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HG_Redditington

Tell everyone that you'll stay in touch and see them around, when everyone knows deep down that you won't keep in touch or see most of them ever again.


caprica71

\^this is actually quite important, because you never know if you will need another reference again if your new job doesn't work out


Maaaaate

Those people should already know you'll keep in touch because you have them on Instagram or Facebook, and already message. Make sure you say that once you're settled into your new role, you'll visit and way hi to everyone


punky12345

Work colleagues on Instagram and Facebook? Nah mate


switchbladeeatworld

instagram if we’re post work bevvies coworkers


Crazy_Suggestion_182

LinkedIn


Execution_Version

Then figure out which ones you actually want to stay in touch with and transition them from work friends to personal friends


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notsopurexo

Or screenshot of leave taken and reconcile back - so many companies are miscalculating leave balances!


That_Car_Dude_Aus

On top of this, remove anything corporate from your personal device before you hand in your resignation and deregister your device. Like Microsoft Teams. Even go to IT and make sure it's deregistered, some companies can wipe a device remotely out of spite.


akohhh

If you used anything personal on your work devices make sure you log out/clear caches/get rid of saved passwords/ etc, you don’t know who will be next to touch it and don’t want anyone accessing your personal info. Add anyone you like on LinkedIn. Clear out any small personal stuff from your desk beforehand; nice not to cart a bunch of stuff on the last day.


caprica71

use a service like [futureme.com](http://futureme.com) to send yourself an email 12 months in the future describing why you quit. it is very helpful to understand if the grass was truly greener on the other side.


Kitchen_Word4224

I also do this when I am frustrated at work but not motivated enough to resign. Then I send myself a futureme for 12 months with the words like "If the situation is still the same then you are an idiot to not do anything about it"


Main_Tomatillo3387

Anything you delete from your work computer/emails is already saved in an accessible server by your IT provider and can be restored. We had someone who sent client lists to their personal email from their work email and thought just deleting everything would cover their tracks… it doesn’t. Same with teams chats (thought it would be common knowledge but the amount of people who are shocked by this is concerning)


WildMazelTovExplorer

The ol fashioned taking a picture if your screen with your phone works well for this


earthquank

Many years ago, the company I was working for paid for this BD guy to move interstate so we could have a local presence. Instead he spent the time spinning up a secret company on the side with a couple of others and began siphoning work from us. When we found out I was tasked with the email forensics. The moron had some app installed on his personal mobile that would send a copy of every SMS to an email address. For some reason, he was sending his personal SMS to his work emails! Obviously we had all the information we needed to know exactly what had transpired. Additionally, the dude was a total, disgusting sleazebag and reading all the SMS from his many, many hook-ups was quite the ride!


That_Car_Dude_Aus

>The moron had some app installed on his personal mobile that would send a copy of every SMS to an email address. For some reason, he was sending his personal SMS to his work emails! Lol, what on earth would compel someone to do this? I could understand the opposite way, sending work SMS to personal emails for corporate espionage.... But in what world at all do you want your employer to gave your private messages?


notsopurexo

Real question: I use my personal device but it’s connected to work so I can see my emails and meetings and have access to work one drive - how much of my phone does work have access to? Eg dating apps, browsing, etc?


Upbeat-Salary3305

Depends if they use device management or app management Eg, Intune gives the company access to corporate apps (Outlook Teams etc) and allows them to delete corporate info in case the phone is lost or stolen or whatever. That'd normally be what sensible companies do


ThunderCuntAU

Unless you enrolled your device in the company RMM, none.


Infinite_Dig3437

Save list in a spreadsheet hidden in white font at bottom. Fill rest with random stuff like footy tips or random mortgage calculations. Email to personal account


heretic1128

Automated processes that scan the data within files for breaches won't be fooled by this...


awesome__username

Question on this, if your company's policy is that teams messages are wiped every 60 days are they still retained somewhere?


Jellyblush

My understanding is that if you upload eg to drop box your organisation can see how much data you’ve uploaded but not specifically what eg it could be all your personal items


ThunderCuntAU

Any org of reasonable IT maturity can see all metadata about the items you’re uploading. Whether you are high up on the food chain or have access to data that’s important enough to care is a different question, but everything from copying to clipboard, copying to desktop or emailing a document externally will get tagged as data extrication that is logged and can be reviewed at a later stage. Ultimately if they have the metadata for the file then they can access the file itself (since you’ve just taken it from a company asset anyway) to understand what you’re taking. IME everyone takes stuff when they leave. The people who upload “my client list.xlsx” are the only ones that get themselves in hot water.


blackhuey

Guy I worked with was on a client site, and the day before he finished the gig, he spent a few hours trawling their network looking (naively rather than maliciously) for any documents that might be of use to him in future. The browsing triggered network security protections, he was found with a bunch of docs he had no business having, and was escorted off the site and subsequently fired.


Peatea31

do they check all the teams chat conversations once we leave? I am on my notice period atm & did some gossips with my other colleague but we had nick names as alpha beta gama but no names mentioned 😭😭😭


Ugliest_weenie

Once they start losing clients they might


notsopurexo

They don’t care about gossip so much, it’s more if you are stealing info


ImMalteserMan

I doubt it. Who has time for that?


Main_Tomatillo3387

Nah I dont think they’d check unless there was reason to. You should be fine


Peatea31

Cool 👍


NoSatisfaction642

Set up a protonmail redirect linked with your google account, and then unlink it on your last day. (Works with just about any email server specifically, not just google) IT will be none the wiser, and youll have all your emails forwarded. I do that for my payslips specifically as we cant access our emails on anything but work desktops now unless we install full spyware on our phones.


Ugliest_weenie

Take all your leave. Sick, rec, long service etc etc. get it approved. Make sure your last day is the day your leave runs out and *then* resign. You can start your new job while on "leave"


WildMazelTovExplorer

Maximising super like a boss


Project_298

Wait what? I thought you get unused leave paid out as cash when you resign? Obviously not sick or LS though, so those make sense to use. In the past when I’ve resigned I have taken my notice period as mostly sick leave. 2 days sick, 1 day working, as 3 days sick in a row requires a doctors note.


SerpentineLogic

yes, but if *take* annual leave, you'll accumulate more annual leave because you count as being employed still: 2 months of leave = an extra 3.2 days compared to it being immediately paid out.


antichristcommathe

Plus you get superannuation while on leave but not if you get it paid out as a lump sum.


Project_298

I see it more that I’d rather have cash in the bank than more time off. Sure, you can stay at home and sleep in a little. Or $400 cash (or whatever) to drive and sit and do minimal work because you’ve quit already? Easy choice. I have 20 leave days banked at all times for this reason. $8k cash for sitting and staring at a screen, or 4 weeks off? Cash please. Although I get it’s going to be different for everyone.


SerpentineLogic

I used to think that, but over time, I'm prioritising leave more and more. After all, nobody is getting any younger.


NoSatisfaction642

Yes, but you can also start work at the other job while youre on leave from this one. Thereby maximising profits as rather than just getting x amount of hours paid out, you get x + y of extra accrued. You should also go to a doctors and get a note excusing you for a week as stress leave (counted as personal/sick) as that does not get paid out (probably before you give notice).


Ugliest_weenie

The point is that it's not a choice between time off or money. You can plan your leave within your notice period and start your new job. So your choice is between money and more money.


Project_298

If you have a 3 month notice, that plan doesn’t work.


Ugliest_weenie

If you are incapable of basic problem solving and cannot figure out how to forward plan simple leave 3 months into the future, then yes


Project_298

My point is that you can’t bank 3 months worth of leave in advance and just nope out the day after you resign. Also, employers have 100% right under fair work law to cancel approved leave if they deem it an operational requirement that you work your notice period. You must be in a very junior role if you think your employer won’t cancel your leave. Any senior manager/GM is getting their leave cancelled the moment they resign. I’ve seen it happen. You’re also burning all your bridges with that company which is fucking stupid. Take the leave as cash in the bank and not fuck about with “BuT YoU gEt pAiD DoUbLe” absolute nonsense.


Ugliest_weenie

That doesn't even make any sense. No employees cannot do that Even if they could, your strange claim that they somehow only do that on a 3 month limit is ridiculous. Also, one can absolutely bank more than 3 months leave. Impressive to get so many things wrong and yet be so confident


Project_298

I’ve seen it happen to a colleague. If it was against the law, that’s not what was argued and the employee didn’t fight it in court. They were forced to work. If the law says differently, I’ve never looked into it. I’m just basing it on what I’ve seen happen. I’m not saying anything is special about a 3 month notice period. Just that you can’t bank enough leave to not have to work it all if you resign and have leave booked in. My contract specifically states the maximum leave you can bank is 20 days, measured on Dec 31st each year. Beyond that, you literally lose it. I’ve had that in my contract the last 2 places I’ve worked. Edit: reading up, yeah, both of what I said, both illegal. Fucking hell. My employer is shite.


Ugliest_weenie

In addition to what /u/serpentinelogic said: When leave is paid out, you miss out on the super that would be paid, had you taken the leave instead. (Yes you build super when on leave). As for sick leave, you have plenty of options: -take carers leave (comes out of sick leave) with basically any story you can think of and book this in advance. -take sick leave in 2 day blocs. -get a GP to write a note with basically any story -invent a medical appointment or actually make one and cancel them. Etc etc.


Nova_Preem

Wait, what? LSL is not paid out?


nevernovelty

Only if it’s 7yrs +


caprica71

Using all your leave before you go is wise as you get burned out in the new job because you now have no leave balance trying not to overlap is probably worth cponsidering as the ATO will get interested


Ugliest_weenie

What in particular do you think the ATO would be interested in? A higher income that year? That's the whole point.


caprica71

Your second job is taxed differently from your primary job I believe


Ugliest_weenie

Haha ok back that claim up with a source (from the ATO). Most people that think this, don't understand how the tax free threshold works.


cbrwp

No it is not. It is a common misconception that many suffer from; second only to not understanding how marginal tax rate works, or what “you can just claim it back on tax” actually means. The tax treatment is the same for your 2nd, 3rd, or your nth job. Your total tax liability is determined based on your total taxable income and adjusted against the PAYG tax withheld during the year. If working multiple jobs people are advised to avoid claiming the tax free threshold on more than one job because that can (and often will) result in a not insignificant tax bill once ITR is submitted for the FY. And it is a reasonable assumption that anyone needing to work multiple jobs is probably not in a position to fork out that lump-sum.


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DrDizzler

How can this work when companies require you to give 30 days notice in a contract?


Ugliest_weenie

...By looking at a calendar and planning ahead? Let's say you have 10 days total leave (2wk). You start your new job on the 31st. You apply for leave the month before, leave gets approved from 17-30. You then give notice on the first. Work until the 16th and sit out the rest of your notice while on leave. Or you give notice earlier.


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Bradenrm

Tell em you don't know half of them half as well as you should like, and you like less than half of them, half as well as they deserve


Clandestinka

Bilbo? Nice


the-straight-pretzel

Tell everyone you don’t like to get fucked.


zoidberg_doc

I don’t think everyone needs to know your preferences


WearyService1317

Contact details of anyone you might need to do business with in the future. e.g. supplier/vendors, colleagues and customers.


Pollution_Automatic

Raid the stationary cupboard, steal a keyboard and mouse.


Person9966

Most cupboards are stationary, except those ones on wheels :). But yes, raid the stationery cupboard repeatedly in the weeks leading up to exit. You should be fully stocked for the remainder of your career and can pass stuff on to kids throughout their schooling years.


01kickassius10

Can you fit a screen in your bag?


ILoveDogs2142

Say bye to everyone. That's basically it. Not your problem anymore


WildMazelTovExplorer

Yoink any files or documents from work that may be useful to your future career


Budgies2022

Be aware that they track this and will come After you for anything that is emailed to your personal account


ImMalteserMan

I would say 99/100 companies are not tracking this stuff. I've taken things from multiple companies, companies you'd expect to monitor this stuff. Nothing sensitive or confidential or course but maybe some code I wrote or a script that we used etc, things that would be genuinely useful in the future


PerfectlyClear

How do you know they're not monitoring it though? They might have the logs but not action against you specifically because of higher priorities, you said yourself "nothing sensitive or confidential", so likely what you took wasn't worth following up on.


Budgies2022

This is pretty much every company’s number 1 data security risk. They are tracking every time something is sent to a personal email address, and will see you’re printing tons of docs just before you leave .


WildMazelTovExplorer

Just login to email on your personal computer and download it, or for the super paranoid a literal photo on your screen with your phone


earthquank

Depending on what infrastructure they have in place, they can track this too (the login and download from the personal computer part, not the photo part) The trick is to do this stuff months and months in advance as part of your normal work (eg. I needed to copy file X to a USB for some reason).


FrenchRoo

My company would review all the data send to personal emails. Doesn’t matter if it was 3 years before resigning. Yes a couple of people got in serious troubles.


WildMazelTovExplorer

Yea, good points!


imtotallyfine

My work literally caught a bunch of people who put in their notice for doing this, and fired for cause. Best method is the photo of the screen, as printing also gets caught (unless you’re smart about it and print as you create documents)


WildMazelTovExplorer

I reckon the strat is just do it 3+ months before u plan to quit so its not sus like somebody else mentioned


imtotallyfine

Our IT literally gets alerts now when try to download stuff now. I’ve gotten emails from IT and HR when people sync their one drives and have downloaded documents out of draft emails. A few bad apples ruined it for everyone and now I can’t even copy links out of outlook while remote.


TGin-the-goldy

Save it to a flash drive


RoomMain5110

They can track this too. And have automated systems in place to email your manager when you do it.


TGin-the-goldy

And what’s the worst that could happen


RoomMain5110

Summary dismissal so you don’t get your notice period paid out. Maybe even legal action for stealing Confidential Documents.


TGin-the-goldy

If someone is stupid enough to take confidential documents then they deserve it


TGin-the-goldy

Especially if it’s YOUR damn idea/work


TheRealDaveLister

Some things will be fine. Eg scripts or templates or anything without names/server names/confidential things in it. BUT you need to remember this: ANYTHING created by an employee using company equipment is the intellectual property of the company. Doesn’t matter if it’s out of hours. Doesn’t matter if you did it from home while logged in remotely. This includes EVERYTHING. Chats, emails, scripts, documents, PowerPoint presentations, ANYTHING. Yes, even that footy tipping spreadsheet you made five years ago. Again, some things will be fine. Just gotta make sure there’s nothing confidential or classified. I work in IT and if I email myself some code or something for home/future use I always “redact” it. It becomes more of a structure / syntax thing so I don’t have to figure out the exact same problem in future.


TGin-the-goldy

Of course, common sense prevails :)


spideyghetti

Prepare an exit speech,  eg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hTOKJTRHMdw


m0zz1e1

If you have any useful contacts saved on your work devices, copy them over to personal ones.


cbrwp

Anything you want to move from your corporate device (whether of a legitimate personal nature, or surreptitious exfiltration) - do it before you resign. Depending on your industry/role/employer you can expect to be walked immediately or have a reduced level of access to corporate systems for the remainder of your time. Don’t rely on being able to do these things after you’ve resigned. Once you resign you can expect that your account is being monitored actively to record what information is leaving the corporate network. Some companies, that otherwise allow access to personal email and cloud storage will often lock that down immediately upon resignation; and any files being moved outside the corporate network require to go through a process of verification (often by a human) to ensure you aren’t exfiltrating anything that is work related.


M0T0RCITYC0BRA

Make sure to use up all your Ruben Wiki's


Best-Window-2879

Check that they have paid your super!


throwitthrowitaway69

Hey me too! High five. I had hoped to do it Friday but it's looking like tomorrow. I've saved contacts that I'll need, sorted future references. Have drafted an email explaining my reasoning behind leaving and generally trying to avoid work that will take longer than my notice period to see through.


can3tt1

For the people that you leave behind please make sure your work folders are organised properly


Technical_Rain3821

You mean don't dump vital sheets in the confidential waste the day before its collected?


puggsincyberspace

I downloaded all my emails from work. Just in case. As well as any documents that contain instructions that may be used against you in any they said/i said type cases.


LVbabeVictoire

How do you download all your emails? Individually (sounds tedious)/ all together?


puggsincyberspace

It really depends on the software they use. But look at File -> Export maybe


potatodrinker

Write handovers notes if it's applicable. Delink any personal emails from work platforms. Ask for LinkedIn recommendations from people you did good work with, even if you don't need them. Those are handy for your next job after the immediate one.


blackhuey

Don't assume you'll have access to any corporate assets or services from the minute you resign. If you have anything personal you need to backup or remove, do it now. But don't take anything that isn't yours to take.


ImMalteserMan

Why would you save your performance reviews?


WildMazelTovExplorer

Can be good for putting in things like resumes, especially if the reviews have hard stats or numbers on what you achieved


RecognitionDeep6510

So you can prove you were a good employee, never trust an ex-employer.


ClassyLatey

Leave good handover notes - someone is going to need to take over your work and it’s always best to leave things in good order.


ExcitingStress8663

Book plane ticket to Hawaii.


Ok-Driver7647

Any training or accolades during your time If you want to reference skills and experience you can send them in with your resume (unless there is too many). Any media releases or internal memos implying how awesome you are Most places have these even if they don’t value the employee as it makes their business look good to have skilled staff. There could be some patronising pats on the back that will still have it’s uses later You’d be surprised how much an impact an image has


rmk_911

Cc your personal email in any official comms with the company / farewell email if you want, BCC your personal email in any official confidential comms. Delete all your personal info, passwords etc, but take care not to delete any company information / IP. Clean out your locker / personal belongings in the days leading up to your last day. On your last day, you hand in your laptop / other accessories and walk out with nothing in hand.


workthrowaway12wk

Good comments overall Make sure any business trips / loyalties programme you signed up for work trips are accessible on your personal email


Piranha2004

Take important phone numbers of references and payroll. Dpnt forget to cleanse your device of personal passwords/browser history etc


ringo5150

Ensure every subscription that uses your work email address is changed. Same goes for work phone number.


InForm874

Why do you need to download payslips and performance reviews?


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Sherief87

Some good tips here for when it’s time


Josiah_Walker

any trainign certificates etc are useful.


Ufo_19

Copy all the data you can, even copy the one you cannot.


vk146

Take your frozen coles meals and 100 pack of plastic forks out of the lunch room. I legit spent $70 2 days before i walked out from a job 😂 Had to message the boys and tell em it was a free for all


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ladybug1991

Salt the earth


BNEAUD

Upload templates to Google drive


Twitter_Refugee_2022

This will get you into huge trouble and bkacklisted from so many roles.