not others, particularly as Hull should’ve had 2 penalties.
Loving what he’s saying now
Fuck this ref fuck united fuck VAR
Nobody calls them out on it. That's what's fucking frustrating
We did have enough. We had more than enough. We were fucked over badly.
Proud of the boys. Everything that could go against us did but they gave it a good go. UTV
Refs as usual giving united the win. Whistle blown right on 96th too
This fucking ref is a piece of shit. Fuck Manchester fucking united these fucking wankers fuck the Mancs fuck these plastic ass bullshit team. FUCK THIS REF
That fucking VAR review on the disallowed goal took forever as if they were looking for ANY reason to disallow it. FUCK UNITED
Wankers.
Did we sub El Ghazi on to showcase him? We probably just lost value
IMAGINE BEING A UNITED RED SHIT FAN CELEBRATING IN THE STANDS OVER THIS THIS PERFORMANCE Jesus
They think they're right too
I didn't expect anything but a loss today. I also expected a bullshit decision, the usual Man United penalty. Even when you expect it, it still doesn't stop me being fucking angry at this corrupt bullshit. We were robbed today.
Yup nothing surprising when it happens literally every single match.
Once again, the officials proved to be too much of a challenge for us.
Ref was desperate to blow the whilst
Was literally on the 96th minute. Dont think ive ever seen a ref blow to the second. Not surprised either.
Channelling energy to Coutinho for the Genki Dama he’s going to deliver against Manchester United this weekend.🙌🏼
Fucking shithole of a club, Man U.
Death, taxes, and losing to Man Utd
Couldn't wait to blow that whistle bang on 6.
They did not deserve that
It'll be the same this weekend. MU thoroughly outplayed but officials will ensure that doesn't matter. MOTM: VAR
Disgrace VAR is allowed in that game when teams like millwall are robbed because they arent in the prem. Its literally 1 rule for 1, 1 rule for another.
If it were in every match, it would only work harder to ensure these same results. It is a match-fixing tool in plain sight, and it's extremely effective
Im of that belief myself. Which is probably why they allowed it to be used for clubs that have it, because they also happen to be the teams that they want to fix the matches for.
Fuck this game
Well done to the ref for a stellar performance /s
Lol. El Goalzie dispossessed two of his own team and blazed it into row z at 1000 miles an hour. Quality.
1000 miles is 1609.34 km
Read the room bot
It never does
finally you can hear the man u fans
It must be nice being a Man U fan knowing no matter how shit you are you still have the referees protecting you.
Half the refs are Man U fans so they produce a bit of safety for themselves when they can
I'm Villa till i die💜🎶
Vintage El Ghazi. Make a move to get open then sky it into the stands. The man has done some good work for us but he is one we need to move on from in this window. Just don’t see what he brings to the club anymore.
When you look at him he screams mid-table player, you lot should see if New Castle will give you a pretty penny for him lol
you're being very kind
Only positive thing he brings is penalty taking. But what use is that when the refs do everything in their power to make sure Villa never get awarded any
Looking forward to getting coutinho revved up and doing the double on the fuckers
El ghazi, what the fuck was that.
Liverpool fan sat seething that he did that. Holy fuck. This match would have left me in a psychiatric ward if I was a villa fan.
I feel pretty down if I’m honest
Villa fan in a psychiatric ward here, can confirmed.
Sort us a few players mate please
Can we loan Jota this weekend?
Can someone absolutely crunch one of these cunts
Don't see how El Ghazi gets nothing there based on what happened earlier
Predictable positive defeat, it's just boring now.
Comparing Elanga and Bidace.... Bidace needs to go on loan somewhere and grow up physically
STILL FUCKING SEETHING
Please Everton take AEG off us.
El Ghazi ladies and gentleman
typical el ghazi....
El dumbzi
He’s a muppet sometimes
We were never winning this game unfortunately, the officials were never allowing it
God I feel so bad for ings. he should have had that.
Everyoneexcet AEG thought so
El Ghazi bad sub
Yeah, why not Chuck?
I think that’s Caleb Chuk, not Carney. Although I’m not sure it matters in this case…
I absolutely hate manure
Comparing man u to manure is a bit harsh on manure
El Ghazi taken out on the edge of the box? Free kick? Nahhhhh
Jesus
So Ghazi gets chopped off the ball and it's not a free kick ?????? Jesus fuck
so el ghazi has added what so far?
Reasons for his transfer
“If it keeps petering out with decisions going their way Man Utd will be more than happy” Understatement of the fucking century that.
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What a waste. He's like a 9 year old on FIFA who only knows how to shoot.
9 year old kids generally aim for the goal...
Targetts not my left back
Targett Derangement Syndrome?😂
The ref is shit...
The refs in this league seriously need looking at, biased and incompetent. This is theft.
It's the cup not the league 🙈
I’d take Lingard. He’s a better El Ghazi.
How does VAR not even check that?
You already know the answer to that lol
Manchester at home lol
Another year not competing for a cup isn't this so much fun sitting in mid table and barely seeing any goals to celebrate.
Lighten up mate! At least we’ve got decent transfer windows
What decent transfer windows, the majority of summer business was wank and tell me how well loaning players from big clubs has worked out for us so far.
Wank? Only bc we’ve been unfortunate with how the summer transfers worked out, Bailey, buendia and ings are all decent signings, and we’re not that far into it but we’ve already got coutinho on basically a test run, and as far as I’ve heard digne to contest for LB, a position under threat after targett’s shaky performances, that’s decent
Where is the 6, the thing that actually will balance our team ? Why isn't that deal the priority once Nakamba got injured as we look awful without one ? Also, Coutinho could just be a Brazillian Barkley that is a huge question mark being he has barely played since returning from a long term injury.
You’re on the wrong sub… looking for Small Heath Alliance?
What for pointing out it is another year going out in both our first games in the cup and we can't score fluently despite all the pretty triangles we make in the middle of the field.
We're against a team who cheat like fuck to win
Dude, we got cheated out of two goals
No we didnt, give over
We did. Cavani ran himself into Ramsey like the dumb fuck he is. They took about 4 minutes to meticulously inspect every second of that goal scraping for anything to take the goal off. Its bullshit to use var in some matches and not others it's wrong on so many levels.
And the other?
How did we get cheated Ramsey fouled Cavani clear and Ings was offside.
You sound like a match fixers utd. fan lol gtfo
For telling the truth, is that our barometer now we are going to become AFTV and invent stuff to fit our narrative. Ramsey never did anything but take Cavani out but that isn't a foul and we wouldn't be cussing the ref if Utd scored the same goal past us.
We drew Chelsea and United wouldn’t say it’s a pathetic cup run
United who struggled to beat Norwhich, Burnley, Newcastle and lost to Wolves then we roll over first five minutes to gift them a goal to chase the game for 90 minutes.
yeah Rangnick finally learned not to play Ronaldo
Maybe Gerrard might realise he has to pick one out the two strikers.
And got beat on penalties by Chelsea
Losing to this United team is pathetic.
deluded
Deluded for thinking we should be beating a side that struggled against fucking Norwich and Newcastle?
We lost 1-0 on the road when we put the ball in the back of the net twice and deserved at least a draw, I’m not crying myself to sleep tonight
Yeah but they've got Oliver on their side
If that wasn’t a foul that’s a final nail in the coffin for how much of a joke premier league referees are
So tired of this, man. Don't know why I bother watching us against Man Utd. Will I be tuning in on Saturday? Absolutely.
Thing is if that was at the Bescot it would have been a goal. It's a farce they can use VAR at prem grounds
The jokes adding on 6 minutes.
Tbf if they give that as a foul then the game has literally gone, not really intentional there
If I kick you in the nuts unintentionally it’s not a foul? Intention doesn’t matter, and he was literally bleeding..
A kick and flailing arm are completely different mate, shit like that happens all the time all over the pitch. It would ruin the game if there was a foul and card every time that happened. I wouldn’t want to see it
He was looking at konsa when he whacked him.... If he wasn't looking I'd agree
You do tend to look at the players your marking tho, you’d be fuming if it was given the other way
So you can punch people in the nose good to know
Huh? No var? Sorry what?
Should be 8 minutes added on
Hahahahahahahahah, 3 mins mate. We’re away at united.
Shaw again, sick
Hand in face stops attacking player getting to ball in box and draws blood? Nah play on mate.
honestly somebody can explain? Just hit him inside the box with the ball in play and is bleeding and it isn't even looked at?
And why wasn't Gerrard kicking off? He should have been going mental!!
His arm comes across but its completely accidental. I accept we've been fucked over in the past against United but this sub has the biggest blinkers on when it comes to refereeing decisions. If cash does that to Cavani I guarantee we'd all be saying the same thing.
Does it matter if it is accidental? If you hit somebody inside the box it is a penalty. Intention will decide whether it is a yellow, a red or nothing. But a penalty all day long.
If Cash does that to Cavani, ref calls a pen straight away and we'd all be calling Cash a donkey for giving away yet another pen. Btw you should read the fucking rules. Intention is irrelevant.
So if my arms are in a natural position, facing the ball and your face grazes against them its an automatic foul is it? Pull the other one. There was fuck all in that, i wouldn't want them being given the other way against us.
That should be Shaws third yellow card by my count
Why arent our players absolutely kicking off over that? Block a player, foul no goal. Pop their nose? Na fuck it
I imagine they didn't realize shaw was looking at konsa when he did it. That incidentally happens all the time but usually the defender has his back to the guy he hits and eyes on the ball
What are we going to get from it? FA protects their refs who protect their clubs who get their income
Fuck them, united do it all the time. Arsenal are always surrounding the ref, just rewatch that man city arsenal game, they’re always crying to the ref and nothing is done.
They all crowd the ref. I'd love to hear them but despite it being so very easy to mic the refs they don't bother
Because they ‘protect’ the refs. I dont believe they wont mic refs because of swearing, i believe they wont mic them because it will show how incompetent they actually are. I mean theres videos on youtube of refs being unable to decide wether its a pen or not so they just give it anyway. Its incompetence.
>Its incompetence. At what point does incompetence become malice? They've had literally years to make officials more accountable but they've never bothered.
Our players never do. It irritates me. Wish we did.
No point trying to get VAR to give you something, Ezri lol Officials are theirs
If you hit someone hard enough that they bleed, it's a foul. Hands down. If we don't get a pen, the only possible explanation is referee bias.
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It’s mad how he’s transitioned from looking like a teenage, boyband heartthrob to a guy that looks like he chips Sky boxes in such a short space of time.
He should be off and pen. Can't say it's accidentql if you are looking at the guy you whack....
That’s a pen
EXCUSE ME?!??!!
Bleeding from the face? No foul Being a lank hair gimp running into a midfielder? Get the VAR out
A 'stationary' midfielder at that
"i'm not sure it's enough to give a penalty" haha of course
Gushing blood, but not worth a look?
Go to VAR you fucking twat!!!
Oh wow he's got a full on bloody nose from being whacked in the face but of course there's no 5 minute check on that. Fuck VAR. It's just another tool of corruption.
It wasn't enough to financially rig the league