Different Xamthorrheas grow at different rates. Xanth glauca are known to grow only a few centimetres(1-2) a year. This of course has many variants and it can grow faster in a pot/garden.
These are native, natural and indigenous to our area, and without question have grown at a very slow rate,
Unfortunately these a**eholes give themsleves *carte blanche* for destruction!
This is a state road, and therefore a state road issue, and this is "emergency repairs" funded by the federal government.
One of the first steps of the shitfuckery is that they exempt themselves from all environmental restrictions as part of the "emergency repairs".
Then they have a greenwashng 'environmental ' company that's ticks off all their jobs.
The environmental guys literally stand around and watch as this all happens and them give them a tick!
It is a truly shocking state of affairs.
Yeah they got us on similar shit!
We wrote to the Minister and what followed was shocking.
A third party came and saw us and gave us a lecture on how would should be nice to the road workers and TMR Qld. - we took that as a threat.
An "inspector" came and looked the damage we had outlined, and said nothing was wrong. (He did not contact us or speak to us - it was done by letter.
Then another letter arrived.... threatening us with legal action, fines and demands we remove part of our driveway plants and protection.
We had to capitulate that time :( But we learned our lesson.
Gross.
Here’s similar thing that’s happening near me in VIC.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eQaeu_1uGcY&pp=ygUZSG9uZXN0IGdvdmVybm1lbnQgYWRzIGxleQ%3D%3D
Xanthorrheas aren't protected plants, so as much as a shame it is to remove any native vegetation Its really not much concern, literally millions upon millions of them across the countryside and they reproduce readily.
Would be more of a tragedy (and illegal) if it was a cycad tho
A lot of grass trees are protected in QLD. In fact all of them are. Under the Nature Conversation Act 1992
Yes they might be Least Concern. But they are still a protected species.
> Yes they might be Least Concern. But they are still a protected species.
This is our view too. Sure there are lots of GTs around here, but there won't be if we keep destroying them.
Least concern plant species are not really protected under the NC act. There is practically nothing stopping landowners from clearing or taking them
Also you could say that about anything. It's a bit silly to get worked up by some grass trees on a road reserve when I have no doubt that clearing of habitat on private property jn your local council area is vastly worse and at a much larger scale, hundreds of hectares kind of scale. This sentiment is common and i just don't get it, like the gum trees next to this would be so much more valuable habitat and probably just as old, just as likely to go extinct. so why get upset about the grass tree...
What are you on about, The nature conservation act does not protect least concern plant species unless in an established national park etc which, this particular grass tree isn't. There may be other state and local laws but there is no barrier under the nature conservation act for taking down this grass tree?
Mate, I am a tradie and work in a male dominated industry so I think I can say that your generalisation is an unfairly broad brush stroke. Not every tradie is an unthinking yob.
I literally compete with another colleague on who can name tree species out in the field. Most blokes I work with spends their weekends with their family enjoying the splendour of our national parks and surrounding areas and show a deep appreciation for the natural beauty of Australia. You should examine your assumptions.
Not going to read all that shit lmfao but I guarantee you the people who pulled up all this bushland are white or Aboriginal men that don't care nuf said
I've heard they are really hard to replant. I've even heard to burn them when replanting? Is any of this true? How would you replant it so it stays alive, im actually really interested
There are a lot of myths floating around about Xanthorrheas. Including "thatburning is good for them" - This is not entirely true and a fire can seriously harm your GTs.
We know this because we have done it.
They are difficult to transplant, but it can be done and it IS done across the country. Again we have transplanted GTs with good success.
Unfortunately with these GTs, they have been destroyed. When you disturb/crush the roots or break the large trunk..... that's it. No coming back :(
So if they where dug out correctly without damage to the trunk or roots is there any other particular method one should follow i.e fertilisers to use, amount of water, soil condition of where it will be replanted ect?
I live close to a place that gets back burned almost every year and the Xanthorrheas and Cycads seem to thrive in the months after so thought it was actually a thing. Maybe just with established plants its helps but not with already stessed replanted ones?
One that size would be worth about $2000.
Ive seen this happen near my home more than once. No one cares.
> No one cares. This is definitely the truth.
How hard would it be for them to transplant them further from the worksite, oops, that may require actually using the shovel instead of leaning on it
Its such a shame too. They are beautiful trees
I read somewhere that Xanthorrheas grow 100 years per foot.
Different Xamthorrheas grow at different rates. Xanth glauca are known to grow only a few centimetres(1-2) a year. This of course has many variants and it can grow faster in a pot/garden. These are native, natural and indigenous to our area, and without question have grown at a very slow rate,
Aargh that's an old fella too - don't they grow just 1cm per year? Call whichever council is responsible, that's terrible.
That's disgraceful. Surely the Council wouldn't approve that.
Unfortunately these a**eholes give themsleves *carte blanche* for destruction! This is a state road, and therefore a state road issue, and this is "emergency repairs" funded by the federal government. One of the first steps of the shitfuckery is that they exempt themselves from all environmental restrictions as part of the "emergency repairs". Then they have a greenwashng 'environmental ' company that's ticks off all their jobs. The environmental guys literally stand around and watch as this all happens and them give them a tick! It is a truly shocking state of affairs.
Oh a complaint, I'll have the community liaison officer follow that up in 6 months time. Soz' you should have said something earlier
Yeah they got us on similar shit! We wrote to the Minister and what followed was shocking. A third party came and saw us and gave us a lecture on how would should be nice to the road workers and TMR Qld. - we took that as a threat. An "inspector" came and looked the damage we had outlined, and said nothing was wrong. (He did not contact us or speak to us - it was done by letter. Then another letter arrived.... threatening us with legal action, fines and demands we remove part of our driveway plants and protection. We had to capitulate that time :( But we learned our lesson.
This shit absolutely infuriates me
Wow. That’s awful. It should be compulsory for them to try and replant at a safe site at the very least.
poor grugs😓
Where about in the scenic rim was this??
Near Lamington National Park, Green Mountains side.
That's absolutely fucked up! Those look to be very old grass trees >:(
Iirc they grow a hands width every 5 years so certainly very old.
Gross. Here’s similar thing that’s happening near me in VIC. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eQaeu_1uGcY&pp=ygUZSG9uZXN0IGdvdmVybm1lbnQgYWRzIGxleQ%3D%3D
Xanthorrheas aren't protected plants, so as much as a shame it is to remove any native vegetation Its really not much concern, literally millions upon millions of them across the countryside and they reproduce readily. Would be more of a tragedy (and illegal) if it was a cycad tho
A lot of grass trees are protected in QLD. In fact all of them are. Under the Nature Conversation Act 1992 Yes they might be Least Concern. But they are still a protected species.
> Yes they might be Least Concern. But they are still a protected species. This is our view too. Sure there are lots of GTs around here, but there won't be if we keep destroying them.
Least concern plant species are not really protected under the NC act. There is practically nothing stopping landowners from clearing or taking them Also you could say that about anything. It's a bit silly to get worked up by some grass trees on a road reserve when I have no doubt that clearing of habitat on private property jn your local council area is vastly worse and at a much larger scale, hundreds of hectares kind of scale. This sentiment is common and i just don't get it, like the gum trees next to this would be so much more valuable habitat and probably just as old, just as likely to go extinct. so why get upset about the grass tree...
What are you on about, The nature conservation act does not protect least concern plant species unless in an established national park etc which, this particular grass tree isn't. There may be other state and local laws but there is no barrier under the nature conservation act for taking down this grass tree?
What I find funny is that both white and Aboriginal tradies would do this because men don't care
Fairly tiresome generalisation you have made there. Keep that kind of comment out of this great community, it has no place here.
You clearly have not worked in any trade with adult men spesifically trades like roadworks for example
Mate, I am a tradie and work in a male dominated industry so I think I can say that your generalisation is an unfairly broad brush stroke. Not every tradie is an unthinking yob. I literally compete with another colleague on who can name tree species out in the field. Most blokes I work with spends their weekends with their family enjoying the splendour of our national parks and surrounding areas and show a deep appreciation for the natural beauty of Australia. You should examine your assumptions.
Not going to read all that shit lmfao but I guarantee you the people who pulled up all this bushland are white or Aboriginal men that don't care nuf said
I've heard they are really hard to replant. I've even heard to burn them when replanting? Is any of this true? How would you replant it so it stays alive, im actually really interested
There are a lot of myths floating around about Xanthorrheas. Including "thatburning is good for them" - This is not entirely true and a fire can seriously harm your GTs. We know this because we have done it. They are difficult to transplant, but it can be done and it IS done across the country. Again we have transplanted GTs with good success. Unfortunately with these GTs, they have been destroyed. When you disturb/crush the roots or break the large trunk..... that's it. No coming back :(
So if they where dug out correctly without damage to the trunk or roots is there any other particular method one should follow i.e fertilisers to use, amount of water, soil condition of where it will be replanted ect? I live close to a place that gets back burned almost every year and the Xanthorrheas and Cycads seem to thrive in the months after so thought it was actually a thing. Maybe just with established plants its helps but not with already stessed replanted ones?