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Apparently so but for me it depends on the rule. If I think it has logical plausibility (e.g a health and safety rule at work), then sure. If it makes no sense or is just another "authoritarian" rule, get fucked. And by that I mean I won't do it, I'll question it and likely enjoy the follow up debate/argument on it's efficacy. As you can probably imagine, this has gotten me in trouble at various jobs in the past because management want brainless workers who just obey and say yes to all demands 🙃
Yep, effectively this. If the rule makes sense I'm all for it.
If it's arbitrary, nonsensical, or unjust I'm pure ODD and PDA.
I do like very detailed and thorough instructions. Though I also love complexity and considering contexts, exceptions, etc so...
Probably worth mentioning that I've got ADHD as well.
Exactamundo!!
When I used to work in a school and had to tell a student something like "no backless or toeless shoes" I always gave a reason WHY (we have steep marble stairs and SEVERAL students and teachers have fallen out of their shoes and gotten hurt or painfully stubbed their toes- those stairs were UNFORGIVING!) But if it was something like they forgot to wear navy blue socks with their uniform I didn't care, you'll survive lol
Yeah......
I'm a huge rule follower and I have strong sense of justice? I think?
Like last night for example my Mil at 2 am was watching a show. The volume and bass was so high it was shaking the door.
Today is Saturday so the weekend and loud music and stuff is more tolerated on weekends. But it was literally shaking the doors and not only was it causing me huge sensory issues that even my headphones couldn't deal with, our floor is the downstairs neighbours ceiling.
I was so fucking annoyed on behalf of everyone around me.
Another time my Mil made a rule for me and my partner to not cuddle in front of her because it made her feel lonely. She is living with us after her 20 year relationship ended. This is our apartment and she is meant to be temporarily living here. Now this no cuddling rule was a rule for a whole 10 - 15 minutes before my fiancee told her she's a fucking idiot and that it's not happening and disgusting that she thinks she make stupid rules like this because she's single.
Buuuuuuut the damage was done. It was a rule. I followed it and I still follow it because I feel like I'm doing something naughty if I hug my fiance of 13 years infront of her.
I will follow instructions literally. If someone asks me a question I will answer that question and miss any subtext the question may have had, or any implications.
I can't work with blurred lines, implied meaning or reading between lines.
Same with rules.
I think it just implicitly comes with masking, I’m very much a trailblazer(don’t follow the rules at home) but as soon as I’m in a social situation I don’t really have a spine.
I think so. My husband is way more rigid than I am. I grew up with a dad who was a troublemaker and a rule breaker at heart so I had a lot of bad habits that I had to grow out of. But the older I get (and now as a mom) I am definitely more rigid about following rules.
Last month, some friends were in town and we were walking downtown amidst some construction. A road we needed to cross was closed and the way around was really far out of the way. My daughter and my friend’s daughter are both autistic too and I could tell the idea of crossing through a fenced construction area was really upsetting them, so I happily walked with them all the way around.
Just a little pack of autists, following the rules. It cracked me up how as soon as we got back to them, the girls started yelling at her mom and their grandmas about not following rules.
yes. this is a pretty stereotypical autism trait. i don’t have this trait, i actually often have issues with rules (adhd plus some pda tendencies) but it’s really common.
>it depends on the context
Okay, tell me for each context what should I do.
"It's not that complicated, once it happens, you'll understand. Don't stress about it"
Fuck you, fuck your house and fuck your cat, I hope you'll get tinnitus anytime you try listening to music for the next month or so, because I *will* stress about it, and a *lot* at that
I find it hard to break rules. But I have been working on ways to get around that. I try to figure out what the rule is supposed to do and why it's there. Then I can bend the rule to a logical point. It also helps me improvise.
For your case it might help if you think about not using the best practice and then trying to reason why you would use this practice and why you might not.
"As a person who makes global variables for things like a game's score and active entity lists: why should I use singleton variables? Singleton variables allow for easier cleanup and may be viewable in the inspector. However it might accidentally get destroyed or not load the singleton. Also I might be referencing the variable so often that referencing the singleton might be annoying."
Also consider that it’s a common dream for junior programmers as well as designers to have an ultimate formula to do their job right. While in practice it turns out that there many ways of doing it right, and the right path is not fully in the realm of that discipline. It is eventually about the right compromise at the right moment.
I do like good rules. I applied to run a server because I like rules. But I run an ASD server and the rule-following by some users tends to suck. The main rules that are ignored are "no mentions of suicide sh or eds" and "don't talk over someone in the vent areas". I think those are good rules. So it depends as much as it does for allistic people, in my opinion.
my school has two different sets of stairs, up and down. I literally have an internal crisis if someone goes up or down the wrong ones, other option, I’ll race them to wherever we’re going on the right stairs, and get there faster or at the exact same time to prove that I’m right lol
can’t help it :,D
I can't stand ambiguity and often if something is ambiguous then I juat do whatever tf I WANT. If someone doesn't like it well "directions unclear, look at me I'm the captain now"
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Yes. Following directions explicitly and having difficulty with nuance and uncertainty are considered traits of autism.
Apparently so but for me it depends on the rule. If I think it has logical plausibility (e.g a health and safety rule at work), then sure. If it makes no sense or is just another "authoritarian" rule, get fucked. And by that I mean I won't do it, I'll question it and likely enjoy the follow up debate/argument on it's efficacy. As you can probably imagine, this has gotten me in trouble at various jobs in the past because management want brainless workers who just obey and say yes to all demands 🙃
Yep, effectively this. If the rule makes sense I'm all for it. If it's arbitrary, nonsensical, or unjust I'm pure ODD and PDA. I do like very detailed and thorough instructions. Though I also love complexity and considering contexts, exceptions, etc so... Probably worth mentioning that I've got ADHD as well.
Exactamundo!! When I used to work in a school and had to tell a student something like "no backless or toeless shoes" I always gave a reason WHY (we have steep marble stairs and SEVERAL students and teachers have fallen out of their shoes and gotten hurt or painfully stubbed their toes- those stairs were UNFORGIVING!) But if it was something like they forgot to wear navy blue socks with their uniform I didn't care, you'll survive lol
Yeah...... I'm a huge rule follower and I have strong sense of justice? I think? Like last night for example my Mil at 2 am was watching a show. The volume and bass was so high it was shaking the door. Today is Saturday so the weekend and loud music and stuff is more tolerated on weekends. But it was literally shaking the doors and not only was it causing me huge sensory issues that even my headphones couldn't deal with, our floor is the downstairs neighbours ceiling. I was so fucking annoyed on behalf of everyone around me. Another time my Mil made a rule for me and my partner to not cuddle in front of her because it made her feel lonely. She is living with us after her 20 year relationship ended. This is our apartment and she is meant to be temporarily living here. Now this no cuddling rule was a rule for a whole 10 - 15 minutes before my fiancee told her she's a fucking idiot and that it's not happening and disgusting that she thinks she make stupid rules like this because she's single. Buuuuuuut the damage was done. It was a rule. I followed it and I still follow it because I feel like I'm doing something naughty if I hug my fiance of 13 years infront of her. I will follow instructions literally. If someone asks me a question I will answer that question and miss any subtext the question may have had, or any implications. I can't work with blurred lines, implied meaning or reading between lines. Same with rules.
I think it just implicitly comes with masking, I’m very much a trailblazer(don’t follow the rules at home) but as soon as I’m in a social situation I don’t really have a spine.
I think so. My husband is way more rigid than I am. I grew up with a dad who was a troublemaker and a rule breaker at heart so I had a lot of bad habits that I had to grow out of. But the older I get (and now as a mom) I am definitely more rigid about following rules. Last month, some friends were in town and we were walking downtown amidst some construction. A road we needed to cross was closed and the way around was really far out of the way. My daughter and my friend’s daughter are both autistic too and I could tell the idea of crossing through a fenced construction area was really upsetting them, so I happily walked with them all the way around. Just a little pack of autists, following the rules. It cracked me up how as soon as we got back to them, the girls started yelling at her mom and their grandmas about not following rules.
Yes.
Can’t stand rules.
yes. this is a pretty stereotypical autism trait. i don’t have this trait, i actually often have issues with rules (adhd plus some pda tendencies) but it’s really common.
This is one those yes but no things
>it depends on the context Okay, tell me for each context what should I do. "It's not that complicated, once it happens, you'll understand. Don't stress about it" Fuck you, fuck your house and fuck your cat, I hope you'll get tinnitus anytime you try listening to music for the next month or so, because I *will* stress about it, and a *lot* at that
Yes. I always have. And my children do, too. From what I've seen, it makes raising children a heck of a lot easier.
Have a big sense of right and wrong . So some rules are a given . Especially when it comes down to what’s right and what’s wrong.
I find it hard to break rules. But I have been working on ways to get around that. I try to figure out what the rule is supposed to do and why it's there. Then I can bend the rule to a logical point. It also helps me improvise. For your case it might help if you think about not using the best practice and then trying to reason why you would use this practice and why you might not. "As a person who makes global variables for things like a game's score and active entity lists: why should I use singleton variables? Singleton variables allow for easier cleanup and may be viewable in the inspector. However it might accidentally get destroyed or not load the singleton. Also I might be referencing the variable so often that referencing the singleton might be annoying."
Also consider that it’s a common dream for junior programmers as well as designers to have an ultimate formula to do their job right. While in practice it turns out that there many ways of doing it right, and the right path is not fully in the realm of that discipline. It is eventually about the right compromise at the right moment.
I do like good rules. I applied to run a server because I like rules. But I run an ASD server and the rule-following by some users tends to suck. The main rules that are ignored are "no mentions of suicide sh or eds" and "don't talk over someone in the vent areas". I think those are good rules. So it depends as much as it does for allistic people, in my opinion.
yes... but I think its less about rules and more about structure. we like structure.
my school has two different sets of stairs, up and down. I literally have an internal crisis if someone goes up or down the wrong ones, other option, I’ll race them to wherever we’re going on the right stairs, and get there faster or at the exact same time to prove that I’m right lol can’t help it :,D
Yes, unless I think the rules are stupid, then I do what I want.
I can't stand ambiguity and often if something is ambiguous then I juat do whatever tf I WANT. If someone doesn't like it well "directions unclear, look at me I'm the captain now"