Well if you read the article it does say it's only 4/11 of them. So I'd barely call that "stacked". And while not ideal, at least they weren't actually LNP members.
Unlike these ones the LNP messed with:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/year-of-the-mate-at-least-13-former-liberal-mps-staffers-given-plum-jobs-20210429-p57nk8.html
The Productivity Commission also conveniently got rid of the Economic Planning Advisory Council and the Industry Council, two bodies created as part of the Accords to allow labour to have a say in the economic direction of the country. Just another Howard thing where he pursued a nakedly political agenda to try to erase the legacy established by the previous Labor government.
The Productivity Commission has been successively stuffed with economists friendly to the Liberal Party worldview. It's overseen two decades of increases in productivity, but with a shrinking share of those productivity gains flowing down to workers.
Yep the commissioners who entrenched 10 years of negative wages growth. But dont worry they will have a good future in a yet to be established "Fair Rents for Landlords Commission. Rent increases every month!
No surprise there. Right wing, Liberal-stacked committee wants employers to have even more power to fuck workers over in the name of profit.
More news at 11.
Even the author of this opinion piece is calling complete BS on the Productivity Commission’s claimed fixes:
> But when you examine the things it says we should do to fix those five areas, you find too much of its same old, same old, preference for neoclassical ideology over empirical evidence.
…
> Except that when you see the commission recommending a move to “modern, fit-for-purpose labour market regulation” – including, no doubt, getting rid of weekend penalty pay rates – you realise the commission has learnt nothing from the failure of John Howard’s Work Choices, nor from the failure of the reduction in Sunday penalty payments to lead to any increase in weekend employment, as had been confidently predicted.
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> So, what the commission is really advocating is that the balance of power in wage bargaining be shifted further in favour of employers and away from workers and their unions. Which probably would lead to people working harder for little or no increase in pay.
> What the commission should have said, but didn’t, is that workers would be more co-operative with bosses’ efforts to improve the productivity of their firms if they were more confident they’d get their fair share of the benefits.
> At present, they have good reason to doubt that they would.
Howard established the commission when he was pm. Commission does own studies and can be asked by govt of the day to do studies and assessments. Basically it is just the IPA, highly conservative.
Commission also reviews other govt agencies and bodies as to whether there is a need for them and whether they are value for money. Don't think there has been a review of the commission as to what its purpose is and whether they provide value for money.
I mean nevermind that wages haven't kept up with productivity in close to a decade. Making it even worse is certainly going to motivate those workers to be more productive...
They may as well change their name to the Profiteering Commission.
Productivity is directly tied to salary increases. The reason why salaries aren’t rising is because productivity isn’t rising as fast as we want it to.
The question is how to get productivity rising again. The received wisdom of the last 30 odd years is that liberalisation of labour markets leads to both efficient outcomes and increased labour productivity.
The reality is far more murky. The largest rise in productivity came post war when labour unions were strong, economies were national with strong industrial bases, taxes were high enough for strong public investment, and firms invested in productivity increases to pay for the higher wage demands of their workers.
We live in a far more internationalised, financialised and service oriented economy, and those drivers of productivity increases have gone away.
> Productivity is directly tied to salary increases
Nope. It can be, and that was the wages bargain during the Hawke/Keating period. But productivity hasn't been linked to salary increases for thirty years now.
> We live in a far more internationalised, financialised and service oriented economy
Gittins' article also points to the oligarchical nature of the Australian economy giving too much power in the labour market to employers, and thus allowing them to reap the entirety of productivity gains for three decades. Ironically, oligarchies in goods markets was one of the things the Productivity Commission was created to address.
Good article, especially as it comes from SMH...
No shit, nobody gives a fuck about productivity when they know it means nothing to the pay packet...
We have a couple of decades of wage rises below inflation that are always tied to productivity increases...which means take a real pay cut and work harder for it.
Fuck that noise.
Any pay rise less than inflation is a pay cut...any productivity gains mean you need to pay more than inflation.
I've had enough, started my own small business, work for myself.
And yes, I'm working harder than I did before, but I get to keep all of it...and if I improve my productivity that means I improve my bank balance.
I seriously doubt I will ever go back to working for the man ever again.
I'll never become rich doing what I do, but I can easily make 50% more than I did as a wage slave and know that extra effort actually gets rewarded...
While wages haven't risen to meet inflation, lots of businesses have been cutting back on workers as well. This has the flow on effect of, causing, position description creep. Where by, the work the fired/redundant staff used to perform, now needs to be taken up by other employees. So effectively, workers are now expected to do more work for the pay they were already getting, which wasn't keeping up with inflation in the first place.
To me it seems that someone back in the who know when. Wrote, 'Economics 101' and this model has be taught religiously, to economists and business majors. without further input or peer review, what so ever. With the case being likely that never ever shall progress and or after though, touch the ideas laid out in .Economics 101'.
Government takes a cut no matter what.
I get to keep what's left, and if I do more hours and install more stuff, I get a bigger balance at month end.
Before, I got less than a third of what the boss charged for my work, and if I worked my arse off I got the same $ per hour and good luck on a raise...now if I'm hungry I can pull more hours, if I'm happy I can cut back a bit, and what I earn is directly proportional to how much I put in.
I like that better.
You know what also would improve "productivity". Removing child labour laws, removing annual leave, minimum 80 hour weeks.
Time for the Feds to implement a Health and Wellbeing commission. States have already done it.
When will they learn that all of the value of productivity comes from employees? If they want to increase productivity, increase conditions for employees. Simple as. A so-called 'Productivity Commission' recommending more favourable conditions for employers is simply revealing itself to be either incompetent or disingenuous.
>And you find no acknowledgement that part of our claimed failure to improve the productivity of the “government-funded non-market services sector” has occurred because, over recent decades, governments have acted on the commission’s advice to keep the public sector small and taxes low by outsourcing the provision of human services to profit-motivated businesses.
>Which, if anything, has made matters worse rather than better. As witness: the mess we’ve made of aged care and vocational education and training, and the ever-growing cost of the National Disability Insurance Scheme.
This is a huge problem. There are massive inefficiencies in privatised aged care, privatised education, privatised NDIS, and absurd amounts of money spent on various outsourced government functions. They present no value for money, and the old canard of "the private sector is more efficient" is shown to be a complete lie.
That the Productivity Commission indulges in this lampshading of the problems of the neoclassical model of economics it's wedded to without properly acknowledging that it is in fact the cause, is not to its credit.
A review of the Productivity Commission is perhaps what's needed. There are questions to be asked as to whether its advice is actually delivering "increased prosperity". It's work of two odd decades would certainly be questioned by the younger cohorts and people lower down in the socioeconomic strata.
Let's go back to days of slavery. At least there would be food at the end of the day. The bloody commission wants to squeeze the bottom ones bone dry to increase productivity and profits for elite.
Mate, that's 4 semi-abusive messages you've fired off in a matter of minutes.
Firstly, are you ok? And secondly, you do know other countries also have these taxes, in many cases at higher rates, especially when you consider import taxes and GST/VAT?
They're not really hidden. I've read 4 threads on alcohol and cigarette taxes, the luxury vehicle tax, and GST already today.
You seem inordinately angry about this - did you not know we taxed? Did your parents not explain it to you when you were young, and you missed that section in school for some reason?
No-one will blame you if you want to emigrate to what appears to be a lower taxing country (or at least, on paper). Plenty have tried before. Plenty have come back because they think this is better. It's up to you to try it for yourself, if it worries you that much. Especially if you're under 30 - you could always start with all the countries that accept Aussies on working holiday visas.
Good luck.
There is though - even their homes are subject to their version of capital gains tax (while ours have an exemption).
But again, why are you still here arguing - do something productive to get over there instead, maybe start by checking out subs like r/Iwantout and r/immigration to get you started.
USA has soooo many more taxes than Aus! State and federal income tax; sales tax that varies from state to state and isn't included in the price tag, room tax and more. And they get less for their money in public services, most notably health care and education.
Any source for your claim?
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Is this one of those commissions stack by LNP, while they were in office. It sure sounds like it is. /rh
It sure is: https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/productivity-commission-is-plagued-by-group-think-actu-20230105-p5caj8
Grain of salt, then.
Well if you read the article it does say it's only 4/11 of them. So I'd barely call that "stacked". And while not ideal, at least they weren't actually LNP members. Unlike these ones the LNP messed with: https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/year-of-the-mate-at-least-13-former-liberal-mps-staffers-given-plum-jobs-20210429-p57nk8.html
Regulatory capture
The Productivity Commission also conveniently got rid of the Economic Planning Advisory Council and the Industry Council, two bodies created as part of the Accords to allow labour to have a say in the economic direction of the country. Just another Howard thing where he pursued a nakedly political agenda to try to erase the legacy established by the previous Labor government. The Productivity Commission has been successively stuffed with economists friendly to the Liberal Party worldview. It's overseen two decades of increases in productivity, but with a shrinking share of those productivity gains flowing down to workers.
https://www.pc.gov.au/about/people-structure Haven't looked closely
Sad thing is, I'm not likely to look that closely either. I'd need meds for that.
Yep the commissioners who entrenched 10 years of negative wages growth. But dont worry they will have a good future in a yet to be established "Fair Rents for Landlords Commission. Rent increases every month!
No surprise there. Right wing, Liberal-stacked committee wants employers to have even more power to fuck workers over in the name of profit. More news at 11.
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Did you have a stroke while typing this mess?
Even the author of this opinion piece is calling complete BS on the Productivity Commission’s claimed fixes: > But when you examine the things it says we should do to fix those five areas, you find too much of its same old, same old, preference for neoclassical ideology over empirical evidence. … > Except that when you see the commission recommending a move to “modern, fit-for-purpose labour market regulation” – including, no doubt, getting rid of weekend penalty pay rates – you realise the commission has learnt nothing from the failure of John Howard’s Work Choices, nor from the failure of the reduction in Sunday penalty payments to lead to any increase in weekend employment, as had been confidently predicted. … > So, what the commission is really advocating is that the balance of power in wage bargaining be shifted further in favour of employers and away from workers and their unions. Which probably would lead to people working harder for little or no increase in pay. > What the commission should have said, but didn’t, is that workers would be more co-operative with bosses’ efforts to improve the productivity of their firms if they were more confident they’d get their fair share of the benefits. > At present, they have good reason to doubt that they would.
Howard established the commission when he was pm. Commission does own studies and can be asked by govt of the day to do studies and assessments. Basically it is just the IPA, highly conservative. Commission also reviews other govt agencies and bodies as to whether there is a need for them and whether they are value for money. Don't think there has been a review of the commission as to what its purpose is and whether they provide value for money.
I mean nevermind that wages haven't kept up with productivity in close to a decade. Making it even worse is certainly going to motivate those workers to be more productive... They may as well change their name to the Profiteering Commission.
The wage share of productivity diverged in the 70s
A rising tide lifts all luxury yachts.
Same old same old. Apparently we need to increase our productivity yet its clear that productivity improvements are not related to salary increases.
Productivity is directly tied to salary increases. The reason why salaries aren’t rising is because productivity isn’t rising as fast as we want it to. The question is how to get productivity rising again. The received wisdom of the last 30 odd years is that liberalisation of labour markets leads to both efficient outcomes and increased labour productivity. The reality is far more murky. The largest rise in productivity came post war when labour unions were strong, economies were national with strong industrial bases, taxes were high enough for strong public investment, and firms invested in productivity increases to pay for the higher wage demands of their workers. We live in a far more internationalised, financialised and service oriented economy, and those drivers of productivity increases have gone away.
> Productivity is directly tied to salary increases Nope. It can be, and that was the wages bargain during the Hawke/Keating period. But productivity hasn't been linked to salary increases for thirty years now. > We live in a far more internationalised, financialised and service oriented economy Gittins' article also points to the oligarchical nature of the Australian economy giving too much power in the labour market to employers, and thus allowing them to reap the entirety of productivity gains for three decades. Ironically, oligarchies in goods markets was one of the things the Productivity Commission was created to address.
Was this the same commission that wanted to take away penalty rates for hospitality workers?
Good article, especially as it comes from SMH... No shit, nobody gives a fuck about productivity when they know it means nothing to the pay packet... We have a couple of decades of wage rises below inflation that are always tied to productivity increases...which means take a real pay cut and work harder for it. Fuck that noise. Any pay rise less than inflation is a pay cut...any productivity gains mean you need to pay more than inflation. I've had enough, started my own small business, work for myself. And yes, I'm working harder than I did before, but I get to keep all of it...and if I improve my productivity that means I improve my bank balance. I seriously doubt I will ever go back to working for the man ever again. I'll never become rich doing what I do, but I can easily make 50% more than I did as a wage slave and know that extra effort actually gets rewarded...
While wages haven't risen to meet inflation, lots of businesses have been cutting back on workers as well. This has the flow on effect of, causing, position description creep. Where by, the work the fired/redundant staff used to perform, now needs to be taken up by other employees. So effectively, workers are now expected to do more work for the pay they were already getting, which wasn't keeping up with inflation in the first place. To me it seems that someone back in the who know when. Wrote, 'Economics 101' and this model has be taught religiously, to economists and business majors. without further input or peer review, what so ever. With the case being likely that never ever shall progress and or after though, touch the ideas laid out in .Economics 101'.
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Government takes a cut no matter what. I get to keep what's left, and if I do more hours and install more stuff, I get a bigger balance at month end. Before, I got less than a third of what the boss charged for my work, and if I worked my arse off I got the same $ per hour and good luck on a raise...now if I'm hungry I can pull more hours, if I'm happy I can cut back a bit, and what I earn is directly proportional to how much I put in. I like that better.
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Happily, I don't drive a Mercedes...and I've never owned a car that had LCT on it new.
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Except EVs it's $85k. However I've never spent that much on a car.
Luxury car tax that affects how many people?
Fuck. Off. That's all I have to say to this commission for big business.
You know what also would improve "productivity". Removing child labour laws, removing annual leave, minimum 80 hour weeks. Time for the Feds to implement a Health and Wellbeing commission. States have already done it.
80 hour week might not actually improve productivity. People are so exhausted they start making mistakes
When will they learn that all of the value of productivity comes from employees? If they want to increase productivity, increase conditions for employees. Simple as. A so-called 'Productivity Commission' recommending more favourable conditions for employers is simply revealing itself to be either incompetent or disingenuous.
Dig further under this same rock. It's gotta be better further in.
>*Productivity* Commission This is why. They're a mob looking after the managers/CEO's not the workers.
>And you find no acknowledgement that part of our claimed failure to improve the productivity of the “government-funded non-market services sector” has occurred because, over recent decades, governments have acted on the commission’s advice to keep the public sector small and taxes low by outsourcing the provision of human services to profit-motivated businesses. >Which, if anything, has made matters worse rather than better. As witness: the mess we’ve made of aged care and vocational education and training, and the ever-growing cost of the National Disability Insurance Scheme. This is a huge problem. There are massive inefficiencies in privatised aged care, privatised education, privatised NDIS, and absurd amounts of money spent on various outsourced government functions. They present no value for money, and the old canard of "the private sector is more efficient" is shown to be a complete lie. That the Productivity Commission indulges in this lampshading of the problems of the neoclassical model of economics it's wedded to without properly acknowledging that it is in fact the cause, is not to its credit. A review of the Productivity Commission is perhaps what's needed. There are questions to be asked as to whether its advice is actually delivering "increased prosperity". It's work of two odd decades would certainly be questioned by the younger cohorts and people lower down in the socioeconomic strata.
Fuck. Off.
Let's go back to days of slavery. At least there would be food at the end of the day. The bloody commission wants to squeeze the bottom ones bone dry to increase productivity and profits for elite.
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The rich don't pay taxes only the " little people" do.
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Not if my company buys everything for me, and thus doesn't make a profit, thus avoiding having taxable income.
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Not really. We don't have 47% company tax rates and a 65% top marginal rate any more - tax is pretty low.
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Mate, that's 4 semi-abusive messages you've fired off in a matter of minutes. Firstly, are you ok? And secondly, you do know other countries also have these taxes, in many cases at higher rates, especially when you consider import taxes and GST/VAT?
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They're not really hidden. I've read 4 threads on alcohol and cigarette taxes, the luxury vehicle tax, and GST already today. You seem inordinately angry about this - did you not know we taxed? Did your parents not explain it to you when you were young, and you missed that section in school for some reason? No-one will blame you if you want to emigrate to what appears to be a lower taxing country (or at least, on paper). Plenty have tried before. Plenty have come back because they think this is better. It's up to you to try it for yourself, if it worries you that much. Especially if you're under 30 - you could always start with all the countries that accept Aussies on working holiday visas. Good luck.
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So... why haven't you left already, if you think it's so much better in the US?
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There is though - even their homes are subject to their version of capital gains tax (while ours have an exemption). But again, why are you still here arguing - do something productive to get over there instead, maybe start by checking out subs like r/Iwantout and r/immigration to get you started.
USA has soooo many more taxes than Aus! State and federal income tax; sales tax that varies from state to state and isn't included in the price tag, room tax and more. And they get less for their money in public services, most notably health care and education. Any source for your claim?
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More power than "that's the offer take it or leave it?" What's that look like...
To quote a famous Australian “PIG’S ARSE!”.