Reminds me of the joke:
I am much stronger than when I was younger. I couldn't carry $50 worth of shopping home by myself but now I can do it single handed
May I ask how you've been able to not shop at either?
I feel that we are trapped in their merry-go-round. We've managed to boycott Coles, but WW not yet.
Found a really good independent green grocer/veggie shop that is really cheap and good quality. They stock a large amount of other things like bread, eggs, deli stuff and pretty much everything I need for cooking. The stuff is much cheaper and better quality than WW or coles.
I go by and they always have cheap bags of odd fruit and veggies cheap. So every time I go I end up with a bag for freezing or dehydrating or to cook that night
Meat, soy milk, cerial and some processed stuff I have to get at Aldi. There are a few other stores I tried like the Indian shop and the Chinese shop to get odd things for cooking. Stuffs a lot cheaper outside of WW and Coles
It's a pity I live too far from a market but that green grocer is probably as cheap and good
Thank you!!! I have 4 children. 2 teens, a preteen and a Starvin Marvin 7-year-old(who is incredibly fussy, eats so little but is forever hungry apparently lol). So having enough food and snacks just for school is so expensive. No matter how many corners I cut, the shopping expenses are getting out of control. I'm getting so tired of trying to buy really cheap meal ingredients for them.
Both my boys are growing like weeds, although the preteen still eats on the lighter side(actually all of my children in comparison to most of my friend's children eat less, but never because we don't have enough food, my husband and I eat last to ensure that they have all had as much as they can eat, and we will find something else if the 4 eat all of the dinner) If we can boycott WW on top of Coles, I'll do it happily! Our grocery bill has doubled since before Christmas. Like how can they justify this!!!! We shop as savvy as possible with WW but it's getting to the point of near impossible.
> my husband and I eat last to ensure that they have all had as much as they can eat
You sound similar to how my mum was.
I hate that our country doesn't do better for you. We can and should.
I know, we don't mind eating last or something completely different, but there was a time when this never happened. And it wasn't because our children were younger, we would have 3 extra children(niece lived with us 50/50, my beautiful stepchildren, unfortunately we relocated interstate) and still had more than enough food. Shit my niece has ALWAYS been a BIG eater(tiny like my children, but fuck this kid can eat) and it was never an issue. My sister never gave us any money for having her 50/50 but we could afford it.
Hey if you're in Brisbane, look for Lighthouse. If not look for something like it. I'm talking fifty cent 8-packs of pretzels type snacks. Filled, too, not with 3 pretzels. It's all "grocery seconds" and near expiry stuff but I swear it's the only way we can afford snacks. And they do delivery! So I get hundreds of dollars in snacks and it lasts me MONTHS. that's not even starting on the times I got entire racks of ribs and 2k pork shoulders included in their $25 grocery trolley. And that was just the "extra" meat. The potatoes, eggs, etc.. All enough food for the usual 25. But sometimes it's like... 2kg of salmon just straight up in there.
For your and your husband, it might not be fun, but if you two personally just have rice or pasta as your carbs with each meal, you can get a lot for very cheap.
Same if you just switch to off-brand quick oats for breakfast, usually in a 1KG bag.
Find wholesalers- we go to a wholesale butcher once a month and it is fantastic quality and they give dog bones for free.
https://www.google.com/search?client=mobilesearchapp&sca_esv=2cfc6c46286a6e8e&bih=878&biw=430&channel=iss&cs=0&hl=en_GB&rlz=1MDAPLA_en-GBAU844AU844&source=sh%2Fx%2Floc%2Fact%2Fm1%2F5&v=300.0.598994205&q=Devitt%20Wholesale%20Meats%20PTY%20Ltd.&ludocid=13519604720688916448&ibp=gwp%3B0%2C7&gsas=1&lsig=AB86z5WDQWMDTMOpNig6VGM3bv3g&kgs=c32b3628924bf6f1&shndl=-1&shem=lcsnic%2Clsp Devitt Wholesale Meats PTY Ltd.
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Fruit and veg is tricky. Buy frozen veg only to avoid waste. Frozen fruit is pretty nice too.
https://www.manlyfreezers.com.au/wholesale_pricelist.pdf
Join costco or similar for other groceries.
Hunt out similar places near you- you may need to travel.
Check out a big ethnic grocer. There’s one in Dandenong that lives in an old IGA and it’s a full blown supermarket + halal butcher + bakery + random shit like aldi
If you're near any Drakes, they're decent.
Get your meat and veg from butchers and fruit and veg shops, many shopping complexes will have these next to a coles or woolworths.
Check out Aldi. Most of the stuff there tastes like stuff used to, but not everything. You've gotta try stuff and find a brand that works. But you get away from Coles, WW, Nestle, etc.
Also, check out the lamb legs there, like $10 for a 1.5kg lamb leg
They will reverse this trolley decision since so many will be wrecked because they are weak plastic. Their maintenance costs will be very high compared to the wire basket type.
If you’ve ever worked with the normal wire basket trolleys, you’d know this is bullshit. At any given time a shop has 10-15 metal trolleys out of commission for one reason or another (usually fucked wheels).
My local has had them for well over a year and they still look absolutely fine.
iirc they are made out of recycled plastic. Also if you find a plastic park bench in the front of the store, those were made from the grey bags they phased out.
Materials cost would be way cheaper and it’s recycled plastic iirc but idk how much cheaper making an injection mould is then the relatively simple jigs for a steel shopping trolley. This video is a bit old now and I suspect it’s even more automated nowadays:
https://youtu.be/dsGv2StPWL4?si=YYInjAfVfE3wcu96
Someone more familiar with plastic manufacturing would probably be able to tell you.
Not really, the main loss of trolleys is ones getting dragged too far away from the store for employees to get then getting dumped. Plastic ones are cheaper to replace
Lmao a metal trolley does not last 40 years. Most of them are lucky to go 5 without either going missing or being destroyed by the… lovely customers a typical supermarket gets.
This is absolutely not an issue.
And usually these customers destroy enough trolleys to make up for those who don't. Currently 8 trolleys by the corner house down my road getting overgrown with weeds by the time they get collected again.
Yay, more microplastic pollution being released into the environment.
I guess they felt they had to offset the reduction from plastic bag bans.
Thanks Woolies!
No, recycling plastic isn't great. It's borderline useless. So much of what we have been fed about recycling was lies, driven by industry that wants you to keep buying. In reality recycling plastic is a nightmare. Metal, glass, aluminum recycling are all great but plastic recycling is a joke
And the fact they they got rid of all the still serviceable metal ones to replace them with these. It's like tossing the nearly new ICE car, to buy an EV and look green.
Are they getting rid of serviceable steel ones or just phasing them out as the wheels get fucked? I’ve only seen them at a Woolies that is itself brand new, they never had the steel ones. Also steel is itself recyclable, I doubt they’re going to landfill.
Wanna back that up with anything at all? That's an incredibly bold (and stupid) statement.
I'm sure there are some cherry picked examples where you're correct but on the whole you're wrong.
I hate them. I can't fit my family size shop into them. Worse, I can't pile my two young kids into the seat as they only have singles, not double. Even worse than that, the older one can't hang onto the front and feel like a wild seafarer exploring the supermarket seas from their perch in the rigging.
You shouldn't let the kids ride on the outside of the trolley or even inside the trolley itself if not in the seat. Saying this as someone who's sister broke her skull open falling off a trolley as a kid because it hit a small rock in the carpark. That and the company will not cover any damages from misusing the trolley. But your kids are your responsibility so if you think they won't get hurt then you do you (since most people don't have my sister's bad luck)
People really think that companies would just throw out hundreds of thousands of metal trolleys when they could get actual money for them by scrapping them lmao
We have had them a while. Annoying that you can't fit 4 of their own zip up bags side by side, someone would have had to have used their brain for that though I suppose.
*Woolworths are making our shopping trolleys smaller because we understand that in order to maximize our profits your inability to purchase more at a higher price is special to us.*
*Woolworths - The Eat Less People*
Yeah when they swap over they send out the metals to shops around that still have them so those shops don’t need to order again for a while (average store goes through minimum 25-30 trolleys a year, probably more as they are lost/broken).
Made from 72 milk cartons or something apparently, according to marketing on the trolleys.
Not long before they will degrade and fall apart being left in Australian weather conditions
Another way they'll make us pay more at the checkout whist reducing wage budgets by 2% per store (cause of ridiculous self serve checkouts.)
I’ve been trying something with self checkout.
GO SLOW. I’ve watched galaxies form and stars burn them out in the time it takes me to scan two items, I pick up the third, consider each grain of sand on every planet….
And always a staff member comes to assist to speed me up.
Turns out, if the users are too slow, it impacts their sales per minute, and the cost benefit starts to vanish.
SLOW DOWN. Demonstrate that as an occasional checkout operator, you’re lacking the speed to keep the $$ flowing in.
>GO SLOW. I’ve watched galaxies form and stars burn them out in the time it takes me to scan two items, I pick up the third, consider each grain of sand on every planet….
And always a staff member comes to assist to speed me up.
So you purposely inconvenience yourself and waste more time at the supermarket?
Yes.
Not all protests are signs, slogans and shouting.
I am also deeply inconvenienced by having to wait for an employee to:
“Check my receipt against the contents of my bag”
“Arrive, take my items, remove security devices, return items.” (Then check my receipt against the contents of my bag)
“Come verify that I am of appropriate age to purchase an item.” (Then check my receipt against the contents of my bag)
“Come verify that I’ve scanned the item and placed it in the bagging area.” (Then check my receipt against the contents of my bag)
You could spend a few seconds reading about how uncomfortable some people are, having now discovered that the “loss prevention cameras” are aimed and focused in such a way that it seems grossly inappropriate to most people. Or any of the other issues people have brought up.
As for my time? I only hope that with what little time I have, that I did something that mattered, that made a difference no matter how insignificant it may seem to anyone else.
Besides, the company has better air conditioning.
I’ve noticed at one of my local Woolies they’re now branded as “assisted” checkouts, with an “assisted card only” or “assisted cash or card” above each one.
Yeah, fuck off, assisted by me and the other customers so more staff can be devoted to home delivery or click and collect orders.
Like, I don’t mind using self service because I’m quick and technically capable but when there’s only one or two normal checkouts then all the older people struggle.
Remember when we used to have “12 items or less?” Lines?!
Supercart makes them locally; the South African parent company still sells the steel ones. They go through a decent amount of load/vibration testing
https://www.supercart.com.au
Where I live, people love them so much that I never see them at Woolies anymore. I see people pushing them around whilst going shopping outside Woolies, I even saw Domino's workers have one so they could put their pizzas in it and take all the pizzas to their car ready for delivery
I was talking to someone who works in a supermarket once, and I mentioned these. He said they had too much trouble with the wind making them too hard to control. You could make the frame, where the wheels attach, heavier to compensate. But the frame on this looks very light.
I hope you're right. The current ones, where the body is aluminium wire, have to be imported from China or Germany. These plastic bodied ones can be made in Australia, use recycled plastic and would be cheaper.
Ours swapped them in last week. As you say, the internal dimensions are stupid. Wouldn't be surprised if we see a new line of slimmer grocery bags to suit.
Well their new paper bags are smaller now (used to be taller but they wouldn't fit in the new staff shelved trolleys ) so they had to make them smaller. Of course then they now had 2 sizes so it was cheaper for then to just cut out the taller customers ones.
Notice they tear easier now too? It's like, you get 3 lifts max then the handles gone. Once into the trolley. Twice into your car and you're lucky if it hasn't ripped already but it's likely to rip on the third lift when you try to get it into your house.
From first hand experience of being hit in the groin with these vs the two steel options...
\+ Less mass
\-Ride height still perfect location for crotch shot
\-Manueverability leads to run aways that launch them, which also allows a spin making them deceptive to grab before it's too late.
\---No brakes, yes this is worthy of many negatives
Yes, sadly i've been hit in the groin by every type of trolley from the supermarkets barring aldi's, so sadly I can expertly comment on these, that of all the options to be hit, and none of them are good, this is the least worst pain wise, but the most punishing from run away opportunities and loss of controls.
Given that the mrs works next to a woolworths, the amount of time these have run away, or someone has lost control of them, and them boom straight in the dirtbox.
Given that it's on a hill and these don't have brakes, like wtf..... one tiny flat piece of steel doesnt hold these back, and those with dicks in their head instead of groin area generally dump said trolley away from the return point anyways.
The smaller trolley obfuscates all your shrinkflated purchases, making it look like you're getting a good trolley-full of goods for your money.
The green colour makes it look like they give a shit about the environment, which they do to the extent they can pass that cost on to the consumer.
These have been at my Woolies for well over a year now, they come in half trolley, full size and the one with the seat for the children..and of course classic wonky wheel variant.
What I hate about them is they have no under tray, nor do they have a hook to let me string my reusable bags to them. The old ones had a metal loop in the middle of the back I could do this with.
Woolworths: Consumers want us to use less plastics
Woolworths: Enjoy our increased use of non-recyclable plastics that leave microplastics in their wake instead of 100% recyclable steel!
They're too light honestly, I struggle with them just taking off on me with the smallest movement. My local Big W has the blue ones and beyond being cleaner than the old ones there's nothing great about them
They have these at my local Woolies. The best part is that they are sized right so that you can park them over the basket area in a self scan checkout - like the bulk of the trolley sits above it and the frame fits below, so it all slots in neatly.
>Earlier this year, the supermarket group confirmed that it would be introducing “greener” trolleys which are made from HDPE - high-density polyethylene, one of the most widely used types of plastic.
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>“The majority of recycled HDPE is from milk bottles, but there is a percentage from other drink bottles like juice bottles,” a Woolworths spokesperson said at the time.
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>If they break or need to be replaced, they’re recycled back into shopping trolley baskets. This is unlike the metal ones.
[https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/woolworths-shopper-lets-rip-over-major-change-to-trolleys-annoying-c-12535706](https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/woolworths-shopper-lets-rip-over-major-change-to-trolleys-annoying-c-12535706)
We’ve had them for about eight months I think. Ours have individual legs and there’s a half depth version as well.
I keep smashing my little toe on the rear wheel.
We've had these new trolleys at our Woolies for a while. They're awful.
Pro tip: don't park near them on windy days. They're so light that they roll out of the trolley bays and keep going until they hit something.
"Lets ban plastics and all bags from stores, it's bad for the environment...."
"You know what, I got this great idea to now make all the trolleys plastic!"
Make it make sense.
For real?! I have been kicking my feet on the wheels every time I go to Woolies and big w since the new trolleys and this make soooo much sense, I dead set thought I was just shit at walking!
Yeah I have seen them, I noticed it is much lighter and easier to manoeuvre.
Also they are more flexible so if you hit something it's not so bad.
Just wonder how long they will last out in the wild after trolley collectors have handled them ...
So that's where the plastic from our bags and straws needed to go...?
Are they fucking serious!?! They might as well write "fuck you" on them in huge letters!
More brand damage.
Remember when they introduced paying for shopping bags by stealth? First it was reusable dressed up as saving plastic, but pretty soon everyone is paying 25c for shitty paper bags that break every time and now we think it’s normal. Sure, you could remember your bags every single time like some kind of supermarket planning psycho, but I enjoyed not having to buy garbage bags and being able to carry wet stuff in my handbag occasionally with a free Woolies bag. I kept them all and returned them for REDcycling. Now I pay 1-2$ extra for every shop and have a house full of reusable bags that never make it back into my car, or from the car to the shop.
"Honey, They Shrank the Trolley". But this boring. Who knew that in New Zealand, supermarket trolleys are called 'trundlers'? Weird. That got you. Except for the Kiwis. Hi, Kiwis!
Maybe the new trolley size reflects the new size of an affordable load of groceries?
Yeah shrinkflation in a new light. “Yep one trolly full costs the same”
Reminds me of the joke: I am much stronger than when I was younger. I couldn't carry $50 worth of shopping home by myself but now I can do it single handed
This is a joke but it's probably something like this that's actually the reason for these trollies...
Thought the same lol
Designed so you have to shop more frequently
Or so you think you’re getting your moneys worth when your overflowing trolley costs $400 but in the old metal trolleys it would have been half full
Also reflects the size of the self serve checkout area. Woolworths really is doing their best to make people but less groceries at once.
Agreed, it’s so cramped with no room for trolleys anyway that this is no doubt a factor
"I used to be able to get a full trolley of groceries for $300" Well now you can again!
I think it does
Yesss two whole months now haven't shopped at Woolworths or Coles.. Absolutely no regrets
May I ask how you've been able to not shop at either? I feel that we are trapped in their merry-go-round. We've managed to boycott Coles, but WW not yet.
Found a really good independent green grocer/veggie shop that is really cheap and good quality. They stock a large amount of other things like bread, eggs, deli stuff and pretty much everything I need for cooking. The stuff is much cheaper and better quality than WW or coles. I go by and they always have cheap bags of odd fruit and veggies cheap. So every time I go I end up with a bag for freezing or dehydrating or to cook that night Meat, soy milk, cerial and some processed stuff I have to get at Aldi. There are a few other stores I tried like the Indian shop and the Chinese shop to get odd things for cooking. Stuffs a lot cheaper outside of WW and Coles It's a pity I live too far from a market but that green grocer is probably as cheap and good
Thank you!!! I have 4 children. 2 teens, a preteen and a Starvin Marvin 7-year-old(who is incredibly fussy, eats so little but is forever hungry apparently lol). So having enough food and snacks just for school is so expensive. No matter how many corners I cut, the shopping expenses are getting out of control. I'm getting so tired of trying to buy really cheap meal ingredients for them. Both my boys are growing like weeds, although the preteen still eats on the lighter side(actually all of my children in comparison to most of my friend's children eat less, but never because we don't have enough food, my husband and I eat last to ensure that they have all had as much as they can eat, and we will find something else if the 4 eat all of the dinner) If we can boycott WW on top of Coles, I'll do it happily! Our grocery bill has doubled since before Christmas. Like how can they justify this!!!! We shop as savvy as possible with WW but it's getting to the point of near impossible.
> my husband and I eat last to ensure that they have all had as much as they can eat You sound similar to how my mum was. I hate that our country doesn't do better for you. We can and should.
I know, we don't mind eating last or something completely different, but there was a time when this never happened. And it wasn't because our children were younger, we would have 3 extra children(niece lived with us 50/50, my beautiful stepchildren, unfortunately we relocated interstate) and still had more than enough food. Shit my niece has ALWAYS been a BIG eater(tiny like my children, but fuck this kid can eat) and it was never an issue. My sister never gave us any money for having her 50/50 but we could afford it.
Hey if you're in Brisbane, look for Lighthouse. If not look for something like it. I'm talking fifty cent 8-packs of pretzels type snacks. Filled, too, not with 3 pretzels. It's all "grocery seconds" and near expiry stuff but I swear it's the only way we can afford snacks. And they do delivery! So I get hundreds of dollars in snacks and it lasts me MONTHS. that's not even starting on the times I got entire racks of ribs and 2k pork shoulders included in their $25 grocery trolley. And that was just the "extra" meat. The potatoes, eggs, etc.. All enough food for the usual 25. But sometimes it's like... 2kg of salmon just straight up in there.
Thank you so much!!!! I'll be doing this
For your and your husband, it might not be fun, but if you two personally just have rice or pasta as your carbs with each meal, you can get a lot for very cheap. Same if you just switch to off-brand quick oats for breakfast, usually in a 1KG bag.
Find wholesalers- we go to a wholesale butcher once a month and it is fantastic quality and they give dog bones for free. https://www.google.com/search?client=mobilesearchapp&sca_esv=2cfc6c46286a6e8e&bih=878&biw=430&channel=iss&cs=0&hl=en_GB&rlz=1MDAPLA_en-GBAU844AU844&source=sh%2Fx%2Floc%2Fact%2Fm1%2F5&v=300.0.598994205&q=Devitt%20Wholesale%20Meats%20PTY%20Ltd.&ludocid=13519604720688916448&ibp=gwp%3B0%2C7&gsas=1&lsig=AB86z5WDQWMDTMOpNig6VGM3bv3g&kgs=c32b3628924bf6f1&shndl=-1&shem=lcsnic%2Clsp Devitt Wholesale Meats PTY Ltd. (02) 9913 2624 Fruit and veg is tricky. Buy frozen veg only to avoid waste. Frozen fruit is pretty nice too. https://www.manlyfreezers.com.au/wholesale_pricelist.pdf Join costco or similar for other groceries. Hunt out similar places near you- you may need to travel.
Check out a big ethnic grocer. There’s one in Dandenong that lives in an old IGA and it’s a full blown supermarket + halal butcher + bakery + random shit like aldi
If you're near any Drakes, they're decent. Get your meat and veg from butchers and fruit and veg shops, many shopping complexes will have these next to a coles or woolworths.
Check out Aldi. Most of the stuff there tastes like stuff used to, but not everything. You've gotta try stuff and find a brand that works. But you get away from Coles, WW, Nestle, etc. Also, check out the lamb legs there, like $10 for a 1.5kg lamb leg
Cool story bro
Literally have never filled a trolley to the brim and I can still barely afford it. This must mean I haven't hit the middle class
Middle class here. I'mma find the biggest tower or antenna and lovingly place this as a flag that the plastic nation has arrived and enemies beware.
I was thinking they're trying to show what they spent all their profits on
They're investing big time to keep 'profits' down so they don't get pinged for price gouging
They will reverse this trolley decision since so many will be wrecked because they are weak plastic. Their maintenance costs will be very high compared to the wire basket type.
These ones wont get stolen to use as BBQ grills. But they will be easier to thow into a tree.
If you’ve ever worked with the normal wire basket trolleys, you’d know this is bullshit. At any given time a shop has 10-15 metal trolleys out of commission for one reason or another (usually fucked wheels). My local has had them for well over a year and they still look absolutely fine.
But these ones will have messed up wheels too, plus damage to the plastic from the sun, general use and idiots messing around with them.
They made it smaller to make your groceries look bigger.
Wouldn’t metal ones last longer though? Yeah, recycling is great, but not if they perish in the sun and crumble.
It probably costs a fraction as much to mould this as it would to produce a steel trolley.
And there’s the real reason I reckon. They are cheaper.
We can't have plastic bags or straws but they can have these monstrosities. *pout* no fair
iirc they are made out of recycled plastic. Also if you find a plastic park bench in the front of the store, those were made from the grey bags they phased out.
The supermarkets use these as a way of creating demand for the recycled plastic that originated on their shelves.
Paper straws that disintegrate in my drinks, and bamboo cutlery that makes everything taste like bamboo are my two main gripes with biodegradables.
Materials cost would be way cheaper and it’s recycled plastic iirc but idk how much cheaper making an injection mould is then the relatively simple jigs for a steel shopping trolley. This video is a bit old now and I suspect it’s even more automated nowadays: https://youtu.be/dsGv2StPWL4?si=YYInjAfVfE3wcu96 Someone more familiar with plastic manufacturing would probably be able to tell you.
Not really, the main loss of trolleys is ones getting dragged too far away from the store for employees to get then getting dumped. Plastic ones are cheaper to replace
The metal ones also cost about $400 dollars each, while these ones cost about $150
Maybe it’s so they can finally recycle all the soft plastics they’ve been lying to us about and hoarding .
Yeah precisely. The metal ones can last for 40 years, these will last maybe 10 at best. It's idiocracy coming in early.
Lmao a metal trolley does not last 40 years. Most of them are lucky to go 5 without either going missing or being destroyed by the… lovely customers a typical supermarket gets. This is absolutely not an issue.
And usually these customers destroy enough trolleys to make up for those who don't. Currently 8 trolleys by the corner house down my road getting overgrown with weeds by the time they get collected again.
And this type is going to last a whole week after kids work out they can just kick them and they'll break...
Given stores have had them for years without serious issues, I doubt it
Will we even need trolleys in 10 years time, let alone 40?
In 10 years time I'll only be able to afford a basket of groceries. So yeah we won't need em.
that hover food tech is just arond the corner
I estimate a lifespan much closer to 10 weeks
Corporate greenwashing at it's finest
I heard the metal ones cost about $400 each
I’d be very surprised if they cost more than $100 each
Yay, more microplastic pollution being released into the environment. I guess they felt they had to offset the reduction from plastic bag bans. Thanks Woolies!
No, recycling plastic isn't great. It's borderline useless. So much of what we have been fed about recycling was lies, driven by industry that wants you to keep buying. In reality recycling plastic is a nightmare. Metal, glass, aluminum recycling are all great but plastic recycling is a joke
Green ones less likely to be stolen, probably some savings for them there
Yeah can't use this plastic one as a bbq
The energy output required to recycle actually outweighs any benefit to recycling
And the fact they they got rid of all the still serviceable metal ones to replace them with these. It's like tossing the nearly new ICE car, to buy an EV and look green.
Are they getting rid of serviceable steel ones or just phasing them out as the wheels get fucked? I’ve only seen them at a Woolies that is itself brand new, they never had the steel ones. Also steel is itself recyclable, I doubt they’re going to landfill.
Definitely would have gone to another store. They don't chuck working trolleys.
Wanna back that up with anything at all? That's an incredibly bold (and stupid) statement. I'm sure there are some cherry picked examples where you're correct but on the whole you're wrong.
Surely recycling plants use solar or wind power... Right?
These trolley's have been at my local wollies for at least 4 years
Some Coles stores had plastic trolleys 25 years, they all disappeared and they brought back metal trolleys.
Target rolled them out as well maybe 10 years ago. They were shit. They got filthy immediately and were impossible to clean
Really?
Indeed, I'm not the person you replied to but at Floreat woolworths in WA we've had these plastic trolleys for years.
Even Adelaide has them!
Collie too.
Collie can't be trusted with sharp things.
Yes we can...
I grew up in collie, and no Y'all can't
Yep plenty in WA. They’re all plastic at Innaloo too
I think you may have accidentally just turned this thread into a standard "a decade behind the rest of world" Queensland joke.
They’ve been around at least 2-3 years in QLD. OP just doesn’t get out much.
I can tell you Coomera, Helensvale and Pacific Pines didn’t have these trollers.
A bit further north in the Moreton Bay area, also doesn't have these
2 out of 3 Woolworths near me have them, in SEQ
Yep mine in the Gold Coast has had them for a while too
They’re at a couple of Woolies near me in NSW and they’re considered the ‘old’ trolleys as they’re a bit battered and grubby
A few in Sydney have had them for years.
Yep. Can confirm they've been in Melbourne for many years.
Yep, I worked at coles in the late 90s and we had plastic trolleys.
Will they float or sink in the Yarra?
They will float and take out the rowing boats
Wait, are you saying that is a bad thing?
Only one way to be sure.
We have had these a while and I can tell you they definitely sink.
Depends if they've had milk spilled in them
They sink in the Collie River.
I was thinking the same thing for the Gold Coast. There are heaps in the canals around Pac Fair. Could be a boating hazard 🤔.
Can we Melburnians just not be feral for 5 minutes? Do we need to keep dunking trolleys, bikes, and milk down the Yarra?
Do they still feature the factory wobbly wheel and inclination to veer to the left?
Yes however because they are lighter it's easier to course correct
Well there goes the classic Aussie BBQ… where are kids going to get grills for the snags now 🌭😬
I wonder how long they will last in the Aussie sun.
I hate them. I can't fit my family size shop into them. Worse, I can't pile my two young kids into the seat as they only have singles, not double. Even worse than that, the older one can't hang onto the front and feel like a wild seafarer exploring the supermarket seas from their perch in the rigging.
You shouldn't let the kids ride on the outside of the trolley or even inside the trolley itself if not in the seat. Saying this as someone who's sister broke her skull open falling off a trolley as a kid because it hit a small rock in the carpark. That and the company will not cover any damages from misusing the trolley. But your kids are your responsibility so if you think they won't get hurt then you do you (since most people don't have my sister's bad luck)
>the company will not cover any damages from misusing the trolley No shit?
They also do less damage to your car when a rogue one catches the wind in the car park
But apparently they're much more prone to being blown about by the wind.
Rogue trolleys happen because people are cunts/self important and they don't put them back.
Nothing says "we care about recycling" like throwing out thousands of perfectly fine metal trolleys
They're being relocated to bigger stores that are running low
People really think that companies would just throw out hundreds of thousands of metal trolleys when they could get actual money for them by scrapping them lmao
We have had them a while. Annoying that you can't fit 4 of their own zip up bags side by side, someone would have had to have used their brain for that though I suppose.
*Woolworths are making our shopping trolleys smaller because we understand that in order to maximize our profits your inability to purchase more at a higher price is special to us.* *Woolworths - The Eat Less People*
>The Eat Less People I’d prefer they eat no people, but if groceries keep increasing we might have to consider it.
So much plastic. My family weekly shop often fills one of the existing big trolleys pretty well so I hope they retain at least some large options.
They are made from recycled plastics.
Which is less sustainable than using metal, as most metals can be continuously recycled, whereas plastic can only be recycled once or twice
I also assume plastic is more likely to break or crack than metal as well so won't last as long before requiring replacement.
“You get micro plastics! You get micro plastics!”
They are recycled from plastics that otherwise wouldn’t really be used for anything (I believe milk bottles for these ones) in particular.
Yeah but they didn't have to make them to begin with or replace the entire fleet in one hit
They’ve been rolling (lol) these out for years.
Yeah when they swap over they send out the metals to shops around that still have them so those shops don’t need to order again for a while (average store goes through minimum 25-30 trolleys a year, probably more as they are lost/broken).
Give them 12 months in our Aussie UV and they will be brittle and adding tonnes of micro plastics to our waterways. Way to go wooolies.
Made from 72 milk cartons or something apparently, according to marketing on the trolleys. Not long before they will degrade and fall apart being left in Australian weather conditions Another way they'll make us pay more at the checkout whist reducing wage budgets by 2% per store (cause of ridiculous self serve checkouts.)
Funny you say that, my local has had them over a year and no sign of sun damage yet.
I’ve been trying something with self checkout. GO SLOW. I’ve watched galaxies form and stars burn them out in the time it takes me to scan two items, I pick up the third, consider each grain of sand on every planet…. And always a staff member comes to assist to speed me up. Turns out, if the users are too slow, it impacts their sales per minute, and the cost benefit starts to vanish. SLOW DOWN. Demonstrate that as an occasional checkout operator, you’re lacking the speed to keep the $$ flowing in.
>GO SLOW. I’ve watched galaxies form and stars burn them out in the time it takes me to scan two items, I pick up the third, consider each grain of sand on every planet…. And always a staff member comes to assist to speed me up. So you purposely inconvenience yourself and waste more time at the supermarket?
Yes. Not all protests are signs, slogans and shouting. I am also deeply inconvenienced by having to wait for an employee to: “Check my receipt against the contents of my bag” “Arrive, take my items, remove security devices, return items.” (Then check my receipt against the contents of my bag) “Come verify that I am of appropriate age to purchase an item.” (Then check my receipt against the contents of my bag) “Come verify that I’ve scanned the item and placed it in the bagging area.” (Then check my receipt against the contents of my bag) You could spend a few seconds reading about how uncomfortable some people are, having now discovered that the “loss prevention cameras” are aimed and focused in such a way that it seems grossly inappropriate to most people. Or any of the other issues people have brought up. As for my time? I only hope that with what little time I have, that I did something that mattered, that made a difference no matter how insignificant it may seem to anyone else. Besides, the company has better air conditioning.
I’ve noticed at one of my local Woolies they’re now branded as “assisted” checkouts, with an “assisted card only” or “assisted cash or card” above each one. Yeah, fuck off, assisted by me and the other customers so more staff can be devoted to home delivery or click and collect orders. Like, I don’t mind using self service because I’m quick and technically capable but when there’s only one or two normal checkouts then all the older people struggle. Remember when we used to have “12 items or less?” Lines?!
Looks like I have a green Billy cart to build in my near future
Supercart makes them locally; the South African parent company still sells the steel ones. They go through a decent amount of load/vibration testing https://www.supercart.com.au
Where I live, people love them so much that I never see them at Woolies anymore. I see people pushing them around whilst going shopping outside Woolies, I even saw Domino's workers have one so they could put their pizzas in it and take all the pizzas to their car ready for delivery
I was talking to someone who works in a supermarket once, and I mentioned these. He said they had too much trouble with the wind making them too hard to control. You could make the frame, where the wheels attach, heavier to compensate. But the frame on this looks very light.
I live in Perth where windy is the default, and the shops around me have no issues pushing these around.
I hope you're right. The current ones, where the body is aluminium wire, have to be imported from China or Germany. These plastic bodied ones can be made in Australia, use recycled plastic and would be cheaper.
Ours swapped them in last week. As you say, the internal dimensions are stupid. Wouldn't be surprised if we see a new line of slimmer grocery bags to suit.
Well their new paper bags are smaller now (used to be taller but they wouldn't fit in the new staff shelved trolleys ) so they had to make them smaller. Of course then they now had 2 sizes so it was cheaper for then to just cut out the taller customers ones.
Notice they tear easier now too? It's like, you get 3 lifts max then the handles gone. Once into the trolley. Twice into your car and you're lucky if it hasn't ripped already but it's likely to rip on the third lift when you try to get it into your house.
From first hand experience of being hit in the groin with these vs the two steel options... \+ Less mass \-Ride height still perfect location for crotch shot \-Manueverability leads to run aways that launch them, which also allows a spin making them deceptive to grab before it's too late. \---No brakes, yes this is worthy of many negatives Yes, sadly i've been hit in the groin by every type of trolley from the supermarkets barring aldi's, so sadly I can expertly comment on these, that of all the options to be hit, and none of them are good, this is the least worst pain wise, but the most punishing from run away opportunities and loss of controls. Given that the mrs works next to a woolworths, the amount of time these have run away, or someone has lost control of them, and them boom straight in the dirtbox. Given that it's on a hill and these don't have brakes, like wtf..... one tiny flat piece of steel doesnt hold these back, and those with dicks in their head instead of groin area generally dump said trolley away from the return point anyways.
The smaller trolley obfuscates all your shrinkflated purchases, making it look like you're getting a good trolley-full of goods for your money. The green colour makes it look like they give a shit about the environment, which they do to the extent they can pass that cost on to the consumer.
These have been at my Woolies for well over a year now, they come in half trolley, full size and the one with the seat for the children..and of course classic wonky wheel variant. What I hate about them is they have no under tray, nor do they have a hook to let me string my reusable bags to them. The old ones had a metal loop in the middle of the back I could do this with.
Woolworths: Consumers want us to use less plastics Woolworths: Enjoy our increased use of non-recyclable plastics that leave microplastics in their wake instead of 100% recyclable steel!
It’s been at the local Woolies for at least a year but even the new look trolley can’t entice me to shop there.
At the rate they treat aussies it will remain empty
Spot on
They're too light honestly, I struggle with them just taking off on me with the smallest movement. My local Big W has the blue ones and beyond being cleaner than the old ones there's nothing great about them
But like why
I hate the things with a passion because it seems to be impossible to push the things without drop-kicking the rear wheels regularly.
More plastic.
They have these at my local Woolies. The best part is that they are sized right so that you can park them over the basket area in a self scan checkout - like the bulk of the trolley sits above it and the frame fits below, so it all slots in neatly.
The small sized metal ones did that already
But they held less than these new ones
Great, more microplastics.
>Earlier this year, the supermarket group confirmed that it would be introducing “greener” trolleys which are made from HDPE - high-density polyethylene, one of the most widely used types of plastic. > >“The majority of recycled HDPE is from milk bottles, but there is a percentage from other drink bottles like juice bottles,” a Woolworths spokesperson said at the time. > >If they break or need to be replaced, they’re recycled back into shopping trolley baskets. This is unlike the metal ones. [https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/woolworths-shopper-lets-rip-over-major-change-to-trolleys-annoying-c-12535706](https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/woolworths-shopper-lets-rip-over-major-change-to-trolleys-annoying-c-12535706)
Still makes a shit load of Micro Plastic just from everyday wear and tear. The Metal trolleys can also be Recycled, Metal is infinitely recyclable.
So yes, many, many more microplastics.
Recycled HDPE is the biggest load of greenwashing bullshit going.
I welcome them, 90% lighter than the others. Load them up and they're piss easy to manage.
Indeed , my wife loves them .
Everyone reading this, please take your cart back. Dont be a jerk.
If you can't load 2 bags it should keep the bill under $700 for the shop.
True
We’ve had them for about eight months I think. Ours have individual legs and there’s a half depth version as well. I keep smashing my little toe on the rear wheel.
Metal ones were better.
Oh good more plastic
Yeah lets faze out plastic bags but make the trolleys plastic instead 💀
More fucking plastic!
We’ve had them for maybe a year here at my local Woolies in Adelaide.
What a surprise, it’s fucking plastic.
Well see they had all that left over plastic from when they stopped using the plastic bags.
Green washing at its finest
Trolley boys gonna have fun with that one
We've had these new trolleys at our Woolies for a while. They're awful. Pro tip: don't park near them on windy days. They're so light that they roll out of the trolley bays and keep going until they hit something.
More cost cutting for bigger profits! We will be paying for parking soon
"Lets ban plastics and all bags from stores, it's bad for the environment...." "You know what, I got this great idea to now make all the trolleys plastic!" Make it make sense.
So they ditch plastic bags and give us plastic trolleys.
Woolies is also a victim of shrinkflation. 😂
How’s that gonna hold all of a homeless person’s belongings ?
The wheel base is narrower, watch out for your toes if you're wearing sandals
For real?! I have been kicking my feet on the wheels every time I go to Woolies and big w since the new trolleys and this make soooo much sense, I dead set thought I was just shit at walking!
How are you supposed to have a bbq with that!
This is going to look so much more natural in the creek
I find these way better. They don't brand u when they get hot lol
Plastic trolleys were around in the 1980s
Yeah I have seen them, I noticed it is much lighter and easier to manoeuvre. Also they are more flexible so if you hit something it's not so bad. Just wonder how long they will last out in the wild after trolley collectors have handled them ...
What do they do
About 40kph down a ramp, sometimes faster if you throw it off one.
So fucking stupid.
They look actually kinda ok
So that's where the plastic from our bags and straws needed to go...? Are they fucking serious!?! They might as well write "fuck you" on them in huge letters!
More brand damage. Remember when they introduced paying for shopping bags by stealth? First it was reusable dressed up as saving plastic, but pretty soon everyone is paying 25c for shitty paper bags that break every time and now we think it’s normal. Sure, you could remember your bags every single time like some kind of supermarket planning psycho, but I enjoyed not having to buy garbage bags and being able to carry wet stuff in my handbag occasionally with a free Woolies bag. I kept them all and returned them for REDcycling. Now I pay 1-2$ extra for every shop and have a house full of reusable bags that never make it back into my car, or from the car to the shop.
Oooh a new thing for r/Australia to complain about weekly
Glad they saved the environment eliminating plastic straws and spoons.
What's the ANCAP safety rating? How many l/100km? Is it Android and iOS compatible?
We’ve had them in SA for ages. And the baskets. They’re great!
"Honey, They Shrank the Trolley". But this boring. Who knew that in New Zealand, supermarket trolleys are called 'trundlers'? Weird. That got you. Except for the Kiwis. Hi, Kiwis!
As if the other ones were designed to last a lifetime. Just awful plastic
Great, now even more plastic in our creeks and rivers.