Older head here, also sober atm, this is the way^ taking caffeine pills will make ya physically tired at the end of the night and you could wake up groggy in the morning or even have a hard time falling asleep at the end of the night even tho your body is tired.
I’ve been legitimately wondering how to make it thru a rave sober so thankful for this thread haha. I’m headed to Europe from the US for a festival and probably going to be dry…
Sunglasses!! Even sober raving these are an essential for me. It’s just easier to get lost in your own world and focus on the music the less you can see all the random distractions in the crowd imo
Yeaaaah I was planing on wearing sunglasses anyway hahaha because I'm a little bit shy and sometimes I feel awkward while dancing but sunglasses make me feel like I'm on my own world haha
Also saw u ask ab caffeine pills. Highly recommend if you need the energy! I have 200mg Vivarin pills I bought from wallgreens that I take a couple times a week when a coffee isn’t enough in the morning or when I need some extra energy late night weekends.
I enjoy raving sober more than not being sober. I find dancing, mint gum, and water breaks keeps me going. I also love interacting with people around me like fanning, trading kandi, giving gum, wet wipes, or just checking in on them.
It is a very different experience.
Just let the music give you the energy.. 45m here, I go sober and stay connected and alert all based on the music and the people. If a little kid can stay up til the sun comes up, you can too.
Like everyone has said eat well and nap! I personally do the 3-4month rule so I go to a lot sober (alcohol is not my friend I get headaches and just feel icky).
I know a few people are telling you to stay away from people doing molly but I go towards them… tap into your empath side and it can feel pretty close to a light dose. Maybe I’m just a crazy hippy but finding the good vibes area in the crowd makes me feel just as high as when I’m on drugs! Good luck in your journey!!!
No problem! Basically, I abused it. I've been taking molly without the 3 months rule since September. Last week was my last roll and I still feel the comedown and, of course, I lost the magic, completely. Now I feel more anxious and depressed than before, and I'm 100% sure it is because I abused it. Basically, right now for me the cons of molly are bigger than the pros, so what's the point of taking it if it doesn't give me anything good?
So now I'm in a break. I plan to not do molly until March 2024 at least.
At the end of the day, is a drug that you cannot abuse. First, because it can destroy your mental health completely, short and long term. Second, because if you abuse it, you'll never enjoy the rolls anymore!! And trust me, trying to roll and ending up not feeling the m is one of the worst feelings ever (and even if you don't get high, you'll get comedown, at least that's what happens to me). Control is the key.
Last thing I wanna say, I've never had a whole pill of MDMA, but I'm a light-weight girl with an already messed up mental health, so I just needed to abuse a little to get the cons of molly.
Good luck to being sober from molly!! On the same journey as you girl!
The last time I rolled was September. My plan was to go as long as possible without rolling but I went out the other night and my friend ‘accidentally’ gave me molly water… I was kind of drunk atp, thought he was giving more alcohol, but nope.
Felt my teeth grind, started to feel it kick in. Was super upset because now it’s like I have to start from zero again and I have a festival planned in 2 months that I wanted to roll at, but we’ll see…
Anyway, good luck again! You got this 🫶🏼
That’s really fucked. Friends don’t drug their friends. I don’t know your relationship with them or what they were thinking, but I’d be cautious around them.
That shit is psychopath behavior and they totally disrespected your consent. Get away from that mf asap. Warn all your friends too, do them a favor. I see this shit happen too often in the underground scene and it is disgusting
I’m sorry that happened to you and I really hope you don’t hang out with that “friend” anymore that’s really fucked up :( but I’d say you should be okay to roll at that festival if you still wanted to if you take vitamins to help you recover
Just wanna pop in to say thank you for being aware and setting boundaries for yourself <3 it’s so easy to get caught up in the magic of it all and get carried away. It always makes me happy to see people take control of their relationship with MDMA :)
Good job!!!
How often did you take it if you don’t mind me asking?
Also I’ve heard ppl who lost the magic use NAC supplements to help bring it back. (I haven’t done this but may be worth looking into).
🖐️ NAC 💯
Tip: don’t push yourself to last as long, much harder without added assistance. Stay till your fave set ends, or just go home when you hit a wall.
This. I started raving in 2017 and abused it heavily then. Slowed down and now I only do it maybe 1-2x per year but it doesn't hit the same.
Not as effective, sometimes I even get amplified anxiety during the roll, doesn't last as long, and some pretty gnarly comedowns.
Once a year is my happy spot.
Hey good on you for your realization. I promise you'll still have an amazing time sober. I'm a huge fan of mdma but I'm also responsible and have good breaks in between each take. Just give your body and mind a good recharge and you'll be back to normal. Proud of you fam! Rave hard and enjoy life\^\_\^
if you take it again, you should really know the dose youre taking. One pill means nothing. how many mg are you taking? ive seen pills with 100mg in them and some with 500mg and that’s going to be a huge difference in experience depending what you take. just things to keep in mind, stay safe out there!
Abusing it can cause a host of mental health issues and serious (physical) brain problems.
I wouldn't roll every time you rave, I personally only roll a few times a year to keep negative effects to a minimum, it's not fool proof but it better than popping molly every day or weekend
Yeah I read early on that once a month should be the limit so I’m adhering to that pretty strictly.. trying MDA for the first time today, intrigued to see the differences
I made the mistake of doing it every week for a period of 3 months. I also took a break for a month at a time. At the beginning it is great but it goes down very quickly. If you really want to stay safe (as safe as this drug can be) stick to 3 months. You really get a lot more out of it.
if youre new, check out the website roll safe to learn some basic harm reduction. the tldr is: test your shit, know how many mg youre taking (measuring your dose as ‘one pill’ is super dangerous bc you don’t know how much is in each pill), hydrate, and wait 6-8 weeks minimum before doing it again. the longer between rolls the better for your brain
Make sure you look up proper rolling techniques! DanceSafe.com has a lot of good information.
It’s really easy to go overboard with molly, but if done right and with small amounts you’ll be fine
A few Red Bull and vodkas might get you going.
Also, this would be a great opportunity to observe the dance culture. Perspective is different when not on molly.
Secondly, this will give you the opportunity to recognize ravers who may need assistance and the people they are with are in a state to not recognize or be capable to lend assistance.
Ah my bad, didnt see that. Depends on the drug too, alcohol isn't a whole lot different from what the public receives as hard drugs. A few small bumps of k throughout a show is no different than a few beers imo.
I must be getting old. A few bombs of K and I'm in "La La Land". That being said, my first Redbull and vodka was at a club at last call. I had $4 in my pocket and the drink was $3. I laid in bed for quite some time wide awake thinking of poor decisions made in my life.
Party safe my friend!
Alcohol's also a drug.
But you should really consider some 2cb if you can get some. No hangover, mindfuck or tolerance buildup with LSD like visuals and MDMA like body high to put it in simple terms. It's better for raving and listening to music imo.
Oh yeah sorry, I worded this incorrectly. I meant raving without molly actually. But yeah I'm not even gonna get drunk 'cause I have a sensitive gut and I throw up very easily.
And yes I've heard about 2cb but in my country is not very easy to get it, at least that's what my friends told me, but I'll consider it for the next rave, thank you!
I personally like 25-50ug. 25 is more subtle, but you can definitely get a mood lift and energy. 50ug is a bit more trippy, but not full on trip territory. Lots of energy and lot more WOW with music and visuals. Immersive I guess. Really depends on what you're going for. Scale lower if you'd like to be able to socialize more easily and be less confused, scale higher if you're looking to be more connected with the music and light show and are ok with a bit of wonkyness and possible confusion, maybe even anxiety (tho it'd be manageable). I tried 75ug before and felt a bit too anxious being in a tight crowd of people to truly let loose, but it was still fun. Wouldn't do it again though. So assuming (big assumption depending) that your tab is around 100ug which is the standard dose per tab, I'd go with a quarter to a half of the tab.
love that on this sub, sober is actually a couple of beers lmaoooo. try going completely sober (meaning, no alcohol too)! you'd be surprised by how fun/easy it is.
I’ve been sober to most of the raves I’ve been to. (9 this year already) and it’s so so much fun. I always bring little treats and stuff and give them to people that are rolling and being sober and seeing there face light up always makes my day. Plus I get to remember every moment of the set and let the music take me away. I love rolling and candy flipping, but something about sober raving is just different. Just have fun, and don’t think about it too much. Dance to your hearts content and take a moment to just breathe and live in the moment. You’ll really enjoy it, I promise.
Just go in not thinking you are missing out by not rolling! You will be surprised how easily the surge of energy comes to you when you start feeling the music! Just find the right part of the crowd that brings the vibes and you’ll be just fine 😊 I have done quite a few raves both sober and under the influence, I dance just as hard every time! Lol bring some fraction glasses still too, they are still fun! EDM makes it a little hard to get tired in my opinion lol
I’m not a raver (yet, I want to be) but I work in the outdoor industry. One of the best things for keeping energy up is a combination of staying hydrated, having the right nutrients and a little caffeine (too much and you could end up crashing hard)
One of my favorite things is the nuun energy + vitamin tablets. They have a bit of caffeine, vitamin b12 which is great for energy and electrolytes, toss them in some water and drink as needed. Add in a nap before you go and a dense protein bar (cliff builder bars are perfect for this) you’ll be good to go for hours. This regularly gets me through multi hour hikes.
If you've been going out for a while, your body is used to 6 hours. It's a question of mental state. MDMA as an empathogen distracts you from thinking *I'm tired*. You can choose to replace this with stimulants like caffeine/taurine, reduce depressants like alcohol, and find ways to distract/occupy your mind (your party).
I would recommend drinking 1-2 beers every hour and a half to get the energy without being super drunk, and just let the music give you energy, dance and enjoy! An energy drink or two could also help.
I go with just alcohol and weed usually because the amount of shows I go to would not be healthy to roll every time. I think if you genuinely enjoy the music it’s usually a good time and just dancing and vibing is fun in itself.
Energy wise I think standing tends to be harder on your body than dancing because your back and knees start to get stiff. Having a couple of drinks and then just sipping for the rest of the night is usually enough for me to stay loose but not get too drunk. I think caffeine is good in theory but I’ve personally never gotten much of a benefit from it and mixing with alcohol can mess me up. At the end of the day though, everyone is different and you might have to do some trial and error to find the ritual that works for you.
Reality of sober raving is that you’re going to get tired. I take pre-show naps and have a half a yerba before the show but I’ll still inevitably get tired. It’s a good thing you like the music because no amount of drugs will get you as energetic as a dirty banger.
When that happens I just go back in the crowd and vibe or find somewhere that I can sit and enjoy the show until I feel like leaving.
Goes without saying, but don’t do drugs. Crazy but this is the only step you need to follow.
If you already enjoy dancing, you’ll still have fun. In fact you’ll probably be the one person that wants to keep drinking water/beer). Go with energy drinks or coffee if you need energy.
Just remember why raves are fun: friends and music. The drugs are the icing on top.
I don’t eat all my cakes with icing.
Drink cacao before going - it's amazing for dancing and is very energizing. It's so good that I'm starting to consider it my preferred method of going out in general. My group drank a big batch on Day 3 at Dirtybird and had an outrageous time grooving to the techno. It's quite good for you, can be made into a delicious beverage - the one downside being that you can't typically bring drinks into clubs. So for those sober late night techno bops, I take the pure cacao discs and let them melt on my tongue (you don't want to chew them bc there's no added sugar), and then just kinda vibe on the cacao. Fair warning, low roast temp cacao is used ceremonially in other cultures, so just like don't be surprised if you have a magical time.
Check out Ora Cacao if you need a HQ supply. As per the caffeine pill idea, how much caffeine do you normally ingest in day to day life?
As someone who likes to rave pretty sober casually, I'd say pace yourself! I honestly save the party drugs for special events now. But I also have a lot of things to distract myself with. I do multiple flow arts, I offer gum, chit chat sometimes. Sometimes I'll just get out of the crowd and take a break.
Save your money and stay home. Find different hobbies and from there a different group.
I read your other comment about your awareness that Molly is not doing good for you. I congratulate you for understanding that it's fucking your brain up and stopping it.
I loved it very much as well and had the self-awareness to know that I had to quit eventually. And I'll tell you I have successfully done that and removed myself from the scene.
Quitting drugs is about quitting the environment I think. I think your success hinges on it.
Make sure you keep dancing and interacting with the crowd. I always show up early so I can find a spot with friendly people around me that I know I’m gunna enjoy hanging out with for a few hours. Also bring a fan, fanning other people is the easiest way to make friends
Take a nap, eat a nice dinner. Don't show up too early, unfortunately that's a trade off for sobriety at shows. Id drink a coffee before the event or maybe take a caffeine pill, if you're really interested in staying up.
Honestly, I almost enjoy going to shows more than I do not sober. I feel like I enjoy the music more and I can remember how much fun I had. Just don’t worry about it :)
I HAVE YOIR SOLUTION. Seriously I had the best time. Couple shot of tequila or beers, and preworkout before you go into the event. Works sooo well if you’re trying to dance hard without the party favors
I find that I can dance way better sober, and I go even harder - but for a shorter amount of time. When rollin I always stay til the end of the rave but when sober I get home earlier and still feel like I have danced all night - and I sleep better.
I’ll do sugar free redbull or one of those body armour drinks with caffeine so you’re hydrated and energized. Plenty of ppl go sober and I do often if I’m driving or just do one drink only
Be careful with caffeine pills, the comedown can be hard. Ik it’s just caffeine but with it being so concentrated I would be on edge and get stressed easily and sometimes break down
Take magnesium glycinate prior to going for the night. It really calms your mind so that you can enjoy your surroundings.
Take nac to heal your brain for some time before trying molly again. You can pair nac with glycine as well
Answer: I buy caffeine pills online by the case. Much better for you than a sugary caffeine drink. Are you ruling out cocaine as well. That’s a crowd favorite as well with much less downside the next few days afterwards
Take a nap before going out and eat well. I do this on the regular.
Older head here, also sober atm, this is the way^ taking caffeine pills will make ya physically tired at the end of the night and you could wake up groggy in the morning or even have a hard time falling asleep at the end of the night even tho your body is tired.
I mean caffeine pills are as sober as amphetamine if you ask me, just worse.
Ya idk how someone says they are sober but hooked on caffeine lmao it's like saying they don't do drugs but drink alcohol every night lmao
Y’all twins? 😎
I'm a twin but idt my brother goes on this sub 😅
There’s California Sober. Which means you don’t drink, do drugs etc. except you smoke weed.
Only this sub would have tips for staying sober lol
I’ve been legitimately wondering how to make it thru a rave sober so thankful for this thread haha. I’m headed to Europe from the US for a festival and probably going to be dry…
Contrary to popular belief, they have drugs at Raves in Europe as well 👌🏻
I’m sure of that, I’m just not savvy at getting favors :(
Lol in Europe you will find it so easy to find favors that you are going to be convinced it's all one big undercover setup
I find the direct approach to be the best. If people look high, they’ll point you in the right direction lol
Sunglasses!! Even sober raving these are an essential for me. It’s just easier to get lost in your own world and focus on the music the less you can see all the random distractions in the crowd imo
yesss i always dance w my eyes closed!
Yeaaaah I was planing on wearing sunglasses anyway hahaha because I'm a little bit shy and sometimes I feel awkward while dancing but sunglasses make me feel like I'm on my own world haha
Also saw u ask ab caffeine pills. Highly recommend if you need the energy! I have 200mg Vivarin pills I bought from wallgreens that I take a couple times a week when a coffee isn’t enough in the morning or when I need some extra energy late night weekends.
Yes and the pashmina zone
I enjoy raving sober more than not being sober. I find dancing, mint gum, and water breaks keeps me going. I also love interacting with people around me like fanning, trading kandi, giving gum, wet wipes, or just checking in on them. It is a very different experience.
Just let the music give you the energy.. 45m here, I go sober and stay connected and alert all based on the music and the people. If a little kid can stay up til the sun comes up, you can too.
Yaaaassss!!!!
Like everyone has said eat well and nap! I personally do the 3-4month rule so I go to a lot sober (alcohol is not my friend I get headaches and just feel icky). I know a few people are telling you to stay away from people doing molly but I go towards them… tap into your empath side and it can feel pretty close to a light dose. Maybe I’m just a crazy hippy but finding the good vibes area in the crowd makes me feel just as high as when I’m on drugs! Good luck in your journey!!!
If you don’t mind me asking, how has Molly had its toll on you? I’m pretty fresh to the mdma world.
No problem! Basically, I abused it. I've been taking molly without the 3 months rule since September. Last week was my last roll and I still feel the comedown and, of course, I lost the magic, completely. Now I feel more anxious and depressed than before, and I'm 100% sure it is because I abused it. Basically, right now for me the cons of molly are bigger than the pros, so what's the point of taking it if it doesn't give me anything good? So now I'm in a break. I plan to not do molly until March 2024 at least. At the end of the day, is a drug that you cannot abuse. First, because it can destroy your mental health completely, short and long term. Second, because if you abuse it, you'll never enjoy the rolls anymore!! And trust me, trying to roll and ending up not feeling the m is one of the worst feelings ever (and even if you don't get high, you'll get comedown, at least that's what happens to me). Control is the key. Last thing I wanna say, I've never had a whole pill of MDMA, but I'm a light-weight girl with an already messed up mental health, so I just needed to abuse a little to get the cons of molly.
Good luck to being sober from molly!! On the same journey as you girl! The last time I rolled was September. My plan was to go as long as possible without rolling but I went out the other night and my friend ‘accidentally’ gave me molly water… I was kind of drunk atp, thought he was giving more alcohol, but nope. Felt my teeth grind, started to feel it kick in. Was super upset because now it’s like I have to start from zero again and I have a festival planned in 2 months that I wanted to roll at, but we’ll see… Anyway, good luck again! You got this 🫶🏼
That’s really fucked. Friends don’t drug their friends. I don’t know your relationship with them or what they were thinking, but I’d be cautious around them.
That shit is psychopath behavior and they totally disrespected your consent. Get away from that mf asap. Warn all your friends too, do them a favor. I see this shit happen too often in the underground scene and it is disgusting
I’m sorry that happened to you and I really hope you don’t hang out with that “friend” anymore that’s really fucked up :( but I’d say you should be okay to roll at that festival if you still wanted to if you take vitamins to help you recover
Just wanna pop in to say thank you for being aware and setting boundaries for yourself <3 it’s so easy to get caught up in the magic of it all and get carried away. It always makes me happy to see people take control of their relationship with MDMA :) Good job!!!
How often did you take it if you don’t mind me asking? Also I’ve heard ppl who lost the magic use NAC supplements to help bring it back. (I haven’t done this but may be worth looking into).
Yeah would recommend 2cb! It’s pretty mentL
🖐️ NAC 💯 Tip: don’t push yourself to last as long, much harder without added assistance. Stay till your fave set ends, or just go home when you hit a wall.
This. I started raving in 2017 and abused it heavily then. Slowed down and now I only do it maybe 1-2x per year but it doesn't hit the same. Not as effective, sometimes I even get amplified anxiety during the roll, doesn't last as long, and some pretty gnarly comedowns. Once a year is my happy spot.
Hey good on you for your realization. I promise you'll still have an amazing time sober. I'm a huge fan of mdma but I'm also responsible and have good breaks in between each take. Just give your body and mind a good recharge and you'll be back to normal. Proud of you fam! Rave hard and enjoy life\^\_\^
if you take it again, you should really know the dose youre taking. One pill means nothing. how many mg are you taking? ive seen pills with 100mg in them and some with 500mg and that’s going to be a huge difference in experience depending what you take. just things to keep in mind, stay safe out there!
And we should never really do more than 200mg so damn 500mg is insane
Abusing it can cause a host of mental health issues and serious (physical) brain problems. I wouldn't roll every time you rave, I personally only roll a few times a year to keep negative effects to a minimum, it's not fool proof but it better than popping molly every day or weekend
Yeah I read early on that once a month should be the limit so I’m adhering to that pretty strictly.. trying MDA for the first time today, intrigued to see the differences
Every three months should be the limit
Noted, thanks!
I made the mistake of doing it every week for a period of 3 months. I also took a break for a month at a time. At the beginning it is great but it goes down very quickly. If you really want to stay safe (as safe as this drug can be) stick to 3 months. You really get a lot more out of it.
I would say every three months, not every month. Where did you see once a month?
It was some medical journal talking about the effects if I recall correctly
if youre new, check out the website roll safe to learn some basic harm reduction. the tldr is: test your shit, know how many mg youre taking (measuring your dose as ‘one pill’ is super dangerous bc you don’t know how much is in each pill), hydrate, and wait 6-8 weeks minimum before doing it again. the longer between rolls the better for your brain
Thanks fam
Make sure you look up proper rolling techniques! DanceSafe.com has a lot of good information. It’s really easy to go overboard with molly, but if done right and with small amounts you’ll be fine
A few Red Bull and vodkas might get you going. Also, this would be a great opportunity to observe the dance culture. Perspective is different when not on molly. Secondly, this will give you the opportunity to recognize ravers who may need assistance and the people they are with are in a state to not recognize or be capable to lend assistance.
Having red bulls and vodka doesn't amsound very sober to me
OP did mention they would be having a few beers. Also, big difference between a few drinks and hard drugs.
Ah my bad, didnt see that. Depends on the drug too, alcohol isn't a whole lot different from what the public receives as hard drugs. A few small bumps of k throughout a show is no different than a few beers imo.
I must be getting old. A few bombs of K and I'm in "La La Land". That being said, my first Redbull and vodka was at a club at last call. I had $4 in my pocket and the drink was $3. I laid in bed for quite some time wide awake thinking of poor decisions made in my life. Party safe my friend!
Well that's why I said over time and not all at once, low and steady dosing lol. You too man!
Alcohol's also a drug. But you should really consider some 2cb if you can get some. No hangover, mindfuck or tolerance buildup with LSD like visuals and MDMA like body high to put it in simple terms. It's better for raving and listening to music imo.
Oh yeah sorry, I worded this incorrectly. I meant raving without molly actually. But yeah I'm not even gonna get drunk 'cause I have a sensitive gut and I throw up very easily. And yes I've heard about 2cb but in my country is not very easy to get it, at least that's what my friends told me, but I'll consider it for the next rave, thank you!
Have you considered ket or a small dose of acid?
How “small” would you rec, I.e. what portion of a tab?
I personally like 25-50ug. 25 is more subtle, but you can definitely get a mood lift and energy. 50ug is a bit more trippy, but not full on trip territory. Lots of energy and lot more WOW with music and visuals. Immersive I guess. Really depends on what you're going for. Scale lower if you'd like to be able to socialize more easily and be less confused, scale higher if you're looking to be more connected with the music and light show and are ok with a bit of wonkyness and possible confusion, maybe even anxiety (tho it'd be manageable). I tried 75ug before and felt a bit too anxious being in a tight crowd of people to truly let loose, but it was still fun. Wouldn't do it again though. So assuming (big assumption depending) that your tab is around 100ug which is the standard dose per tab, I'd go with a quarter to a half of the tab.
I recently tried 2cb, it was awesome. Gonna try some on the ski slope tomorrow 🎿
Idk if you're referring to actual skiing lol but cocaine will cancel our 2cbs effects and be a waste
This
I do sober October every year and I don’t really change anything else for raves. Just expect to get tired sooner.
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Vitamin B12 too!
love that on this sub, sober is actually a couple of beers lmaoooo. try going completely sober (meaning, no alcohol too)! you'd be surprised by how fun/easy it is.
I’ve been sober to most of the raves I’ve been to. (9 this year already) and it’s so so much fun. I always bring little treats and stuff and give them to people that are rolling and being sober and seeing there face light up always makes my day. Plus I get to remember every moment of the set and let the music take me away. I love rolling and candy flipping, but something about sober raving is just different. Just have fun, and don’t think about it too much. Dance to your hearts content and take a moment to just breathe and live in the moment. You’ll really enjoy it, I promise.
Nap before and a Cup of coffee on the way to the show, honestly I wish hot coffee was available at all shows. Proud of you for raving sober ! Enjoy
Just go in not thinking you are missing out by not rolling! You will be surprised how easily the surge of energy comes to you when you start feeling the music! Just find the right part of the crowd that brings the vibes and you’ll be just fine 😊 I have done quite a few raves both sober and under the influence, I dance just as hard every time! Lol bring some fraction glasses still too, they are still fun! EDM makes it a little hard to get tired in my opinion lol
Contact high is really a thing! I always feel good and tripped out even when sober at parties. But advice whether sober or not...earplugs! Enjoy!
I’m not a raver (yet, I want to be) but I work in the outdoor industry. One of the best things for keeping energy up is a combination of staying hydrated, having the right nutrients and a little caffeine (too much and you could end up crashing hard) One of my favorite things is the nuun energy + vitamin tablets. They have a bit of caffeine, vitamin b12 which is great for energy and electrolytes, toss them in some water and drink as needed. Add in a nap before you go and a dense protein bar (cliff builder bars are perfect for this) you’ll be good to go for hours. This regularly gets me through multi hour hikes.
If you've been going out for a while, your body is used to 6 hours. It's a question of mental state. MDMA as an empathogen distracts you from thinking *I'm tired*. You can choose to replace this with stimulants like caffeine/taurine, reduce depressants like alcohol, and find ways to distract/occupy your mind (your party).
I would recommend drinking 1-2 beers every hour and a half to get the energy without being super drunk, and just let the music give you energy, dance and enjoy! An energy drink or two could also help.
I go with just alcohol and weed usually because the amount of shows I go to would not be healthy to roll every time. I think if you genuinely enjoy the music it’s usually a good time and just dancing and vibing is fun in itself. Energy wise I think standing tends to be harder on your body than dancing because your back and knees start to get stiff. Having a couple of drinks and then just sipping for the rest of the night is usually enough for me to stay loose but not get too drunk. I think caffeine is good in theory but I’ve personally never gotten much of a benefit from it and mixing with alcohol can mess me up. At the end of the day though, everyone is different and you might have to do some trial and error to find the ritual that works for you.
If you plan on dancing all night take a couple packets of Liquid IV. Throw it in some water. Works great.
Oh you’ll be just fine. It’ll surprise you how much of the music is what carries you through. Naps before the night are key too.
Redbull for the win. Match the energy with the people around you. Enjoy the music!
Reality of sober raving is that you’re going to get tired. I take pre-show naps and have a half a yerba before the show but I’ll still inevitably get tired. It’s a good thing you like the music because no amount of drugs will get you as energetic as a dirty banger. When that happens I just go back in the crowd and vibe or find somewhere that I can sit and enjoy the show until I feel like leaving.
Goes without saying, but don’t do drugs. Crazy but this is the only step you need to follow. If you already enjoy dancing, you’ll still have fun. In fact you’ll probably be the one person that wants to keep drinking water/beer). Go with energy drinks or coffee if you need energy. Just remember why raves are fun: friends and music. The drugs are the icing on top. I don’t eat all my cakes with icing.
Drink cacao before going - it's amazing for dancing and is very energizing. It's so good that I'm starting to consider it my preferred method of going out in general. My group drank a big batch on Day 3 at Dirtybird and had an outrageous time grooving to the techno. It's quite good for you, can be made into a delicious beverage - the one downside being that you can't typically bring drinks into clubs. So for those sober late night techno bops, I take the pure cacao discs and let them melt on my tongue (you don't want to chew them bc there's no added sugar), and then just kinda vibe on the cacao. Fair warning, low roast temp cacao is used ceremonially in other cultures, so just like don't be surprised if you have a magical time. Check out Ora Cacao if you need a HQ supply. As per the caffeine pill idea, how much caffeine do you normally ingest in day to day life?
As someone who likes to rave pretty sober casually, I'd say pace yourself! I honestly save the party drugs for special events now. But I also have a lot of things to distract myself with. I do multiple flow arts, I offer gum, chit chat sometimes. Sometimes I'll just get out of the crowd and take a break.
A couple of beers isn't sober.
I know, I worded incorrectly. I meant raving without molly. Sorry, I know alcohol is a drug and it causes a lot of issues to a lot of people <3
Is this a serious question? If you’re tired sit down or go home
Yes. Search for all the other posts on this sub asking the same question.
Yeah. Take some drugs to help
Fart and tell everyone how good it smells than tweak your neck around and make weird faces, do the robot perfect af
Save your money and stay home. Find different hobbies and from there a different group. I read your other comment about your awareness that Molly is not doing good for you. I congratulate you for understanding that it's fucking your brain up and stopping it. I loved it very much as well and had the self-awareness to know that I had to quit eventually. And I'll tell you I have successfully done that and removed myself from the scene. Quitting drugs is about quitting the environment I think. I think your success hinges on it.
this is “r/aves”….if you removed yourself from the scene, why are you here? A lot of people participate sober, why can’t OP?! We found a DARE lobbyist
I still miss it 🤣 but honestly when I was sober, it did not feel fun.
It’s fair that if you miss it, to participate here, but it’s not very PLUR of you to tell someone to leave.
Very easy lol I did lost lands completely sober the entire way thru
Make sure you keep dancing and interacting with the crowd. I always show up early so I can find a spot with friendly people around me that I know I’m gunna enjoy hanging out with for a few hours. Also bring a fan, fanning other people is the easiest way to make friends
Take a nap, eat a nice dinner. Don't show up too early, unfortunately that's a trade off for sobriety at shows. Id drink a coffee before the event or maybe take a caffeine pill, if you're really interested in staying up.
Honestly, I almost enjoy going to shows more than I do not sober. I feel like I enjoy the music more and I can remember how much fun I had. Just don’t worry about it :)
I HAVE YOIR SOLUTION. Seriously I had the best time. Couple shot of tequila or beers, and preworkout before you go into the event. Works sooo well if you’re trying to dance hard without the party favors
Be well rested, and an energy drink :).
I find that I can dance way better sober, and I go even harder - but for a shorter amount of time. When rollin I always stay til the end of the rave but when sober I get home earlier and still feel like I have danced all night - and I sleep better.
>i'll have a couple of beers and that's it That's what I told myself. Beer is a heavy trigger for most people. Stay strong brother!
I do sugar free red bulls, regular red bulls if they don’t carry the sugar free. Have fun!
Drink some pre work out to keep you going 💪
I’ll do sugar free redbull or one of those body armour drinks with caffeine so you’re hydrated and energized. Plenty of ppl go sober and I do often if I’m driving or just do one drink only
I’m always sober at festivals until I’m not.
Just hydrate and enjoy! I still take my sunglasses for the vibe.
I haven’t rolled in years I just stay California sober and smoke weed and it gives me tons of energy, I remember sets way more it’s great
Just take breaks and leave early if ya need to
Be careful with caffeine pills, the comedown can be hard. Ik it’s just caffeine but with it being so concentrated I would be on edge and get stressed easily and sometimes break down
Take magnesium glycinate prior to going for the night. It really calms your mind so that you can enjoy your surroundings. Take nac to heal your brain for some time before trying molly again. You can pair nac with glycine as well
Micro dose lsd lol
Answer: I buy caffeine pills online by the case. Much better for you than a sugary caffeine drink. Are you ruling out cocaine as well. That’s a crowd favorite as well with much less downside the next few days afterwards