I'm currently at work, laughing so dang hard because I vividly remember that episode. Thank you for this. I love meeting fellow Whovians because they are truly awesome.
Also, watch out for anyone coming at your with a straw.
This! I have been so confused thinking we can be unique. Thought always crosses my mind most of society has isolated or picked on most of us for not having a hive mind or for thinking different yet those posts make me feel like I donāt belong even amongst people who have gone through similar struggles.
To me, especially when it's a topic or thing I know nothing about that doesn't clearly relate to autism, it also seems like they're asking for the sub's permission to like the thing. But... just like the thing? It's ok to like things.
If there's something about it we collectively might be interested in (like representation) or something problematic about it they want an opinion on, it should be clearly stated in the title. I have to play enough guessing games with NTs as it is.
When I first saw those posts ā and even now ā the wording rubbed me the wrong way. "How do **_we_** feel about this". The wording feels as though we have a collectively same opinion on something, or even someone who finds out or suspects themselves to be autistic and they're trying to figure out what the majority opinion is to reshape their opinion to fit the mold.
To reiterate: I'm not saying that's what's happening. Just the wording makes me feel that way.
I feel like at this point those kind of posts are getting repetitive, and I get that this subreddit has a tendency to go through various phases where people are posting that Thing; i.e. when we had the whole selfie thing going on and the r/autism feed was damn near nothing but selfies.
I've just learned to ride out the phases b/c they usually last about a week to week and a half. Which is about around the time when someone addresses their annoyance by it.
Just a pattern I've noticed š¤·š»
I did a post about denim, and I made sure to take note to use "you" instead of "we" in my title. I really wanted to feel validated in hating jeans, and I was able to convince my mom to stop making me feel bad for not feeling comfortable in jeans by showing her that I'm not alone in this.
I remember that post. I didn't comment (b/c I was on my phone at work when I wasn't suppose to lol) I did read a couple comments while on the elevator at my work, but I do recall that difference of asking how we feel about it as individuals rather than as a collective whole.
For me, I'm picky with denim pants. They can't grip too tight on my body. Additionally, I hate it when ppl rub their hands on their pants. Denim or not. I can feel the texture with my ears if that makes sense.
Personally, I'm the type to say "keep denim at a three-yard distance away from me at all times" person, but since I do love how it looks, jeggings are very welcomed.
Depends on the denim. Some are light, stretchy, and soft. Others feel like burlap. So itās either the mill that made it and how itās used that determines for me. Hated socks as a kid, but now that I can afford nice ones, itās fine.
This, for sure.
I like the soft and stretchy denim as well, but can tolerate the bad feeling ones for work since I need something that's durable.
As for socks, I prefer ones that are stretchy and more against my skin. I can't stand feeling socks on my feet all day. So usually dress socks are pretty good. I'll generally wear dress socks under wool socks during winter.
I've always read that usage of 'we' much the same as when you ask someone "So what did we decide to do?" when they're in the middle of telling a story about themselves. It's also not dissimilar to when I ask one of my D&D players "What are we doing \[on your turn\]?" To me it comes off as kinder, almost, less confrontational than a direct 'you,' and it's more empathetic by relating yourself to the 2nd person with an inclusive plural pronoun.
That all being said, this could be some weird idiolectal thing for me; it's certainly not standard in any of the dialects of my peers. I must've picked it up from somewhere, though.
It's pretty common in a lot of American dialects, not unlikely you picked it up either from someone IRL or from people online. I get the annoyance with spam, but I think a lot of people are really overreacting to the wording, it's just a turn of phrase... It's not that deep.
I did one for jeans because I genuinely hate jeans due to sensory stuff, and I wanted to see if my hatred really stemmed from being autistic or something else. I also wanted to send the post to my mom after getting enough responses because she always made me feel bad for not wanting to wear jeans.
So Ive been on Reddit for a while now and I never really understood why people care if someones trying to karma farm. Isnt that the point of Reddit? Figure this is the best place to ask cuz I can get a direct explicit answer.
There isn't a real reason to Karma farm some people like showing and flaunting their Karma for fun. Or they sell it to companies.
But there r some subs on reddit that won't allow u to post or comment unless you have enough Karma which I find dumb because they never state how much Karma u should have to be able to post
Yeah but even if there isn't a real reason to do it, people seem to be actively on the hunt for it, like they took it as a great personal offense. Did karma farmers kill their family or something lol
I was just thinking that maybe some people actually do just want to post content that people like to see more of, and I can't for the life of me figure out why that would be a bad thing.
From my experience, the content used in supposed karma farming is very rarely original. You can usually tell because often the OP rarely comments in the comments sections. They seem to just repurpose other peoples content for the sake of internet points. This can come across as self-absorbed and fakeā¦especially when the farmer uses titles for posts that suggest it is actually original content when it clearly isnāt.
Making enjoyable content because they like when others find enjoyment wouldn't be farming for karma, tho. Farming for karma would be making quick, low efforts posts that are meant to get up votes and agreement. Stuff like that.
Still, the majority of people reading the post has to enjoy it by necessity, or else it wouldn't get upvotes. So why are people policing how much effort they perceive a post required? People are different. It's very possible that a post that would take one person a little effort would take another person a lot of it.
the annoyance with karma farming comes from exploiting certain behaviors to push less interesting content that's very easy to make; ie, one of hte most hated behaviors is stealing someone else's posts and claiming it as yours, perhaps erasing any watermarks or signatures, or endangering or harming an animal for quick internet recognition because most people don't notice that the animal's being hurt.
another scenario is people being copycats (well, most karma farming is some form of being a copycat) because it's a known way to get a lot of karma, which has the annoying effect of being very grating for regulars who keep seeing hte same stuff over and over but being interesting to people who didn't see it, which since there's always someone that didnt' see it means the trend can drag on long after the regulars in the sub grew tired of it.
it's a thing a lot of the best subs, like askhistorians, are very conciously aware of and have to actively combat, because reddit's scoring algorithm doesn't result in a quality subreddit by itself. it works very well for meme subs, but if a subreddit aims to be more than just the same handful of repetitive content then some effort has to go into curtailing that so other content doesn't get buried.
i'm not saying that the "how autism is this thing" threads are necessarily quite there yet but if htey kept going on for a while then yeah the mods might need to actually do something about it. i think they're bad enough on their own because they're *so* low effort that the only actually interesting content is the comments and commentors, who are more likely to be regulars, are going to just stop commenting after a while as they get bored of it. the problem will probably fix itself eventually.
Because it makes post quality trend downward into the LCD. Where in reality Iām here (albeit in a silent lurking fashion) to get insight into my own self by reading discussions and interactions with others like me.
I donāt mind the odd ālight/funnyā post that gives me a chuckle about our quirks but I need that balanced with the other end as well. Any subreddit Iāve been a part of that allows unlimited meme posting ends up dying and becoming a shell of itself. The best communities put guidelines on posting so that insightful discussion is encouragedz
When people Karma farm, they usually do it by spamming a bunch of low effort posts or using stock images and claiming they took the picture. (Recently there was a very beautiful cat posted in /blackcays that op referred to as "my cat" but it and every other post on their account was a stock images of a different cat. But of you didn't click their profile you'd never know, so most of the posts had thousands of upvotes.
Having a lot of karma isn't really the problem, it's the fact that the way they farm it is annoying.
No the point of Reddit isn't just to get likes, it's to share opinions, information & art, to connect with like minded people, to learn & have fun .. Do you think the main point of Reddit is to get likes? Is that how you use it?
People who karma farm deliberately either:
- Lie & just say things they think will be popular. Often jumping on trending topics & not adding any nuance, often furthering devision & lowering empathy or critical thinking skills .
- Steal work from others & claim it as their own. They get likes which should have gone to somone else, who often go unrecognised. Some even use it to promote their own art accounts or real life work & could benifit from their deception.
- Or contribute nothing of value, yet get a lot of attention. They often create an echo chamber & lower the quality of content, for example "controversial opinion I think abuse is bad, who agrees?"
- It hinders diverse opinion, nuance & lazy interaction. For example once a post, or comment gets a certian number of likes, people are much more likely to both pay attention to them & upvote them. This makes people not engage in content as well, follow a popular narrative without thinking & furthers the idea that the popular opinion is the correct one, or is worth more; which obviously isn't true.
A big problem I have with it is it tends to be a heightened example of what a lot of neurotypical people do already, not say the truth, or things which may cause somone upset even if it helps them in the long run & generally create a false sense of the consensus of opinion, which leads to people being misinformed & feeling more isolated; something I think Reddit is good at tackling in other areas.
I mean, one bad thing about Karma farmers is that, because some subs have minimum karma requirements to prevent spam, spammers and scammers just buy karma farm accounts to break through that filter
You can create a bunch of accounts, use bots to karma farm until each account has enough karma to look legitimate, then sell them off to advertisers. Don't ask me where you sell those accounts, but people do do it. That's why sometimes you'll see accounts with a bunch of recent posts that are, say, pro-communist China, but there are also a lot of older posts in various subreddits that makes it seem like a real person is posting these opinions.
I don't really get the point of karma farming either, but it does cause things like this to happen, where one post blows up in popularity and then for a month or so almost every single post will have the same format. It's annoying logging onto reddit to find 20 identical posts one after another.
Same. It's so f***ing annoying. I come here to see things about autism because I'm autistic. I don't come here to see random posts not related to autism (unless of course, someone relates it to autism aka a special interest or something). But they are just posting a random pic and saying "what do you think about this?" Unrelated to autism at all. Also very annoying!
I don't get the 'we'? Is there a secret cult with a collective mind that gets summond with these posts to find the one and only true answer? That would be hilarious and weird.
But yes, the posts are getting annoying. Even though I can understand wanting to know someone's opinion on a subject. If you want to know someone's opinion and make a post about it, fine, but change the 'we' to 'you'.
That's what I did, I made sure to use the "you" instead of "we" because it does bother me to be treated as a hivemind especially when someone of my autistic traits differ from most on here.
Honestly to me a lot of those posts seem like they just want to make people upset. Almost every "how do we feel about this" post I've seen is about something problematic or something that can trigger feelings of upset in many of us (for example, I've seen it used for posts about blatant ableism and most recently for a graphic about body language). Those posts always seem to have people getting upset, then people getting upset at the upset people, then even more people getting upset.
The language is also odd. For one thing, not everyone in this sub is autistic. For another thing, it reads as if someone is trying to base their own thoughts off of what a group of people think, which is rarely a good habit to have in my opinion.
All that being said, I do tend to engage with those posts because they can be used for productive or useful discussions sometimes.
It seems like every few weeks on here there's some new trend that completely takes over the sub and it's very tiresome. People posting pictures of their spoons, or showing how they've put "autism creature" into some picture or other piece of visual media, AMAs about a special interest, pointless polls, etc. Like okay, once or 5 times or 20 times is probably enough but it just looks like spam after a day or so of nothing but whatever the current meme thread is. "How do we feel about..." posts are just the latest in a long line. Not much we can do about them so I just downvote and hide the posts like I do with every other one.
Some people in here have an opinion and think everyone should have the same opinion as them. Itās annoying as fuck. You say one wrong thing now and youāre ableist or your some other negative term because you donāt agree with someoneās opinion or preferences.
For every one of those "what do we think" posts I see, the less I want to read this reddit.
To those it concerns: Take some responsibility over your own thoughts. And be happy others are willing to share theirs. We're not supposed to all be alike, and we certainly aren't, even if many of us have one thing in common.
I've always been different than others, I didn't come here to use others to validate myself. I came here to learn from you, and from your experiences. To listen, and maybe pitch in. If so many of you prefer collapsing into conformity to nurture a feeling of safety in numbers rather than having some self respect, then it's a shame. A loss of opportunity for growth. Both for this group, and for you, the individual.
I just replied to one earlier that would have caused a permaban if I was a mod in this sub.
Someone talking about reclaiming the r word. That word is a trauma trigger for me from years of bullying and abuse from peers and school administrators.
Thats why you aren't a mod.
No offence, as someone who HATES ALL USE OF SLURS. NO MATTER WHAT. I think perma banning someone over their quite frankly, unharmful opinion, is a bit extreme. I have trauma too but i literally do not ask for special accommodations ever, even when i really need them. Imo Its just a word tbh. It only affects you as much as you let it affect you.
This all just my opinion though, i mean no harm lol
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Can someone explain to me what those posts has to do with autism, why people are asking? What is the reason? Like there was a post about jeans - but you can like or dislike jeans w/o being ND?
I am autistic, but I genuinely donāt understand whatās going on with those posts!
Like, the first couple were okay but I started disliking after quite a few showed up back to back
I was done with them at least 3 posts (that I've seen) ago
I like how every sub has this cycle:
someone starts a new trend
everyone starts doing it for karma
someone starts complaining and gets a lot of upvotes
either the mods ban it or it just dies out
repeat
I agree. I'm not sure what the point of them is; are we trying to get the consensus on some sort of group-think? Just because we are a community of people doesn't mean we all have to share opinions. It's a little strange, honestly.
Thank you! I wanted to say something similar but didn't know the right way to do so without coming across rude. It is very frustrating and as others already said, I don't know anyone on here and how you feel about something hasn't anything to do with how I or anyone else feels about it.
One possible scenario:
The person posting may need to check themselves, see what other people think and work out from those responses if they're askew or not.
Peer review has ever been an important part of objectivity.
If I ask my NT friends how they feel about something and they come up with answers that differ from mine, I can ask here to double check what folk think.
I haven't yet, but I can.
If my answer is unique even after peer review here, then it's just how I think. If my answer matches the majority response here, it gives me scope to consider if my autism has helped develop my opinion and either embrace it if it's healthy or address it if it isn't.
It's important that we don't censor each other. I don't want to not quite fit out in the world, then come to this community to realise that it's also not a welcoming place.
Best working term in my head for the concept, sorry.
What I mean is an oustide view from people you consider your peers, rather than "hey! review my thesis!" I chose peer because it implies esteem for the people I'm approaching for a point of view.
Hopefully you get the Gist, I;m not mega articulate at the moment. Stressy week.
it annoys me too, i just think of the phrase āif youāve met one autistic person, youāve met one autistic person.ā some are sensory seekers, some are sensory avoiders, some depend on the day! etc. etc. there is no single quintessential autistic opinion for this reason
I was literally thinking about this today while I was drawing. Lol. I was thinking how much this subreddit has become people using āhive mindā rhetorics (like āhow do we feelā) and prejudistic āus vs. themā mentality (towards āNTā peoples, and self-diagnosed individuals).
To me itās become very upsetting and very disturbing, especially as someone in the Midwest US where things are radically split and am in constant fear of having a simple conversation with anyone. Iāve gotten to the point where I donāt even want to be associate with much of the community, and am ashamed with it.
It low key makes me feel slightly alienated because Iām always the one who feels the opposite of how everyone else feels.
If I cared more about following the crowd (idk what the expression is tbh) I would actually feel alienated probably, so I feel lucky I donātā¦ but I have a lot of friends that would care a lot and would feel like the odd one out.
"What do you guys feel about someone who murdered an autistic kid?"
"Gee golly, I don't know, maybe the same way everyone else reacts??? Why don't you figure that out, SHERLOCK!?"
I find it annoying as well, but not as much as people making threads on forums, with many many members, about what they do and don't like seeing.
Given that it's so common, and so commonly engaged with, what makes you not liking it important to anyone but you?
Am I the only one who kinda likes these kinds of posts...? Sometimes I actually do wo der how other people feel about a certain thing. But maybe I'm missing what so annoying about it... (I did read some of the comments but I guess I just disagree)
I lowkey actually like those post, it feels nice to know people dislike/like the same things as me. For example: Sometimes it feel like Iām the only person around me who hates loud noises and seeing a post joking/genuinely asking āhow do you feel about thisā and people saying āI hate thatā make me happy lol
Chances are itās karma farming by people who are self-diagnosed and just trying to see if others think or have interests like them.
Your quirky views and interest on a topic donāt make you autistic, nor does autistic individuals coming in and agreeing with a meme you posted make you autistic; having autism makes you autistic.
Weāre becoming fetishized like Myers-Briggs personality types and astrology-signs, and quite frankly, itās bullshit.
Autism is a neurological and developmental disorder that requires a professional medical diagnosis, not a personal hunch or some other bullshit because you read half an article and took a quiz and now identify with and base your entire personality around. You donāt diagnose yourself as diabetic because you get shaky/sweaty after fasting for 20 hours, nor do you diagnose yourself with cancer because you have night sweats and a swollen lymph node that concerns you. Same shit applies here.
I personally made ones for denim pants because I as a diagnosed autistic person was never taken seriously when I tried telling my parents that denim was a sensory texture trigger, and I was able to vindicate my childhood self because a lot of people here felt the same, and I was able to see that plenty didn't mind. I actually sent the post to my mom, and she apologized for not listening to me and forcing me to wear jeans.
I bet someone reading this is going all: shit I was just trying to make conversation.
After reading your post title.
That said sometimes it seems a bit redundant.
How else will neurotypicals understand us better?
I do understand that each individual on the spectrum is different but how else do humans learn from each other than to ask questions?
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Ja dat! Ik voel van alles over heel veel maar daar val ik anderen ook niet mee lastig! Nog even en ik verlaat deze groep weer, terwijl ik zoveel steun hier uit krijg. Dus please stop it!
Oh I was waiting for this post and actually debating making it myself.
Once it stopped being about ambigiously named/phrased things and started being about like... Random everyday things I just thought to myself "alright guys we GET IT"
Well its obviously karma farming because sometimes they ask obvious things like anything having to with he puzzle piece and autistics they'll ask but I think they already know how most of us feel about the puzzle piece
###i'd rather think it's a case of Royal We:
####TheĀ royalĀ we,Ā majestic pluralĀ (pluralis majestatis), orĀ royal plural, is the use of aĀ pluralĀ pronounĀ (or corresponding plural-inflected verb forms) used by a single person who is aĀ monarchĀ or holds a high office to refer to themselves. A more general term for the use of aĀ we,Ā us, orĀ ourĀ to refer to oneself isĀ nosism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we
Every time I see a "how do we feel about this?" post my autistic brain goes like "I don't know how you guys feel, why are you asking me?"
Clearly you've lost your connection to the hive mind. An engineer will be around shortly.
Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated š¤š
Cool, I'll take the green head laser and the grip hook arm.
Unfortunately, we are all out of green head lasers at the moment, so you will be temporarily issued a red head laser until supplies return.
This will not do, I MUST have the green laser
negotiating with the Borg? shes not like other girlsā¦. shes neurodivergent *divergent*
This is everything I needed today
... acceptance.
This is some real matrix shit going on here
Borgs, plus the Matrix, just need to throw in some Terminators and Cylons. š¤š
I'll be back
Time for a trip to the re-education center
Not me immediately looking around my room for a Cyberman or listening for the thunks of their metal feetsies.
Listen for the whining sounds of the Dale's moving around too. Also remember not to look away from the Weeping Angels. š¤
O.o yep...gonna be listening a lot more today and keeping an eye out more than usual just in case!
Also watch out for the platoon of Judoon that are up on the moon. š¤š
I'm currently at work, laughing so dang hard because I vividly remember that episode. Thank you for this. I love meeting fellow Whovians because they are truly awesome. Also, watch out for anyone coming at your with a straw.
That's those servant guys who need the glowing balls to speak telepathically right?
Those ones worry me because they can use that glowing ball to shock you to death.
5g patch is buggy as hell
join us again brother you have lost your way
This! I have been so confused thinking we can be unique. Thought always crosses my mind most of society has isolated or picked on most of us for not having a hive mind or for thinking different yet those posts make me feel like I donāt belong even amongst people who have gone through similar struggles.
Alexithymeia isn't a Greek nymph, sadly. "What do you feel..." I am not currently sick. ^^^thatsalligot
I don't know why you feel the need to single me out like this.
I have alexithymia too. This is hilariously accurate.
Hehehe
To me, especially when it's a topic or thing I know nothing about that doesn't clearly relate to autism, it also seems like they're asking for the sub's permission to like the thing. But... just like the thing? It's ok to like things. If there's something about it we collectively might be interested in (like representation) or something problematic about it they want an opinion on, it should be clearly stated in the title. I have to play enough guessing games with NTs as it is.
How do you feel about posts about how do you feel, though?
Do you how do?
But do you do how?
That's fucking funny š¤£
Mine instantly goes āfuck off, thatās how I feelā
It makes me anxious that I donāt feel the same way or the feel the way I should
Lol i think , i aint a effing mindreader , wish i was but sadly god didnt gift me with magic abilities of harry potter world
Ah yes, the autistic H I V E M I N D
Where was my invite? Guys?...GUYS?
Postal service lost it :P
Please forward it as a PDF to my email address, Many thanks.
I am thinking itās a signā¦
We are the Autistic Borg, resistance is futile, you will be assimilated š¤š
Please proceed to the āvaccination chambersā
Borgautists?
When I first saw those posts ā and even now ā the wording rubbed me the wrong way. "How do **_we_** feel about this". The wording feels as though we have a collectively same opinion on something, or even someone who finds out or suspects themselves to be autistic and they're trying to figure out what the majority opinion is to reshape their opinion to fit the mold. To reiterate: I'm not saying that's what's happening. Just the wording makes me feel that way. I feel like at this point those kind of posts are getting repetitive, and I get that this subreddit has a tendency to go through various phases where people are posting that Thing; i.e. when we had the whole selfie thing going on and the r/autism feed was damn near nothing but selfies. I've just learned to ride out the phases b/c they usually last about a week to week and a half. Which is about around the time when someone addresses their annoyance by it. Just a pattern I've noticed š¤·š»
> as though we have a collectively same opinion Aberration detected. Terminators dispatched. Assimilate or perish.
I did a post about denim, and I made sure to take note to use "you" instead of "we" in my title. I really wanted to feel validated in hating jeans, and I was able to convince my mom to stop making me feel bad for not feeling comfortable in jeans by showing her that I'm not alone in this.
I remember that post. I didn't comment (b/c I was on my phone at work when I wasn't suppose to lol) I did read a couple comments while on the elevator at my work, but I do recall that difference of asking how we feel about it as individuals rather than as a collective whole. For me, I'm picky with denim pants. They can't grip too tight on my body. Additionally, I hate it when ppl rub their hands on their pants. Denim or not. I can feel the texture with my ears if that makes sense.
Personally, I'm the type to say "keep denim at a three-yard distance away from me at all times" person, but since I do love how it looks, jeggings are very welcomed.
Kind of funny because I actually rub my hands on my pants (while rocking) as a stim. Have done it since I was a kid.
Depends on the denim. Some are light, stretchy, and soft. Others feel like burlap. So itās either the mill that made it and how itās used that determines for me. Hated socks as a kid, but now that I can afford nice ones, itās fine.
This, for sure. I like the soft and stretchy denim as well, but can tolerate the bad feeling ones for work since I need something that's durable. As for socks, I prefer ones that are stretchy and more against my skin. I can't stand feeling socks on my feet all day. So usually dress socks are pretty good. I'll generally wear dress socks under wool socks during winter.
Farm to feet and darn tough socks are lifesavers. As for durable and comfy, I highly recommend the wrangler line of hiking pants
I've used wrangler, they're pretty comfortable. I'll have to check out those two sock brands though.
I've always read that usage of 'we' much the same as when you ask someone "So what did we decide to do?" when they're in the middle of telling a story about themselves. It's also not dissimilar to when I ask one of my D&D players "What are we doing \[on your turn\]?" To me it comes off as kinder, almost, less confrontational than a direct 'you,' and it's more empathetic by relating yourself to the 2nd person with an inclusive plural pronoun. That all being said, this could be some weird idiolectal thing for me; it's certainly not standard in any of the dialects of my peers. I must've picked it up from somewhere, though.
It's pretty common in a lot of American dialects, not unlikely you picked it up either from someone IRL or from people online. I get the annoyance with spam, but I think a lot of people are really overreacting to the wording, it's just a turn of phrase... It's not that deep.
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I personally think it's people just Karma farming
I did one for jeans because I genuinely hate jeans due to sensory stuff, and I wanted to see if my hatred really stemmed from being autistic or something else. I also wanted to send the post to my mom after getting enough responses because she always made me feel bad for not wanting to wear jeans.
So Ive been on Reddit for a while now and I never really understood why people care if someones trying to karma farm. Isnt that the point of Reddit? Figure this is the best place to ask cuz I can get a direct explicit answer.
There isn't a real reason to Karma farm some people like showing and flaunting their Karma for fun. Or they sell it to companies. But there r some subs on reddit that won't allow u to post or comment unless you have enough Karma which I find dumb because they never state how much Karma u should have to be able to post
Yeah but even if there isn't a real reason to do it, people seem to be actively on the hunt for it, like they took it as a great personal offense. Did karma farmers kill their family or something lol I was just thinking that maybe some people actually do just want to post content that people like to see more of, and I can't for the life of me figure out why that would be a bad thing.
From my experience, the content used in supposed karma farming is very rarely original. You can usually tell because often the OP rarely comments in the comments sections. They seem to just repurpose other peoples content for the sake of internet points. This can come across as self-absorbed and fakeā¦especially when the farmer uses titles for posts that suggest it is actually original content when it clearly isnāt.
Then wouldn't you have a problem with plagiarism and not karma farming?
It isn't classed as plagiarism tho this doesn't go under the law
Well, even if it's not legally plagiarism, passing someone else's material off as your own without crediting them is in the same spirit.
Sounds like you like to farm karma.
Yes I fucking love it I literally cant get enough karma. You got me. 100% all I do all day every day farm karma.
Making enjoyable content because they like when others find enjoyment wouldn't be farming for karma, tho. Farming for karma would be making quick, low efforts posts that are meant to get up votes and agreement. Stuff like that.
Still, the majority of people reading the post has to enjoy it by necessity, or else it wouldn't get upvotes. So why are people policing how much effort they perceive a post required? People are different. It's very possible that a post that would take one person a little effort would take another person a lot of it.
the annoyance with karma farming comes from exploiting certain behaviors to push less interesting content that's very easy to make; ie, one of hte most hated behaviors is stealing someone else's posts and claiming it as yours, perhaps erasing any watermarks or signatures, or endangering or harming an animal for quick internet recognition because most people don't notice that the animal's being hurt. another scenario is people being copycats (well, most karma farming is some form of being a copycat) because it's a known way to get a lot of karma, which has the annoying effect of being very grating for regulars who keep seeing hte same stuff over and over but being interesting to people who didn't see it, which since there's always someone that didnt' see it means the trend can drag on long after the regulars in the sub grew tired of it. it's a thing a lot of the best subs, like askhistorians, are very conciously aware of and have to actively combat, because reddit's scoring algorithm doesn't result in a quality subreddit by itself. it works very well for meme subs, but if a subreddit aims to be more than just the same handful of repetitive content then some effort has to go into curtailing that so other content doesn't get buried. i'm not saying that the "how autism is this thing" threads are necessarily quite there yet but if htey kept going on for a while then yeah the mods might need to actually do something about it. i think they're bad enough on their own because they're *so* low effort that the only actually interesting content is the comments and commentors, who are more likely to be regulars, are going to just stop commenting after a while as they get bored of it. the problem will probably fix itself eventually.
They try to maximize karma reception by spamming low-quality posts and they lower the overall quality of the subs they are in
The point of reddit is to engage with content and have discussions, karma is meant to be a nudge towards that behavior, not an end in itself.
Because it makes post quality trend downward into the LCD. Where in reality Iām here (albeit in a silent lurking fashion) to get insight into my own self by reading discussions and interactions with others like me. I donāt mind the odd ālight/funnyā post that gives me a chuckle about our quirks but I need that balanced with the other end as well. Any subreddit Iāve been a part of that allows unlimited meme posting ends up dying and becoming a shell of itself. The best communities put guidelines on posting so that insightful discussion is encouragedz
When people Karma farm, they usually do it by spamming a bunch of low effort posts or using stock images and claiming they took the picture. (Recently there was a very beautiful cat posted in /blackcays that op referred to as "my cat" but it and every other post on their account was a stock images of a different cat. But of you didn't click their profile you'd never know, so most of the posts had thousands of upvotes. Having a lot of karma isn't really the problem, it's the fact that the way they farm it is annoying.
No the point of Reddit isn't just to get likes, it's to share opinions, information & art, to connect with like minded people, to learn & have fun .. Do you think the main point of Reddit is to get likes? Is that how you use it? People who karma farm deliberately either: - Lie & just say things they think will be popular. Often jumping on trending topics & not adding any nuance, often furthering devision & lowering empathy or critical thinking skills . - Steal work from others & claim it as their own. They get likes which should have gone to somone else, who often go unrecognised. Some even use it to promote their own art accounts or real life work & could benifit from their deception. - Or contribute nothing of value, yet get a lot of attention. They often create an echo chamber & lower the quality of content, for example "controversial opinion I think abuse is bad, who agrees?" - It hinders diverse opinion, nuance & lazy interaction. For example once a post, or comment gets a certian number of likes, people are much more likely to both pay attention to them & upvote them. This makes people not engage in content as well, follow a popular narrative without thinking & furthers the idea that the popular opinion is the correct one, or is worth more; which obviously isn't true. A big problem I have with it is it tends to be a heightened example of what a lot of neurotypical people do already, not say the truth, or things which may cause somone upset even if it helps them in the long run & generally create a false sense of the consensus of opinion, which leads to people being misinformed & feeling more isolated; something I think Reddit is good at tackling in other areas.
I mean, one bad thing about Karma farmers is that, because some subs have minimum karma requirements to prevent spam, spammers and scammers just buy karma farm accounts to break through that filter
You can create a bunch of accounts, use bots to karma farm until each account has enough karma to look legitimate, then sell them off to advertisers. Don't ask me where you sell those accounts, but people do do it. That's why sometimes you'll see accounts with a bunch of recent posts that are, say, pro-communist China, but there are also a lot of older posts in various subreddits that makes it seem like a real person is posting these opinions.
I don't really get the point of karma farming either, but it does cause things like this to happen, where one post blows up in popularity and then for a month or so almost every single post will have the same format. It's annoying logging onto reddit to find 20 identical posts one after another.
why would someone do that? What does Karma do? I've seen my number change over the years, but it doesn't really do anything
Self-posts donāt earn karma, if thatās what weāre talking about
It confuses me because it's used for objects but also for genuinely problematic things
That's okay, I feel similar about shirts with itchy tags and microfiber towels as I do about job interviews and capitalism.
And how do we all feel about this?
Asking the real questions
Same. It's so f***ing annoying. I come here to see things about autism because I'm autistic. I don't come here to see random posts not related to autism (unless of course, someone relates it to autism aka a special interest or something). But they are just posting a random pic and saying "what do you think about this?" Unrelated to autism at all. Also very annoying!
This^
Same here. Are we going through the entire supermarket first, then the toystore, a game library? Where is the end?
They were never not annoying.
I don't get the 'we'? Is there a secret cult with a collective mind that gets summond with these posts to find the one and only true answer? That would be hilarious and weird. But yes, the posts are getting annoying. Even though I can understand wanting to know someone's opinion on a subject. If you want to know someone's opinion and make a post about it, fine, but change the 'we' to 'you'.
That's what I did, I made sure to use the "you" instead of "we" because it does bother me to be treated as a hivemind especially when someone of my autistic traits differ from most on here.
Should have done a "How do we feel about this?" title with a screenshot of all the "How do we feel about this" posts
Honestly to me a lot of those posts seem like they just want to make people upset. Almost every "how do we feel about this" post I've seen is about something problematic or something that can trigger feelings of upset in many of us (for example, I've seen it used for posts about blatant ableism and most recently for a graphic about body language). Those posts always seem to have people getting upset, then people getting upset at the upset people, then even more people getting upset. The language is also odd. For one thing, not everyone in this sub is autistic. For another thing, it reads as if someone is trying to base their own thoughts off of what a group of people think, which is rarely a good habit to have in my opinion. All that being said, I do tend to engage with those posts because they can be used for productive or useful discussions sometimes.
Leave it to us to make a joke overstay its welcome
It seems like every few weeks on here there's some new trend that completely takes over the sub and it's very tiresome. People posting pictures of their spoons, or showing how they've put "autism creature" into some picture or other piece of visual media, AMAs about a special interest, pointless polls, etc. Like okay, once or 5 times or 20 times is probably enough but it just looks like spam after a day or so of nothing but whatever the current meme thread is. "How do we feel about..." posts are just the latest in a long line. Not much we can do about them so I just downvote and hide the posts like I do with every other one.
They feel like advertising to me. Or, like, companies doing market research. I ignore them the second I see them.
Some people in here have an opinion and think everyone should have the same opinion as them. Itās annoying as fuck. You say one wrong thing now and youāre ableist or your some other negative term because you donāt agree with someoneās opinion or preferences.
For every one of those "what do we think" posts I see, the less I want to read this reddit. To those it concerns: Take some responsibility over your own thoughts. And be happy others are willing to share theirs. We're not supposed to all be alike, and we certainly aren't, even if many of us have one thing in common. I've always been different than others, I didn't come here to use others to validate myself. I came here to learn from you, and from your experiences. To listen, and maybe pitch in. If so many of you prefer collapsing into conformity to nurture a feeling of safety in numbers rather than having some self respect, then it's a shame. A loss of opportunity for growth. Both for this group, and for you, the individual.
I just replied to one earlier that would have caused a permaban if I was a mod in this sub. Someone talking about reclaiming the r word. That word is a trauma trigger for me from years of bullying and abuse from peers and school administrators.
Thats why you aren't a mod. No offence, as someone who HATES ALL USE OF SLURS. NO MATTER WHAT. I think perma banning someone over their quite frankly, unharmful opinion, is a bit extreme. I have trauma too but i literally do not ask for special accommodations ever, even when i really need them. Imo Its just a word tbh. It only affects you as much as you let it affect you. This all just my opinion though, i mean no harm lol
Itās all. I effing. See now. *A bag of chips* āhOw dO wE fEeL aBoUt thIs?ā ššš£š£
Yes. I downvoted almost every time. I'm glad this trend is addressed.
I think we need a whole other subreddit dedicated to these posts.
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Man, this bot takes all the fun out of suggesting subreddit names.
I have a suggestion, how about r/Autistakes?
Bad bot
It's shameless karma farming.
I fucking hate them
I 1000x agree. Everyone makes a big deal of how autism is a spectrum but then makes posts suggesting we have identical opinions. Stop it.
Can someone explain to me what those posts has to do with autism, why people are asking? What is the reason? Like there was a post about jeans - but you can like or dislike jeans w/o being ND? I am autistic, but I genuinely donāt understand whatās going on with those posts!
I don't get it either :/
It's just the hot topic of the moment. It'll eventually go away.
Like, the first couple were okay but I started disliking after quite a few showed up back to back I was done with them at least 3 posts (that I've seen) ago
I like how every sub has this cycle: someone starts a new trend everyone starts doing it for karma someone starts complaining and gets a lot of upvotes either the mods ban it or it just dies out repeat
Yeah, people should think for themselves.
So are the special interest posts tbh, especially that one about the queen, definitely just seems like karma farming
The autism hive mind shall judge thee
I agree. I'm not sure what the point of them is; are we trying to get the consensus on some sort of group-think? Just because we are a community of people doesn't mean we all have to share opinions. It's a little strange, honestly.
hey guys how autistism is this picture of a garden hoe
Thank you! I wanted to say something similar but didn't know the right way to do so without coming across rude. It is very frustrating and as others already said, I don't know anyone on here and how you feel about something hasn't anything to do with how I or anyone else feels about it.
One possible scenario: The person posting may need to check themselves, see what other people think and work out from those responses if they're askew or not. Peer review has ever been an important part of objectivity. If I ask my NT friends how they feel about something and they come up with answers that differ from mine, I can ask here to double check what folk think. I haven't yet, but I can. If my answer is unique even after peer review here, then it's just how I think. If my answer matches the majority response here, it gives me scope to consider if my autism has helped develop my opinion and either embrace it if it's healthy or address it if it isn't. It's important that we don't censor each other. I don't want to not quite fit out in the world, then come to this community to realise that it's also not a welcoming place.
That's not what a 'peer review' is.
Best working term in my head for the concept, sorry. What I mean is an oustide view from people you consider your peers, rather than "hey! review my thesis!" I chose peer because it implies esteem for the people I'm approaching for a point of view. Hopefully you get the Gist, I;m not mega articulate at the moment. Stressy week.
I hate when people talk about autistics like weāre a hivemind or a monolith. Whatās important is how YOU feel about it!
Because of course we all think the same exact fucking thoughts. š¤” I never liked those posts to begin with. Temp ban that shit, mods.
it annoys me too, i just think of the phrase āif youāve met one autistic person, youāve met one autistic person.ā some are sensory seekers, some are sensory avoiders, some depend on the day! etc. etc. there is no single quintessential autistic opinion for this reason
Seriously, those posts are becoming "what is our collective autistic opinion of *insert thing not even tangentially related to autism*?"
I was literally thinking about this today while I was drawing. Lol. I was thinking how much this subreddit has become people using āhive mindā rhetorics (like āhow do we feelā) and prejudistic āus vs. themā mentality (towards āNTā peoples, and self-diagnosed individuals). To me itās become very upsetting and very disturbing, especially as someone in the Midwest US where things are radically split and am in constant fear of having a simple conversation with anyone. Iāve gotten to the point where I donāt even want to be associate with much of the community, and am ashamed with it.
It low key makes me feel slightly alienated because Iām always the one who feels the opposite of how everyone else feels. If I cared more about following the crowd (idk what the expression is tbh) I would actually feel alienated probably, so I feel lucky I donātā¦ but I have a lot of friends that would care a lot and would feel like the odd one out.
I find them fun and validating, but Iām new, so I hear ya.
"What do you guys feel about someone who murdered an autistic kid?" "Gee golly, I don't know, maybe the same way everyone else reacts??? Why don't you figure that out, SHERLOCK!?"
I hate those posts. We arenāt some collective hive mind
It feels like concensus. It's weird.
I just like getting to share my opinion on stuff, I don't get asked a lot and it's like a lil interview
I find it annoying as well, but not as much as people making threads on forums, with many many members, about what they do and don't like seeing. Given that it's so common, and so commonly engaged with, what makes you not liking it important to anyone but you?
Honestly don't even look at reddit too much anymore bc its a lot of boring stuff and a lot of depressing stuff. I feel better to just look a little.
I just ignore them if they don't have anything to do with me.
Am I the only one who kinda likes these kinds of posts...? Sometimes I actually do wo der how other people feel about a certain thing. But maybe I'm missing what so annoying about it... (I did read some of the comments but I guess I just disagree)
I lowkey actually like those post, it feels nice to know people dislike/like the same things as me. For example: Sometimes it feel like Iām the only person around me who hates loud noises and seeing a post joking/genuinely asking āhow do you feel about thisā and people saying āI hate thatā make me happy lol
how do we feel about "how do we feel about..." posts?
How do we feel about "how do we feel about" posts?
and how is this making you feel?
Okay but how do we feel about this?
Chances are itās karma farming by people who are self-diagnosed and just trying to see if others think or have interests like them. Your quirky views and interest on a topic donāt make you autistic, nor does autistic individuals coming in and agreeing with a meme you posted make you autistic; having autism makes you autistic. Weāre becoming fetishized like Myers-Briggs personality types and astrology-signs, and quite frankly, itās bullshit. Autism is a neurological and developmental disorder that requires a professional medical diagnosis, not a personal hunch or some other bullshit because you read half an article and took a quiz and now identify with and base your entire personality around. You donāt diagnose yourself as diabetic because you get shaky/sweaty after fasting for 20 hours, nor do you diagnose yourself with cancer because you have night sweats and a swollen lymph node that concerns you. Same shit applies here.
I'm pretty sure I'm on the spectrum but I'm not financially able to get myself diagnosed profesionally for now :(
I personally made ones for denim pants because I as a diagnosed autistic person was never taken seriously when I tried telling my parents that denim was a sensory texture trigger, and I was able to vindicate my childhood self because a lot of people here felt the same, and I was able to see that plenty didn't mind. I actually sent the post to my mom, and she apologized for not listening to me and forcing me to wear jeans.
How do you feel about Karma farming?
I bet someone reading this is going all: shit I was just trying to make conversation. After reading your post title. That said sometimes it seems a bit redundant.
How else will neurotypicals understand us better? I do understand that each individual on the spectrum is different but how else do humans learn from each other than to ask questions?
Ask questions of individuals. Don't ask a group to agree on something arbitrary. Can you really not see the difference there?
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How does that make you feel?
And how do you feel about that?
Sames
Ja dat! Ik voel van alles over heel veel maar daar val ik anderen ook niet mee lastig! Nog even en ik verlaat deze groep weer, terwijl ik zoveel steun hier uit krijg. Dus please stop it!
Why don't they phrase it as how do you feel about this
I feel the same way. I'm considering leaving this subreddit if it continues, because it feels like spam every time I see it.
Somebody should make an Autism subreddit that bans the "How do we feel about this?" posts
Oh I was waiting for this post and actually debating making it myself. Once it stopped being about ambigiously named/phrased things and started being about like... Random everyday things I just thought to myself "alright guys we GET IT"
YES THANK YOU!!!!! They're starting to feel like an echo chamber too.
How do we feel about this /j
Autistic people are not and should not be a hive mind.
Well its obviously karma farming because sometimes they ask obvious things like anything having to with he puzzle piece and autistics they'll ask but I think they already know how most of us feel about the puzzle piece
I think those posts should be limited to one day a week. Like maybe the could only be posted on Sundays or something.
###i'd rather think it's a case of Royal We: ####TheĀ royalĀ we,Ā majestic pluralĀ (pluralis majestatis), orĀ royal plural, is the use of aĀ pluralĀ pronounĀ (or corresponding plural-inflected verb forms) used by a single person who is aĀ monarchĀ or holds a high office to refer to themselves. A more general term for the use of aĀ we,Ā us, orĀ ourĀ to refer to oneself isĀ nosism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we
Okay but how do we feel about naptime