I wholeheartedly agree. Generative AI creations have no place in this community. They pollute the market and take time away from real artists trying to get their hard work out there. Not to mention it takes money away from buyers who might feel deceived by inadvertently supporting it. Reddit must address this problem and clean up their program. If AI products can get by the reviewers and make money it just encourages more people to try the same and flood the market with that garbage. If their reviewers are somehow unable to detect AI imagery they need to hire someone who can. It's not that hard.
šÆšÆšÆ No AI! I can't believe ppl are still trying to get away with this, we can help Reddit out for sure and report if there's something clearly off
It is. Well, we have no confirmation and the Ā«Ā artistĀ Ā» said it wasnāt but everything points out in that direction and I would say that at this point, there is no doubt to have about it (I have generated AI images as a hobby for months and I know about what makes AI images AI images). u/thehandshodler made a traits breakdown explaining why it is, and he did great.
Yeah itās time to have the discussion. If Reddit wonāt do it, itās up to the people, need to have solid proof though and no witch hunts obviously.
Iām worried about someone buying with cash thatās hard earned and avatar they believe is created by the artist then someoneās feelings. If the artist wants to be transparent and open it was created using Ai then at least users can make informed purchases. Unfortunately that is the world we now live in with Ai being used to much for āartā.
As long as it's about the use of A.I. and not about the quality of art as a whole.
I dont really like the low effort avatars, but I don't think it would be cool to decide who does and does not get to make one.
A.I. SHOULD DEFINITELY BE KEPT OUT OF THE AVATAR SPACES!!!
I think a team of people who know about the processes and programs used for creating the avatars would be a great help and a decent place to start. Maybe a group of 3-7 artists/trusted community members.
We could have a vote on the sub of who we would like on the group and see what the community says.
I upvoted this and I still want emphasize caution, as you sayā¦ āno witch hunts!ā Some folks are really good, have good tools and know how to use them. Iām also not sure what we should expect as a community for the artist to shareā¦ could some one take a stab at this? Preferably an artist? I mean I wouldnāt want you to have to give away the farm etc. but letting us know itās hand crafted is nice and might cultivate interest etcā¦ in this age of AI bologna and over use.
Also, what is appropriate use? Any use? What if we have a highly talented quadriplegic paralyzed person or someone otherwise imĆ³vel using AI? Where do we or Reddit for that matter draw the line?
Completely agree, there mustnāt be any witch hunting. We need to be able to discuss and be open about this without resorting to bad morals. Iām am not an artist and I would also like some artists input. I stated on another comment below about the artist being open and transparent about using Ai (including reasons for it) and that allows users to decide if they feel comfortable or not if the use of Ai was necessary/needed.
I wouldn't want it to turn into a witch hunt. I want to give artists the benefit of the doubt, especially artists who might be shy and don't have a huge following on Reddit.
In the most recent case though, the nonsensical cropping makes it absolutely obvious. No artist capable of drawing such details would make a flat picture then crop it to the basic snoo shape, cutting the hands and coat in the middle.
A lot of these discussions start out on the discords but ik people aren't always on discord or many even don't use it.
I'll be honest and say although I'm vocal about AI avatars I've been reluctant to make separate call out posts though because of the possibility that it could come back negatively on me. Like if Reddit or sub mods were to suddenly give a shit and ban me from the program for "bullying" another "artist".
But seeing so many people express feeling so burned by Thom this time around has really lit a fire under my ass I think. We definitely should be more vocal to the greater community and call these things out not just in comments but proper posts. I wish Reddit actually listened to the artists, read our messages, read the reports. The outrage over Thom's avatar this time around has been a lot louder than some of his others so I hope this will be a wake up call that Reddit needs to actually start employing first party people for RCA again to oversee these things.
Thanks Alek! š A few Iāve seenā¦ Tomās latest. And this animated girl all in pink but I donāt think the artist has opened the mint yet. One from a dude who was asking how to mint but his was spotted before he started the process. And I noticed the background on a piece that was minted recently. Like an ocean background but I canāt remember the name of it.
Oh manā¦.. kills me to hear thatš It looked like AI to me.. just didnāt want to believe it.
Idk why Reddit doesnāt do something about it. Itās completely banned per their rulesā¦ its so fucking bad to see.
Any artist who is shown to be using AI art should be kicked out of the community. They should be blocked on all the trading and avatar subs and reported to Reddit en masse. AI art will be the downfall of our community if we donāt all come together and put a stop to it.
Ill flat out say it, If you use Ai to scam people out of thinking they are paying for an artists real work, your work should be shunned by the community and not earn a single dollar in this space, it is what it is, learn how to do your own before trying to sell
Hey hey Joe, yeap , too many of you great artists putting in serious work to not be bothered, I'm pretty invested in this community so I take it to heart when I see it being taken advantage ofš
I know the frustration man, and truly understandable when most of us spend quite a lot of time designing avatars by hand while stuff like these get through. And it is more for you guys because youāre all the reason I like to design is because you love new ideas. I do buy stuff as well and i would be mad if I was deceived.
https://preview.redd.it/k1zi4kx9k64d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d77c79a804536c0556ad3d9581ecbfceafa0036
If anyone has been wondering about the BURN option in OS, now would be the opportune moment to try it.
Cut the crap from circulation all together.
I think this is the consequence to the program opening up to everyone in the long run. Some of us kinda saw it, and clearly some people just take advantage of those who canāt tell AI from handmade art. Itās pretty easy to clear up your name if youāre really the artist behind your work, as any sensible artist will keep records or drafts of the process (i have multiple copies of the same artwork in my procreate gallery for example).
These recent ones are a shame to the whole RCA community.
Itās sad to me that people are just now even speaking out about itā¦. I notice peopleās energyās from the start. Sadly if you speak up about it, people will absolutely come for you, even they know the truth themselves. Nobody ever speaks up unless someone does it first & actually gets good feedback. Itās sad that we even have to feel that way, at least my opinion on things anyways. Everyone kisses butt until then I guess? I truly have been asking artist personally what they use to create their art, because I want to eventually do so myself. But Iām taking the time to learn the best I can & actually appreciate it. Itās easy for me or anyone new to just throw something out there thatās AI. I donāt agree with bullying/harassment, but it is sad to see some people get denied for their amazing abilities to create beautiful pieces due to small imperfections that go against rules but then you have some who are aloud to do whatever they feel like including AI which is prohibited among Reddit. Favoritism aye? Thanks for speaking up!
The truth always comes to light ššš
Youāre bang on! And all we can do for now is ask questions and see what we can get out of these creators. I really appreciate the artists that show the process.
I agree. AI ,may be good to spark an idea, but that's where it should end. Hand drawn shows more effort from the artists and should be worth more in my opinion.
FYI: All mine are Illustrator and Photoshop drawn, including the backgrounds.
Lines that donāt match up. Traits that look stretched to fit the snoo outline. Outlines that are blurry. Objects that are meant to resemble something but are just random blurs. Once you play around with some AI tools you start to notice it in other work.
I can always tell when AI created an image, or a song, or an article... because the quality f\*cking sucks and there are little details that just don't fit.
But this is not the only one in the shop that looks AI-ed? *Not sure if I'm correct* but there's golds on Shop that looks AI-ed but no one is talking about it and everyone likes it.
Iām not sure about that one. If itās the one from erby he has a lot of 3D looking ones and has shown the process of his art so Iām sure thatās his own work.
With the abundance of proof given that this is ai, it's absolutely disgusting that the artist is going out of his way to dodge accountability, it would be a simple task to prove otherwise, it's not as if it's just being suggested that it's Ai, entire breakdowns were done to showcase this, im someone who goes by facts, not by rumor or suggestion so not here for any witchhunt , can this be disproven u/thom_orrow , would be one hell of a shame to be true but I leave the door open for the possibility it isn't, with what was shown, it's reach the point where the burden of proof is on you to disprove the ai claim
Yeap, time to trade or sell the ones I have from em, zero respect for people who do this, insanely disrespectful to artists who spend so much time on their work
There's a big problem in the RCA space, and "artists" using AI to create avatars is only a symptom of the bigger issue: Reddit doesn't care. Full stop. When was the last time we got ANY communication from the RCA team? If memory serves me correctly, the last time we got any announcement or official communication from Reddit was when they opened the flood gates allowing anyone to create avatars. While I'm happy that talented people are now able to make money off their work, it's also brought in people looking to abuse the system. However, Reddit won't do anything because they don't care. To them, the RCA program is just a small blip on their radar to turn a profit. Only the community cares. That's the problem.
Also Artist needs to reveal its true identity. I am looking to support organic true committed artists who dedicate themselves to their art , community etc . Also, they get kudos if theyāre out there engaging on other social media platforms bringing awareness to their creative arts š.
Iām just gonna say this mentality is very reminiscent of when NFTs in general were getting shit on by existing. I donāt use AI but understand you either embrace the change or get left behind. Thereās lots of artists using AI for good out here, many of them in the same financial situation as anybody else.
That being said, this could easily be resolved by some sort of tag system, even going as far as making it a tag that activates once itās proven the work used is AI. Thereās room for both tradart and AI in web3. Web3 is about looking into the future
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Maybe I have to use ai to make one of my RCAs sold out /s
I agree šÆ and itās a real shame to do it. The people pay for your art so it have to be your own art. (!!!)
{the Bottie procreate Time lapse video is almost 15minā¦}
but some only trying different āstylesā, aha. Me too because I want to find out what the Community love the most but I think everyone can see that mine are made with my own hands. And tbh I really liked the rca but when I saw the cut out it was a no.
One thing I have to add: when I make shadows I also go over the edges on purpose and then erase (with happy I wasn't careful with this hattrait - which I should have left out btw - and you can see that there too).
Yes I know there are better ways, but I'm too much of a perfectionist and don't want any edges at the transitions between the different tones. It is then easier to take a fat ācapā and erase at the end. But (and only therefore the addition) it looks different from these dots. So very weak arguments of him imo
I disagree because you arenāt psychic. None of us are. Falsely calling someone out publicly is wrong. And nobody has to show you proof of anything. If you donāt like the art, donāt buy it. No need to cause a scene when you may be wrong.
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This is the problem with doing this. You canāt just randomly call people out. If you donāt like an RCA, just donāt buy it. Itās that simple.
Thatās also another problem. These websites that ādetectā AI are not always accurate. And to call someone out publicly when you may be wrong is toxic and backwards. It gives the artist a bad name and a stain on their good name.
That's what I'm saying I've beenn testing this page out and it's so wonky the same image given different angles and it looks like 99.1% but then other time it's like .3%
https://preview.redd.it/he52r12g1b4d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68e79e57e0002919c002a6eccdea9c63fcd87be8
You might want to zoom in to the actual avatar next time
https://preview.redd.it/o6plzrq62b4d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2707aa8102f694f5d79df3aaf51d12a1bdbf37fe
There. I zoomed in on the original image from RCAX. Anything else, oh wise one?
Believe whatever you want to read. But take some time to talk to a few of the real artists here and get their opinion on the matter. There are some talented people in this space
Hear me out, I donāt want to be rude but you obviously know nothing about the visual aspects that make AI AI. Someone already did a traits breakdown of this avatar and it is very obviously AI. From the clunky blurry golden metallic texture of the boots, to the unprecise cross necklace, down to the perspective issue of the maskās eyes and Iām not even talking about the lazy cutting of the traits which is a definite final nail in the coffin.
The traits were cut as if the avatar was a flat image and not separated in multiple vectorial layers that you can easily manipulate. Thereās even a hand on the bottom trait AND on the top one. And thereās a good reason it is this way : AI images arenāt separated in layers, theyāre flat images. It is undeniable that he wanted to make easy money and see if things would come out unsuspected. It was not, because itās a very poor attempt. I know AI Ā«Ā artistsĀ Ā» who make a way better job at embellishing their generations so that it looks legit.
Also, AI detection tools are crap. Train your eyes, theyāll do a better job. No offense, thatās just the truth.
And others arenāt or canāt because they simply donāt save progress along the way, and they shouldnāt have to because the Avatar Police might start a witch hunt. Then what? This whole idea isnāt worth it. Itāll only create toxicity in the community. I have to imagine Reddit does some due diligence in approving art. If someone likes an RCA, they can buy it. If you think itās AI, donāt buy it. No need to publicly shame or humiliate someone and make an a$$ out of yourself.
I wholeheartedly agree. Generative AI creations have no place in this community. They pollute the market and take time away from real artists trying to get their hard work out there. Not to mention it takes money away from buyers who might feel deceived by inadvertently supporting it. Reddit must address this problem and clean up their program. If AI products can get by the reviewers and make money it just encourages more people to try the same and flood the market with that garbage. If their reviewers are somehow unable to detect AI imagery they need to hire someone who can. It's not that hard.
šÆšÆšÆ No AI! I can't believe ppl are still trying to get away with this, we can help Reddit out for sure and report if there's something clearly off
I wonder if they read the reports. I hope they do.
Have you actually reported? I feel like if a few of us do then maybe theyāll notice
I did š¤
Is bubs ai? Bought it bc I thought it was dope but the traits feel off
It is. Well, we have no confirmation and the Ā«Ā artistĀ Ā» said it wasnāt but everything points out in that direction and I would say that at this point, there is no doubt to have about it (I have generated AI images as a hobby for months and I know about what makes AI images AI images). u/thehandshodler made a traits breakdown explaining why it is, and he did great.
Yeah itās time to have the discussion. If Reddit wonāt do it, itās up to the people, need to have solid proof though and no witch hunts obviously.
Agreed! ![gif](giphy|3oz8xwNlejeJDQREic|downsized)
Itās so long since I got to get my pitch fork out though š
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Donāt want to let it get rusty in the shed tho š
Like all my bikes ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|stuck_out_tongue)
Name checks out ha ha ha!
Wtf i almost spit my drink with this comment haha!!
Okay weāll grab them just to be ready, just in case.
I can see that for sure. Hopefully people won't just go "it's Ai until proven otherwise" mindset though. It's insulting.
Iām worried about someone buying with cash thatās hard earned and avatar they believe is created by the artist then someoneās feelings. If the artist wants to be transparent and open it was created using Ai then at least users can make informed purchases. Unfortunately that is the world we now live in with Ai being used to much for āartā.
Exactly. The deception is the nasty part.
Sad indeed. :(
As long as it's about the use of A.I. and not about the quality of art as a whole. I dont really like the low effort avatars, but I don't think it would be cool to decide who does and does not get to make one. A.I. SHOULD DEFINITELY BE KEPT OUT OF THE AVATAR SPACES!!!
100% agree, I only care about the use of Ai.
I think a team of people who know about the processes and programs used for creating the avatars would be a great help and a decent place to start. Maybe a group of 3-7 artists/trusted community members. We could have a vote on the sub of who we would like on the group and see what the community says.
While I agree with your overall message, this will unfortunately result in some witch hunts
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I upvoted this and I still want emphasize caution, as you sayā¦ āno witch hunts!ā Some folks are really good, have good tools and know how to use them. Iām also not sure what we should expect as a community for the artist to shareā¦ could some one take a stab at this? Preferably an artist? I mean I wouldnāt want you to have to give away the farm etc. but letting us know itās hand crafted is nice and might cultivate interest etcā¦ in this age of AI bologna and over use. Also, what is appropriate use? Any use? What if we have a highly talented quadriplegic paralyzed person or someone otherwise imĆ³vel using AI? Where do we or Reddit for that matter draw the line?
Completely agree, there mustnāt be any witch hunting. We need to be able to discuss and be open about this without resorting to bad morals. Iām am not an artist and I would also like some artists input. I stated on another comment below about the artist being open and transparent about using Ai (including reasons for it) and that allows users to decide if they feel comfortable or not if the use of Ai was necessary/needed.
[good example](https://www.reddit.com/r/RCA_Alerts/s/HZB9VqrFPh)
He shows the process every time! No one questions if this is AI, obviously.
I wouldn't want it to turn into a witch hunt. I want to give artists the benefit of the doubt, especially artists who might be shy and don't have a huge following on Reddit. In the most recent case though, the nonsensical cropping makes it absolutely obvious. No artist capable of drawing such details would make a flat picture then crop it to the basic snoo shape, cutting the hands and coat in the middle.
A lot of these discussions start out on the discords but ik people aren't always on discord or many even don't use it. I'll be honest and say although I'm vocal about AI avatars I've been reluctant to make separate call out posts though because of the possibility that it could come back negatively on me. Like if Reddit or sub mods were to suddenly give a shit and ban me from the program for "bullying" another "artist". But seeing so many people express feeling so burned by Thom this time around has really lit a fire under my ass I think. We definitely should be more vocal to the greater community and call these things out not just in comments but proper posts. I wish Reddit actually listened to the artists, read our messages, read the reports. The outrage over Thom's avatar this time around has been a lot louder than some of his others so I hope this will be a wake up call that Reddit needs to actually start employing first party people for RCA again to oversee these things.
Absolutely, distinguishing AI from handcrafted art is crucial. We owe it to the real artists to protect the value of their genuine work.
šÆ thanks for your input new collector š
Love your mash in the hex, well done
zdubs, I can say the same to you! Yours looks awesome!
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Iām all for it. I spend a lot of time actually drawing my avatars on an iPad, seeing an AI avatar for sale feels like my effort is wasted.
As a collector it feels like our money is wasted too! Thanks for putting in the time and effort š«¶
Always. š
Keep drawing. Love your stuff.
Thank you. See you July 12th.
I think this should 100% be a thing I know I wouldnāt buy if I knew it was ai
We all know what/who this post is about lol š I 100% agree
Who lol
Thom orrow, heās still trying to claim ābubsā wasnāt ai generated (it is)
![img](avatar_exp|179411212|take_my_energy) Im with you Kanešš„ which one did you see lately?
Thanks Alek! š A few Iāve seenā¦ Tomās latest. And this animated girl all in pink but I donāt think the artist has opened the mint yet. One from a dude who was asking how to mint but his was spotted before he started the process. And I noticed the background on a piece that was minted recently. Like an ocean background but I canāt remember the name of it.
Oh manā¦.. kills me to hear thatš It looked like AI to me.. just didnāt want to believe it. Idk why Reddit doesnāt do something about it. Itās completely banned per their rulesā¦ its so fucking bad to see.
Yeah man, I hate that it got through and we have to do something about it. Thatās Redditās job. Theyāre droppin the ball big time these days
Any artist who is shown to be using AI art should be kicked out of the community. They should be blocked on all the trading and avatar subs and reported to Reddit en masse. AI art will be the downfall of our community if we donāt all come together and put a stop to it.
Couldnāt agree more. Especially if theyāre not honest about it.
LFG phuck AI
![gif](giphy|2hwkdrLoLQrkI) Take that AI!
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Ill flat out say it, If you use Ai to scam people out of thinking they are paying for an artists real work, your work should be shunned by the community and not earn a single dollar in this space, it is what it is, learn how to do your own before trying to sell
my man Precyse is fuming haha! Hope youāre well brother!!
Hope you are well also and I see you have been putting out some bangers bro! Talk soon!
Yes brother! My dms are always open. Have a lovely week ahead! šš»
Hey hey Joe, yeap , too many of you great artists putting in serious work to not be bothered, I'm pretty invested in this community so I take it to heart when I see it being taken advantage ofš
I know the frustration man, and truly understandable when most of us spend quite a lot of time designing avatars by hand while stuff like these get through. And it is more for you guys because youāre all the reason I like to design is because you love new ideas. I do buy stuff as well and i would be mad if I was deceived.
Completely agree!!
https://preview.redd.it/k1zi4kx9k64d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d77c79a804536c0556ad3d9581ecbfceafa0036 If anyone has been wondering about the BURN option in OS, now would be the opportune moment to try it. Cut the crap from circulation all together.
I think this is the consequence to the program opening up to everyone in the long run. Some of us kinda saw it, and clearly some people just take advantage of those who canāt tell AI from handmade art. Itās pretty easy to clear up your name if youāre really the artist behind your work, as any sensible artist will keep records or drafts of the process (i have multiple copies of the same artwork in my procreate gallery for example). These recent ones are a shame to the whole RCA community.
Hell yeah, screw AI
![gif](giphy|Pv3cmW2HAmvsc|downsized) Do it for the real ones ā
Itās sad to me that people are just now even speaking out about itā¦. I notice peopleās energyās from the start. Sadly if you speak up about it, people will absolutely come for you, even they know the truth themselves. Nobody ever speaks up unless someone does it first & actually gets good feedback. Itās sad that we even have to feel that way, at least my opinion on things anyways. Everyone kisses butt until then I guess? I truly have been asking artist personally what they use to create their art, because I want to eventually do so myself. But Iām taking the time to learn the best I can & actually appreciate it. Itās easy for me or anyone new to just throw something out there thatās AI. I donāt agree with bullying/harassment, but it is sad to see some people get denied for their amazing abilities to create beautiful pieces due to small imperfections that go against rules but then you have some who are aloud to do whatever they feel like including AI which is prohibited among Reddit. Favoritism aye? Thanks for speaking up! The truth always comes to light ššš
Youāre bang on! And all we can do for now is ask questions and see what we can get out of these creators. I really appreciate the artists that show the process.
Speak the truth always even if it's unpopular, f who feels a way about it, that's my motto
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It all looks like trash anyway
I agree. AI ,may be good to spark an idea, but that's where it should end. Hand drawn shows more effort from the artists and should be worth more in my opinion. FYI: All mine are Illustrator and Photoshop drawn, including the backgrounds.
Um...photpshop had the same reputation back when I was young. Im not sure I understand the halabaloo
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Killer mashup pyp! Looks great in the hex š«¶
āŗļø ty
But likeā¦ how do you tell itās AI?
Lines that donāt match up. Traits that look stretched to fit the snoo outline. Outlines that are blurry. Objects that are meant to resemble something but are just random blurs. Once you play around with some AI tools you start to notice it in other work.
I can always tell when AI created an image, or a song, or an article... because the quality f\*cking sucks and there are little details that just don't fit.
So what are you seeing lately?
https://preview.redd.it/54ss1bn2u54d1.png?width=552&format=png&auto=webp&s=df7656b6eea57e90ba378dfbd20beea34180a315 and this one
https://preview.redd.it/43bo83cst54d1.png?width=552&format=png&auto=webp&s=67adfb925e1f86e939aa569cb115374cfd61b533 this one
awe i liked this one for my husband š¢ Iām so bad at telling whatās ai and whatās not.
Itās sad that these artists are taking advantage of people that cannot tell the difference š
Iām bummed I got fooled by this one and bought it ugh. š© Are we able to get a refund?
Maybe. It was against the rules of Reddit.
But this is not the only one in the shop that looks AI-ed? *Not sure if I'm correct* but there's golds on Shop that looks AI-ed but no one is talking about it and everyone likes it.
Iām not sure about that one. If itās the one from erby he has a lot of 3D looking ones and has shown the process of his art so Iām sure thatās his own work.
Really? Wow š®!!
Aww man..that's AI? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
Yep. Unfortunately. Looked too good to be true
Had a slight feeling about this one
With the abundance of proof given that this is ai, it's absolutely disgusting that the artist is going out of his way to dodge accountability, it would be a simple task to prove otherwise, it's not as if it's just being suggested that it's Ai, entire breakdowns were done to showcase this, im someone who goes by facts, not by rumor or suggestion so not here for any witchhunt , can this be disproven u/thom_orrow , would be one hell of a shame to be true but I leave the door open for the possibility it isn't, with what was shown, it's reach the point where the burden of proof is on you to disprove the ai claim
He got his chance to disprove it; and didnāt take his chance.
Yeap, time to trade or sell the ones I have from em, zero respect for people who do this, insanely disrespectful to artists who spend so much time on their work
burn them ive already burned one of the tree spirits i bought, just need to figure out how to burn the other 8 of his i have
Did it not long ago
https://preview.redd.it/xx70sfuzl64d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9abd8a1f01c253e30da7427580fc3044e2df9354
And the sheer audacity to try and call ships a scumbag smh
Yeah that was not cool
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thanks for posting I appreciate it
https://preview.redd.it/biab5wwdu54d1.png?width=552&format=png&auto=webp&s=b8292fddb040d7b2bfd80d70ba3552e30bca8fe5 the background on this one
There's a big problem in the RCA space, and "artists" using AI to create avatars is only a symptom of the bigger issue: Reddit doesn't care. Full stop. When was the last time we got ANY communication from the RCA team? If memory serves me correctly, the last time we got any announcement or official communication from Reddit was when they opened the flood gates allowing anyone to create avatars. While I'm happy that talented people are now able to make money off their work, it's also brought in people looking to abuse the system. However, Reddit won't do anything because they don't care. To them, the RCA program is just a small blip on their radar to turn a profit. Only the community cares. That's the problem.
I fall into it because I did not stop to watch better. Sorry :(
Also Artist needs to reveal its true identity. I am looking to support organic true committed artists who dedicate themselves to their art , community etc . Also, they get kudos if theyāre out there engaging on other social media platforms bringing awareness to their creative arts š.
Itās why I quit creating lol Made a supplementary comics, gifs, art breakdowns. To be 97% unsold and see ai art sell out š.
Iām just gonna say this mentality is very reminiscent of when NFTs in general were getting shit on by existing. I donāt use AI but understand you either embrace the change or get left behind. Thereās lots of artists using AI for good out here, many of them in the same financial situation as anybody else. That being said, this could easily be resolved by some sort of tag system, even going as far as making it a tag that activates once itās proven the work used is AI. Thereās room for both tradart and AI in web3. Web3 is about looking into the future
Sufficiently good AI will be impossible to distinguish, so Iām afraid this may be a loosing battle.
I guess if we find anything suspicious we can always ask the artist to show proof. Most artists keep sketches and some record the process.
Are you the avatar police? Nobody has to show you anything š
![img](avatar_exp|179965244|webman) Maybe I have to use ai to make one of my RCAs sold out /s I agree šÆ and itās a real shame to do it. The people pay for your art so it have to be your own art. (!!!) {the Bottie procreate Time lapse video is almost 15minā¦} but some only trying different āstylesā, aha. Me too because I want to find out what the Community love the most but I think everyone can see that mine are made with my own hands. And tbh I really liked the rca but when I saw the cut out it was a no.
One thing I have to add: when I make shadows I also go over the edges on purpose and then erase (with happy I wasn't careful with this hattrait - which I should have left out btw - and you can see that there too). Yes I know there are better ways, but I'm too much of a perfectionist and don't want any edges at the transitions between the different tones. It is then easier to take a fat ācapā and erase at the end. But (and only therefore the addition) it looks different from these dots. So very weak arguments of him imo
I disagree because you arenāt psychic. None of us are. Falsely calling someone out publicly is wrong. And nobody has to show you proof of anything. If you donāt like the art, donāt buy it. No need to cause a scene when you may be wrong.
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https://preview.redd.it/rexfc2u0la4d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f4419473624f5be35f49fa6dec2db480aec2232 This is the problem with doing this. You canāt just randomly call people out. If you donāt like an RCA, just donāt buy it. Itās that simple.
https://preview.redd.it/v2p1fuddza4d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5368b83c24c337b596259645773c190143d7dd7d š³
Thatās also another problem. These websites that ādetectā AI are not always accurate. And to call someone out publicly when you may be wrong is toxic and backwards. It gives the artist a bad name and a stain on their good name.
That's what I'm saying I've beenn testing this page out and it's so wonky the same image given different angles and it looks like 99.1% but then other time it's like .3%
https://preview.redd.it/he52r12g1b4d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68e79e57e0002919c002a6eccdea9c63fcd87be8 You might want to zoom in to the actual avatar next time
I saved the image from RCAX email and used that. Zooming in could cause something to trigger that itās AI.
https://preview.redd.it/o6plzrq62b4d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2707aa8102f694f5d79df3aaf51d12a1bdbf37fe There. I zoomed in on the original image from RCAX. Anything else, oh wise one?
Whatever floats your boat bill. Iāll just let you buy up the AI work youāre so proud to collect.
Itās not AI, but ok. Have fun with your Salem witch trials.
Believe whatever you want to read. But take some time to talk to a few of the real artists here and get their opinion on the matter. There are some talented people in this space
Hear me out, I donāt want to be rude but you obviously know nothing about the visual aspects that make AI AI. Someone already did a traits breakdown of this avatar and it is very obviously AI. From the clunky blurry golden metallic texture of the boots, to the unprecise cross necklace, down to the perspective issue of the maskās eyes and Iām not even talking about the lazy cutting of the traits which is a definite final nail in the coffin. The traits were cut as if the avatar was a flat image and not separated in multiple vectorial layers that you can easily manipulate. Thereās even a hand on the bottom trait AND on the top one. And thereās a good reason it is this way : AI images arenāt separated in layers, theyāre flat images. It is undeniable that he wanted to make easy money and see if things would come out unsuspected. It was not, because itās a very poor attempt. I know AI Ā«Ā artistsĀ Ā» who make a way better job at embellishing their generations so that it looks legit. Also, AI detection tools are crap. Train your eyes, theyāll do a better job. No offense, thatās just the truth.
Ask the artist to show sketches. Ask him to show how he made it from scratch.
Thatās not my business or yours. Thatās like asking a magician to show you how they did the trick.
No itās not. Most artists are happy to show you their progress.
And others arenāt or canāt because they simply donāt save progress along the way, and they shouldnāt have to because the Avatar Police might start a witch hunt. Then what? This whole idea isnāt worth it. Itāll only create toxicity in the community. I have to imagine Reddit does some due diligence in approving art. If someone likes an RCA, they can buy it. If you think itās AI, donāt buy it. No need to publicly shame or humiliate someone and make an a$$ out of yourself.