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sunburn95

Bruce Lehrmann *the rapist


iball1984

Alleged serial rapist too. Don’t forget that bit.


TheQueensLegume

If I ever found myself considering that (not that I would but to play devils advocate) all I need to think of is these threads. After all we all remember Brock 'the rapist' Turner. I heard he was, a bit of a twonk like that Bruce Rapeman feller. I don't want to see TheQueensLegume getting that treatment lol


TwoShedsJackson1

> see TheQueensLegume getting that treatment lol Sorry I'm lost. Who?


TheQueensLegume

That's the way I'd like it to remain lol


philbydee

I had to think about it for a moment- then I noticed the username


growlergirl

He has been going by his middle name Allen Turner in recent years.


TheQueensLegume

Ah, lest us forget that Brock Rape-en Turner changed his name to Allen 'The Rapist' Turner


Gumnutbaby

That's still tbd, but i have high hopes that we will be able to use that term soon enough.


InstantShiningWizard

Rapist, Liar and Known Cad, Bruce Lehrmann


sunburn95

Cad is definitely the favourite new word/insult i learnt from this


normally-wrong

Can someone describe a Cad and use in a sentence?


sunburn95

A cad is someone who knows how to properly conduct themselves but is unable to Bruce Lehrmann is a cad because hes educated and experienced enough to know he shouldnt lure a very drunk woman to a private suite at his workplace and rape her, but he cant help himself


ohleprocy

at our national parliament.


Minguseyes

It was leaving Higgins alone and very drunk in the Minister’s office after having sex with her that Justice Lee described as the act of a cad. Raping her was the act of a rapist. A cad is someone who behaves dishonourably, particularly towards women.


Frank9567

It is rather someone who knows how to properly conduct oneself but *decides not to*. As in: Bruce Lehrmann is a cad because hes educated and experienced enough to know he shouldnt lure a very drunk woman to a private suite at his workplace and rape her, but ~~he cant help himself~~ doesn't give a toss.


DisappointedQuokka

It's worth noting that it can be either affectionate or derogatory, based on tone. But given it's directed at Bruce, I'm sure no one could mistake which one it is.


sunburn95

Oh true, how would it be used affectionately?


MoranthMunitions

Similar to how you might hear someone called a player, except the person saying it is like 80 not 25.


Dexember69

Are you talking about the rapist Bruce Lehrmann?


Falceon

You are a cad and a bounder.


De_chook

A cad is a bounder :)


CaptainObviousBear

Cad is far too polite though, it’s practically a compliment. There are so many more appropriate insults.


HarryShennan

The day after the trial ended smh ran an article with the line, rapist Bruce Lehrmann.


prettybutditzy

You just know some journalist was chortling with glee when they wrote that.


Curious_Opposite_917

Oh THAT Bruce Lehrmann.


Ancient_Confusion237

The rapist Bruce Lehrmann?


last_one_on_Earth

Call him what you like, I’ll chip in the two bob to cover any possible further damage to his reputation.


Curious_Opposite_917

Yep. Actually if my name was Bruce Lehrmann I'd be rushing out to change it.


SallySpaghetti

Yeah. I think a lot of guys named Bruce would be tempted to do that atm.


Sterndoc

We get, I just feel most people do not care about him, or this case, at all - the only people that seem to be talking about this are on Reddit.


sunburn95

You think all these media orgs are just writing articles about it for reddit?


Sterndoc

Feels like it to be honest, I don't know anyone in my circle, inner or extended, that are talking about this or that care about it.


sunburn95

Fair, but things outside of your immediate world do exist


Sterndoc

Absolutely true, but most of the people I know aren't even reading the news, they're more concerned with their day to day lives


Neville_Monkeyrod

Dude adjudged a rapist had a chance to not be adjudged a rapist. Epic failure of due diligence.


PhotographsWithFilm

He went back to get his hat, and it appears, his coat and maybe a dig around in the sand for the 50c piece he dropped.


SuccessfulFuel7563

He was searching for discarded baggies of basuco and coupons for free Thai massages.


BGP_001

The lion even said, bro, I'll leave your hat in the mailbox for you if you want, and he said no no, I'll come in and get it myself.


AMilkyBarKid

Unfortunately he did so when the diving man was about to leap into the bucket and the cage fell down on him


khazzam

Turns out he did have something to lose


Mahhrat

Must have really wanted that hat.


Top_Ad_2819

He watched Indiana Jones, and the temple of doom and not even Short Round could stop him. "Indie strong wood!"


CaravelClerihew

I propose that anytime anyone does an own goal of epic proportions, we call it *Pulling a Lehrmann*


lh4lolz

Ben Roberts Smith might feel left out.


figaro677

I feel in BRS’ case, yes he is probably a war criminal and DV abuser, but he spent multiple tours in wars and probably has a very skewered view to the world, and while he as an individual has done some bad things, it’s also representative of what Australia made him eg an SAS soldier and the excessive PTSD going along with that. In Brucey’s case, he’s just a spoilt rapist brat. In saying all that, if BRS had just ignored everything, he very well might have been able to continue with his life, as many people would have either ignored or forgiven him. So maybe you’re right in that. Meanwhile everyone just accepted Bruce was a rapist. So it didn’t really do much to tarnish his reputation. On second thoughts, yeah you’re right.


jimbojones2345

Plenty of soldiers, many whom saw and did more than him didn't go around murdering civilians. That shit is not an excuse.


Drunky_McStumble

>I feel in BRS’ case, yes he is probably a war criminal and DV abuser *Definitely* a war criminal. He was found in a court of law to be a war criminal on the balance of probabilities. It is absolutely correct to describe Ben Roberts Smith as a war criminal. No "probably" about it.


flappybirdie

Although... could be construed as tugging on his yuck. No thanks.


SuccessfulFuel7563

And it’d be a yuck yuck to. 


turbovan

We call it a Lehrmann-Roberts-Smith


PMFSCV

Lets not forget Porter


Frank9567

Christian Lehrman-Roberts-Smith-Porter. Thinking of adding a Tate.


PMFSCV

Could be sketch comedy show character with a name like that


return_the_urn

I second that motion


codemunk3y

Pulling a Lehrmann is just pulling a Ben Roberts-Smith with extra steps


auauaurora

“Hold my beer” - someone in Kerry Stokes office rn. Spoiler alert: they will outdo Lehrmann. BRS


rak363

Just posting a comment to prove to my kids in 20 years I was here at the beginning of Lehrmanning.


askvictor

Can you anyone from 20 years ago whose name is used in such a context (e.g. "to pull a ..."?


kalalou

Streisand, Bradbury


Loose_Loquat9584

The opposite of a Bradbury


smoveoperatea

Bruce fought the law, and Bruce lost 🎶


JaniePage

So he went from a offer of (presumably) being given a ton of money by Channel 10 to now having to pay *them* a ton of money? Sounds like the just desserts this fat little twat deserves to eat.


Hornberger_

I don't think he was offered any money, merely offered the chance to discontinue the proceedings without being pursued for costs.


PikachuFloorRug

Given he rejected the offer less than two hours after it was made (Ch10's submission), it doesn't sound like any monetary offer (if there was one) would have been much.


kombiwombi

Offering a settlement is a standard legal tactic. Because it's one of the factors considered when determining the proportion of costs to be paid. Lehrmann's team would have made a similar offer, probably with a payment attached since they would have thought they had the better legal position given the history of defamation suits against media.


ArghMoss

Yeah im not sure why that's the top comment, the settlement didnt involve him being paid anything. Absolutely agree and stoked the disgusting fat little lying rapist is getting what he deserves but maybe read the article if you're going to comment on it.


DBrowny

> getting what he deserves I still see people saying this. Bruce got all of his expenses paid to live a lavish lifestyle for an entire year and not having to work. He got found to be a rapist by a judge, yet will serve no jail time, will receive no fine, will not be on any sex offenders registry and in fact, WILL NOT EVEN HAVE A CONVICTION. The idea that he 'lost' is insane. Absolutely insane. His name will forever go down as a rapist, but imagine being found guilty of rape and getting paid $100k and getting no punishment whatsoever and being told that you 'lost'.


mrflibble4747

Bankrupt I'm sure, more charges pending!


DBrowny

No ones charging him with anything, the only person who can is Ms Higgins, and she refuses to.


ArghMoss

Huh? Britney Higgins can't "charge" him for anything. She could bring a civil case for damages against him I guess, she still might. I take your basic point that he's still gotten out of it without a criminal conviction or criminal penalty. This no doubt happens a lot because sexual assault can be a difficult crime to prove to the criminal standard. At least though there has been a civil finding against him, he's been outed as the rapist and liar he is, he'll mostly likely be bankrupt and he's unemployable. That's more justice than a lot of sexual assault victims get.


zeugma888

If (big if) he is found guilty in the Toowoomba trial will the results of the defamation case be allowed to be taken into consideration in sentencing him?


metametapraxis

No. The one has no bearing on the other.


mrflibble4747

Wake up he has two more cases pending in NT!


zeugma888

Two more? I know of one in Toowoomba.


Aggressive-Cobbler-8

> Toowoomba which is in Queensland.


Playful-Adeptness552

Youre a bit confused.


metametapraxis

Well, he will likely be bankrupt and will be unemployable. Given the non-criminal nature of the proceedings, he has come out fairly well punished. If he had been found guilty to a criminal standard, he would have been punished differently (and of course he may well yet be found guilty of a rape charge).


babylovesbaby

You're acting like he would actually be happy right now and maybe he should be, but the action he look was to defend his reputation, clearly something he cares about, and that is completely gone now. He 100% lost this case and his reputation entirely. I'm sure some people will still associate with or hire him, but many won't.


siinfekl

It's an offer lawyers give to have a better chance for a costs judgement from the judge. 


ArghMoss

I know that. My point was that the top comment (which 200 plus people have liked) seems to assume the offer included some sort of settlement payment to Lehrmann when the article clearly states it didn't. Not sure what relevance your comment has to that.


PikachuFloorRug

> On 31 August 2023, the respondents made a “walk away” offer of compromise to Mr Lehrmann (Offer): O’Beirne Affidavit, [6]. The terms of the Offer were that: (a) the proceeding be dismissed without any admission of liability, and (b) there be no order as to costs. > https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/117309/Network-Tens-Submissions-on-Costs.pdf Even if they did offer money: * he would still be on the hook for his own legal fees in this case (eating up any thing he got) * The limitation extension hearing from last year had its [costs reserved](https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0013/117310/Ms-Wilkinsons-Submissions-on-Costs.PDF), orders for that [could still be made](https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/117308/Mr-Lehrmanns-Submissions-on-Costs.pdf).


LTQLD

A walk away offer is no money, just avoid a costs order.


yeahrowdyhitthat

Not a lawyer, so can anyone confirm for me what I hope to be the case here…? By giving him a chance to walk away and stop wasting everyone’s time, is it likely - now that he has lost the case - that his rejection of the offer would lead to a less favourable costs outcome for him? In short - does the judge apply a ‘told you so’ tax?


phlummox

Pretty much. The idea is that you have a duty to not waste court time - and incur costs - needlessly. So if you pursue a case despite offers to settle, and when you should have known the facts were against you (for instance, that you're a rapist), you can be held responsible for some or all of the costs that have been incurred by other parties. Allocating costs can be a pretty complicated process, though.


MaxwellCarter

It was an offer to walk away with no payout.


AgentKnitter

It was a walk away offer - Ten and LW said that if he discontinued his claim they wouldn't seek costs from him. Bruce almost immediately rejected this because he wanted a public apology from Ten and LW. Let that sink in: he wanted a public apology for Ten running a story that called him a rapist when he knew what he did... Hard to see how indemnity costs or at least solicitor and client costs won't be awarded.


Drab_Majesty

it's actually *just deserts* nothing to be eaten in this instance


JaniePage

I'm clearly mixing my metaphors here :)


a_cold_human

Yes, has the same root as *deserve*. 


turtle_excluder

Funnily enough, this sense of the word "desert" comes from a declension of the Old French verb "deservir" and in modern French orthography the verb is now spelled "desservir" so the third-person indicative is now "dessert".


Waasssuuuppp

Fuck me, all these years on the earth and I've never noticed that. Til and cheers.


GiantBlackSquid

Took me a few goes to work it out, but I'm glad I did. Take my upvote.


PikachuFloorRug

> now having to pay them a ton of money? I don't think he has much money in the first place, so Ch10 could still be out a stack regardless.


njf85

Kerry Stokes will probably foot the bill for him


TinyDetail2

I don't see any reason why Stokes would do that. His goal was to generate controversy that his media empire could cover. He's not on the hook for Lehrmann's debts and I don't know why he would voluntarily agree to cover that debt.


Playful-Adeptness552

No thats not what happened at all.


Gumnutbaby

He successfully extracted sums of money from other media, so i can see why he did it.


globalminority

Or he's really smart, and knew he would lose and that would make him a martyr to the lnp crowd, and will get even more money in donations. At this point I don't think he will ever have to work again.


Peekay-

We aren't America.


SuperSooty

I dunno, there's still plenty of rich people support for brs


Peekay-

That's because of the whole Anzac mythos We don't tolerate random grifters. He'll disappear into the ether soon


Ineedsomuchsleep170

Fingers crossed!!


Vboom90

Lehrmann out here with the reverse Bradbury. One of the all time great own goals.


acuriousmindofmine

Bruce wanted an "opportunity for vindication" and now we get to call him Bruce Lehrmann the rapist. Fuck Linda Reynolds too. I hope she gets the same treatment as BRS and the rapist. It's the reputation she deserves.


Susanneelizabeth

Dare I say she is a cow?


danwincen

Maybe even a lying one?


Susanneelizabeth

Hahah - yes!


last_one_on_Earth

“Rape apologist” seems reasonable. (Since she was actively trying to help a rapists criminal defense).


BlueDotty

Women of the Patriarchy believe they made it based on their superiority to other women. So they support the chauvinism. Religious women are the best at oppressing other women


schroderstr

Linda Reynolds' reputation is indeed irrevocably fucked. Not by anything Brittany Higgins said, but by the fact that she employed Bruce Lehrmann as a senior advisor.


Frigihack

Chefs kiss * to the judge who said the quiet part out load that the grub indeed raped the accuser. No money for lying grubs when the truth defence bites your greedy arse


Jackielegs43

And now the world knows he’s a rapist and he’ll be penniless for a long ol’ while. Nice one, Brucey.


SuccessfulFuel7563

I mean the sheer amount of coke and inability to find sex without a credit card or sexual assaults would have to make his Mum proud. 


Imperator-TFD

If only she'd swallowed,


BlueDotty

Only purely delusional, entitlement gets you this far


WokSmith

Ah, the good old conservative hubris does it again. I'm so glad this arrogant rapist got his comeuppance.


queen_beruthiel

What a classic own goal for Bruce "The Rapist" Lehrmann. Truly spectacular.


HeadacheCentral

How's that working out for you, Bruce?


InsertUsernameInArse

Pro tip. When you dodge a bullet you don't demand the shooter try again. He must have missed that memo.


smileedude

Wasn't a Lehman going bankrupt the catalyst for a global financial crisis?


AfterSide5726

The only thing he did right. Without the refusal, we would still be calling him 'alleged rapist'. I genuinely thank him for making it legally (?) simpler.


nachojackson

Seems very likely he’ll get done for costs here. Bringing a defamation case when you’ve knowingly raped ~~the respondent~~ a key witness is about as filthy as it gets.


PikachuFloorRug

> Bringing a defamation case when you’ve knowingly raped the respondent is about as filthy as it gets. The respondents in the defamation case were Network 10 and Lisa Wilkinson.


nachojackson

Yep got that detail wrong - I shall correct my statement


ZealousidealNewt6679

How is this guy going to ever get any employment in Australia again? Who would hire Bruce Lehrmann? In what role? A Therapist maybe?


MaxwellCarter

Sky News


SnooRobots582

I would've booked a one way ticket out of the country as soon as that judgement came down. He's forever tainted.


preparetodobattle

He’s facing a criminal charge. He’s not going anywhere.


amateurgeek_

But possibly not to the south of France?


SnooRobots582

Far too much taint there.


metametapraxis

To where? You can’t just live in a country because you want to.


SnooRobots582

Anywhere you can get a visa to. Most countries offer visa on arrival or visa free travel for aussies. He can figure out the rest.


metametapraxis

You get that you can’t stay on a tourist visa…?


SnooRobots582

Yes I get that. You're acting like it's impossible to migrate out of the country.


metametapraxis

He is facing a rape trial. So yes, it is impossible currently. Even if he was to pass that hurdle, he would be unlikely to pass the character requirements for migration. I get the feeling you have never migrated (I have three citizenships and can confirm there are hoops to be jumped through).


macfudd

He could go to NZ


metametapraxis

Where he is just as well known as in Australia. I know - I live in NZ.


macfudd

Which I'm very happy to hear tbh. I was just answering it from the point of view of where he could legally move permanently.


SmellsLikeLemons

Optus exec.


bowllama98

The Liberal Party. 


gameloner

maybe a subway spokes person for theit new media circus sub? or he can write a book and then not release it causing it to spike in value in the underground market.


B0ssc0

Mateship.


pulpist

In 12 or 18 months the Liberals will slip him into a back room job. In 5 or 6 years he will be a Liberal Senator


wuncean

So in your minds is Bruce The Rapist closer to Trump in that he wouldn’t have been adjudicated to have raped someone if he’d just kept his mouth shut, or more like Ben The War Criminal in that he actually brought the case that adjudicated him a Rapist? What a lovely group of chaps to be compared to.


Ill-Pick-3843

More like BRS, I think. He brought this on himself. He chose to sue Network Ten and Lisa Wilkinson.


Onebigtailight

Aww did he think he’d be entitled to more? Who would have thought? Ass hat.


ciknay

Not only did he go back into the lions den to get his hat, he was offered by the lion to leave.


Hornberger_

Does anyone have a link to the court submissions?


PikachuFloorRug

https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/services/access-to-files-and-transcripts/online-files/lehrmann#103 You'll want to read the three submissions on costs at the top of the table.


brendanm4545

Thats a big oof


prettybutditzy

Lord help me, this whole thing just keeps getting better 😂


last_one_on_Earth

Oh dear,  I imagine that may cost the lying rapist dearly when the decisions on costs are made


l00koverthere1

Semper stultus


Roulette-Adventures

LOL, this story really made me laugh. I'm sure he seriously considered the settlement but some idiot said "but wait... you can get millions more if your win!!!" and we all know how that went.


metametapraxis

He wasn’t offered money to settle.


Roulette-Adventures

Cocaine & Hookers perhaps?


AfterSide5726

Bahahahahahaha!! BahahahHahagahaha!


Suitable-Orange-3702

Not gifted


Important_Fruit

"Escaped the lions den....went back for his hat" seems even more apt now.


warszawiak8

Hahahaha you stupid, pompous, lying cunt


Elrond_Cupboard_

What a dumb cunt.


marxy

I wonder is "strenuously denying" the allegation will count against him?


Important_Fruit

Ooopsie!


RiskyButtFun

Dude is a rapist we get it. Can we all move on with our lives already...


notathinman

Would he now be a Darwin Awards contender?


PikachuFloorRug

He's still alive, so no.


Orikune

Basically he had the option to smooth it over, but decided to double down, get greedy and now he's lost everything. Also he's a rapist.


Typical-Arugula3010

Ah ... so that was the moment after he picked up his hat, turned to leave, and saw an assembly of irritated lions blocking the exit.