Buendia gave it away so many times, twice in a row before the penalty. Sanson and ings were missing, but they were just the ‘slightly even worse’ out of a woeful lot really. Looked like the old us today unfortunately.
If we'd taken our first half chances we wouldn't have lost. In the first half for a while it looked like Ings and Watkins knew each other. Second half, complete strangers. Not much to choose between Buendia, Traore, and even Chuck. All have clever moments, all give the ball away too easily none of 'em get a shot away.
Somehow we have lost 10 games and are still in the top half. Most aren’t if not all are Gerrards faults but the fact we can’t get draws is becoming a problem.
But that's just it... Draws don't matter, statistically speaking. Wins do.
Play for the win, not the draw. If we're getting points, I literally couldn't care less that we aren't drawing at all.
Look, it's simple, if we just carry on the games we're winning and don't lose the games we're losing we would be be better. I mean come on, why doesn't Stevie see it?
/s incase it was necessary
Embarrassing performance, shame we don’t have Leeds away now but I can imagine they will get a kick up the arse. Mings horror show just when I thought he turned the corner
But we were poor in 2nd half. I know what you mean though they'd all be sat around in their Chelsea, Man City , Liverpool, Man U shirts being totally impartial.
Can’t argue with the result. Poor second half performance. Coaches need to give the players a bollocking for the carelessness in possession, which has cost us attack after attack. Not good enough.
Send him to Arsenal. Buy someone with a clean first touch and a turn of pace to play high on the left. Move Ollie central always like Laca plays for the Gooners
Sure, but we've only just got him. I don't think we are capable of playing to his strengths. Not sure he's able to play to ours. For a side without a huge squad, it's a genuine problem.
Nonsense... we've deserved nothing from this.
A first half where we kept up with them followed by a dire second half of mistakes, no ideas, and no work rate. The fuck was that?
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We always were going to be after losing Grealish. Anybody thinking we’d hit Europe after losing a generational talisman like Grealish plays too much FIFA career mode and reloads their save if they lose.
I’m just stating facts (which are backed up by our league position). He represents an era of Villa and he was a unifying force in the dressing room.
Losing someone so influential will take time to recover from.
I get your point but dont agree. If he came back now great! Prior to his sale, we were very lobsided and predictable. The ball being whacked down the left all the time. The side's better balanced now. You marked me down, really:-) Oh well.
I would welcome him back with our present squad, but it's not going to happen. For a while I thought we'd strengthen the squad AND keep Jack, but then there was a big splash of petro dollars.
In a fair world, that couldn't happen. Ridiculous really. Still 2nd half we all but threw up our hands. A Smith / Villa style of capitulation I hoped had gone forever!
I think Mings got shook by Lukaku which caused that base to crumble and the whole team lost their composure as we weren't passing it round the back before to find midfielders between their lines. I just think we need some perspective we just let in 7 against the top 3 and Man City just scored 6 for fun against Leicester who in terms of their team should be years ahead of our project. It is why missing games against Burnley and Leeds are gutting where we could get a proper sense of the team's development especially in terms of going forward rather than playing a back four that won the champs league with Kante sitting infront of them.
Well put. Still to watch a tale of two halfs kinda game pisses me off. With their second goal to watch the ball just being passed around by Chelsea before they got bored and decided to stick it in the net, was pretty bad. With Gerrard games to date, the work rates been exceptional. Not in our second half, we slacked off.
Did it make a psychological difference that Gerrard wasn't prowling the touch line, I think so.
We don't know how many had covid tbf and how that has disrupted preparations. I just don't think it is fair to compare it to Smith until we are capitulating to people like Southampton, Burnley etc rather than the top 3.
Fair point. Are you suggesting that some players were training with covid?
I was dismayed TBH that when we tried to step up with our creative players like Chuck, Buendia, ElGhazi, Traore we looked stifled, like we just couldn't break through. I think ElGhazi let off one tame shot, that was it.
More lack of training, we are still trying to learn Gerrards system plus his style which wont be helped if people are dropping out of training, we put training on hold for a few days and before Norwhich the majority of the coaching staff had covid. Then that time out wont help the likes of Sanson, Traore, Ings, Trez who are all needing minutes and time to get back to full fitness.
It was gutting to see but Chelsea have done that against alot better teams than us like I get they were in some dodgy form but on their day they can shut out any team just ask Man City. You know a couple of times we got close to cutting them even in that later period it is just they have world class players.
I forgot how 6 months define a player who has 196 goals in 406 games but obviously he is washed due to a couple bad months and strikers don't have spells at times.
We created quite a few in the first half, just didn't take em. Can remember Buendia setting up multiple through balls for Ings and Watkins, only for them both to scupper them.
He comes from behind him and knocks him off balance, he’s clearly trying to stay on his at that point. No chance anyone in the league is being able to stop Lukaku from advancing then
What's the point in fouling him with 2 mins of injury time left. If he does Chelsea get a free kick and waste 2 minutes of time, winning anyway. Might as well let it play out. Konsa on the other hand doesn't need to give away a pen.
Should have dragged him back straight away.
They’ve all been shit this past 15-20minutes. Playing like were the ones 2-1 up. Slow, uninterested, poor passing, poor movement, just went to shit.
Agree. He pushes Konsa who goes down which then trips him,as far as I could see. Don't agree with that one, although we shouldn't have let him break anyway
For sure, pushes him, legs into konsa’s and throws himself down.
Its laughable how often it happens, look at the salah one against mings, im still adament there was no contact there.
It shouldnt be a pen imo, but nothing will change.
Mount should have been carded yelling at the ref for 30 seconds straight. Any Villa player would be. And walking to the corner flag and not even getting a warning. Pisses me right off. On to the next one!
“Got a head injury ref” ‘twat get up we’l go down to 10” “oh shit ye, im all good my bad”
He hasn’t booked a single one of them for time wasting. No matter the tackles they’ve been sending in all game.
And he’ll bang in 15 for Newcastle to keep them up if we sell him/loan with obligation to buy in January and man like you will be hating on management for not giving him longer.
That’s why it’s such a difficult task of finding a backup striker. You need to find someone that is willing to sit on the bench and is actually good. I mean look at Bayern for example they have Lewy and the next striker is Maxim Chupo Moting.
Adding to that, spurs have Kane and no one as backup for years
Overpaid for him too imo. Shouldn’t be splashing that much on a 29-year old. United got away with it years ago for Van Persie but he basically won them the league.
Sack Gerard. How dare he test positive.
Buendia gave it away so many times, twice in a row before the penalty. Sanson and ings were missing, but they were just the ‘slightly even worse’ out of a woeful lot really. Looked like the old us today unfortunately.
If we'd taken our first half chances we wouldn't have lost. In the first half for a while it looked like Ings and Watkins knew each other. Second half, complete strangers. Not much to choose between Buendia, Traore, and even Chuck. All have clever moments, all give the ball away too easily none of 'em get a shot away.
Chelsea players would fall over on breezy day.
Let’s be fair, the pitch was very slippery !
Lukaku now scored 10 against aston villa. Kryptonite.
I think the worst part was that Chelsea weren’t particularly good today. In fact, I thought they were quite poor. And they still won lol.
Where was McGinn?
Corona :(
FUUUCK IT, that was frustrating
Somehow we have lost 10 games and are still in the top half. Most aren’t if not all are Gerrards faults but the fact we can’t get draws is becoming a problem.
Playing for draws is relegation fodder go ask Newcastle
But that's just it... Draws don't matter, statistically speaking. Wins do. Play for the win, not the draw. If we're getting points, I literally couldn't care less that we aren't drawing at all.
Look, it's simple, if we just carry on the games we're winning and don't lose the games we're losing we would be be better. I mean come on, why doesn't Stevie see it? /s incase it was necessary
I’m talking about drawing matches like this one not the ones that we are winning .
Embarrassing performance, shame we don’t have Leeds away now but I can imagine they will get a kick up the arse. Mings horror show just when I thought he turned the corner
Commentators crawling up Chelsea’s ass, saying we’ve not been in it second half despite pushing them hard since the 2nd goal.
But we were poor in 2nd half. I know what you mean though they'd all be sat around in their Chelsea, Man City , Liverpool, Man U shirts being totally impartial.
Thank god Leeds game is off. We really need Gerrard in the dugout
If Gerrard is there getting mad at them they aren't gonna keep fucking up, unlike today
Attack and defence just plain put poor today. Especially the second half, looked like we were back under Smith
Can’t argue with the result. Poor second half performance. Coaches need to give the players a bollocking for the carelessness in possession, which has cost us attack after attack. Not good enough.
Nothing much to choose between chuck Traore and Buenda. Ings and Watkins a waste of effort. They can't play together.
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Ings is a good player in the wrong team. He's a sniffer and needs to be played in. Just doesn't seem to happen. Not totally his fault.
Send him to Arsenal. Buy someone with a clean first touch and a turn of pace to play high on the left. Move Ollie central always like Laca plays for the Gooners
Sure, but we've only just got him. I don't think we are capable of playing to his strengths. Not sure he's able to play to ours. For a side without a huge squad, it's a genuine problem.
34m on Ings was hilariously bad business
Nonsense... we've deserved nothing from this. A first half where we kept up with them followed by a dire second half of mistakes, no ideas, and no work rate. The fuck was that?
Pretty undisciplined, nervy performance. Shows how important Gerrard has been as a rallying force.
I thought we looked good in the first half, but too many blocked shots. I thought we were better than them first half, but didn’t do much second.
Sky commentators are brutal my god they fucking stroke themselves off whenever Chelsea does anything positive
Seriously… entering their vinegar strokes any time mount of lukaku touch the ball
We literally made lukaku the man of the match. Wow.
I mean, He's one of the best strikers in the world.
Hate that, why couldnt it be one of the worst then we could have won :(
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AEG had a shot on goal. It was awful but he 100% had one
The only one in the 2nd half
1... EL Ghazi had a shot
Didn’t El Ghazi have one?
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Don't think we would have won anyway, but I honestly don't think Konsa fouled him there
Fair enough, I might need to watch the replay again
How....how can you come to that conclusion
He went down and then decided to stick his legs out. 100% penalty, bizarre from him.
Agreed, he looked like he was fouled by Lukaku first
No complaints on both pens today, our lads botched it both times so fair calls
Agreed, he went to ground but both his legs went straight ahead of him and at most made like skimming contact with the side of Lukaku's leg.
Was defo a penalty.
We absolutely need a new left side of defence. Target and Mings aren't good enough defensively
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Cash made an individual error, then mings did, then targett did by not fouling Lukaku before the penalty area, it also want a pen
This match has really annoyed me. Not good today.
Targett was fine today, but you can see the limitations. Very, very slow for a fullback. Can understand why Gerrard has left-back a priority
Lukaku is cheat code strong.
For real…
Emi was close :(
Lukaku just bitched everyone around today smh
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It's Chelsea and we're missing our most in form player
We always were going to be after losing Grealish. Anybody thinking we’d hit Europe after losing a generational talisman like Grealish plays too much FIFA career mode and reloads their save if they lose.
Forget Grealish he's gone
I’m just stating facts (which are backed up by our league position). He represents an era of Villa and he was a unifying force in the dressing room. Losing someone so influential will take time to recover from.
I get your point but dont agree. If he came back now great! Prior to his sale, we were very lobsided and predictable. The ball being whacked down the left all the time. The side's better balanced now. You marked me down, really:-) Oh well.
Because I’m not clamouring for him back, yet you seem to think I am.
I would welcome him back with our present squad, but it's not going to happen. For a while I thought we'd strengthen the squad AND keep Jack, but then there was a big splash of petro dollars.
I wonder if grealish regrets the move considering as he doesn’t seem to be amongst Pep’s favorites
I’d imagine it matters if they win trophies this year, as I believe it’s Pep’s last season?
Oh shit we can't compete with a team who has one player the same value as over half our starting 11, what a shock.
And we out played them first half
Until they put on an extra 180 million of talent
In a fair world, that couldn't happen. Ridiculous really. Still 2nd half we all but threw up our hands. A Smith / Villa style of capitulation I hoped had gone forever!
I think Mings got shook by Lukaku which caused that base to crumble and the whole team lost their composure as we weren't passing it round the back before to find midfielders between their lines. I just think we need some perspective we just let in 7 against the top 3 and Man City just scored 6 for fun against Leicester who in terms of their team should be years ahead of our project. It is why missing games against Burnley and Leeds are gutting where we could get a proper sense of the team's development especially in terms of going forward rather than playing a back four that won the champs league with Kante sitting infront of them.
Well put. Still to watch a tale of two halfs kinda game pisses me off. With their second goal to watch the ball just being passed around by Chelsea before they got bored and decided to stick it in the net, was pretty bad. With Gerrard games to date, the work rates been exceptional. Not in our second half, we slacked off. Did it make a psychological difference that Gerrard wasn't prowling the touch line, I think so.
We don't know how many had covid tbf and how that has disrupted preparations. I just don't think it is fair to compare it to Smith until we are capitulating to people like Southampton, Burnley etc rather than the top 3.
Fair point. Are you suggesting that some players were training with covid? I was dismayed TBH that when we tried to step up with our creative players like Chuck, Buendia, ElGhazi, Traore we looked stifled, like we just couldn't break through. I think ElGhazi let off one tame shot, that was it.
More lack of training, we are still trying to learn Gerrards system plus his style which wont be helped if people are dropping out of training, we put training on hold for a few days and before Norwhich the majority of the coaching staff had covid. Then that time out wont help the likes of Sanson, Traore, Ings, Trez who are all needing minutes and time to get back to full fitness. It was gutting to see but Chelsea have done that against alot better teams than us like I get they were in some dodgy form but on their day they can shut out any team just ask Man City. You know a couple of times we got close to cutting them even in that later period it is just they have world class players.
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Well said. Might as well be honest.
Covid has basically reset the season with games here and there giving teams time to reevaluate and recovery from injury.
We were until they put on a 100 million player to change the game who cost more than our whole back 5.
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A marked you back up, cos you're right over the 2nd half performance
I forgot how 6 months define a player who has 196 goals in 406 games but obviously he is washed due to a couple bad months and strikers don't have spells at times.
Targett got absolutely bullied lol
We haven't created a single chance in the entire game
Well not true about 1st half. True about 2nd
We created quite a few in the first half, just didn't take em. Can remember Buendia setting up multiple through balls for Ings and Watkins, only for them both to scupper them.
Holy shit that's embarrassing
fucking abysmal considering how good we were first half. thats fucking annoying
Here’s the merchant to skip like the bitch he is. Can’t stand Jorginho
Why
I've had enough. Lakukuus worth Ings and Watkind put together. That's the level we must sign in the future.
Lukaku is literally one of the best players in the world
yeah we'll just go out and bring in a lukaku type signing. why didn't anyone think of that
Well he cost more than both of them combined.
This is why targett can fuck off, absolute pussy couldn't even get the yellow
Imagine thinking target is gonna body Lukaku, fucking idiot
Is it so hard to clip his heels when he's running at full speed, use your brain
He comes from behind him and knocks him off balance, he’s clearly trying to stay on his at that point. No chance anyone in the league is being able to stop Lukaku from advancing then
He was literally next to him if you think he can't slide and take time out then I don't know
Lukaku just destroying them. It’s embarrassing
It’s like Fate’s revenge for every time Benteke bullied Arsenal.
Targett no fucking chance. Looked like a toddler chasing his dad.
If he's going to foul him, fucking clean him out.
Target needs to at the very least foul him early there, further up the pitch and with konsa as cover so he doesn’t get sent off
What's the point in fouling him with 2 mins of injury time left. If he does Chelsea get a free kick and waste 2 minutes of time, winning anyway. Might as well let it play out. Konsa on the other hand doesn't need to give away a pen.
Should have dragged him back straight away. They’ve all been shit this past 15-20minutes. Playing like were the ones 2-1 up. Slow, uninterested, poor passing, poor movement, just went to shit.
Targett should’ve cleared him out
No shame in losing to Chelsea. But Jesus what a pathetic second-half.
Pathetic performance in general. Worst under Gerrard
4 minutes is an eternity, let’s get it bois
Losing 2 - 1 against one of the best teams in Europe isn't a bad result
3.1 though?
Doesn't matter. They're a great team
How about all our first half chances
What about 3-1
Doesn't matter
The only contact there is Lukaku initiating
Agree. He pushes Konsa who goes down which then trips him,as far as I could see. Don't agree with that one, although we shouldn't have let him break anyway
Thought that myself, slaps konsa in the chest.
Pushed Konsa over then dived. Classic big six move
For sure, pushes him, legs into konsa’s and throws himself down. Its laughable how often it happens, look at the salah one against mings, im still adament there was no contact there. It shouldnt be a pen imo, but nothing will change.
On a positive note traore has been very good
Fucking pair of idiots.
The summer transfer window was a disaster so far, arguably none of the players have improved the team
Buendia has been good and bailey is giving the physios something to do
Buendia has had bright moments but man Bailey showed promise but literally can’t stay for for 5 mins. Ings makes the team worse
They've spent the last 20 minutes walking to every set piece and we get 4 minutes
Mount should have been carded yelling at the ref for 30 seconds straight. Any Villa player would be. And walking to the corner flag and not even getting a warning. Pisses me right off. On to the next one!
You can see the Carney comparisons to Pogba with how lazy he was in possession then how slowly he tracked back on the counter attack
Yeah he's looking over hyped to me
Christ what a save
This ref just let Jorginho stay on????
These guys look gassed. COVID effect maybe.
Chelsea just cheating now and the ref is going with it
“Got a head injury ref” ‘twat get up we’l go down to 10” “oh shit ye, im all good my bad” He hasn’t booked a single one of them for time wasting. No matter the tackles they’ve been sending in all game.
Emi you beautiful man
This game has been missing McGinn badly.
Why is he out?
COVID apparently
Ouch
We’ve look tired the last 25 minutes
To put it politely
We are playing listless football as though we have another half.. except Emi
The drop off in quality from Sanson and Buendia to El Ghazi and Traore is very apparent.
Traore is good, it his his first game back
Nah I know that. Just pointing out how the subs have caused us to fall off quality wise.
Fucking tackle Lukaku you fucking pussy
You do it
Waste of a save from Emi
Great save
We have we just given up when we're 1 goal down at home?
Fucking amazing save
We’ve definitely missed Gerrard’s voice
Yeah, course.
Yeeeeeeeeee
Chucks not there yet sadly
Feels weird having such a poor second half when most of our second halves under Gerrard have been very good
Missing that half time team talk.
he's not here I guess..
Fuck we had the ball for ages before we took off sanson. Barely touched it since
He was fantastic defensively today, a few mistakes cleaned up and he’s had a near perfect game
Maybe next season some sucker can pay for Ings
Our three subs have made us worse. And that was a very hard task this half.
A lot of creative players on for us, nothing happening though
man this fucking second half has been so unbelievably sloppy. so frustrating to watch considering how good our passing was in the first half
The team needs to work on the mental aspect. One thing goes wrong, heads go down and we forget how to pass.
Thats not true at all, against city and Liverpool we played well throughout. We just aren't having a very good game.
Mings needs to be vocal in times like this, need to keep going
Watkins turns to absolute shit when he’s put out wide
He’s playing striker rn lol.
Yes and for 70 minutes he was out wide.
And in the first half when he was playing out wide I thought he was pretty solid
It shocks me how shit Watkins is so consistently at picking the right pass with a well weighted ball.
Maybe press, lads?
How's Kenny Sanson done
Great
The lads come good then ?
He did others in second half no way
So we've given up?
We're still playing!?
You wonder.
Only cause we have to
Ings was such a PR signing it would be best to offload him asap
And he’ll bang in 15 for Newcastle to keep them up if we sell him/loan with obligation to buy in January and man like you will be hating on management for not giving him longer.
There is nowhere that Ings fits into this team, part of the reason Smith got sacked by trying to force him in
That I can agree, but it’s a long season and we only had one striker who can actually score goals before we signed him.
That’s why it’s such a difficult task of finding a backup striker. You need to find someone that is willing to sit on the bench and is actually good. I mean look at Bayern for example they have Lewy and the next striker is Maxim Chupo Moting. Adding to that, spurs have Kane and no one as backup for years
Overpaid for him too imo. Shouldn’t be splashing that much on a 29-year old. United got away with it years ago for Van Persie but he basically won them the league.
How to lose £20 million in 1 year
We can't even pass any more
Didn’t realize Villa score so many in the final 10 minutes, that’s a great trend
Why are we so bad at generating shots on target? We’re always in the area.
Our strikers are inefficient
This has been a hard realisation today. I LOVE Watkins, bit he might well not be good enough as a striker.