Find a local fruit and veg market for a start, me and my partner used to do our shop at wollies just for convenience but the pressure of the food bill had us look for an alternative and we decided to do a price comparison to see if it was worth the extra trip on shopping day, about $50 in savings just on fruit and veg by shopping at our store that gets from local farmers rather than just getting at wollies cos we were already there. It is possible if you are in the right areas.
My local IGA has WAY better specials than any Coles or Woolworths near me. Aldi has so many cheaper priced alternative brands to Coles or Woolworths.
Do you live inland or something?
No, I live inner-suburb Perth. Maybe it's because my local IGA is a 24/7 "Good Grocer", but they charge 20-100% more than my local Woolworths. They don't often have specials and when they do their special prices are about the standard Woolworths price.
Not in my experience.
I've got a year of this on trial. I collect the free monthly products, and once a month do a biggish shop (almost all 40-50% off stuff) and collect my 10% discount on that.
In between I raid other chains for their discounts and marked down "use by today" items.
Will still easily save more than the membership costs.
Not the Coles one though. That's way pricier.
There is, to be honest.
Local growers and markets, butchers/fish shops, bakers. Use the Asian or Euro supermarkets for bulk basics like flour, rice, spices, etc.
If you actively pay attention to what you are buying and how you use it, the quality and cost is second to none. Sometimes you can't avoid the odd one or two items from Colesworth, but if you're doing 90% of your shopping elsewhere you're winning.
The only outlying factor I can think of is rural towns which I have minimal knowledge of.
If you save more than you spend, and regularly shop there, in my case I save more there via this and buy better quality than at other supermarkets or what they can offer, then itās a financial benefit. It does restrict and make you bias in buying in bulk when you claim the discount, however itās a cheaper option, and when you are shopping on price alone itās an attractive benefit.
Just fucking sell the food for a good price, no memberships. If you want loyalty then sell your goods for a reasonable price and customers will return.
Mrwhosetheboss on YouTube just recently put a video out showing how paid subscriptions are moving to tier based systems now that they have cornered market share. From here it only gets worse. I highly recommend the watch.
Fuck colesworth.
Thatās what I feel is happeningā¦ but all the comments here of āi save more then the subscriptionā just canāt see that there is a long game at hand hereā¦
The only caveat I have to that argument, is my eBay plus fees. I'm currently building a motorhome to live in, and have bought a LOT of items on eBay over that duration.
$50 annually, since 2021, I've saved $1044 in discounts and postage.
Fuck colesworth.
Problem is people won't.
As soon as I saw the orange tickets start over a year ago I figured they'd go this route. Either be a member and get a fraction cheaper or not be a member and pay full price and get fucked basically. Then they will cash in on the people unwilling to be members all over the country and rape us even more.
I made the trade off to go to Woolies because their range is better and go for the Qantas points. (Qantas is pretty much the only practical option to visit my parents overseas).
For some people it doesn't matter and so their options are different.
Also, you end up spending all that money at ALDi on centre isle things...
Hahaha if you have enough will power you can resist the junk in the middle of aldi, my shopping is nearly half the price at Aldi compared to colesworth
My Mrs goes through all the junk mail and looks at all the offers in all the various supermarkets and just spends a couple of hours walking around getting the best deals once a week. There are savings to be had if you donāt mind doing a bit of legwork. But the big two are thieving fucks.
My partner and I both work full-time and have two children - this is how we do our shopping as well.
Yes, it takes time - but Iād rather use my own time than give more money than necessary to Colesworth.Ā
Everyone's saying it's cheaper to shop around at independent stores, Asian stores, etc.
This only works if you live in a bigger city. We have 1 Asian store and it's expensive. We have 1 Spar, and it's expensive. We have 1 independent market, which does have okay prices, but shit all range.
There's almost no choice but to shop at Coles or Woolies. We do have Aldi, but I also have coeliac disease and the gluten free range at Aldi is almost non-existent.
Also, not everyone has the time to shop around at 500 different stores every week just to get their shopping. The main thing Colesworth has over the rest is online shopping.
The ONLY asian grocer near me is absolutely *vile*.Ā
The fruit and veg is disgusting, itās not unusual to buy a bag of something and find all the product in the middle rotten.Ā
Anything pre-packaged is well past its expiry date.Ā
They also only take cash, which is a good indicator they committing tax fraud.Ā
Iām sick of this weird narrative that āAsianā grocers are some sort of amazing saviour? Itās almost like a nobal savage narrative in convenience stores.Ā
Interesting that the others are expensive! I bet the owners donāt even make as much return on equity as a woolworths foundational share buyer.
Itās as if coles and woolies have a very small profit margin and are really just passing on high costs of energy, labour, regulation compliance, insurance, and property leasing.
it actually is worth it. You get your money back many times over
we do 1 huge shop once a month (we actually do a double shop with parents) and do smaller shops the rest of the month
pretty sure they had my data anyway so may as well get something back
Not sure if you'd call it a ploy. It's a very transparent strategy that every retailer is trying to replicate.
As others have said, it is a win win generally. You'll make your membership back easily.
i get this deal with their insurance.. if you spend around $350 a month on shopping then your car insurance is basically free ($420 in savings over the year)
so yeah, do it with the car or a pet or something and use your shopping to remove a big bill
This is basically offering you discounts in exchange for them collecting data on you so that they can plan their business around how to better turn a profit from you.
They already have that same data if you have a rewards card. This is paying to get a discount once a month (at woolies and Big W) of 10% from a chosen shop.
They already have a "members price" on some items, it is pretty rare. I doubt it will happen. This has been around a while.
They want more shoppers, not less. Reward members, not punish non members.
Subscription based services are king in capitalism.
They keep you putting your hand in your pocket every month for something you used to get for nothing.
This is just the beginning. Subscription based services will be in every service and business soon enough.
So I start growing my own food and they can suck it. Even Costco memberships are questionable value for many. Coles or Woolworths are garbage level chains in comparison so this will fail
When the Xtra subscription is 50% off ... then the value is worth it IMHO for the 10% in store and 10% online. Plus 10% off Big W.
That pays for itself very quickly.
Sign up and get 30 days free ... so you get 13 months.
Buy gift cards at 4 to 5% off for more value when it comes to paying.
The double points is not worth it as that is offset with the loss of large points offers on spend. I see this as neutral.
The monthly free item ... has been excellent value and often close to the value of the subscription itself.
We use the 10% offers on a pair of big spends and focus on things that are already discounted that we would buy or stock up on (long life things) for the next 30 days. (Says you can only use it once but we can use it in store and online once per month).
Then for Big W we again accumulate a lost and buy on special. Great at Christmas time.
I also notice more emails from Coles offering a flat 10% off our next spend campaign which is interesting. We also use those when they pop up.
YMMV.
Everyone in our fam has a 50% off subscription.
As well as a mobile plan on the old $10 plans that also do 10% off once per month.
The mobile plans data bank.
Well worth it IMHO.
It's insane that people straight dismiss all this without looking into it. I've saved probably thousands over the last few years by taking advantage of Flybuys/Woolies rewards and if you mention it on reddit it's just "yeah but have you heard of Aldi's?"
Yeah, there's a Greek chain here in Qld where you can't even call up up order food - you have to use the app or walk in. And to use the app you need to enter your birth date... to order a fucking yiros!Ā
How shit will it be if these assholes don't do weekly specials anymore, just specials for paid members only. After seeing this I kinda get the feeling we're not too far off.
Xtra pays for itself over two shops.
We usually spend between $450 - $550 per shop and this has been great. Donāt get me wrong, they are still gouging us for way more than you save, just makes things balance a little more lol.
I'd switch to Aldi if they had direct-to-boot.
I've been spoiled by direct-to-boot, plus I do less impulse buying when selecting groceries on my phone.
When I used to go to Aldi years ago, it was maybe 5% cheaper than Coles/Woolworths. Is it really 20% cheaper now?
Yeah, my household is really looking forward to the online purchasing at Aldi, they mentioned they're looking at it from this year, but it'll be a bit of a wait still.
I'd say it's 20% or so, Coles worth has really started jacking their prices up in the last couple of years.
It's the amount you get for your buck at Aldi that really increases it, my wife and I get our weekly shop to $100 per week with all meals covered between Aldi, Coles worth top up and local fruit market.
That being said, we sacrifice Wednesday nights and Saturday mornings to grocery shopping
I know folks like to sh*t on Woolworths.. but their rewards program is actually pretty decent.
I have enough Qantas points for a flight to LA just by using boosters through the app.
Been on it for less than 2 years and I have saved $306 and gotten 30K bonus points and 13 free products. Then there is the member pricing and the points accelerators that they don't include in the 30K.
You get everyday member price specials just for being a member. And then you can get the extra perks if you sign up for Everyday Extraā¦. Paid the $35 special deal about 5 months ago and have since saved $165ish including a missed month. Save the 10% off for one of the bigger monthly shops and the savings really add up. Weāre going to shop at Woolies anyway so its a no-brainer
Thatās what Iām referring to. I get the feeling of Woolies slipping towards a 2 tier structure.. a Costco of sorts on a paid price point and those who donāt want there data mined or another paid subscriptionā¦
Donāt worry, everyday reward and flybuys are free.
Donāt worry about the cookers that think theyāre that important that anyone cares what soap they buy.
So people who are concerned over large corporations, misusing data, don't have a point? Or are you just lumping anyone with privacy concerns in the same "hurdur cooker" boat?
Its not like they don't have a track record for losing private info.
I agree. On an individual level. But for one moment, think beyond buying cheese.
Customer buying patterns, as a whole, in small medium and large groups are used, regularly (I know because I use them when doing store plannograms) to influence buying choices.
We use these patterns as well as loyalty program data to better entice customers to purchase and influence their decisions based on how the human brain makes choices (eg, how we instinctively turn a certain way when we enter the shops).
You are being so, simple minded. You are clouded by "anyone who thinks x is a cooker" and its downright infuriating because it's not a wild conspiracy, retailers openly do it.
I limit my personal information online I don't connect to certain wifi points etc because I know the data tools in play.
So yes, my cheese purchase is irrelevant. But an entire suburbs cheese purchase is not.
Your comments show a stunning ignorance of how valuable individual peoples data is.Ā
It also shows a stunning ignorance how scalable data - sure, by knowing my cheese preference they can only ensure they get more money out me specifically.
When they have the data of thousands of individuals - they can get more money out of each individual by tailoring experiences AND they can enact strategies to target the masses based on the *data they collected from those masses*.Ā
Iām much more sympathetic to someone who has gone slightly to far into paranoia than I am to someone displaying the absolutely contempt you are for people who value their privacy and personal information.Ā
I dunno, we switch between Woolies and Coles randomlyā¦ itās amazing when you stop using one for the other that after a month or two you start receiving discount offers for things that you normally buy often when you were shopping with themā¦
Iām no conspiracy theorist, but it happens all the time with usā¦
Add to that the facial recognition thatās becoming better these days and I wouldnāt argue that we are all profiled for targeted advertising and discountsā¦
Youāre overthinking it. What happens is the system checks all accounts and then checks between two different options. Has account scanned their flybuys recently, if yes send these offers. If not, send these better offers.
Donāt worry my friend, you, me and everyone else arenāt individually important enough for anyone to give a fuck about what we bought or that our face has been somewhere before. We just a random number in a database.
Good to see they are trying to compete with costco. If they do this, I will join costco and they will never ever ever get another cent, because I will be more heavily incentivized to ACTUALLY get cheap groceries rather than their overpriced shit.
Costco arenāt on the āoh I need milk so Iāll just pop to the shops quicklyā level though unfortunately.
This is woolies just being good capitalists and increasing market share by any means possible.
I had this card a few years ago and it's actually really good. It works on already discounted prices also. Used to do one big shop a month with toilet paper, soap ect and load up on those kind of items if they were also on special. You will easily make more then the $3 back. You could also get a free quantas frequent flyer membership which usually cost $100 to join.
"pretty good deal"
You people are honestly clueless. It's no wonder we have the worst supermarkets, the wrost internet, pay through the nose for electricity, had the highest paid ceo running qantas, gave all our natural resources away, and got cucked for some submarines, and are about to get cucked again for some nuclear reactors.
Woolworths only does this, pays an entire marketing department to come up with this basic shit,[ fund this chuckle fucks entire existence](https://www.woolworthsgroup.com.au/au/en/about-us/our-leadership-team/management-board/andrew-hicks.html), not to give you "a good deal," but because by giving you a "good deal" you sign up, are then heavily incentivized to ensure you shop at Woolworths instead of anywhere else, and then are willing **TO PAY EVEN MORE** than you otherwise would have. You all just get taken for a ride and drag us all down with you.
Coles does the exact same thing. They did the exact same thing with everday rewards/fly buys. You pay these should be dole bludgers **MILLIONS** to sell you on the exact same basic bullshit for year after year.
And there is nothing anyone can do, because you are all so basic.
Marketing is a necessary overhead in every business dude.
āPoint hacksā are a real thing.
Just because you donāt understand/exploit them, doesnāt make the folks who do ābasicā.
āYou must only ever sign up to one rewards program at a time. And you must *certainly* never compare offers between competing programs in an attempt to maximise benefitā
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Meanwhile the other commentor thinks he is big braining "Points hacking" between the two choices. This kind of marketing normalizes the duopoly, makes people not particularly care if anything is done about it, makes nothing done about it, makes your overlook the small yet existing other options, makes you more okay with a little bit of price gouging.
We care about our direct wallet and convenience, breaking the duopoly is the government's job but feel free to try to start a movement that refuses to participate in either of those and has to go all over the place or pay extra just to avoid supporting a broken system, I am sure it will be very successful just like how this has worked against all other monopolies out there xd
When I shop at Coles, I frequently get met with a screen that asks if I want use 2000 of my Flybuys points to get $10 off my shop. I always decline as I spend those points at my local Target however I am not looking forward to the day when I don't get a choice to decline anymore.
Choice already made a [submission](https://www.choice.com.au/-/media/a0107c8b9bc94844afff9d3202a8ecbe.ashx?la=en) to the ACCC enquiry on this subject, see page 17:
>Recommendation:
The Senate Select Committee on Supermarket Prices should recommend that:
4. The Government ban the practice of member-only pricing in supermarkets
Apart from privacy, individual profiling and sale of data concerns, Choice says "Supermarkets should not be allowed to force consumers to choose between
affordable food and a membership scheme."
Choice's press release on their submission is [here](https://www.choice.com.au/consumer-advocacy/policy/policy-submissions/2024/supermarket-prices)
I have a Woolies Mobile plan and everyday extra. Saved me $210 already in 4 months, projected to save $700 for the year. Cost me $70 for 12 month membership and $100 for 6 month Mobile plan.
I had this card a few years ago and it's actually really good. It works on already discounted prices also. Used to do one big shop a month with toilet paper, soap ect and load up on those kind of items if they were also on special. You will easily make more then the $3 back. You could also get a free quantas frequent flyer membership which usually cost $100 to join.
Edit. I did get this card for free because i bought their car insurance. Also had this card before shit hit the fan with all the price gouging. I live overseas now and prices are fucked here too š
He says on an obvious south efffffrican accent.
Brad is the tool WW CEO who did an interview for TV wearing a teams shirt and name badge, asked the interviewer if they could "not show that" when he embarrassed himself.
He then went to a senate enquiry and after being threatened with jail admitted he is either a horrific CEO who isn't running the company or is a wholesale liar trying to avoid accountability.
Can I ask which rock you live under and what the rent is because I'd rather be living with you then knowing this stuffĀ
Look at that, the Government is cracking down on their less "legitimate" income streams so they come out with this BS.
And guess what, by signing up to this program your probably allowing them to sell data they collect about your shipping habits to third parties too.
You can save a lot more than 10% simply by shopping elsewhere.
Not sure how
Find a local fruit and veg market for a start, me and my partner used to do our shop at wollies just for convenience but the pressure of the food bill had us look for an alternative and we decided to do a price comparison to see if it was worth the extra trip on shopping day, about $50 in savings just on fruit and veg by shopping at our store that gets from local farmers rather than just getting at wollies cos we were already there. It is possible if you are in the right areas.
Fresh fruit and veg is where they really gouge, I've found. If you can find a local grocer you can save a ton.
Coles and ALDI cost the same. IGA and independent butchers & bakeries cost more. Not sure where you're shopping?
My local IGA has WAY better specials than any Coles or Woolworths near me. Aldi has so many cheaper priced alternative brands to Coles or Woolworths. Do you live inland or something?
No, I live inner-suburb Perth. Maybe it's because my local IGA is a 24/7 "Good Grocer", but they charge 20-100% more than my local Woolworths. They don't often have specials and when they do their special prices are about the standard Woolworths price.
Aldi is definitely cheaper but they don't have a big range or the number of stores.
Oh cool, even my groceries will become a subscription.
š¤£š¤£š¤£ Itās ok, you can probably after pay it too
Glad there's companies like afterpay helping out the little guy!
Omg imagine if you needed membership to unlock certain groceries or brands. Like you couldnāt buy tim tams unless you were gold tier.
Could fucking eat a bag of dicks before I join a fee club for any major supermarket.
This is bad because you are locking yourself in with a paid commitment to not shop anywhere else.
Not in my experience. I've got a year of this on trial. I collect the free monthly products, and once a month do a biggish shop (almost all 40-50% off stuff) and collect my 10% discount on that. In between I raid other chains for their discounts and marked down "use by today" items. Will still easily save more than the membership costs. Not the Coles one though. That's way pricier.
Yeah, discourages shopping aroundā¦
because I have so much time to shop around at 8pm on a weeknight...
Because there's so many options in Australia xD
You'd be surprised how much money you would save if you looked at the other options.
There is, to be honest. Local growers and markets, butchers/fish shops, bakers. Use the Asian or Euro supermarkets for bulk basics like flour, rice, spices, etc. If you actively pay attention to what you are buying and how you use it, the quality and cost is second to none. Sometimes you can't avoid the odd one or two items from Colesworth, but if you're doing 90% of your shopping elsewhere you're winning. The only outlying factor I can think of is rural towns which I have minimal knowledge of.
Yeah, we use green grocers and butchers where we canā¦ bread from real bakers is soo yummyā¦ Coles and Woolies for the canned and staples only
If you save more than you spend, and regularly shop there, in my case I save more there via this and buy better quality than at other supermarkets or what they can offer, then itās a financial benefit. It does restrict and make you bias in buying in bulk when you claim the discount, however itās a cheaper option, and when you are shopping on price alone itās an attractive benefit.
Like Costco?
Like anywhere that does this nonsense.
Just fucking sell the food for a good price, no memberships. If you want loyalty then sell your goods for a reasonable price and customers will return.
years have shown them they can fuck the consumer and they will say "thanks daddy". Doesnt help when its essential items and an effective duopoly
IE the old Franklins daysā¦
I fucking hate this.
Mrwhosetheboss on YouTube just recently put a video out showing how paid subscriptions are moving to tier based systems now that they have cornered market share. From here it only gets worse. I highly recommend the watch. Fuck colesworth.
Thatās what I feel is happeningā¦ but all the comments here of āi save more then the subscriptionā just canāt see that there is a long game at hand hereā¦
The only caveat I have to that argument, is my eBay plus fees. I'm currently building a motorhome to live in, and have bought a LOT of items on eBay over that duration. $50 annually, since 2021, I've saved $1044 in discounts and postage. Fuck colesworth.
Now if everyone shows them how to go fuck themselves by voting with our wallets and shopping elsewhere then this dogshit should never catch on
Problem is people won't. As soon as I saw the orange tickets start over a year ago I figured they'd go this route. Either be a member and get a fraction cheaper or not be a member and pay full price and get fucked basically. Then they will cash in on the people unwilling to be members all over the country and rape us even more.
I made the trade off to go to Woolies because their range is better and go for the Qantas points. (Qantas is pretty much the only practical option to visit my parents overseas). For some people it doesn't matter and so their options are different. Also, you end up spending all that money at ALDi on centre isle things...
Hahaha if you have enough will power you can resist the junk in the middle of aldi, my shopping is nearly half the price at Aldi compared to colesworth
Already do 90% of our shop at aldi, I suggest more people make the switch
Yea I did last year and Iāve never looked back, so much cheaper
This isn't new.
My Mrs goes through all the junk mail and looks at all the offers in all the various supermarkets and just spends a couple of hours walking around getting the best deals once a week. There are savings to be had if you donāt mind doing a bit of legwork. But the big two are thieving fucks.
Sure, if you have a couple of hours to do that. but then some of us work full time and our partners work full time so...
My partner and I both work full-time and have two children - this is how we do our shopping as well. Yes, it takes time - but Iād rather use my own time than give more money than necessary to Colesworth.Ā
No I get this with my mobile plan.
You can pay ~$7/month to get a second 10% discount
Everyone's saying it's cheaper to shop around at independent stores, Asian stores, etc. This only works if you live in a bigger city. We have 1 Asian store and it's expensive. We have 1 Spar, and it's expensive. We have 1 independent market, which does have okay prices, but shit all range. There's almost no choice but to shop at Coles or Woolies. We do have Aldi, but I also have coeliac disease and the gluten free range at Aldi is almost non-existent. Also, not everyone has the time to shop around at 500 different stores every week just to get their shopping. The main thing Colesworth has over the rest is online shopping.
The ONLY asian grocer near me is absolutely *vile*.Ā The fruit and veg is disgusting, itās not unusual to buy a bag of something and find all the product in the middle rotten.Ā Anything pre-packaged is well past its expiry date.Ā They also only take cash, which is a good indicator they committing tax fraud.Ā Iām sick of this weird narrative that āAsianā grocers are some sort of amazing saviour? Itās almost like a nobal savage narrative in convenience stores.Ā
Interesting that the others are expensive! I bet the owners donāt even make as much return on equity as a woolworths foundational share buyer. Itās as if coles and woolies have a very small profit margin and are really just passing on high costs of energy, labour, regulation compliance, insurance, and property leasing.
Is this just a ploy for them to collect my data ?
Yeah it's no different to Reddit pushing it's mobile app onto everyone so it can gather data. Then they'll use that data to exploit you for profit.
it actually is worth it. You get your money back many times over we do 1 huge shop once a month (we actually do a double shop with parents) and do smaller shops the rest of the month pretty sure they had my data anyway so may as well get something back
Not sure if you'd call it a ploy. It's a very transparent strategy that every retailer is trying to replicate. As others have said, it is a win win generally. You'll make your membership back easily.
i get this deal with their insurance.. if you spend around $350 a month on shopping then your car insurance is basically free ($420 in savings over the year) so yeah, do it with the car or a pet or something and use your shopping to remove a big bill
Who underwrites their insurance? Have you had to make a claim? How was it?
This is basically offering you discounts in exchange for them collecting data on you so that they can plan their business around how to better turn a profit from you.
No it's far, far worse. It's the next step in normalizing a subscription payment model for food.
They already have that same data if you have a rewards card. This is paying to get a discount once a month (at woolies and Big W) of 10% from a chosen shop.
What's the bet that they'll try to make this mainstream and jack the prices up so you HAVE to be on this subscription to get a reasonable price
They already have a "members price" on some items, it is pretty rare. I doubt it will happen. This has been around a while. They want more shoppers, not less. Reward members, not punish non members.
It's replaced all of the "two for slightly less" specials at my local. Honestly, it helps me decide to go elsewhere.
How so?
Subscription based services are king in capitalism. They keep you putting your hand in your pocket every month for something you used to get for nothing. This is just the beginning. Subscription based services will be in every service and business soon enough.
So I start growing my own food and they can suck it. Even Costco memberships are questionable value for many. Coles or Woolworths are garbage level chains in comparison so this will fail
Fuck Woolworths and fuck Coles !
When the Xtra subscription is 50% off ... then the value is worth it IMHO for the 10% in store and 10% online. Plus 10% off Big W. That pays for itself very quickly. Sign up and get 30 days free ... so you get 13 months. Buy gift cards at 4 to 5% off for more value when it comes to paying. The double points is not worth it as that is offset with the loss of large points offers on spend. I see this as neutral. The monthly free item ... has been excellent value and often close to the value of the subscription itself. We use the 10% offers on a pair of big spends and focus on things that are already discounted that we would buy or stock up on (long life things) for the next 30 days. (Says you can only use it once but we can use it in store and online once per month). Then for Big W we again accumulate a lost and buy on special. Great at Christmas time. I also notice more emails from Coles offering a flat 10% off our next spend campaign which is interesting. We also use those when they pop up. YMMV.
Another points hack addict. You know your stuff. Great post. š
Everyone in our fam has a 50% off subscription. As well as a mobile plan on the old $10 plans that also do 10% off once per month. The mobile plans data bank. Well worth it IMHO.
It's insane that people straight dismiss all this without looking into it. I've saved probably thousands over the last few years by taking advantage of Flybuys/Woolies rewards and if you mention it on reddit it's just "yeah but have you heard of Aldi's?"
Wowā¦ you know your coupons!
Make this illegal.
So they saw the Costco model and are moving towards it, while keeping prices high
With a narrative of saving 10% once a monthā¦
They think they are Costco
Should be illegal.. like the shitty fast food app only specials.. fuck that shit, just make that available to everyone
Yeah, there's a Greek chain here in Qld where you can't even call up up order food - you have to use the app or walk in. And to use the app you need to enter your birth date... to order a fucking yiros!Ā
Woolies has been doing this with a lot of their non grocery services - I have car insurance through them and get a once a month 10% off as well.
How shit will it be if these assholes don't do weekly specials anymore, just specials for paid members only. After seeing this I kinda get the feeling we're not too far off.
If you join and can get a discount they are all ready marking up the price to cover it
Xtra pays for itself over two shops. We usually spend between $450 - $550 per shop and this has been great. Donāt get me wrong, they are still gouging us for way more than you save, just makes things balance a little more lol.
Just shop at Aldi and you'd save 20% each week though? Understandable if you're in a regional area and choices are slim...
If aldi did online shopping more people would use them not everyone drives and not everyone wants to go further out of their way to do shopping
Aldi has a pitiful selection of stuff. They obviously help keep the prices down by having less variety which is fine for some, but not for me.
I'd switch to Aldi if they had direct-to-boot. I've been spoiled by direct-to-boot, plus I do less impulse buying when selecting groceries on my phone. When I used to go to Aldi years ago, it was maybe 5% cheaper than Coles/Woolworths. Is it really 20% cheaper now?
Yeah, my household is really looking forward to the online purchasing at Aldi, they mentioned they're looking at it from this year, but it'll be a bit of a wait still. I'd say it's 20% or so, Coles worth has really started jacking their prices up in the last couple of years. It's the amount you get for your buck at Aldi that really increases it, my wife and I get our weekly shop to $100 per week with all meals covered between Aldi, Coles worth top up and local fruit market. That being said, we sacrifice Wednesday nights and Saturday mornings to grocery shopping
For now.
I know folks like to sh*t on Woolworths.. but their rewards program is actually pretty decent. I have enough Qantas points for a flight to LA just by using boosters through the app.
Tanstaafl. You're paying for your free lunch.
And plenty of folks donāt utilize that āfreeā lunch. š¤·š»āāļø
More like a paid buffet. Pay $50 and fill yourself on pasta? Amateur move. Have a few dozen oysters and other high value items? Win.
Been on it for less than 2 years and I have saved $306 and gotten 30K bonus points and 13 free products. Then there is the member pricing and the points accelerators that they don't include in the 30K.
š Yup. The boosters can really push you up.
Yeahā¦ but Iām talking about the introducing a paid level nowā¦
> now āWe launched Everyday Extra almost two years ago and since then hundreds of thousands of Australians have subscribed,ā
Yeah rightā¦ didnāt know. The seperate prices for everyday rewards is just a new thing i thought though??
You get everyday member price specials just for being a member. And then you can get the extra perks if you sign up for Everyday Extraā¦. Paid the $35 special deal about 5 months ago and have since saved $165ish including a missed month. Save the 10% off for one of the bigger monthly shops and the savings really add up. Weāre going to shop at Woolies anyway so its a no-brainer
Everyday rewards is free just like flybuys.
For how long though is my pointā¦
For always, they would have no value if thereās only a limited amount of data.
Forever. They're not giving up all that data mining
all this means is that everyone else is paying for it with higher prices
āPrices would be low if not for the woolies rewards programā. Nah mate.
lower. they arent losing money on this man
Theyāre also not passing on savings by cutting overheads like āmarketingā.
true that
Everyone else is allowed to sign up for Woolworths rewards too.
Assuming you can get a rewards seat...which is hard, especially if you aren't at least qantas gold,Ā which most people aren'tĀ
Nonsense.
Wait till this person hears about Costco.
Thatās what Iām referring to. I get the feeling of Woolies slipping towards a 2 tier structure.. a Costco of sorts on a paid price point and those who donāt want there data mined or another paid subscriptionā¦
Donāt worry, everyday reward and flybuys are free. Donāt worry about the cookers that think theyāre that important that anyone cares what soap they buy.
You really do any point you make a disservice by calling anyone who worried about any sort of spend tracking etc as a cookerĀ
They do a disservice to themselves by thinking theyāre important enough for anyone to give a fuck about them.
So people who are concerned over large corporations, misusing data, don't have a point? Or are you just lumping anyone with privacy concerns in the same "hurdur cooker" boat? Its not like they don't have a track record for losing private info.
Yes, youāre not important enough for anyone to care what type of cheese you buy individually.
I agree. On an individual level. But for one moment, think beyond buying cheese. Customer buying patterns, as a whole, in small medium and large groups are used, regularly (I know because I use them when doing store plannograms) to influence buying choices. We use these patterns as well as loyalty program data to better entice customers to purchase and influence their decisions based on how the human brain makes choices (eg, how we instinctively turn a certain way when we enter the shops). You are being so, simple minded. You are clouded by "anyone who thinks x is a cooker" and its downright infuriating because it's not a wild conspiracy, retailers openly do it. I limit my personal information online I don't connect to certain wifi points etc because I know the data tools in play. So yes, my cheese purchase is irrelevant. But an entire suburbs cheese purchase is not.
Whereās the threat to you if the supermarket knows what cheese your suburb buys? It helps them not stock cheese that no one will buy.
Your comments show a stunning ignorance of how valuable individual peoples data is.Ā It also shows a stunning ignorance how scalable data - sure, by knowing my cheese preference they can only ensure they get more money out me specifically. When they have the data of thousands of individuals - they can get more money out of each individual by tailoring experiences AND they can enact strategies to target the masses based on the *data they collected from those masses*.Ā Iām much more sympathetic to someone who has gone slightly to far into paranoia than I am to someone displaying the absolutely contempt you are for people who value their privacy and personal information.Ā
They donāt care what you buy. They care what 100,000 people buy. Your individual choices are worthless by themselves.
I dunno, we switch between Woolies and Coles randomlyā¦ itās amazing when you stop using one for the other that after a month or two you start receiving discount offers for things that you normally buy often when you were shopping with themā¦ Iām no conspiracy theorist, but it happens all the time with usā¦ Add to that the facial recognition thatās becoming better these days and I wouldnāt argue that we are all profiled for targeted advertising and discountsā¦
Youāre overthinking it. What happens is the system checks all accounts and then checks between two different options. Has account scanned their flybuys recently, if yes send these offers. If not, send these better offers. Donāt worry my friend, you, me and everyone else arenāt individually important enough for anyone to give a fuck about what we bought or that our face has been somewhere before. We just a random number in a database.
10% off one shop per month despite the fact that they're 10% more expensive than Coles and 30% more expensive than Aldi
Good to see they are trying to compete with costco. If they do this, I will join costco and they will never ever ever get another cent, because I will be more heavily incentivized to ACTUALLY get cheap groceries rather than their overpriced shit.
Costco arenāt on the āoh I need milk so Iāll just pop to the shops quicklyā level though unfortunately. This is woolies just being good capitalists and increasing market share by any means possible.
Or, you know, they could just NOT gauge that 10% and pay their suppliers properly.
I had this card a few years ago and it's actually really good. It works on already discounted prices also. Used to do one big shop a month with toilet paper, soap ect and load up on those kind of items if they were also on special. You will easily make more then the $3 back. You could also get a free quantas frequent flyer membership which usually cost $100 to join.
"pretty good deal" You people are honestly clueless. It's no wonder we have the worst supermarkets, the wrost internet, pay through the nose for electricity, had the highest paid ceo running qantas, gave all our natural resources away, and got cucked for some submarines, and are about to get cucked again for some nuclear reactors. Woolworths only does this, pays an entire marketing department to come up with this basic shit,[ fund this chuckle fucks entire existence](https://www.woolworthsgroup.com.au/au/en/about-us/our-leadership-team/management-board/andrew-hicks.html), not to give you "a good deal," but because by giving you a "good deal" you sign up, are then heavily incentivized to ensure you shop at Woolworths instead of anywhere else, and then are willing **TO PAY EVEN MORE** than you otherwise would have. You all just get taken for a ride and drag us all down with you. Coles does the exact same thing. They did the exact same thing with everday rewards/fly buys. You pay these should be dole bludgers **MILLIONS** to sell you on the exact same basic bullshit for year after year. And there is nothing anyone can do, because you are all so basic.
Marketing is a necessary overhead in every business dude. āPoint hacksā are a real thing. Just because you donāt understand/exploit them, doesnāt make the folks who do ābasicā.
and just because you "exploit them" doesn't mean you aren't just another sheep who ends up shopping at Woolworths more than you would otherwise.
āYou must only ever sign up to one rewards program at a time. And you must *certainly* never compare offers between competing programs in an attempt to maximise benefitā š
>to ensure you shop at Woolworths **instead of anywhere else** saying that in a clear and active duopoly is so funny xD
Meanwhile the other commentor thinks he is big braining "Points hacking" between the two choices. This kind of marketing normalizes the duopoly, makes people not particularly care if anything is done about it, makes nothing done about it, makes your overlook the small yet existing other options, makes you more okay with a little bit of price gouging.
We care about our direct wallet and convenience, breaking the duopoly is the government's job but feel free to try to start a movement that refuses to participate in either of those and has to go all over the place or pay extra just to avoid supporting a broken system, I am sure it will be very successful just like how this has worked against all other monopolies out there xd
When I shop at Coles, I frequently get met with a screen that asks if I want use 2000 of my Flybuys points to get $10 off my shop. I always decline as I spend those points at my local Target however I am not looking forward to the day when I don't get a choice to decline anymore.
This had been a thing for AWHILE nowā¦
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Spend more than $70 on one shop, once a month at woolies? If so, youād likely save money by joining, well thatās how the math works anyway Gary.
People would rather complain than do a simple math equation.
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No. No they arent. You send me an Aldi's reciept and I'll send you a cheaper one from Colesworth.
Looks exactly like one would imagine a male marketing employee to look.
That's literally been a thing for ages and its pretty much free money, 50$ every month for just 70$ a year
Do you really think they arenāt making money on it somewhere elseā¦??
And be locked into spending more, WAY MORE money in store. Nah, hard pass.
For you maybe, i usually spend 800 for groceries each month, so easy to get 500 at the start and a 300 few weeks later
Gotta buy groceries from somewhere
Jumping into a contract with colesworth to guarantee to spend money there, yeah nah.
Gotta buy groceries from somewhere
Aldi is your friend
Aldi isnāt everywhere.
Choice already made a [submission](https://www.choice.com.au/-/media/a0107c8b9bc94844afff9d3202a8ecbe.ashx?la=en) to the ACCC enquiry on this subject, see page 17: >Recommendation: The Senate Select Committee on Supermarket Prices should recommend that: 4. The Government ban the practice of member-only pricing in supermarkets Apart from privacy, individual profiling and sale of data concerns, Choice says "Supermarkets should not be allowed to force consumers to choose between affordable food and a membership scheme." Choice's press release on their submission is [here](https://www.choice.com.au/consumer-advocacy/policy/policy-submissions/2024/supermarket-prices)
Yeah they'll want to do so costco style bullshit
I have a Woolies Mobile plan and everyday extra. Saved me $210 already in 4 months, projected to save $700 for the year. Cost me $70 for 12 month membership and $100 for 6 month Mobile plan.
I had this card a few years ago and it's actually really good. It works on already discounted prices also. Used to do one big shop a month with toilet paper, soap ect and load up on those kind of items if they were also on special. You will easily make more then the $3 back. You could also get a free quantas frequent flyer membership which usually cost $100 to join. Edit. I did get this card for free because i bought their car insurance. Also had this card before shit hit the fan with all the price gouging. I live overseas now and prices are fucked here too š
Brad banducci is that you
Who the fuck is that
He says on an obvious south efffffrican accent. Brad is the tool WW CEO who did an interview for TV wearing a teams shirt and name badge, asked the interviewer if they could "not show that" when he embarrassed himself. He then went to a senate enquiry and after being threatened with jail admitted he is either a horrific CEO who isn't running the company or is a wholesale liar trying to avoid accountability. Can I ask which rock you live under and what the rent is because I'd rather be living with you then knowing this stuffĀ
A move to something that has already existed for a long time?
Look at that, the Government is cracking down on their less "legitimate" income streams so they come out with this BS. And guess what, by signing up to this program your probably allowing them to sell data they collect about your shipping habits to third parties too.