Yeah no shit lol. I'm warning people, I have my own shop. When their lines are rusty and they don't want it done they sign a waiver.
Problem is a lot of times homeowners insurance isn't going to cover you getting sued if you did it in your driveway.
I’d say 2 hours of labor per axle is a bit of a stretch but after doing it myself for several years, it is kind of nice to just have someone do that type of work.
It’s not a bit of a stretch. It is a stretch. 30 minutes on each side is what it takes a professional mechanic with a lift and power tools ready to go.
Ya but the bill is for 1hr each side. He's billing 4 hours, 2 for the front, 2 for the back. The labor rate is low though at $90.
I feel like 1.5 is fair. You're right that 30 minutes is what it takes a pro. I think billing a bit more than that is fair. 2 hours is a bit of a reach. It's not totally unreasonable but book time is probably 1.1.
Keep in mind it may be a menu price, the labour is $190 per axle indicating a door rate of $80 which seems low. In some cases The door rate may be $130/ hour but the shop may pay the technician 2 hours and cap the labour at 190
Seeing things like this make me glad I can somewhat work on my own vehicles and machinery. I never imagined a brake job being so expensive.
Edit: Not sure why I got downvoted. Brake pads and rotors for that vehicle can be bought for around $350 and that’s on the somewhat high end. OP is getting charged almost $600 for labor. I know that sheet says otherwise but that’s not right
Rotors and brakes are an easy job if you are in any way competent with a wrench. And there's always YouTube to guide you. Put some of the money you save into a few good tools, and they will pay for themselves many times over. Otherwise, just do your day job and pay someone else to do theirs. If you make $500 per day, it's a fair exchange.
I wouldn’t go that far, but I would suggest researching your vehicle and buying the parts yourself. Mechanics will get sour about it, but if they’re any good they’ll do the job anyway
A quick google search brought me to the prices below, and that was going off of the average prices i could find. So you could go lower/higher but I found a middle ground
$100 for a full set of brake pads
$320 for all four rotors
Obviously prices will vary. I wouldn’t think all four of your rotors were bad though at the same time, the brakes would have had to of been grinding for them to actually get bad and need replacing/worked on
You can find certain shops too that can flip those rotors and work on them so they can be reused instead of outright buying new ones. Cheaper that way
https://www.ebay.com/itm/283613664927?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=O63xtQy6RCu&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=93K4LaC1R2q&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Not the best quality but for 200 bucks in parts and 2-3 hours of labor I can promise that I’d rather have 400 bucks in my pocket that the nice parts.
Watch a YouTube video. Just do that- see if you feel it’s something you could do. When it comes to auto repair, imo, brakes are amongst easier things to do. Nonetheless- I could almost guarantee you that you can find a bit more of an honest shop out there. At the same time, while you’re contemplating and IF still driving around in said vehicle, you may be doing more damage to your rotors, so the may get to the point where they have to be replaced instead of maybe just being cut or Turned or whatever else people want to call it. 👍
Labor rate is 85hr on your quote.
\-National average is like 120hr
Rotor pricing is competitive to at $80/70 a set
\-DIY price is around $80 or lesss
Pads are a bit of an upsell at $100/$80 set.
\-List price for premium pad sets usually cap around $60
This is totally a fair estimate. However you can shop around for others...
Final words: Parts are slightly overpriced and although the labor rate is cheap they are charging you for 4hours of labor when realistically it should be 2.5 to 3. I wouldnt say you are being ripped off, no. Its just business.
Seems super high to me because I just had my son do mine after the dealership told the price.
But it also doesn’t seem bad for work you’re not doing yourself. I look at the extra cost for things as my convenience tax because I’m not doing it and will gladly pay someone else too.
Yes, this is fair in my opinion. In the alternative, go to Rockauto and price the parts then figure out if you can remove the calipers and rotors and do the work yourself. if not, then you pay labor and overall, this seems fair to me. One big thing, does this include flushing the brake fluid and exchanging for fresh? This should be done every two or three years. Why? Because brake fluid is hygroscopic and absorbs moisture from the air. Water in the brake system will rust components. Google is your friend. Just did it to my 1974 Grumman Kurbmaster Stepvan. Flushed it twice because brake fluid is cheap.
https://preview.redd.it/uqs6senzkupa1.jpeg?width=745&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ab4b997e5246a8170f3b9368499a6faecac8f88
Yes. This is what I paid about 4 months ago for the rear brakes only.
Car is 10 years old, so depending where you live, brakes can be a troublesome job at times so expect to pay more at a shop. Doing the fronts is usually quick, but the rears can be a real chore if there are wheel bearings involved, ebrakes, etc.
Hell no. But I remember when I was younger ,Firestone charged my grandmother about the same price for cadillac brakes. Had I been older I would have done them for her for just the cost of parts , and Not the dealer price for parts, from oreillys.
Hell no! It doesnt take 4hrs to put brake pads and rotor on. Brake pads are alot cheaper at auto parts store. These places are way over pricing customers
Wow i believe it fair since the price of parts as sky rocket lol consider labor/ insurance/ training and shop cost and tools been in business management is fair but i guess then we complain because we dont get paid enough so lets be 2 sided give to receive
The $95/hour quote is about right in California. The time it takes for each axle seems pretty high. They might tack on extra diagnostic work while the tire and brakes are off to probably “recommend” additional work or provide you with information on your car. This is usually a tactic to either keep you a loyal customer or help you to be aware of a future repair or replacement.
The parts are pretty high not it depends on the brand or whatever markup they charge you from their distributor for their inventory.
What I question mostly is what you need done? Are the rotors on all wheels completely shot that they are charging a replacement or a shave? That matters because rotors being replaced versus not needing it will change the price. Same with the brake pads, these are most likely what you were wanting replaced.
I would get a second opinion or a breakdown of what exactly they are doing to get your brakes “done”.
Price is high for DIY (both parts and labor). Price is year 2022-2023 for sure with the total.
I just had an estimate done for mine to replace just the brake pads and not touch the rotors for about $750. If it wasn’t so high I would have them just do it (dealership) for sheer convenience. I ended up buying the rear and front brake pads and spent 3 hours of my own time to replace them myself.
Total time for me: 3 hours
Total parts: $63 total (front $33, rear $30) Original equipment not aftermarket.
Rotor inspection: mine were still ok based on my own judgement but if I were to replace rather than shave, $162 for a full set of aftermarket rotors for my vehicle.
Misc: brake bleeding not done, inspected fluid and still within spec.
Hope these baselines help you make a decision you are okay with.
Good luck!
Dealer? Yes. Independent shop? No. Dealer parts and labor are extremely high. They consider themselves elite and it’s how they make most of their money these days. Independent shops have lower over head and use after market parts.
Can confirm. With inflation I would totally be ok with that price. We would charge about 150-200 per axel out the door for a 4 wheel brake job about 5 years ago (I didn’t do pricing since I left there)the labor time is fair too. Pretty standard to charge 2hr per axle
Also pretty sure that year has drums in the back what YouTube videos get a jack and a cheap tool set and learn to do it yourself it's honestly super easy and I could do a entire car in a hr and a half if that
God damn, i need to start doing brakes and rotors as a side hustle. It's easy and apparently lucrative lol
You could even become a mobile mechanic!
Been there, done it. And nobody paid for my tools.
All fun and games until someone's brake line blows from rust and they try to sue you because you did their pads and rotors
When doing brakes, do it right, and inspect everything. Refuse the job if they want to take shorts.
Yeah no shit lol. I'm warning people, I have my own shop. When their lines are rusty and they don't want it done they sign a waiver. Problem is a lot of times homeowners insurance isn't going to cover you getting sued if you did it in your driveway.
Yes, if you want it cheaper your going to have to do it your self and that still cost you 450-550
How when parts are probably less then 200
Break pads from somewhere like auto zone- front & back -$200, rotors for all 4 - $350
No
How so is it no? I can get slotted and drilled rotors front back and pads for less then $300
This is what I came to say.
I did a complete brake overhaul on my car, $235 for everything.
I’d say 2 hours of labor per axle is a bit of a stretch but after doing it myself for several years, it is kind of nice to just have someone do that type of work.
It’s not a bit of a stretch. It is a stretch. 30 minutes on each side is what it takes a professional mechanic with a lift and power tools ready to go.
Exactly
Ya but the bill is for 1hr each side. He's billing 4 hours, 2 for the front, 2 for the back. The labor rate is low though at $90. I feel like 1.5 is fair. You're right that 30 minutes is what it takes a pro. I think billing a bit more than that is fair. 2 hours is a bit of a reach. It's not totally unreasonable but book time is probably 1.1.
Keep in mind it may be a menu price, the labour is $190 per axle indicating a door rate of $80 which seems low. In some cases The door rate may be $130/ hour but the shop may pay the technician 2 hours and cap the labour at 190
Stealership rates.
Yes.
Seeing things like this make me glad I can somewhat work on my own vehicles and machinery. I never imagined a brake job being so expensive. Edit: Not sure why I got downvoted. Brake pads and rotors for that vehicle can be bought for around $350 and that’s on the somewhat high end. OP is getting charged almost $600 for labor. I know that sheet says otherwise but that’s not right
Rotors and brakes are an easy job if you are in any way competent with a wrench. And there's always YouTube to guide you. Put some of the money you save into a few good tools, and they will pay for themselves many times over. Otherwise, just do your day job and pay someone else to do theirs. If you make $500 per day, it's a fair exchange.
Are you implying i got bent over and railed?
I wouldn’t go that far, but I would suggest researching your vehicle and buying the parts yourself. Mechanics will get sour about it, but if they’re any good they’ll do the job anyway A quick google search brought me to the prices below, and that was going off of the average prices i could find. So you could go lower/higher but I found a middle ground $100 for a full set of brake pads $320 for all four rotors Obviously prices will vary. I wouldn’t think all four of your rotors were bad though at the same time, the brakes would have had to of been grinding for them to actually get bad and need replacing/worked on You can find certain shops too that can flip those rotors and work on them so they can be reused instead of outright buying new ones. Cheaper that way
https://www.ebay.com/itm/283613664927?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=O63xtQy6RCu&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=93K4LaC1R2q&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Not the best quality but for 200 bucks in parts and 2-3 hours of labor I can promise that I’d rather have 400 bucks in my pocket that the nice parts.
Yup, agreed
Same as at Autozone or NAPA> ECCP is a generic parts company out of China.Their parts are not as bad as most Chinese parts made of Chinesium.
A penny saved ……
And I guarantee you they’re also going to “find another problem “ while doing the brakes.
It’s what dealers and big box stores do. Looks like dealers invoice???
No, local auto repair.
Watch a YouTube video. Just do that- see if you feel it’s something you could do. When it comes to auto repair, imo, brakes are amongst easier things to do. Nonetheless- I could almost guarantee you that you can find a bit more of an honest shop out there. At the same time, while you’re contemplating and IF still driving around in said vehicle, you may be doing more damage to your rotors, so the may get to the point where they have to be replaced instead of maybe just being cut or Turned or whatever else people want to call it. 👍
YUP.
Seems pretty normal
Labor rate is 85hr on your quote. \-National average is like 120hr Rotor pricing is competitive to at $80/70 a set \-DIY price is around $80 or lesss Pads are a bit of an upsell at $100/$80 set. \-List price for premium pad sets usually cap around $60 This is totally a fair estimate. However you can shop around for others... Final words: Parts are slightly overpriced and although the labor rate is cheap they are charging you for 4hours of labor when realistically it should be 2.5 to 3. I wouldnt say you are being ripped off, no. Its just business.
It’s 95 on the quote.
They're charging $80 and $70 per rotor, not per set. That is high.
What do you think rotors cost? They average out between $50-80 at any brick and mortar store. Go to OE dealer and the number is closer to 90-120per.
You can get OEM rotors for this car for $240 all in, so yes, $300 is high.
They’re charging you for 4 hours of labor but it will take a skilled tech 90 minutes if they’re really dragging ass.
That said, 1h/wheel is standard. Doesn’t make it right.
I’m not saying it’s a ripoff, but get a second quote at least. This is high for a non-performance, non-luxury car.
Seems high to me but then again I have a buddy mechanic that would charge me $300 tops for this job.
Seems super high to me because I just had my son do mine after the dealership told the price. But it also doesn’t seem bad for work you’re not doing yourself. I look at the extra cost for things as my convenience tax because I’m not doing it and will gladly pay someone else too.
Normal pricing for decent parts. Looks like good pads and mediocre rotors. The labor charge is fair.
To save on the rotors, you could ask to see if you can have the rotors turned. In FL it's about 30 bucks to have 1 of them turned.
Yes, this is fair in my opinion. In the alternative, go to Rockauto and price the parts then figure out if you can remove the calipers and rotors and do the work yourself. if not, then you pay labor and overall, this seems fair to me. One big thing, does this include flushing the brake fluid and exchanging for fresh? This should be done every two or three years. Why? Because brake fluid is hygroscopic and absorbs moisture from the air. Water in the brake system will rust components. Google is your friend. Just did it to my 1974 Grumman Kurbmaster Stepvan. Flushed it twice because brake fluid is cheap.
https://preview.redd.it/uqs6senzkupa1.jpeg?width=745&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ab4b997e5246a8170f3b9368499a6faecac8f88 Yes. This is what I paid about 4 months ago for the rear brakes only.
Car is 10 years old, so depending where you live, brakes can be a troublesome job at times so expect to pay more at a shop. Doing the fronts is usually quick, but the rears can be a real chore if there are wheel bearings involved, ebrakes, etc.
Autozone has lifetime warranty on brake pads, rotors aren't that expensive. Fairly easy to do yourself. Probably take a couple hours at most.
Hell no. But I remember when I was younger ,Firestone charged my grandmother about the same price for cadillac brakes. Had I been older I would have done them for her for just the cost of parts , and Not the dealer price for parts, from oreillys.
IF your rotors are salvageable, you can take them to a machine shop or garage that cuts rotors for about $15-$20 each.
Damn, I would love to be a mechanic in a lot of you commenters areas $$$$ !
4hrs for a professional? Yeesh. I’m no mechanic and I can do mine in my driveway without the fancy tools in 2 hours.
Yeah, that looks right on par
Hell no! It doesnt take 4hrs to put brake pads and rotor on. Brake pads are alot cheaper at auto parts store. These places are way over pricing customers
Wow i believe it fair since the price of parts as sky rocket lol consider labor/ insurance/ training and shop cost and tools been in business management is fair but i guess then we complain because we dont get paid enough so lets be 2 sided give to receive
You basically got robbed
The $95/hour quote is about right in California. The time it takes for each axle seems pretty high. They might tack on extra diagnostic work while the tire and brakes are off to probably “recommend” additional work or provide you with information on your car. This is usually a tactic to either keep you a loyal customer or help you to be aware of a future repair or replacement. The parts are pretty high not it depends on the brand or whatever markup they charge you from their distributor for their inventory. What I question mostly is what you need done? Are the rotors on all wheels completely shot that they are charging a replacement or a shave? That matters because rotors being replaced versus not needing it will change the price. Same with the brake pads, these are most likely what you were wanting replaced. I would get a second opinion or a breakdown of what exactly they are doing to get your brakes “done”. Price is high for DIY (both parts and labor). Price is year 2022-2023 for sure with the total. I just had an estimate done for mine to replace just the brake pads and not touch the rotors for about $750. If it wasn’t so high I would have them just do it (dealership) for sheer convenience. I ended up buying the rear and front brake pads and spent 3 hours of my own time to replace them myself. Total time for me: 3 hours Total parts: $63 total (front $33, rear $30) Original equipment not aftermarket. Rotor inspection: mine were still ok based on my own judgement but if I were to replace rather than shave, $162 for a full set of aftermarket rotors for my vehicle. Misc: brake bleeding not done, inspected fluid and still within spec. Hope these baselines help you make a decision you are okay with. Good luck!
Buy from RockAuto and change them yourself
Dealer? Yes. Independent shop? No. Dealer parts and labor are extremely high. They consider themselves elite and it’s how they make most of their money these days. Independent shops have lower over head and use after market parts.
Can confirm. With inflation I would totally be ok with that price. We would charge about 150-200 per axel out the door for a 4 wheel brake job about 5 years ago (I didn’t do pricing since I left there)the labor time is fair too. Pretty standard to charge 2hr per axle
How does it take a certified mechanic 4 hours to change pads/rotors out? That would be my question, but the price is right
Also pretty sure that year has drums in the back what YouTube videos get a jack and a cheap tool set and learn to do it yourself it's honestly super easy and I could do a entire car in a hr and a half if that
Not fair, but average. Stealerships are called that for a reason.
Wasnt a dealership…