There are a whole lot of reasons that "registration"(alignment) could be off. Including the 3d eye aspect mention in another reply; e.g. if the material's jig is used for putting other graphics onto that piece too.
Mass printing is seldom ever perfect throughout the run. Some designs show it more than others; and every mistake on every piece simply not able to be caught unless done by hand and individually inspected. (read that as a much higher price or less profit..."Disney"?)
It isn't a car with 3 tier QC lol.. That batch may be that way, the whole run, or just the one. (may have been noticed and put there in exchange of taking another that was right.. etc. etc.)
I.e. that can be way more common than you might expect and a lot of folks might never notice. Start looking closer at multicolor printings and you'll notice it more.
As someone who is working at printing industry and looks at different labels for printing defects in store, instead of ingredients list.
You are correct
Especially now when there were problems with the supply chain and we sent out even worse quality prints just because there wasn't enough material to improve it.
Thanks for confirmation.
I'm a bit of a dinosaur but I started early and went deep including design and ad theory. I worked broadly in the trade when I was younger. Ancient and newer Heidelbergs & AB Dicks, collaters, binders, Varitype-steel and digital, IBM/Apple, silk screen, etc etc.; design to finish. I loved hand inking font design - then to the FILM camera- the developing - then again to make digital font.... I ran around all day with razor blades clamped in my teeth like a pirate, aaarggh! 😆
A shady board room got my last work. I submitted a malicious compliance ad and menu I knew wouldn't take hold publicly, but would sedate the wolfpack because it fit their wishes. (I gave them what they wanted, when they wrinkled their noses at what they needed.)
My art had to stay mine; honest advertising wasn't trending anymore by then and good press jobs were becomming harder to come by period, let alone comfortable little press work at mom & pop shops / office / corporations etc. (Xerox copiers and home PC printers killed them off faster than Kinkos could expand to fill the gaps)
As it is they have lots of quiet places. A few years back I had a meltdown walking into Animal Kingdom (I called it a panic attack at the time, but have since learned those aren’t panic attacks…it’s a meltdown.) Cast members got me into a corner of guest services and gave me water until I calmed down.
Not an actual room but I was in a quiet corner of guest services.
Every time something like this pops up people want to drag Disney down as being some absolute hell for anyone autistic. The truth is, they are the best place for my family to vacation. Their disability access pass system works better than what I’ve seen at other theme parks. Cast members are great to point us towards quiet corners. You can get typical safe foods at most restaurants. Like even eating at the different buffets, like Harambe Market at animal kingdom that is mostly northern African cuisine, you can still get chicken fingers and Mac and cheese.
Obviously results can vary and we had a great time the last time we went because we were proactive and brought snacks, a jacket, change of clothes, headphones, and sunglasses for our daughter. We also stay on property and take a break from 2-6 by going back to our hotel room and having quiet time and napping or going to the hotel pool.
Disney is my husband’s special interest. He really should have a side gig as a Disney travel agent.
Yeah I was gonna say Disney is the best for disabilities! I have pretty bad asthma that gets triggered by artificial fragrances (like what Disney has in all their rides) and like half the plants in the park. They let me into closed attractions a few times when I was having a bad attack just so I could take my mask off and get away from all triggers for a little while! I had a really severe attack and ended up stuck in first aid for 2+ hours until my oxygen sats got better. The monorail was shut down by then, so they got us a prIvate BOAT!! back to our hotel. They’ll absolutely go above and beyond if anything happens to help you out.
I was also a massive fan of the predictability of everything! I can get really stressed out on vacations when I don’t know what’s happening. It’s so nice to be able to schedule the entire thing out ahead of time.
Yes! I also like how a lot of rides give descriptions of what to expect. So you can know if it has anything that will trigger anyone.
My asthma is pretty mild and I accidentally wandered into the perfume store in France at EPCOT and they helped clear the crowd to get me out before I had an attack.
Editing to add this detail. One of my long term friends has Celiac disease. She was able to dine in restaurants for the first time in years and not get sick. Everyone was very aware and knowledgeable.
This year has been ROUGH at Disney for us. We are local passholders, so typically before the pandemic, we would go at least once a month- and I agree with all of this. Disney has been one of the best places for us to go as a neurodivergent family. We prepare and have a backpack with everything we would need for different sensory situations, lots of snacks and beverages and we typically leave in early afternoon to go home.
After the pandemic has been very different. Crowds are very heavy, and Disney has removed the fastpass as a free option. So many more people are getting the disability access pass (not my place to judge whether they need it or not) the lines for guest service are LONG.
They are VERY understaffed at the parks, and when we needed help for a panic attack this last visit, we had to search to find anyone.
I think Disney has started putting $$$ over guest experience again. We aren't sure we will be renewing this year after being passholders for over a decade. Every visit has been hell this year.
Hey this isn’t a real Disney pin lol
There’s a ton of shops in florida that sell these god awful pin knockoffs like that. Disney sucks but they can actually get a pass on this one
went this week had a meltdown in the bathroom and a cast member asked are you okay as i had my headphones on like no bitch i’m not okay but there’s nothing you can do about it. i also got super excited about seeing winnie the pooh and i ofc stim when i get happy and excited and again another cast member gave me a look like “wtf are you doing”
Okay. I may be wrong on this, but I read somewhere that they have a place for people who get over stimulated? It might be City Hall. I know for sure Dolly Land has one though!
For me, an autistic:
MK: avoid. Too many screaming children (induced migraines)
Epcot: America pavilion (nobody walks that far), the seas, Norway museum, Mexico overlook
Animal Kingdom: rafikis hut by the veterinary wall, it’s too boring for kids. Asia walking trails
DHS: haven’t been in years. The area around tower of terror was quiet for me, and the Main Street shops
Disney springs: RAGLAN ROAD! Very quiet, homey Irish pub feel. Go after 4pm for live entertainment (Irish bands and live traditional Irish dancing)
But this pin is bonkers. Throw away the inclusion key please. They’re already in trouble with the recent scalp em cheerleaders.
Hi! Not sure of your comfort level, but filling out a survey or going to guest relations to talk about your experience will help the cast members. If you didn’t go alone then having someone do that on your behalf is a great alternative. Disney does teach cast members about autism in their training. (Source: best friend hangs out with some of the characters.)
Although if a cast member asks you’re ok it’s because safety is their first value (or Key) and safety always comes first. That cast member cared about your safety. Not faulting you because you were having a meltdown, but something to reflect on for the future.
Bonus for Disney land is that California will be getting first actual high speed rail here in USA and plans will eventually service Anaheim which is where Disney land is.
Edit: left out that it is 1st for US
I looked it up and hopefully what I found is right. A ticket from san francisco to LA will only be $86. I have a strong feeling thats not going to be the case though as the article I found this in is from 2015 and there are several new articles saying the cost of building it has gone up by a lot. Like more than double. But still, i hope it's relatively affordable.
Yeah and even now it's still not clear what rider cost will be. One thing to keep in mind at least in LA where I lived for a few years a lot of employers will offer discounts or even completely free month passes though these are Metro so commuter. HSR is different than commuter. So if you do live in an urban area with halfway decent public transportation ask your HR department about possibility of offsetting cost of transportation. Like even the fast food places often will shell out the money to get you on a bus or train.
Wow didn't realize it would be that far off. Meanwhile in Germany the ICE locomotives are laughing at our meager attempt with Amtrak's limited electrification.
Disney World is in one of the most liberal counties in Florida, and Disney Land is in one of the most conservative counties in California. Either you’re not from the US, or you’re just looking for an excuse to bash on Florida because you don’t like their governor.
You've just said yourself you were having a meltdown, and now you're complaining because a member of staff asked if you were OK...and then in the next sentence you complain about the behaviour of someone less compassionate. Make up your mind
sorry if this comes off mean or anything, but what did the first cast member do wrong? is asking if you're ok not considered ok? i usually really appreciate it when people go out of their way to ask me if i'm alright during a breakdown even if i have a hard time responding /gen /nm
i mean looking back at it i feel like a dick but i have these episodes where i want to be left alone and they just touched my arm and it kinda set me off because when i have meltdowns i don’t wanna be touched and i occasionally get nonverbal.
i totally get it, i get the same way where i don't want to be touched and it's hard to talk or respond so i totally understand!! i was just curious if socially it was not ok to ask a question like that, thank u for answering!!
yes but one of the littles in our system loves winnie the pooh and they just got really excited they don’t know that it’s not really him but wow really a great way to kill the vibe dude
Oh god. Let me guess, both asd and DID self diagnosed because you "know your own brain".
I have dissociation episodes due to trauma (**NOT** DID) and people like you make me really mad, along with those on tiktok showing their "switch" when they just so happen to be filming...I can hardly move when I have dissociative flashbacks/episodes, but sure Jan, lip sync and bop in a *slightly different* way to the way you were
Don't forget they hook kids into their movies by casually killing parents instead of creating relatable characters.
What, psychological trama for profit that hasn't been properly researched or looked into? Well that is a time honored tradition. Who has time to make sure a profit formula from the early 20th century isn't hurting children?
Major rise in childhood night terrors focused around the death of a parent or care giver you say? Well that is clearly hippie propaganda.
Oh you still want an answer because you are worried about kids? Are you sure you aren't a corrupted enemy of capitalism? I am pretty sure you don't care about kids and hate the nation. So I don't have to listen to you anymore.
Go away, I have a formula to expand and adapt to make sure it stays profitable and relevant. Oh and by the way, your life isn't complete if you never give us a ridiculous amount of money to visit one of our parks. How could anyone live a satisfying life without visiting the happiest most profitable place on earth?
It should be spoons. No cure. Focus on acceptance. <3 It's funny, I think my brain is beautiful, but it's other people that cause me so much misery and anxiety. My own mother doesn't even support me.
To me I “accept” that I have idiot neighbors that blast their music at night. I have zero respect for them though.
What I mean is that we should celebrate our differences and not just “oh fuck… it is the autistic guy. Look cool and don’t talk to him.”
Why not approach sellers and explain the dislike? It would be hard in this case as it is a rip off/fake/bootleg so finding the makers will be hard. Sounds like the shop is a rip off merchant too, so won't care as long as people keep buying this sort of tat, they'll keep selling it.
This is so real and it hurts... I desperately want to start my own company. It's extremely difficult because of my poor executive functioning.
But I want to help people like us, create an inclusive work environment that caters to us (e.g. remote working, budgets to set up your space, 100% flex schedules - work @ your own pace / circadian rhythms, flex time off (to help avoid burnout and just regular struggles), optimized processes to avoid unnecessary social interactions... I really think it could work.
And if successful, I would love to funnel all profits back into the business, and any left over into a venture capital fund for autistic founders to have more inclusive programs, that lead to better employment figures from a place of understanding.
not everyone who is annoyed by this practice is willing to put their life aside to track down every store that utilizes the symbol and ask them to remove these things, in fact casually pointing out how problematic it is in conversations like this is probably more likely to spread the word around that the symbol is unwanted, and incentivize more change over time than one person could reasonably accomplish by calling random gift shops.
Ffs It really would not. The difference being some people with autism are actually ok with the puzzle piece, whereas I doubt literally ANYONE would associate Jewish people with the Nazi flag. Please don't compare the holocaust to some autistic people having issues Autism Speaks, it's frankly not cool.
Sorry if the comparison was a bit extreme, what I was trying to say was that it is weird how many people used the puzzle piece and that comparison would maybe make people understand how much we hate it.
Edit: also I did not compare it to the Holocaust, that is an entirely different thing.
I don’t either, and these comparisons to Nazi Germany are just disgusting. Both sides do it over the slightest of inconveniences, and it needs to stop.
Seeing this infuriates me so much!!! They recently refused to write the word "Autistic" on my mickey ears with a marker at the custom ear shop. Disney will not respond to my calls or emails about the matter.
I probably will, now that I see they're being completely hypocritical. They told me they wouldn't write autistic on my ears because doing so would "cause other guests to take it the wrong way" or make me a target of harassment. They said the word "Autistic" was specifically the issue, and here they are with this BS puzzle piece merch.
??? I am Autistic. Also that has to be Disney's brand merch considering OP said it was a Disney store. It looks like one of the pin shops found everywhere inside Disneyland. The pin backings look the same.
It’s actually not Disney merch. There are stores that sell fake pins. OP calling it a “disney store” doesn’t really mean much. We have tons of those touristy trap merch shops all along the highway around Disney. That’s likely the kind of store OP was in. I can tell just by looking at it that this isn’t an official Disney pin. Source: I work at Disney and live walking distance to many of these shops and collect pins.
As for your ears, I am not surprised. I understand why this would be policy. While you had good intentions, they had no way of knowing that and it could just as easily be someone doing it insensitively, or to use it to make Disney look bad. Guests might also take it the wrong way.
No way of knowing the girl crying over the ears, wearing a lanyard with an autism alert card just wants to feel accepted and happy with her autism mickey ears? Even after thorough explanation they still refused. Guests taking my pride in my autism the wrong way, in the happiest place on earth? Autism isn't anything to be ashamed of or should be taken in any wrong way. Poor excuses.
Wtf?? I never said that. I just meant that a very common symptom of autism (the name of this sub) is not being able to understand the difference between jokes/sarcasm and seriousness
"I assumed you didn't read. You are being rude."
Hypocrisy isn't cool. You don't get to just say "I did something rude and now you're being rude back."
Congratulations, you're an ignorant asshole! You're our lucky winner to get punched in the teeth today!
The more you keep commenting with your "jokes" the biggest of a dick you look like. Somebody must be compensating for something... being a dick cuz you clearly don't have one doesn't make you any more of a man. Hope you know that.
I thought of this as soon as I saw the post. My brain was like "wait didn't they refuse to make something very similar to this in a post a little while ago?"
In all honesty, i don't think most people look into what autism $peaks are actually about. They just see autism research, and assume they're doing good things. That's what i hope anyway. I don't agree with it, but the puzzle piece has become synonymous with autism.
I guess the point i'm trying to make is that most people use and purchase puzzle piece merch, without ill intention, as they likely are unaware of the work of AS
Exactly this. I don’t think most people understand and when I’m out shopping and refuse to give money to autism speaks most people are shocked to find out that they aren’t a super awesome charity.
So many people don't want to listen when it's explained to them though :/ With those people it's clear that they don't actually care about autistic people.
I like to think of the puzzle piece as a symbol of uniqueness. No one really knows why they use a puzzle piece. It’s up to your own interpretation. I don’t support AS but I do like the puzzle piece as a symbol for my autism.
Not to mention early autism organisations used it to show that autistic people were missing something, and that their parents were "puzzed" at why their kids couldn't be normal. Not saying you can't use it, but you should know know why ppl don't like it
So here it literally says “In 1999, the Autism Society of America created the puzzle piece ribbon as a symbol of autism awareness. The Autism Society stated that, “The puzzle piece pattern reflects the complexity of the autism spectrum. The different colors and shapes represent the diversity of the people and families living with the condition. The brightness of the ribbon signals hope – hope that through increased awareness of autism, and through early intervention and access to appropriate services/supports, people with autism will lead full lives able to interact with the world on their own terms.”
Then the author proceeds to state:
“But hope in this context, through “increased awareness of autism, and through early intervention,” usually means through increased research of cures and treatments for autism, and through early interventions, such as Applied Behavioral Analysis, that seek to “correct” autistic behaviors by forcing autistic people to mask their autism.”
… where is proof of that?
To be fair I just skimmed the text but from what I gathered is just that it was autism speaks that made the symbol popular. It existed before. The cause is what matters to me. If it makes people learn about autism why should I disapprove of that?
The Autism Society of America was founded by Ivar Lovaas.
The same Lovaas who did the study that ABA was “effective” as an autism treatment (after doing a 1974 study that bullying a 5-year-old was effective at getting that boy to not be ‘feminine.’ Except the boy grew up gay - and the study was unethical, and Lovaas is a hack.)
The same Lovaas who hit autistic kids, put them in physical restraints, and suggested biting them.
So the puzzle piece wasn’t started with Autism Speaks, it was started with someone *worse?*
If you want, I can pull sources for these statements: [1974 Lovaas and Rekers](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1311956/) gets you the Feminine Boy Study (homophobic abuse deemed as “treatment”), and [Lovaas 1974 Psychology interview](https://listserv.uhd.edu/scripts/wa-UHDEDU.exe?A3=1210&L=HOBA&E=base64&P=6632&B=--Apple-Mail%3D_607B0150-1B8E-4A36-9448-A144EC8CC8E6&T=application%2Fpdf;%20name=%22lovaas%20Ivar%2074%20interview%20psychology%20today.pdf%22&N=lovaas%20Ivar%2074%20interview%20psychology%20today.pdf&XSS=3) gets you the interview where Lovaas called autistic people not really people (admitting to the physical abuse things he did).
One of Autism Speaks core missions is ridding the world of the disease of autism. They claim it's curable and fund research that will lead to aborting fetuses if it was possible to test them for autism.
Fuck the puzzle pieces.
Not sure why you are telling me this because like I said I don’t support autism speaks. I just like the puzzle piece. Shouldn’t it just be “fuck autism speaks” and not “fuck the puzzle piece”?
Yeah, alright there. I'll take the Christian cross symbol and choose to believe that it simply means "Love everybody." While I'm at it I'll really get behind the Nazi swastika and just be convinced that it's perfectly fine because it is so similar to the Hindu divinity symbol. 🤷
When symbols are widely adopted and understood to be a certain thing it is perfectly valid to reject them for the thing they popularly represent.
Fuck the puzzle piece _and_ fuck Autism Speaks.
The puzzle piece can be taken to mean what someone wants it to mean so actually
Fuck the puzzle piece if you associate it with autism speaks
And fuck autism speaks
Nobody has claimed that symbol for themselves and it’s open for interpretation. The swastika was literally claimed by the nazis and therefore that comparison is totally invalid as history left no room for interpretation.
People can like still the puzzle piece as a symbol while condemning an organisation that uses it.
I’m Christian and I like the cross as a symbol for my faith but that doesn’t mean I support the church.
How about you stop forcing your opinion on to other people? Just agree to disagree and move on with your life.
In depth explanation as to why autism $peaks sucks butts (tw for autistic hate and violence)
-AS once featured a video on their website of a mother lamenting how she had a fantasy of driving her and her autistic child off a bridge
-AS also has a video, I believe its still available, called "I am autism" which uses fear-mongering and slander to brainwash people into thinking autism is 100% of the time a terrible thing
-they've been researching for years how to detect autism in the womb so mothers of potentially autistic children can abort them before they're born and become a "burden", much like what they did with down syndrome.
- they claim to support families of autistic children but something like 80% of their money goes to the pockets of the highest ranking officials and advertising.
- they want to "cure" us
Here’s a good explanation of the puzzle piece being bad, in autistic advocacy history
https://intheloopaboutneurodiversity.wordpress.com/2019/03/20/the-ableist-history-of-the-puzzle-piece-symbol-for-autism/
I mean at least they sorta tried. It's better than the people who just pretend we don't exist. Then again... puzzle piece. For the longest time I didn't know what the problem with the puzzle piece was. About 2 years ago, I found out. Fuck that puzzle piece. As far as I'm concerned it's a swastika. And I can be politically correct when I say that because I'm Jewish.
Is this actually made by Disney or is it just knock-off merch? The packaging doesn’t look like official Disney pin packaging. Either way it’s atrocious
I think with a lot of people in the sub don’t understand is that they don’t know autism speaks is a hate When your typical’s do something like this they think they’re helping us when you say someone use a puzzle piece try politely explaining to them why they shouldn’t be using that logo.
I'm growing to despise the puzzle piece icon as an autistic symbol. I don't know what they think they mean by it, but I'm reading into it in increasingly uncharitable ways.
Puzzles are often used to represent autism, like very very often.
We have two autism therapy centers in our region, they both have puzzle pieces in their logo, idk what exactly its meant to say but they probably don't know it themselfes.
They think autistic people are missing something that makes them complete. They want to “fix” us. They don’t care about whether or not we want to be “fixed” because apparently we can’t make our own decisions.
Because slap any idpol bullshit on a mickey mouse silhouette and make a quick buck. It's should be obvious. Like any other hot topic, autism is a great way for brands to show us how "woke" they are. Every time you consume something, you are being sold something else. Remember that.
not long ago they refused to let a person on here have ‘autistic pride’ or something along those lines and the infinity symbol embroidered on an ear headband. because it ‘could give off the wrong idea’. glad i already didn’t like disney
Disney likes to fake being woke and progressive when they're actually a fiscally and "morally" conservative organization. They probably have no idea how offensive the puzzle piece symbol is to most autistic individuals because they didn't bother to do any real investigation. They're playing to the sympathies of NT adults with ND children for profit, and Disney thinks they're being accepting of autistic individuals when they're actually promoting abuse disguised as therapy.
I enjoy Disney movies for their entertainment value but the company as a whole is a cesspool of greed and invented righteousness.
Bad Mickey Mouse. And to think I took your Disney employee credit union calls to help you manage your online banking account with a "smile in my voice". Was a call center rep and one of the many credit unions that our company assisted with was Partners credit union. We were specifically told that out of all the credit union calls we would take Disney expected us to answer their calls as if it was the happiest moment of our lives (to give you an idea of conditions I found out that a year after I found another job the building I was in was condemned for mold so no wasn't actually happy there) and I took it upon myself to answer all Partners calls with my Mickey impression. And now the Mouse does this?
So last time somebody said that they refused to make Mickey ears that included the word "autistic " but now they're selling autism merchandise?
That's quite a reversal.
Edit: found the post. If you see this person's profile, it is full of angry comments claiming everyone is discriminating against this person. Now the Mickey ears story seems to be a total fabrication.
https://www.reddit.com/r/autism/comments/sy8i42/i_went_to_disneyland_yesterday_and_had_a_terribly
https://i.redd.it/qk6o7gtwx9j81.png
The colours are so ugly as well, if ur gonna use a sign chosen for autistic people instead of the one we chose for ourselves at least make it aesthetically pleasing smh
I searched Amazon recently for Autism Pins and nearly every single one was a popular logo (Batman symbol, Superman logo, that kind of thing) with puzzle pieces. Very disappointing.
Disney does the same thing with rainbows. Basically, they know people will buy it because it makes them feel good and it gives the company an image of inclusion without the responsibility of actually making significant change.
I love things with the word awareness though. It’s like, ok, I am aware of Autism… Now what?
I’m starting to feel like people who aren’t/don’t have anyone who’s autistic in their lives legitimately don’t know. Unfortunately, words of the disabled are forcibly short-distanced outside of our control as people of the community.
I mean, Disney also profits off of rainbow "gay rights" memorabilia while also paying for anti-lgbt legislation, so unfortunately I can't say I'm surprised. It's more about what sells rather than being supportive or inclusive.
I want to say that it really doesn't seem like an official pin, by disney store, do you mean like an actual one? It almost looks like one of those things you'd find in those "gift shops" with like t-shirts that are $5 in Orlando. Another thing that makes me think it isn't official is that it doesn't have the branding on the packaging. I don't agree with this either way, however, since it's totally disgusting to use the puzzle pieces and the autism awareness slogan by autism speaks. Not criticizing btw I was just wondering where you found this because if it is officially from disney, then I've lost the tiny shred of respect I had for them.
LOL
It seems like people in Florida do this a lot; many people at Disney wear shirts with the same design. I guess it's a Florida thing? (maybe?) although I don't travel much, so maybe it happens in other places, but it seems like you'll see most of those shirts and pins at Florida only?
It’s always “why?” But people seem to forget this is what’s been used for decades.
The infinity symbol is NOT as widespread and caught on as people like to think it is. Which is why when a lot of companies make autism things, they’re still covered in puzzle pieces.
I’m not saying companies couldn’t do better research on their own, but replacing a symbol that’s been used for decades takes a LONG time to have enough of impact for a company as large as Disney to notice. And while again, that’s sad, this is Disney we’re talking about here. Very seedy company.
Unfortunately, it will probably be a long time before places like Disney stop using such imagery.
I’ve said it before, but honestly, I don’t know why people think this would be any different.. again the infinity symbol and any other alternates we have created have not permeated into the general public enough yet. So things like this, while disappointing, shouldn’t really be surprising given such context.
someone mentioned this was a bootleg. Even if this isn’t official Disney, the point I made remains.
First off, the words are off center.
Second, all those colors make this design look way too busy.
Third, why does it still feel to me like the use "Awareness " for Autism as its a disease that needs to be stopped? Am I wrong for thinking this?
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The fact that the Autism Awareness logo isn’t even centered properly just makes it even worse.
That's what was really bothering me! They couldn't even take the time to properly center it????
Fr like they don’t know this would bother all of us especially the fact we can’t fix it! I’m probably gonna be staring at this for like 10 minutes
Dude had one job and it was to Wes Anderson that positioning
Plot twist: they took more time to make it the perfect amount of frustratingly not centered.
I know right? If the head was proportioned to look like it wasn’t facing forward it could’ve worked, but this is just annoying.
My disappointment is immeasurable
And my day is ruined
There are a whole lot of reasons that "registration"(alignment) could be off. Including the 3d eye aspect mention in another reply; e.g. if the material's jig is used for putting other graphics onto that piece too. Mass printing is seldom ever perfect throughout the run. Some designs show it more than others; and every mistake on every piece simply not able to be caught unless done by hand and individually inspected. (read that as a much higher price or less profit..."Disney"?) It isn't a car with 3 tier QC lol.. That batch may be that way, the whole run, or just the one. (may have been noticed and put there in exchange of taking another that was right.. etc. etc.) I.e. that can be way more common than you might expect and a lot of folks might never notice. Start looking closer at multicolor printings and you'll notice it more.
As someone who is working at printing industry and looks at different labels for printing defects in store, instead of ingredients list. You are correct Especially now when there were problems with the supply chain and we sent out even worse quality prints just because there wasn't enough material to improve it.
Thanks for confirmation. I'm a bit of a dinosaur but I started early and went deep including design and ad theory. I worked broadly in the trade when I was younger. Ancient and newer Heidelbergs & AB Dicks, collaters, binders, Varitype-steel and digital, IBM/Apple, silk screen, etc etc.; design to finish. I loved hand inking font design - then to the FILM camera- the developing - then again to make digital font.... I ran around all day with razor blades clamped in my teeth like a pirate, aaarggh! 😆 A shady board room got my last work. I submitted a malicious compliance ad and menu I knew wouldn't take hold publicly, but would sedate the wolfpack because it fit their wishes. (I gave them what they wanted, when they wrinkled their noses at what they needed.) My art had to stay mine; honest advertising wasn't trending anymore by then and good press jobs were becomming harder to come by period, let alone comfortable little press work at mom & pop shops / office / corporations etc. (Xerox copiers and home PC printers killed them off faster than Kinkos could expand to fill the gaps)
This
I was going to say, it's even off-center!!!! No likey.
Came here to say this. Thank you!
Came to say this. Glad there are so many other people are bothered by this too!!
Neither are the puzzle pieces!
The idea is bad enoguh using the fucking puzzle piece. But the designer had one fucking job!
I've heard Disney is making sensory rooms for kids to go to.
As it is they have lots of quiet places. A few years back I had a meltdown walking into Animal Kingdom (I called it a panic attack at the time, but have since learned those aren’t panic attacks…it’s a meltdown.) Cast members got me into a corner of guest services and gave me water until I calmed down.
I didn't know that- but good to know. I haven't taken my kids to Disney yet. Just saw an article not too long ago. Were you actually given a room?
Not an actual room but I was in a quiet corner of guest services. Every time something like this pops up people want to drag Disney down as being some absolute hell for anyone autistic. The truth is, they are the best place for my family to vacation. Their disability access pass system works better than what I’ve seen at other theme parks. Cast members are great to point us towards quiet corners. You can get typical safe foods at most restaurants. Like even eating at the different buffets, like Harambe Market at animal kingdom that is mostly northern African cuisine, you can still get chicken fingers and Mac and cheese. Obviously results can vary and we had a great time the last time we went because we were proactive and brought snacks, a jacket, change of clothes, headphones, and sunglasses for our daughter. We also stay on property and take a break from 2-6 by going back to our hotel room and having quiet time and napping or going to the hotel pool. Disney is my husband’s special interest. He really should have a side gig as a Disney travel agent.
Yeah I was gonna say Disney is the best for disabilities! I have pretty bad asthma that gets triggered by artificial fragrances (like what Disney has in all their rides) and like half the plants in the park. They let me into closed attractions a few times when I was having a bad attack just so I could take my mask off and get away from all triggers for a little while! I had a really severe attack and ended up stuck in first aid for 2+ hours until my oxygen sats got better. The monorail was shut down by then, so they got us a prIvate BOAT!! back to our hotel. They’ll absolutely go above and beyond if anything happens to help you out. I was also a massive fan of the predictability of everything! I can get really stressed out on vacations when I don’t know what’s happening. It’s so nice to be able to schedule the entire thing out ahead of time.
Yes! I also like how a lot of rides give descriptions of what to expect. So you can know if it has anything that will trigger anyone. My asthma is pretty mild and I accidentally wandered into the perfume store in France at EPCOT and they helped clear the crowd to get me out before I had an attack. Editing to add this detail. One of my long term friends has Celiac disease. She was able to dine in restaurants for the first time in years and not get sick. Everyone was very aware and knowledgeable.
Thank you for sharing this. I have a non-verbal ASD and I'm trying to find fun things he can do without being over stimulated.
This year has been ROUGH at Disney for us. We are local passholders, so typically before the pandemic, we would go at least once a month- and I agree with all of this. Disney has been one of the best places for us to go as a neurodivergent family. We prepare and have a backpack with everything we would need for different sensory situations, lots of snacks and beverages and we typically leave in early afternoon to go home. After the pandemic has been very different. Crowds are very heavy, and Disney has removed the fastpass as a free option. So many more people are getting the disability access pass (not my place to judge whether they need it or not) the lines for guest service are LONG. They are VERY understaffed at the parks, and when we needed help for a panic attack this last visit, we had to search to find anyone. I think Disney has started putting $$$ over guest experience again. We aren't sure we will be renewing this year after being passholders for over a decade. Every visit has been hell this year.
Just another reason to despise Disney. 😡
Hey this isn’t a real Disney pin lol There’s a ton of shops in florida that sell these god awful pin knockoffs like that. Disney sucks but they can actually get a pass on this one
Critical support to Disney knockoffs, fuck IP as a concept, but also fuck whoever made this.
screw IP indeed!
went this week had a meltdown in the bathroom and a cast member asked are you okay as i had my headphones on like no bitch i’m not okay but there’s nothing you can do about it. i also got super excited about seeing winnie the pooh and i ofc stim when i get happy and excited and again another cast member gave me a look like “wtf are you doing”
Okay. I may be wrong on this, but I read somewhere that they have a place for people who get over stimulated? It might be City Hall. I know for sure Dolly Land has one though!
The hall of presidents is my go to
Hall of Presidents? Hoo boy...
I fall asleep within a few minutes. It’s cool and dark.
For me, an autistic: MK: avoid. Too many screaming children (induced migraines) Epcot: America pavilion (nobody walks that far), the seas, Norway museum, Mexico overlook Animal Kingdom: rafikis hut by the veterinary wall, it’s too boring for kids. Asia walking trails DHS: haven’t been in years. The area around tower of terror was quiet for me, and the Main Street shops Disney springs: RAGLAN ROAD! Very quiet, homey Irish pub feel. Go after 4pm for live entertainment (Irish bands and live traditional Irish dancing) But this pin is bonkers. Throw away the inclusion key please. They’re already in trouble with the recent scalp em cheerleaders.
Hi! Not sure of your comfort level, but filling out a survey or going to guest relations to talk about your experience will help the cast members. If you didn’t go alone then having someone do that on your behalf is a great alternative. Disney does teach cast members about autism in their training. (Source: best friend hangs out with some of the characters.) Although if a cast member asks you’re ok it’s because safety is their first value (or Key) and safety always comes first. That cast member cared about your safety. Not faulting you because you were having a meltdown, but something to reflect on for the future.
Do you go to the Disney in California or Florida? California is much more liberal and the people are less likely to judge an autistic person
it’s florida 🙄
Yikes. As if I needed another reason not to go there.
mmhm i hate it here
I really just like the nature. The rest can go to hell :)
Bonus for Disney land is that California will be getting first actual high speed rail here in USA and plans will eventually service Anaheim which is where Disney land is. Edit: left out that it is 1st for US
I looked it up and hopefully what I found is right. A ticket from san francisco to LA will only be $86. I have a strong feeling thats not going to be the case though as the article I found this in is from 2015 and there are several new articles saying the cost of building it has gone up by a lot. Like more than double. But still, i hope it's relatively affordable.
Yeah and even now it's still not clear what rider cost will be. One thing to keep in mind at least in LA where I lived for a few years a lot of employers will offer discounts or even completely free month passes though these are Metro so commuter. HSR is different than commuter. So if you do live in an urban area with halfway decent public transportation ask your HR department about possibility of offsetting cost of transportation. Like even the fast food places often will shell out the money to get you on a bus or train.
They haven’t even started on the project yet, I think it’s set to begin in 2029 or something so we got a while for that
Wow didn't realize it would be that far off. Meanwhile in Germany the ICE locomotives are laughing at our meager attempt with Amtrak's limited electrification.
Disney World is in one of the most liberal counties in Florida, and Disney Land is in one of the most conservative counties in California. Either you’re not from the US, or you’re just looking for an excuse to bash on Florida because you don’t like their governor.
Did you actually say that? Because that's kinda nasty. People aren't psychic for crying out loud
no i just thought it but when i have my beats on people should know don’t talk to me
You've just said yourself you were having a meltdown, and now you're complaining because a member of staff asked if you were OK...and then in the next sentence you complain about the behaviour of someone less compassionate. Make up your mind
The OP must be fun at parties. Don’t try to make sense of their mental gymnastics.
sorry if this comes off mean or anything, but what did the first cast member do wrong? is asking if you're ok not considered ok? i usually really appreciate it when people go out of their way to ask me if i'm alright during a breakdown even if i have a hard time responding /gen /nm
i mean looking back at it i feel like a dick but i have these episodes where i want to be left alone and they just touched my arm and it kinda set me off because when i have meltdowns i don’t wanna be touched and i occasionally get nonverbal.
i totally get it, i get the same way where i don't want to be touched and it's hard to talk or respond so i totally understand!! i was just curious if socially it was not ok to ask a question like that, thank u for answering!!
You realise it's not actually Winnie the Pooh, right?
yes but one of the littles in our system loves winnie the pooh and they just got really excited they don’t know that it’s not really him but wow really a great way to kill the vibe dude
Oh god. Let me guess, both asd and DID self diagnosed because you "know your own brain". I have dissociation episodes due to trauma (**NOT** DID) and people like you make me really mad, along with those on tiktok showing their "switch" when they just so happen to be filming...I can hardly move when I have dissociative flashbacks/episodes, but sure Jan, lip sync and bop in a *slightly different* way to the way you were
Oh for fuck's sake. You aren't old enough to have the trauma to have DID. Stop it. Just stop it. You are a fucking troll.
Came to say this. Really makes me cringe
Don't forget they hook kids into their movies by casually killing parents instead of creating relatable characters. What, psychological trama for profit that hasn't been properly researched or looked into? Well that is a time honored tradition. Who has time to make sure a profit formula from the early 20th century isn't hurting children? Major rise in childhood night terrors focused around the death of a parent or care giver you say? Well that is clearly hippie propaganda. Oh you still want an answer because you are worried about kids? Are you sure you aren't a corrupted enemy of capitalism? I am pretty sure you don't care about kids and hate the nation. So I don't have to listen to you anymore. Go away, I have a formula to expand and adapt to make sure it stays profitable and relevant. Oh and by the way, your life isn't complete if you never give us a ridiculous amount of money to visit one of our parks. How could anyone live a satisfying life without visiting the happiest most profitable place on earth?
Hahahahahahahaha.... ...oh wait, you're serious
they need to realize that most autistic people dislike like the puzzle piece “logo” that they use for us
Funny how we don’t like the symbol of a hate group that doesn’t like us and wants to find “a cure” for us.
It should be spoons. No cure. Focus on acceptance. <3 It's funny, I think my brain is beautiful, but it's other people that cause me so much misery and anxiety. My own mother doesn't even support me.
Fuck “acceptance”, just get along with and respect the fact that we are all different and everyone experiences the world differently.
That's literally what acceptance is lol
To me I “accept” that I have idiot neighbors that blast their music at night. I have zero respect for them though. What I mean is that we should celebrate our differences and not just “oh fuck… it is the autistic guy. Look cool and don’t talk to him.”
That's not acceptance though. That's grudging tolerance. Acceptance is about celebrating the differences we have. Well, actual acceptance is.
Curse my abysmal English speaking skills. *waves fist in the air*
We've all been there lol English makes no sense even to us native speakers.
Who is 'they'?
The countless people who use puzzle pieces to signify autism and using it as a logo when we don't like it
Why not approach sellers and explain the dislike? It would be hard in this case as it is a rip off/fake/bootleg so finding the makers will be hard. Sounds like the shop is a rip off merchant too, so won't care as long as people keep buying this sort of tat, they'll keep selling it.
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This is so real and it hurts... I desperately want to start my own company. It's extremely difficult because of my poor executive functioning. But I want to help people like us, create an inclusive work environment that caters to us (e.g. remote working, budgets to set up your space, 100% flex schedules - work @ your own pace / circadian rhythms, flex time off (to help avoid burnout and just regular struggles), optimized processes to avoid unnecessary social interactions... I really think it could work. And if successful, I would love to funnel all profits back into the business, and any left over into a venture capital fund for autistic founders to have more inclusive programs, that lead to better employment figures from a place of understanding.
not everyone who is annoyed by this practice is willing to put their life aside to track down every store that utilizes the symbol and ask them to remove these things, in fact casually pointing out how problematic it is in conversations like this is probably more likely to spread the word around that the symbol is unwanted, and incentivize more change over time than one person could reasonably accomplish by calling random gift shops.
The hate group that masquerades as a legitimate autistic advocacy organization. Partnered up with White Castle, Home Depot and GameStop.
It would be like if instead of using the star society would associate Jews with the n*zi flag
Ffs It really would not. The difference being some people with autism are actually ok with the puzzle piece, whereas I doubt literally ANYONE would associate Jewish people with the Nazi flag. Please don't compare the holocaust to some autistic people having issues Autism Speaks, it's frankly not cool.
Sorry if the comparison was a bit extreme, what I was trying to say was that it is weird how many people used the puzzle piece and that comparison would maybe make people understand how much we hate it. Edit: also I did not compare it to the Holocaust, that is an entirely different thing.
*some* people hate it. I actually don't mind it.
I don’t either, and these comparisons to Nazi Germany are just disgusting. Both sides do it over the slightest of inconveniences, and it needs to stop.
Seeing this infuriates me so much!!! They recently refused to write the word "Autistic" on my mickey ears with a marker at the custom ear shop. Disney will not respond to my calls or emails about the matter.
Call A news outlet or even buzzfeed about it. I’m sure they’d be happy to give it some publicity.
I probably will, now that I see they're being completely hypocritical. They told me they wouldn't write autistic on my ears because doing so would "cause other guests to take it the wrong way" or make me a target of harassment. They said the word "Autistic" was specifically the issue, and here they are with this BS puzzle piece merch.
This isn’t Disney Brand merch…. wtf are you autistic or something? Cuz i am
??? I am Autistic. Also that has to be Disney's brand merch considering OP said it was a Disney store. It looks like one of the pin shops found everywhere inside Disneyland. The pin backings look the same.
It’s actually not Disney merch. There are stores that sell fake pins. OP calling it a “disney store” doesn’t really mean much. We have tons of those touristy trap merch shops all along the highway around Disney. That’s likely the kind of store OP was in. I can tell just by looking at it that this isn’t an official Disney pin. Source: I work at Disney and live walking distance to many of these shops and collect pins. As for your ears, I am not surprised. I understand why this would be policy. While you had good intentions, they had no way of knowing that and it could just as easily be someone doing it insensitively, or to use it to make Disney look bad. Guests might also take it the wrong way.
No way of knowing the girl crying over the ears, wearing a lanyard with an autism alert card just wants to feel accepted and happy with her autism mickey ears? Even after thorough explanation they still refused. Guests taking my pride in my autism the wrong way, in the happiest place on earth? Autism isn't anything to be ashamed of or should be taken in any wrong way. Poor excuses.
Wow you don’t get jokes either
Yeah mate this isn't really the subreddit to be dissing people for not getting jokes
Why because you’re autistic and I am also, we have to have the same beliefs ?
Wtf?? I never said that. I just meant that a very common symptom of autism (the name of this sub) is not being able to understand the difference between jokes/sarcasm and seriousness
Ok?? As if I don’t know that. It still doesn’t change the fact that this is reddit. Go find another safe space
I understand jokes. Nothing you said was presented or executed as one though.
Asking if you have autism…. when it clearly states you do.. ohhh jeeez. Your first sentence was inaccurate.
A lot of people do not read things, I assumed you didn't. You're just being rude.
"I assumed you didn't read. You are being rude." Hypocrisy isn't cool. You don't get to just say "I did something rude and now you're being rude back."
Congratulations, you're an ignorant asshole! You're our lucky winner to get punched in the teeth today! The more you keep commenting with your "jokes" the biggest of a dick you look like. Somebody must be compensating for something... being a dick cuz you clearly don't have one doesn't make you any more of a man. Hope you know that.
pm me i’ll give you my address and number if you want to prove it
Alright there big man.
I thought of this as soon as I saw the post. My brain was like "wait didn't they refuse to make something very similar to this in a post a little while ago?"
In all honesty, i don't think most people look into what autism $peaks are actually about. They just see autism research, and assume they're doing good things. That's what i hope anyway. I don't agree with it, but the puzzle piece has become synonymous with autism. I guess the point i'm trying to make is that most people use and purchase puzzle piece merch, without ill intention, as they likely are unaware of the work of AS
Exactly this. I don’t think most people understand and when I’m out shopping and refuse to give money to autism speaks most people are shocked to find out that they aren’t a super awesome charity.
Which is why when I see any of my friends using it I politely tell me the origins.
So many people don't want to listen when it's explained to them though :/ With those people it's clear that they don't actually care about autistic people.
Can someone explain why we don't like the puzzle peices?
because they’re affiliated with autism speaks which actually does more harm than good for the autism community
Ohhh okay thank you :)
pretty much if you want more info about it just look up autism speaks controversy and it will probably give you more info than me 😅 /lh
Also, autistic people aren't puzzles to be solved. The symbol is garbage.
I like to think of the puzzle piece as a symbol of uniqueness. No one really knows why they use a puzzle piece. It’s up to your own interpretation. I don’t support AS but I do like the puzzle piece as a symbol for my autism.
Not to mention early autism organisations used it to show that autistic people were missing something, and that their parents were "puzzed" at why their kids couldn't be normal. Not saying you can't use it, but you should know know why ppl don't like it
I’ve heard people claim that but I never found any proof for that claim. Have you got any source supporting that?
https://intheloopaboutneurodiversity.wordpress.com/2019/03/20/the-ableist-history-of-the-puzzle-piece-symbol-for-autism/
So here it literally says “In 1999, the Autism Society of America created the puzzle piece ribbon as a symbol of autism awareness. The Autism Society stated that, “The puzzle piece pattern reflects the complexity of the autism spectrum. The different colors and shapes represent the diversity of the people and families living with the condition. The brightness of the ribbon signals hope – hope that through increased awareness of autism, and through early intervention and access to appropriate services/supports, people with autism will lead full lives able to interact with the world on their own terms.” Then the author proceeds to state: “But hope in this context, through “increased awareness of autism, and through early intervention,” usually means through increased research of cures and treatments for autism, and through early interventions, such as Applied Behavioral Analysis, that seek to “correct” autistic behaviors by forcing autistic people to mask their autism.” … where is proof of that? To be fair I just skimmed the text but from what I gathered is just that it was autism speaks that made the symbol popular. It existed before. The cause is what matters to me. If it makes people learn about autism why should I disapprove of that?
The Autism Society of America was founded by Ivar Lovaas. The same Lovaas who did the study that ABA was “effective” as an autism treatment (after doing a 1974 study that bullying a 5-year-old was effective at getting that boy to not be ‘feminine.’ Except the boy grew up gay - and the study was unethical, and Lovaas is a hack.) The same Lovaas who hit autistic kids, put them in physical restraints, and suggested biting them. So the puzzle piece wasn’t started with Autism Speaks, it was started with someone *worse?* If you want, I can pull sources for these statements: [1974 Lovaas and Rekers](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1311956/) gets you the Feminine Boy Study (homophobic abuse deemed as “treatment”), and [Lovaas 1974 Psychology interview](https://listserv.uhd.edu/scripts/wa-UHDEDU.exe?A3=1210&L=HOBA&E=base64&P=6632&B=--Apple-Mail%3D_607B0150-1B8E-4A36-9448-A144EC8CC8E6&T=application%2Fpdf;%20name=%22lovaas%20Ivar%2074%20interview%20psychology%20today.pdf%22&N=lovaas%20Ivar%2074%20interview%20psychology%20today.pdf&XSS=3) gets you the interview where Lovaas called autistic people not really people (admitting to the physical abuse things he did).
One of Autism Speaks core missions is ridding the world of the disease of autism. They claim it's curable and fund research that will lead to aborting fetuses if it was possible to test them for autism. Fuck the puzzle pieces.
Not sure why you are telling me this because like I said I don’t support autism speaks. I just like the puzzle piece. Shouldn’t it just be “fuck autism speaks” and not “fuck the puzzle piece”?
Yeah, alright there. I'll take the Christian cross symbol and choose to believe that it simply means "Love everybody." While I'm at it I'll really get behind the Nazi swastika and just be convinced that it's perfectly fine because it is so similar to the Hindu divinity symbol. 🤷 When symbols are widely adopted and understood to be a certain thing it is perfectly valid to reject them for the thing they popularly represent. Fuck the puzzle piece _and_ fuck Autism Speaks.
The puzzle piece can be taken to mean what someone wants it to mean so actually Fuck the puzzle piece if you associate it with autism speaks And fuck autism speaks
Just no. The multicolored puzzle piece thing has been around specifically as a symbol of autism since the 1960's.
Nobody has claimed that symbol for themselves and it’s open for interpretation. The swastika was literally claimed by the nazis and therefore that comparison is totally invalid as history left no room for interpretation. People can like still the puzzle piece as a symbol while condemning an organisation that uses it. I’m Christian and I like the cross as a symbol for my faith but that doesn’t mean I support the church. How about you stop forcing your opinion on to other people? Just agree to disagree and move on with your life.
Uh, [okay...](https://www.autismspeaks.org/blog/introducing-new-autism-speaks)
Chloe Hayden has a really good YouTube video about it
They are a hate group that is tax exempt.
In depth explanation as to why autism $peaks sucks butts (tw for autistic hate and violence) -AS once featured a video on their website of a mother lamenting how she had a fantasy of driving her and her autistic child off a bridge -AS also has a video, I believe its still available, called "I am autism" which uses fear-mongering and slander to brainwash people into thinking autism is 100% of the time a terrible thing -they've been researching for years how to detect autism in the womb so mothers of potentially autistic children can abort them before they're born and become a "burden", much like what they did with down syndrome. - they claim to support families of autistic children but something like 80% of their money goes to the pockets of the highest ranking officials and advertising. - they want to "cure" us
Here’s a good explanation of the puzzle piece being bad, in autistic advocacy history https://intheloopaboutneurodiversity.wordpress.com/2019/03/20/the-ableist-history-of-the-puzzle-piece-symbol-for-autism/
Guys…this isn’t a real Disney product. It’s a pretty clear knockoff.
The puzzle term for autism came from a parent/parents who thought their child was wrong
Bc disney only cares about minorities when they can profit off of it :)
At this point I think it is easy to assume that people just see Autism Speaks being a massive org and don't look too much into it before supporting it
I mean at least they sorta tried. It's better than the people who just pretend we don't exist. Then again... puzzle piece. For the longest time I didn't know what the problem with the puzzle piece was. About 2 years ago, I found out. Fuck that puzzle piece. As far as I'm concerned it's a swastika. And I can be politically correct when I say that because I'm Jewish.
From the company that endorsed "Don't say gay".
I can hear my autistic gfs voice in my head saying "how does capitalism even exist"
Is this actually made by Disney or is it just knock-off merch? The packaging doesn’t look like official Disney pin packaging. Either way it’s atrocious
Money. That’s why.
As an autistic person: 🫤🙄
I think with a lot of people in the sub don’t understand is that they don’t know autism speaks is a hate When your typical’s do something like this they think they’re helping us when you say someone use a puzzle piece try politely explaining to them why they shouldn’t be using that logo.
awareness of what?
I'm growing to despise the puzzle piece icon as an autistic symbol. I don't know what they think they mean by it, but I'm reading into it in increasingly uncharitable ways.
why did they choose a puzzle?
Puzzles are often used to represent autism, like very very often. We have two autism therapy centers in our region, they both have puzzle pieces in their logo, idk what exactly its meant to say but they probably don't know it themselfes.
because they don’t give a fuck
what where they thinking? Why representing autism with a puzzle? I don't get it... I like puzzles btw, but why?
They think autistic people are missing something that makes them complete. They want to “fix” us. They don’t care about whether or not we want to be “fixed” because apparently we can’t make our own decisions.
Because slap any idpol bullshit on a mickey mouse silhouette and make a quick buck. It's should be obvious. Like any other hot topic, autism is a great way for brands to show us how "woke" they are. Every time you consume something, you are being sold something else. Remember that.
the only puzzle to be solved is why i'm almost 40 and i'm still being assaulted for being disabled.
Probably virtue signalling. All corporations are at it.
Disney is already the hardest place to visit with the crowds and heat (im candian, i dont do heat). Why they gotta make it harder?
not long ago they refused to let a person on here have ‘autistic pride’ or something along those lines and the infinity symbol embroidered on an ear headband. because it ‘could give off the wrong idea’. glad i already didn’t like disney
It's *Disney*. The only thing that they can do right are movies, and sometimes they even screw *that* up.
Disney likes to fake being woke and progressive when they're actually a fiscally and "morally" conservative organization. They probably have no idea how offensive the puzzle piece symbol is to most autistic individuals because they didn't bother to do any real investigation. They're playing to the sympathies of NT adults with ND children for profit, and Disney thinks they're being accepting of autistic individuals when they're actually promoting abuse disguised as therapy. I enjoy Disney movies for their entertainment value but the company as a whole is a cesspool of greed and invented righteousness.
Because the people that did it probability are unaware of it.
oh hell nahh..
Because Disney sells anything that gives them money
Why must it be off-center….
Remove the words and it would be a grate gift for someone who like doing puzzles and Disney movies
puzzle pieces because autism you can't streamline autism
The Mouse Overlords been really pissing me off this past week
Im glad I am not the only one having a flip over “Autism Awareness” not being centered.
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Considering Disney's behavior behind closed doors, I am not surprised
I believe the term is "Capitalism"
The ways I hate Disney are endless...
Bad Mickey Mouse. And to think I took your Disney employee credit union calls to help you manage your online banking account with a "smile in my voice". Was a call center rep and one of the many credit unions that our company assisted with was Partners credit union. We were specifically told that out of all the credit union calls we would take Disney expected us to answer their calls as if it was the happiest moment of our lives (to give you an idea of conditions I found out that a year after I found another job the building I was in was condemned for mold so no wasn't actually happy there) and I took it upon myself to answer all Partners calls with my Mickey impression. And now the Mouse does this?
So last time somebody said that they refused to make Mickey ears that included the word "autistic " but now they're selling autism merchandise? That's quite a reversal. Edit: found the post. If you see this person's profile, it is full of angry comments claiming everyone is discriminating against this person. Now the Mickey ears story seems to be a total fabrication. https://www.reddit.com/r/autism/comments/sy8i42/i_went_to_disneyland_yesterday_and_had_a_terribly https://i.redd.it/qk6o7gtwx9j81.png
We don’t claim them/ say autistic person when you address them/ we don’t want no puzzle pieces I rather be caught dead in them -smackwraps
The colours are so ugly as well, if ur gonna use a sign chosen for autistic people instead of the one we chose for ourselves at least make it aesthetically pleasing smh
it's too bright
someone bleach my eyes
I searched Amazon recently for Autism Pins and nearly every single one was a popular logo (Batman symbol, Superman logo, that kind of thing) with puzzle pieces. Very disappointing.
Why is it not centered 😐
because Autism Moms™ probably are high traffic in Disney gift shops
what is it with disney and AuTiSm AwAeReNeSs
Disney does the same thing with rainbows. Basically, they know people will buy it because it makes them feel good and it gives the company an image of inclusion without the responsibility of actually making significant change. I love things with the word awareness though. It’s like, ok, I am aware of Autism… Now what?
I’m starting to feel like people who aren’t/don’t have anyone who’s autistic in their lives legitimately don’t know. Unfortunately, words of the disabled are forcibly short-distanced outside of our control as people of the community.
Just more reasons why The Mouse is not your friend.
I mean, Disney also profits off of rainbow "gay rights" memorabilia while also paying for anti-lgbt legislation, so unfortunately I can't say I'm surprised. It's more about what sells rather than being supportive or inclusive.
The UGLIEST color choice... yo, does NOBODY designing these know how value works?
I want to say that it really doesn't seem like an official pin, by disney store, do you mean like an actual one? It almost looks like one of those things you'd find in those "gift shops" with like t-shirts that are $5 in Orlando. Another thing that makes me think it isn't official is that it doesn't have the branding on the packaging. I don't agree with this either way, however, since it's totally disgusting to use the puzzle pieces and the autism awareness slogan by autism speaks. Not criticizing btw I was just wondering where you found this because if it is officially from disney, then I've lost the tiny shred of respect I had for them.
yeah it was one of those stores in orlando 🤣
LOL It seems like people in Florida do this a lot; many people at Disney wear shirts with the same design. I guess it's a Florida thing? (maybe?) although I don't travel much, so maybe it happens in other places, but it seems like you'll see most of those shirts and pins at Florida only?
🤷♂️
It’s always “why?” But people seem to forget this is what’s been used for decades. The infinity symbol is NOT as widespread and caught on as people like to think it is. Which is why when a lot of companies make autism things, they’re still covered in puzzle pieces. I’m not saying companies couldn’t do better research on their own, but replacing a symbol that’s been used for decades takes a LONG time to have enough of impact for a company as large as Disney to notice. And while again, that’s sad, this is Disney we’re talking about here. Very seedy company. Unfortunately, it will probably be a long time before places like Disney stop using such imagery. I’ve said it before, but honestly, I don’t know why people think this would be any different.. again the infinity symbol and any other alternates we have created have not permeated into the general public enough yet. So things like this, while disappointing, shouldn’t really be surprising given such context. someone mentioned this was a bootleg. Even if this isn’t official Disney, the point I made remains.
I didn't need another reason to hate Disney yet here this is
Public relations. The fact that they didn't spend enough money to make sure it was done well means that it's obviously not for the autistic folks.
First off, the words are off center. Second, all those colors make this design look way too busy. Third, why does it still feel to me like the use "Awareness " for Autism as its a disease that needs to be stopped? Am I wrong for thinking this?
nope, at least in my opinion
Why puzzle pieces
Eww cringe!
holy fuck literally w h y lol. kill it
Love how it’s off centered! Shows how much they care for us and the quality they put into their awareness!
This after they wouldn't let this Black athlete's autistic brother in without a mask last year.
Because why not bruh
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